Bears at Giants Game Preview

In front of what will feel like Soldier Field Sunday night, the Bears attempt to shock the football world and open 4-0.

YOUR BIG GAME 2010 CHICAGO BEARS
over
New York Giants
Why do I like the Chicago Bears this week?
  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • The Giants linebackers and defensive backs don't match up well against the Bears' offensive weapons, specifically Matt Forte and Greg Olsen.  If the Giants commit to blitzing linebackers on third-and-long, Cutler will torch them for big yardage.
  • The Giants defensive line is a standard 4-3, with Justin Tuck stationary on the left side. Brandon Manumaleuna has a terrific game, specifically early, holding Clay Matthews down.  I think he'll help Kevin Shaffer do the same to Tuck.  If the Bears don't get the Giants ends blocked, they'll have a hard time moving the ball at all.
  • Just like the Packers, the Giants will be able to move the ball through the air.  Unlike the Packers, the Giants and Eli Manning struggle mightily getting seven inside the red zone. The Bears allowed two touchdowns to the Packers and both were tremendous plays by Aaron Rodgers.  "Senator, you're no Aaron Rodgers".
  • The Giants do have three good wide receivers - Nicks, Smith, Manningham - and the Bears defensive backs need to tackle.  A slip on the turf, something we oddly do often, and the Giants have six.
  • The special teams advantage for the Bears starts with the kickers but goes far beyond them.  I'd be shocked if it doesn't tip the scales ten points in our direction.  Coughlin is ordering his struggling, rookie punter aim for the stands.  (Amazing how the Hester threat is altering game plans again after one game.)  But can the Giants cover Manning and Knox any better?  I don't think so.  And the return of their special teams captain Chase Blackburn doesn't exactly scare me.
  • Giants fill-in center Adam Koets.  Meet Lance Briggs.  He's good.
  • David Diehl vs. Julius Peppers or Kareem McKenzie vs. Julius Peppers, it doesn't matter. The mismatch is substantial and Peppers could be ready to take over another game in primetime.  The more the Giants are forced to keep Kevin Boss on the line to block, the less they'll be able to throw to him in the seam - a play that's killed the Bears for years.
  • Something is becoming apparent about this Bears team.  Nobody's running the ball against them.  And if you can't run the ball against a team, it makes putting them away very difficult.  The Bears almost dare teams to keep throwing and then they're second-to-none at forcing turnovers.  I think they get a couple key ones Sunday night.

Chicago Bears 31, New York Giants 10

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  • here!

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    FIRST!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Almost....but juuuuuust not quite!

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Who said it FIRST? haha here? wtf almost but not quite there. haha

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    I honestly expect us to go in there and dominate the Giants on all phases. I dont see any reason to why they should beat us or can beat us.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Yeah I watched the replay of the GB game last night and against one of the most consistant offenses in the league the Bears held their own. Couple that with the fact that in the Colts v Giants game the Giants were completely unable to stop the pass I see a lopsided victory for the Bears this week.
    Now after complaining about not getting any run we're gonna have to make room for all the bandwagoners in the coming weeks.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    +1 man i sure hope not. I rather deal with Haters instead of wannabe Bear fans.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    31-10? Damn Blogfather, did you drink Tang for breakfast?

    Let's not get balloon heads. 24-21.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Wow!!!!! 31-10. Pretty bold Jeffy. Don't get me wrong, that would be awesome and I can see if happening if everything comes together in all phases but that's pretty froggy. We do seem to be able to win the big games against NY and I'll be happy with a win no matter how we get it. I would love to see our D wreak a little havoc in the backfield this week and I'm pretty sure this game is going to be Peppers break out week. I'm calling 3 sacks and 3 picks by our D.

    Oooohrah, Bear Down.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Watched both replays and I do think the Bears will be scoring big on the Giants D. Giants just cant cover the pass!

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    LOL, love the "Senator, you're no Aaron Rodgers." But could someone explain to me why the Giants are favored by four points. That, I do not get...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Home field is a standard -3.

    -4? Beats me.

    Plus, as Blogfather has previously pointed out, Giants fans are notorious "no-shows" on Sunday nights allowing more tickets to be appropriated by ACTUAL (i.e., Bears) football fans.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    So the odds-makers are saying that all things considered, the Giants are a "slightly" better team than the Bears...

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    Basically.

    Though did they open at -3 before moving to -4? I didn't catch the opening lines, but if so, that'd suggest to me it may just be bettors taking the Bears moving the line.

  • In reply to tobijohn:

    And that is why you are not an oddsmaker. The line under 4-7 points says nothing about likelihood of victory for a given team. They pick odds that will give the maximum amount of action at about a 50/50 split so they maximize their income. It has nothing to do with their faith in who will actually win. It's their faith that Giants fans are fucking stupid.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Haha, well there is some truth to that.

    But you will notice that the moneyline (the odds set for each team to win straight up) is closely coordinated with the spread. So they ARE saying something about (what they think) is the likelihood of victory for each team.

    That said, more money is placed on spread bets, so that is the priority for a book -- but they can't go off the reservation there, or they'll get burned BIG time on the moneyline.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    dam JEFF 5-10grand. shit man i would love to come up on bettng games. I wish i put a bet down for te Dallas Bears game.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    There's money to be in the NFL too, but it's difficult.

    There is so much more action on NFL games that books watch those lines very, very closely. The NFL lines get affected by squares too, but the opportunities are rarer compared with college football.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Lots of interesting bets this week. The first three weeks didn't have too many good matchups, but this week makes me wish I had an account. I do believe the Bills are a banana-skin bet this week though. Do not touch.

    Hot off the press. Get your dollars on the Bears. Probably their best defender - Kiwi is out. Osi has a swelled knee too.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81afc4b1/article/giants-kiwanuka-wont-play-vs-bears-status-uncertain?module=HP_headlines

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Anyone have an opinion on Michael Lewis in relation to the Bears signing him?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81afca84/article/niners-safety-lewis-misses-practice-for-personal-reasons?module=HP_headlines

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The Giants will come to play and they do have talented players. After a lot of introspective thought, meditation, statistical analysis and extensive film review I have come up with the following conclusion:

    MANNING...DEAD!
    BRADSHAW...DEAD!
    NICKS...DEAD!
    BOSS...DEAD!
    GIANTS...DEAD!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That's a little dramatic johnny. How about just severely wounded?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Neidermayer?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    fucking dead

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    SHOW ME THE MOTHERFUCKIN' MONEY!!!!

    Giants -4 against the 3-0 hotshot #Bears? are you serious? man time to get paid.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    This week is good for gambling, if only I could. Lots of tasty looking matchups.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "Killed by his own troops in Viet Nam."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    classic.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Has Jeff called a game wrong yet?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I think we've all called victories so far ... were there any dissenters ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    ".. every time just like the last ... on her ship tied to the mast ... two distant lands takes both my hands ... never a frown with golden brown ...."

    Somebody call 911! I think he's dead !

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    looks like Mr. Harrison has his f-book profile back up. just sent him a message, but we'll see if i can get that inside link back.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I hit hester up all the time on FBook.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Early x-mas present:

    Hester on Kickoff Returns just to get them to shank it and Melton on the goal line. Even Dan Jiggetts from CSN addressed that issue.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    + both

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    How not to get your playing time back DA

    http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/09/30/bears-devin-aromashodu-questions-his-benching-in-bid-to-achieve/

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Lovie is over-compensating for the previous years where no one was held accountable. Shabba was your leading receiver in game one and then gets benched? Will Dez get benched for dropping a TD on Monday night? Will Marcus Harrison get benched because he failed to collapse the pocket on Monday? He wasn't half as effective as Tommie was ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I disagree entirely with this. Mark Bradley was always productive on the field with the Bears and Lovie held him severely accountable.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    What about everybody in between? Although I guess Tank and Ced got 86d - but that wasn't really performance related. He never benched Cutler last year. Tommie comes to mind. Olsen - although Olsen kept popping up with TDs before disappearing again.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, I respect the opinion, and admire the passion you have for the guys you like. My bet though is this is not Lovie behind this, but Martz.

    Also I'd be surprised if he didn't get back on the field again soon. But if Martz knew he was going to be running lots of Ace (2WR, 1RB, 2TE) sets, or WR-short sets like the Jumbo (2RB, 3TE) they ran on 4th-and-goal, vs the Packers, I could see him demanding his extra possession receiver be Bennett.

    Look, Martz isn't an idiot. He's going to pick the guys that work best for the game plan he has any given week. If you think Smith is browbeating Martz into sitting a receiver that Martz thinks is his best option, then you must really think they're both fools. You don't think Jay would say something too?

    Don't worry man, I think we'll be seeing more of DA soon... BTW, check out Urlacher's comments on Smith's changeups, that he's not as capricious as you think -- http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/09/urlacher_lovie_hasnt_changed.html

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    At least Tommie is taking the high road to the media, ish.

    http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/09/tommie_harris_addresses_his_deactivation_does_not_want_to_be_traded.html

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    i want DA to be hungry and go out with a vengeance. At least he admitted that it is a motivating factor for him. Tommie just sat there and said it was just a coaching move. I respect DA more for telling the truth but maybe Tommie isn't motivated by it and was telling the truth.

    DA will play.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Play DA!

    Try him in the red zone. Try something.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    It's somewhat amusing to see Tommie say he doesn't mind not playing as long as we win. That's BS unless he really doesn't give a shit.

    And surely we're a better team with Shabba in there. Take a trip down memory lane and check out his highlights and tell me who can do that on our team. We have a few differently talented receivers, but do we have one that presents that combination of size and speed other than Shabba? Sincerely, he was our leading WR in game one and almost legendary before that given his limited looks, has an off day and now he's not good enough to play football? Transformers. There's more than meets the eye ...

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I'm kind of amazed at how much a shell of his former self Tommie has become.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    That's the truth, man...

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I don't remember Tommie as ever being an angry or fired up guy. He doesn't even seem to get very emotional when citing his beloved Psalms or what have you. To me, his personality has stayed the same since he's been here.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80810082/

    He was a little fired up there.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I forgot bout that one for a minute Posse. I was talking moe about his mild personality.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    To those that say that Tommie played well towards the end of last year so we shouldn't give up on him, help me out here please. Last year he was still rehabbing an injury right? And wasn't he getting most of the double teams and still finding a way to perform towards the end of the season?

    So this year he doesn't have to rehab an injury and comes in the healthiest he has been in a long time, never missed even one practice if I remember correctly. And he is no longer facing double teams. How can you be healthier and your job get easier and your performance go down? What is the problem?

    Was he that talented that he didn't have to try hard to be successful those Pro Bowl years? With his injuries is he more in line with other talented DE's and actually has to work really hard to be at that elite level and just doesn't want to?

    If heart or effort are the problem, I doubt there is much hope. No heart = No chance. If being embarassed by being inactive doesn't sting his pride enough to get it together than I guess there isn't much else to do.

    Paging Mr. Kreutz.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Haha, that joke will never get old will it? I swear Olin ought to open up his own gun shop/shooting range when he retires. He can run annual NFL motivational workshops there on side (dental plan not included).

    As for Tommie, it's hard to say. You can't look at the numbers because 3 games is too little, especially for a DT. But it seems clear the coaches aren't loving what they see on tape. I half think them sitting him wasn't meant to be motivational at all, but trying to assess what they have in the rest of the DT corp. Also I'm somewhat encouraged because I believe they don't do this if they didn't have confidence in the reserves -- Harris wasn't playing terrible so this does not smell like an act of desperately trying to reach him... Just my gut feeling anyway. But if Toe and Melton are truly ready to step in, I'm a lot less nervous.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Oops, I meant DT. We let all of our starting DE's go for nothing. Miss you Alex Brown.

    And I hope your right that we have enough back up. And then what to do with Tommie?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    yeah, he's an expensive backup to have if that's all that's on the cards for him ...

    And has anyone got these games recorded? Was Tommie on the receiving end of any double-teams/chips? We're all assuming Chili is getting all the double-teams, but is he? I'm sure I saw Tommie make headway into a few pockets .. was he that bad? I was too busy watching Peppers and Urlacher and Briggs ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Tommie was getting a bunch of double teams in the 1st half of the Det game. I haven't gotten any further than that.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Aha. Thanks Z. The plot thickens. I have a feeling Lovie is scape-goating Shabba and Tommie - in order to send out a message to the rest - "I will bench you".

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Left guard Roberto Garza (knee), left tackle Chris Williams (hamstring) and rookie free safety Major Wright (hamstring) did not practice Thursday due to injuries.

    Safety Chris Harris (neck) and defensive end Israel Idonije (foot) were limited as the Bears continued to prepare for Sunday night

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Great. Garza's frakked now. Can we just throw in Edwin Williams now since Asiata's gone? oooh - he's a Center with good leadership skills. Mmmmmm.

    From http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/502785

    Positives: Durable, high-effort center. Good initial quickness off the snap. Good hand placement and flashes the lateral quickness to stay square to the defender. Alert. Makes the line calls and is quick to pick up unexpected blitzes. Good initial pop and can turn the defender to create a hole. Shows some agility as a run blocker. Can move in space and block at the second level and on screens. Comfortable snapping out of the shotgun. High character guy. Competitive with a good work ethic; always hustling and positive-thinking leader.

    Negatives: Relies on his initial foot quickness to turn defenders in the running game, but struggles to sustain. Only phone booth quickness. Quickly tires and lacks straight-line speed. Lunges at defenders at the second level, too often getting just a piece of them. Good initial pop as a pass blocker, but can be wrestled to the ground. High effort, but is a limited athlete ho can be beaten by quicker and stronger defensive tackles.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    CWilliams is out for sure.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Garza is listed as probable on the final injury report.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXROwsUNh8k&feature=sub

    Roy breaks down the Giants.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Did anyone order a pizza?

  • In reply to JonHughes:

    Hey Jon, where's Cheesy?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5CyNyzasQ

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Haha, love the analysis JWC.

    I'm mildly shocked Seifert managed to write this piece, but it's a good look at how the "new" Smith didn't come out of nowhere:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17159/lovie-smith-is-3-0-doing-it-his-way

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Welcome Bear Sac (see how I did that).... Might want to change the last part of your handle though man.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Attention little Packer Trolls AND Charles Woodson for that matter:

    Regarding the pass interference call on Morgan Burnett with under 2 minutes to go...

    "...no question about it. Pass intended for Earl Bennett and he was held all the way." - Wayne Larivee on the PACKERS' radio braodcast.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yeah, Woodson was talking out of his ass. He even admitted he didn't even actually see the play (he was near the line of scrimmage).

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yeah, Woodson was talking out of his ass. He even admitted he didn't even actually see the play (he was near the line of scrimmage).

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Wow...that is the coolest profile pic I've seen on this site. What an awesome moment that was...straight out the tunnel.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Hey thanks BD82. It's actually right before he ran into the tunnel... still one of the greatest moments in Bear history etched vividly into my mind.

    (I wasn't sure if it was too blurry to tell...)

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I was at that San Fran game. It was the second time in two weeks we won on MB ints for TD's in OT I believe. The stadium was shaking from people jumping up and down. Sat next to Andy Shaw, news reporter channel 7, and bowled his 8 year old kid over during all the excitement. Kid wasn't hurt so it was all good.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Great story -- wish I could have been there. Was living down in Champaign at the time.

    I can honestly say though that I watched through the end of both games, and had faith they'd pull it out... But I was shocked that it happened the same way. Mike Brown man, what a great Bear... and humble too.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Sure am Glad Fewell didn't sign on with the Bears this off season. NY isn't doing much on D this year and they do have a very talented squad. Wasn't he the guy that turned down an interview with the Bears?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I believe that you are correct sir. We need to get them down early and keep the pedal floored. This is a talented team and we don't want them thinking that they are in this game.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I have to get some money on this game. Anyone use any trustworthy sports betting sites that actually pay out?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Personally speaking, the most trustworthy betting strategy for me is to not bet at all Z. I can't tell you how many sure bets I lost back in the day.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Sportsbook.com has been good to me. Took Stanford last week and won big.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    What kind of roll? If you want to put $500 or less on the game, a reliable site was (and still is, I believe) SIA (sportsinteraction.com).

    Their lines can be pretty bad sometimes, and their juice (10 points) sucks (which is why they can afford to miss on their lines), but they are based in Canada and are reliable when it comes to money/payouts/etc. Max bet per line is to win is just $500 though.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Move to Ireland Z. You can bet legally on anything and problem drinking is the norm.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Fewell is a good coach. Very good, actually. The Giants don't have anywhere near the defensive talent in the front 7 we have. People don't realize that we have the best linebacking corps in football.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Even even I agree with your assessment of our team, are the Giants really that bad. Their pass defense is pretty stout, what's your reason for that?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Jeff, we really do have the best linebacking corps in football. People call me a homer when i say that but if you look at those 3 badasses it makes me smile. Rodgers is lucky he is a smart football player because on his touchdown run he made a slight ball fake that made Pisa alter his trajectory by one foot that would have allowed him to get the perfect money shot at the pylon. Rodgers is good. Pisa would have ended his season. He still wacked him but on the side of his body and not directly on his left shoulder. I love our linebackers.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I saw that too... I had a bad feeling when I saw that extra step. But still, the LBs are really fucking playing out of their minds now, and it's difficult to comprehend just how much Peppers has been a force.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I think we have the best front 7 (plus backups) in the NFL, but I maybe a homer on that ...

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I wouldnt necessarily view this as the Kool Aid drinking section, I think a lot of our 'unbiased' support is tounge in cheek and wishful thinking. BUT, I'd like to think for the most part every here knows not to get too carried away with any success. Again we were 3-1 last season too!

    That being said, BEAR DOWN BITCHEZ, hahaha.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I think the biggest difference between last years start and this years start is simple.. By game 3 or 4 last year everyone knew what play we were going to call on any given situation. Everyone! Not just me and you and most every person that reads this blog, but opposing coaches as well.
    This year I have no idea what is coming on any down, any situation. This makes me excited. It also will make us 4-0.

  • In reply to Church:

    +1 end. ur extremely right about that.

  • In reply to Church:

    And our Start last year, and the remainder of the season, featured Hattie Hillenmeyer in the Mike, the memory of which still shrivels my ballsack.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    People discount our Detroit win because of one play, not knowing that we fumbled away an opportunity to win by thirty. People discount Green Bay because of penalties? Really? Penalties? Are those not part of the game any more? Were any of the penalties on Green Bay even close to NOT being penalties? They held a defender who beat them and interfered with receivers who'd beaten them.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Especially the false starts.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    This is the game that Peppers gets a bunch of sacks. He's been a beast, he dictates what opposing offenses try to do more so than any Bears lineman in recent memory. I don't think Terry's biracial son or the hamburgler can get anything done against us so Peyton's little brother will be dropping back a lot on Sunday night. 3 sack night for Peppers.

    Bearsss

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I'd love to see someone spike Eli's water bottle with LSD and see his reaction during the game. I just thought I'd point that out for no good reason.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Dont forget our missed oppurtunities as well Jeff. We should of won by 13 points.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    +1 x1000.

    The thing is DET was lucky to even be in position to win. The fact that Bears won DESPITE all their turnovers means nothing to these people. Instead because the call went for the Bears, it's held against them.

    By contrast, despite the Cowboys and Packers not playing their best games, and even if the Bears were "lucky" to be in position to win at the end... they give the "better" team a pass. Double standard right?

    Also agree 100% on the penalties.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    We kicked Detroit's ass. 20 yards rushing, We beat the crap out them, and the world and his wife said we were lucky because the officials didn't rule an incomplete pass to be a touchdown. Yeah, and there was a trombone that wasn't ruled a unicorn too. Jebus.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    When we had Jamar Williams, undeniably so. Mang, I wish Angelo had the cojones to get Jamar back. But he's a vagina, so there we have it.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    This article says it all about JA's ability to draft. If the question this guys raises has an ounce of truth to it about Omiyale beating Williams out of a job means that yes, once again, Jerry screwed the pooch on draft day.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/17179/chatwrap-will-chris-williams-re-gain-job

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Yup, we weren't worth talking to. F-you Fewell. F-you in the face.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    21-10 BEARS!

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    scratch that. 27-10 Bears

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    For all of us Bennett fans on the blog: http://www.chicagobears.com/DailyBlogs.asp?DAILY_BLOG_DATE=09/30/10

    Take Martz' heavy love and blow jobs approach with a grain of salt, but I'm a Bennett fan.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Love that guy. He is a solid WR and will continue to make plays

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    NFL.COM has O-line stats new, is that new ? Omelette supporters pay close attention !

    Anyhoo...

    No doubt we'll murderlise the Giants no matter what happens on Sunday night, but some food for thought for those who are drinking the O-line looks better Kool-aid :

    QB-hits : Cutler tied for 6th most battered sex symbol in the NFL. 18 kerrangs.

    Sacks : Jay Christopher is the joint-sixth most brutalised gunslinger in said league. 8 flattenings.

    Rushing average : 27th in the league - 3.2 YPR

    And here we hit the crux of the rushing problem, the fog lifts and things become clearer and my suspicions now have actual substantive proof. Newsflash. Omelette sucks. These numbers don't lie.

    Rush Pwr = Percentage of rushes on 3rd or 4th down with 2 or fewer yards to go that achieved a first down or TD. Also includes rushes on 1st-and-goal and 2nd-and-goal from the opponent's 2-yard line or closer.

    I was worried about Garza and Kreutz coming into this season. Time waits for no man. But when Omelette got switched to LT and people were all "Oh, Omelette's great now. It's all okay." alarm bells went off in my head. How is this possible? Well, it's not, it seems. No running game. Why? Look no further than you know who.

    Rush PWR (Running right) - 24th in the NFL

    Rush PWR (Running Center) - 20th in the NFL

    Rush PWR (Running Left) - 31st in the NFL. Your LT, Frank Ohmygod. (Jags with MJD are somehow worse.)

    Egg-watch resumes next week.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Didn't we get Tice from the Jags?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    watching the league, fucking hilarious

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    +1

    Shivaaaaa - Shiva Nagilaaa .....

    I watched the whole season in a couple of hours the other night. It made me want to live in the States and still be drinking. And have that Doctor's house, and the Jewish guy's wife ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Very funny show

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I don't think anyone has said Omiyale is great now. What the line has proven is that even when overwhelmed by a top notch pass rushing team, that with Tice's and Martz's adjustments they can find a way to get the job done in pass protection...

    Even with 7 step drops... even against 5, 6, 7, and (believe it or not) 8 man blitzes... even with Omiyale having to go 4 plays in a row 1-on-1 against Ware.

    Do I think he could go 100 plays against Ware/Matthews/etc without giving up a sack? I'd have to see a lot more from him before I'd ever say that. He might even be below average for an LT. But Tice, Martz, and that OL _are_ getting the job done (at least after the first 2-3 series each game).

    Heck, I'm not even going so far as to say they'll get it done all 16 weeks, because they probably will have some bad weeks along the way. But it is a far cry from the hopeless disaster many of us were afraid of... wouldn't you agree?

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Yes. I still want an upgrade though. And another S and WR. I am a greedy fan.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    +1
    and that magical elusive replacement/project for Urlacher must come sometime.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Oh yeah, of course. I'm a strong believer in "it all starts up front"...

    But the only upgrades coming mid-season are going to be from guys improving and coming back from injury. I think it's too early to say that OL has reached anything close their peak.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    To be honest Michael, pre-pre-season I was expecting more from our O-line buying the kool aid from what we were hearing from training camp was that Louis and Asiata were coming along nicely. Manu would be a savior. Omiyale would be designated a backup etc. I certainly didn't foresee the drop-off int he running game. With Manu, Chester and a fully rehabbed Forte, not what any of us were expecting I'm sure. Was expecting some backlash from the long drop backs by Cutler but not to this extent. Why haven't we seen more planned roll-outs on which he does so well? More screens?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Shotgun? Anything to start the game until we see how long it takes the O-line to calm down. I like my franchise QB to be all in one piece.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    That's not a bad idea Z especially since the O-line seems to take 2 or 3 possessions to settle down and start to contain.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I think the sample size for what Irish is looking at is waaaaaaay too small to consider it to be an indictment of any specific OL in the league. We've run how many off-tackle left running plays this year? It's almost comparing individual running plays at that point.
    As Michael said, what we do know is he beat Ware one-on-one four straight snaps. That's nothing to sneeze at after CW and Shaffer's disastrous turns at LT in the same game.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I found Big Cheesy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0bQh2ipARI&feature=channel

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    My concern is the dreaded "Emotional Letdown" after THE rivalry game victory.

    Remember, 50% of this game is 90% emotional.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The Giants should be concerned about the
    dreaded "Physical Beatdown" when we come to NY.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    One of these weeks I think the O is going to go off but I"m not sure when. It looks like a trap game to me. Big emotional game Monday night, short week, night game ... I still think we win unless the wheels come off the O. I think it will be a close game. Still not going to pick it this week. Gotta pay respect to the curse.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Am I the only one who's considerably nervous about this game? Here are a few reasons I don't feel quite as confident as the Blogfather et al:
    1. Letdown/Trap game. The "We're Worldbeaters and our shit don't stink" mentality this team has had occasionally over the past half a decade when they are supposed to win.
    2. In the NFL, usually the team that's more desperate wins. The G-Men are at home, and they stink on ice right now, and at 1-3 they're on the outside looking in. That scares me.
    3. I'd rather be the underdog, plain and simple, and this team plays better when the national media serves them up shit sandwiches.

    I think we win, but I'm still cautiously optomistic at best. If we do win this game, there's no reason we shouldn't be at least
    7-1 at the bye.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Matty, Aatty, Matty. Are you kidding?

    I'm ALWAYS nervous about them. It's been cultivated by almost 50 years of pessimistic, Bears pragmatism.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    They are underdogs and very few people are picking them. I also think the "more desperate team wins" thing is actually made up by someone and is not provable. If a team isn't good, they aren't good. Who cares if they're desperate?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I'm sure the 0-14 Lions were pretty desperate to win one of their last two games that year ...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Don't forget that last 2% there.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If the Bears beat the Giants 31-10, I almost be as happy as this guy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKQqwhaNZMI&feature=related

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Sorry for all the Youtube posts. My 11 year old Son and I were cruising the Web last night and couldn't help ourselves. I digress from time to time and am truly remorseful this morning.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Doesn't anyone know what Major Wright's status is? Will he be back soon?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I initially heard 6 weeks for Pringles. I bet he's not ready until after the bye.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    He had a serious hamstring injury -- unofficial, but looks like a Grade 2 strain (partial tear). I'll see if I can dig up the article.

    Those types of hamstring injuries are very variable... Just to heal it can take 2-6 weeks plus rehab.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Btw, Sac Bear... I was just messing with you man. No disrespect intended. Any handle with "#1" in it makes me nervous now.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    " we're gonna have to make room for all the bandwagoners in the coming weeks"

    So it would seem.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Ha! I saw how you did that Dave.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Been reading the blog since the beginnning of last year.. never felt a need to sign up and leave a comment until I saw the comments after the GB game about them being robbed. I HAD to sign up. As for Sac.. come to Cali and watch a game at Bears fans west coast HQ.
    Fresno..make a trip up sometime.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    I was gonna say Sacto's biggest bears fan but my boy is 6'2 320lbs so I think he takes that title. But thanks for the warm welcome kids.

  • In reply to Jlehr:

    Can your boy get push off of the line in the running play?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Ha.. he played in college but that dude is out of shape now.. otherwise I would buy him a ticket to Chi town.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Bet college football. As a former gambler, I probably made between 5 and 10 grand betting college. I would guess I ultimately lost money on the pros.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    The last time I gambled was in Vegas. Twas up 30 Grand and stumbled back to my room with 1500 bucks in my pocket. To this day, I'm still not sure if it was the 4th dealer in 15 minutes that the New York New York pitboss subbed to kill my roll or the last Crown and Coke.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac's a baller

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Was a baller Coach. Now I live a very safe and blessed life. Don't get me wrong, I still have normal ups and downs but the roller coaster ride is over thank God.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It sure could be fun though ...

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Gives new meaning to the phrase "Giants Blue"

    Note: NFSW

    http://ist1-4.filesor.com/pimpandhost.com/1/_/_/_/1/k/Q/A/j/kQAj/300.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    That is avatarded GPL. Whoever gets boned up from that shit should live in a dungeons and dragons game.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I'm going to put my hand up and say that 12 foot blue chick in Avatar kinda turned me on. And that the whole movie was basically a waste of time and money.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'd wager the *first* Crown and Coke. There's a reason those drinks are free :0)

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Alumni are suckers.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Internationals and Champions league soccer. I never lost overall. The draw is your friend. Now horse racing is a different story ...

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    All I know is I'd really like to see JCut play a clean game with no Int's and making good solid decisions. Too damned many close calls last week that we're saved by the Pack penalties, and a couple of dropped balls. Want to see more than "just enuf offense".
    I don't think the Giants are have the 'air of confidence' that Dallas and the Packers had and are going to be a little more cautious in their approach to beat the Bears which could make them a more dangerous considering the pressure is on already on with a 1 and 2 record. On he otherhand..if they went into another meltdown..that'd work for us too!! he he

  • I honestly don't care how the public or experts account for the wins... I just want wins baby.

    To the point however, bad and desperate teams don't win often. It's when a talented team in disarray is pushed to the brink that they might finally get it together... or so the idea goes. Who cares though? They just need to stay focused and T.C.B.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    All over that first sentence. Just rack up the Ws however we can.

  • That'll be the media line no matter what we do Doc. I don't care just as long as we kick the crap out them. Which we will.

  • change NOTHING sd... nothing. Throw hers out if you have to.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    "... lays me down with my mind she runs ..."

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    " ...throughout the night ... no need to fight ... never a frown with golden brown ..."

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You'll know when I don't think they're going to win. The score gets very, very close.

  • True, Doc. 3 Weeks is Nothing. Zero. Zip. Nada.

    QWe've all seen some 0-3 team right the ship but we seen MORE 3-0 teams come apart.

    Was it not the last time we played the Giants, at Soldier Field, that Hester dropped a perfect rainbow from Rex that should have been an 80 yard knockout punch and, instead, that game and that season went right down the drain?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    It should be noted that last season the Bears for 3-1 after 4 games.

  • Take up shooting Heroin? "Golden Brown ...texture like sun..."

  • Surrogate wife? Hahaha. Sounds like trouble man... ;)

    I say go with what's worked. Worst case you've got leftovers.

  • Agree with Doc, trust the math guy.

  • Roy is awesome. Definitely seems like a guy you could kick back a brew with and enjoy the game...

    The guy gained a bit of notoriety two summers ago because he started recording video of training camp and started putting up daily highlights on YouTube. It spun the ENTIRE chicago beat writer pool into a frenzy...

    He was cool about it though -- despite them trying to vilify him. He's just a die hard fan like the rest of us, and wanted to share what he was seeing at camp. I'm glad he's got this new film room thing going because he's a character (and he does find interesting plays to put through slow-mo).

  • In reply to 750mL:

    Big Roy fan. Can't get enough of the film room stuff.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    I loved it when he was sitting out in the snow on a median trying to get Lovie fired. I think. Funny, he gave his GB game ball to Lovie!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We chat via Youtube - he really is a die-hard fan, he really does live and die with the Bears. I like that.

  • No you're not and yes I would. Burmese live-in housekeeper Doc? I still haven't given up on that one. I know Burmese isn't going to happen in the States, but I'm sure you have equivalents.

  • Ah, Roy, he has a few himself, don't worry. Makes me miss, cool, sweet beer when I see him chug one down...

    Oh God. Got the second twin home yesterday which was good. I'm afraid we're going to mix them up and they'll grow up with the wrong identity (as if it would make much difference). Anyway, they sleep like ... well, babies ... in the evening. Not a peep. And then you bring them up to bed. Jebus. Feeding time every three hours my ass. "I'll have *some* milk now ... and then in a little while I think I'll have some more ... but I'll make noise until then and my sister would like to be fed at a different time, and she will be loud when I'm quiet and vice versa. Capiche?"

    My bedroom is like Guantanamo bay. It's Camp X-Ray. Abu Ghraib. No longer a sanctuary of sleep. My partner has become Samuel L Jackson in 'Unthinkable'.
    Yes, it's all wonderful. Help me Stuart Smalley,. Help me.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish...aaaaaaahhhhh... remember those sleep deepervation days..not! hey blessings to the twins and the bride bro..

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    damn fingers sorry for the.... grammar

  • Hester has actually said in an interview that he'd prefer to be returning kicks fulltime. He knows he's not Jerry Rice and never will be. He also knows that he could be re-writing the record books as a return man. they're not even utilising his speed at WR. How many go-routes has he run? let the man concentrate on what he does best and then we can have Knox/Bennett AND Shabba doing what they do best.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    irish all I can say is...nice way to FU@#!%$!%K UP a players mindset LDL

  • I have been one of Lovie's harshest critics. I have to give a lot of props for the inactive/benchings even if I don't totally agree with all of them. Lovie may have had a doghouse for a few players before (not always properly used IMO) but this level of demanding performance from everyone is great.

    Whether it is originating from Lovie or just getting rubber stamped by him, he still has the final say. This is improvement.
    I don't need him to be extremely emotional (not that I think he actually could). To me making a $10 million player inactive sends a much stronger message to the whole team than screaming at someone for a minute coming off of the field anyways.

    Good job coaching staff.

    Good job Lovie.

    Not have both of those guys active. Seriously.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Lovie may be our most improved player this season! I prefer taking the points to 'going for it', but you can't please all of the people all of the time. I don't like the benching of those particular players - we need them on the field, particularly Tommmie - but I like that he's benching *someone*. But can we have them back for the Giants please? I want the soul-erection of a 9-0 start, thanks.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Agreed on all points. The 1st 4th and 1 I think you definitely take the points. The 2nd one was a tougher call for me. I even said, "Man tough, tough call to make." The way they were driving most of the game I just wasn't that confident in us stopping them from getting out of being backed up down there.

    Whatever, it's working. Do your thing coaches. Just win baby!!!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I'm fine with the 4th and goal against the Lions because they're the Lions. But, I would have taken the points and tied the game against the the explosive Pack in that situation. You gotta look at the team your lining up against in assessing these 4th and goals.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    i would agree if the OC was Turner. Martz dialed up the perfect play and the ball was just dropped. i want the Bears to go for that shit. What do we have to lose mang? Nothing, and that is why this season is going to be fun.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Last week, we had the game to lose. It worked out, but if we continue to take those chances and fail, it will cost us a game or two down the line. With that said mang, I love Martz's arangatang nads and I'm ghroing a Pedo-beard this week (whatever that is) to salute them.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    a pedo-beard would probably look most like a semi sculpted beard with a heavier emphasis on the stache and sparse, almost public like, hair above the jaw line.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    fucking lack of spell check

    PUBIC

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm all about public hair. Gotta show people you have hair mang.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Reading Giant's fan's comments make me want to stab plastic KFC sporks into my eyeballs.

    http://www.bigblueview.com/2010/9/30/1722171/five-questions-with-windy-city-gridiron

    Oy.

    It's a great glimpse into how the rest of America sees us, and the main reason I stay away from all non-Kool Aid drinking media. It is bad for my health.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    This line was great...

    BigBlueDouche: "If you could take one player off the Giants roster and put him in your lineup, who would it be? Why?"

    WindyCityGridiron: "Great question. I'd probably say Eli Manning, because it would be nice to have a solid #2 QB behind Jay Cutler"

    BigBlueDouche: "Thanks, Dane. Enjoyed it, except for the Eli answer"

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I scanned some of that, and it appears that there are a lot of Giants fans that actually believe they are going to win Sunday night. Hmm...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Every Packer fan assumed they were going to beat us. Fudgers.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Show you what a $#%@ douchebag Noble is for not saying JPP immediately.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Heh, the Eli answer is funny. Also "big cheese" should never be used to refer to a Bears fan.

    Also can I say I hate it when fans or media say things like "He could have thrown 5 INTs"? Besides simply defying logic, it's a cowardly way to explain away what actually happened as luck without giving up your stupid worldview.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    For real, he basically threw 5 picks ... and he has a realllly short memory when he lasers it to the opposition.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Jaworski endorsed the Bears as for real on "Same & Samer" this morning.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    that was funny

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I BELIEVE Steve Czaban coined that phrase.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Now I have to ask is this fine for the pair?:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/01/it-cost-shaun-smith-10000-to-grab-a-guys-junk/

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    "If Smith wants to keep up his hit streak this week, he'll have to do it in practice."

    lol

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    O.K. so if Ginny has LDL's and JA's in jars on her desk..does she get fined? or is that part of the collective bargaining?...just asking..

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Before the Season I made a pledge to never criticize the Bears again if they went 16-0 and to never stop criticizing them if they went 0-16.
    Keep hope alive boys.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    We can't go 16-0 Trac, the Dolphins are on our schedule ... that's why 9-0 is the max.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    And if it were true that Lovie would have been this quick to enforce lack of execution or even more importantly IMO lack of effort if he had the depth to bench/inactivate people, how much more of an indictment is that of JA that he can't get enough decent players for his head coach to even be able to threaten people with reduced time if they don't execute/show effort?

    Would I be a jerk for still wanting a new GM if we go 19-0?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    *Now get both of those guys active. Seriously.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Z..Irish...I actually think by benching Butter was a great thing..the others seemed to of stepped up and smell blood in the water..They all want to be the starters. Even though they are buds in the locker room I am sure you put that hand in the grass and the first thought is I want in and who ever is in my way will get bulldozed to the side. Even if it's the Great Butter!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I don't think Shabba gets back from this. Martz was quoted as saying he didn't realise how good Bennett was in the slot. I can see Shabba getting dealt.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Tommie Harris is only at about $7M cap hit this year.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Z, Irish, ML, others talking lovie

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I am just thrilled that Lovie seems to be getting out of the way a bit and letting the guys that are experts in their particular areas do their thing. That is a big improvement.

    I try to be Lovie and JA's biggest critic but you and Irish are tough to compete with.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Let Lovie do what he is good at - getting the players like him. If what Pep had to say is true, Smith can be a real asset.

    Way down in the responses, the subject of Turner comes up - you guys know that I had called him the biggest problem ever since I've been here. I AM SO HAPPY HE IS GONE!

    Angelo should be next.

    Who is the next Jim Finks? Let's get him!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Parcells is not happy in Miami, right?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I've always said that I can live with Lovie, but the son of Lucifer that inhabits the body of our GM is something I can't abide, mang.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I would rather have Lovie than Chan Gailey, John Fox, Eric Mangini, Wade Phillips, Josh McDaniels, Jim Schwartz, Jack Del Rio, Brad Childress, Tom Cable, Norv Turner, Raheem Morris, Steve Spagnuolo, and an old Tom Coughlin. That's just the ones off my head. Lots of bad coaching around the league.

    Angelo is the one primarily drafting players. His hard on for drafting D lineman (something that he claims is his speciality...Dusty? Tank? Bazuin? Tommie? Michael Haynes????) has created huge Pamela Anderson type gaps on the o-line, secondary and offensice specialty positions. Angelo and not Lovie continue to be the Bears #1 enemy. If an average fan could have watched the Bears last year and realized that the O-line was the greatest concern; why couldn't slick Jerry add some player personnel to that unit? You tryin to kill your franchise QB that you gave your left and right nut for? I do give Lovie props for persuading Tice to join the squad as well as the other former HC. All this HC experience is definitely helping; especially with decreasing Lovie's old stubborn coaching style and replacing it with in-game adjustments if need be.

    It's not like Angelo had a stellar record before joining the Bears. Angelo-director of player personnel for the Bucs from 1987-2000. During that stretch, the Bucs averaged 6.5 wins for those 13 seasons. That's the type of hire you get when you let Mr. President Phillips, who admittedly knows nothing about football and stays on the "business operations" side of things to hire your GM. GM and President are the two biggest dead weights, not Lovie.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I'm still holding out hope for Manu and have seen him do some things; but he looked pretty bad chip blocking Ware and has yet to show me why he got paid such bank. Makes me wonder if KD, with his big frame, could have done the same thing leaving money for a Rolle, Atogwe, Boldin, Van Den Botsch type addition or even re-signing AB.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    + all of that

  • In reply to Crowned:

    +1
    I was worried we might have paid too much for Pep, glad to see we didn't. Atogwe would have been sweet though.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Hmmm. It is definitely more interesting when you name those other coaches. I don't want them either. But we are Da Bears. We should consistently have one of the best coaches in the game. Sorry Lovie, please keep winning.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I'm not ready to call Martz a genius until he realizes we don't have the personnel to run the wildcat.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Yeah we can scrap that shit. J should be behind center every snap IMO.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    And runs screens and more shotgun stuff and doesn't get Cutler murdered.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I agree we *should*. But the sad truth is that the Bears have never in their entire long history ever hired an established, proven head coach not named George Halas. Not once.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Hallelujah brother Crown. Philips is rarely mentioned. But look at him, just *look* at him. The first two heads that should roll ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Martz and a relatively healthy squad are "Thee" difference this year. Given all Turners lack of ingenuity, injuries at key Defensive positions probably had more to do with our losing ways than anything else. We won the NFC Championship game with none other than Rex Grossman ala Ron Turner's play calling but our D and special teams were rockin. I know the injury diagnosis makes it really hard to lower the boom on Lovie but I definitely think it's not intellectually honest to discount it either. When you have a poor D because you're starting 2nd and 3rd stringers, say goodbye to your running game because you're gonna be forced to throw the rock.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Are you talkin about this year Trac my man? You think we have a poor D? We're owning run stoppage and our pass D has contained two of the most explosive offensives in the game. I wouldn't consider Big Toe or Harrison a 2nd or 3rd stringer. Melton and Jennings were definitely fit into that mold, but they weren't starting. We haven't tried to run this year yet. We are last in the league in rush attempts by about 50.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    No Crown, I was addressing one of the questions MB was addressing about the last three years. This year our D is rocking because we have Peppers and a healthy D.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Tis true Trac. Everyone said Pep would help most in passing situations, but I've thought he has had more of an impact on stopping the run thus far. Very impressive everything this guy can do.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    But 31st in Rush Pwr rating behind the Omelette, just sayin' ...

    Omelette. Leopards and their spots. What about our biggest Bear?

    I'd like to see us try out J'Marcus Webb at LT (who hasn't looked terrible at limited snaps at RT). I mean, the dude is a LT naturally, he and Shaffer could be pretty good bookends, moving Omelette to the bench. And he's regarded as a run-blocker, hint hint ! Diamond in the rough, needs coaching up that's all.

    From CBSsports:

    Positives: Prototypical body, natural athlete despite his size. Has lateral movement, nice anchor and arm length to extend and keep rushers at bay. Strong run blocker who is capable of turning his man and getting out into space to neutralize defenders. Could play left or right tackle with his athleticism/strength combination.

    Negatives: Project player. Has all of the physical tools but work ethic and intelligence are major issues. Bad body language at Texas vs. the Nation practices turned off teams, but he turned on his game on for a few seconds once the ball was snapped and looked like a player. Played at Texas, had to transfer to JUCO then West Texas A&M.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1620417

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Yeah, they love playing up Orton's win record. But I don't recall him 'winning' any of those 10 games he won as a rookie. And when I read people's comments elsewhere about 'Yeah well Rex Grossman got the Bears to the superbowl at least ...' I get a little sick in my mouth.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I buy that. At the same time, he did bring in the right personnel so credit where credit's due. the fact that he's delegated stuff to the professionals i.e. Tice, Martz, Marinelli ... was at least the smart thing to do. As President Truman said, "The world is run by 'C' students." Lovie's more like a borderline fail-student, but he got the smart kids to do his homework and take his exams. I'm down with that. If he's getting kudos and too much credit off the media, well, I don't care. Ws is all that counts. But you're right, a tiger doesn't change their stripes. He's a 'tard, but he's our 'tard, and I like our other coaches. Toub, Marinelli, Tice, Martz - that's not a bad team. they'll counter-act most of his doosh-ness and oxygen-deprived behaviour.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Oh, and... BOOM: http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/24cgCh/i.cdn.turner.com/si/.element/img/4.0/global/swapper/201009/100929.17.jpg/r:t

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Wow: How is it possible to launch your career to a new level...bing bada boom:
    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b69Vg

    remember boys it's all about the spin in the NFL Today!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I won't lie, I would like to see what that looks like lol

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Irish, glad the girls are both home. Sorry about the sleep deprivation. I've worked 12.5 hour rotating shifts (nights, days, weekends, holidays) most of my adult life so I'm very sympathetic.

    I'm so sick of Tommie I really don't care what they do with him. He's like a smoking hot girlfriend that's super high maintenance. At some point they aren't THAT good looking.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Good analogy, Canada.

    Case in point:

    Betwen them, Christie Brinkley and Cheryl Tiegs have had EIGHT husbands say "Eh, I'm tired of this".

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    "I did all right, but I didn't do Tommie Harris good," -Tommie on Tommie,

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP---Wow...does any one but Butter know what the hell just said? I think I may have just hurt myself thinking that quote through. thanks GP..lol

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i'm going to start saying that at work if i ever totally screw up and don't meet my God given potential

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    johnny..........hahahahahahahahahahahaha! if you don't will your boss bench you?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    yes, but he won't actually tell me that i'm doing poorly because he doesn't want to shatter my delicate millionaire ego. I liked Tommie better when he was poor and hungry. He was an animal. Now you have to let Melton and Big Samoan Toe get a shot. This is also Harrison's shot to play big.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dude is delusionally stuck in '07. Not a good sign when players speak in first person. Like I've said before, I don't remember what "good" Tommie looks like, it's been too long.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    +1 on the third person thing.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Third person, yea

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Actually if you post the whole context of the quote, it's clear what he's saying.

    He was asked about his performance the first 2 games, and he said he played okay but not up to the standards he sets for himself.

  • In reply to 750mL:

    The standards he said he sets for himself is pro bowl level. He's played in 1 pro bowl. I hope he makes a comeback when given his next chance

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but he made 3 pro bowls, no? 2005-07? Or did you mean he only actually played in 1 (since I remember he bowed out of at least 1...)?

  • In reply to Crowned:

    You have to love Roy. Chester Taylor's Twitter account features a photo of him in a Vikings uniform. Roy puts together a technical walkthrough on how to change your photo. Sweet.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH7R0ErDJBE&feature=sub

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I think the saying goes, "Not matter how hot she is, some guy somewhere is sick of taking her shit."

    There's another more crude version, but I personally don't think that one holds up.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Thanks man, and change your job :o)

  • Sd..the pisser about that is If LDL would of never had the Hekyll/Jekyll Experiment on DH they would of seen him as a threat for the last few years and not just since the GB game.

  • Bears sac is # 622. still respectable

  • Last number I read was 6 Weeks.

  • Oh duh. Right, my mistake. Can't believe I got confused that easily.

    So I know the line was already at -4 on Tuesday, and someone posted after the game that Giants opened at -3... if so then the line moved because of 1) injury/starter info discovered Monday night, or 2) heavy bettor action.

    The only game injuries revealed I think were Garza, C Harris, Idonije. But I bet there were a lot of non-believers who felt the Bears were lucky to win and got a bet in against them right after the game while that emotion was still strong...

    BTW Doc, you're a math guy? Cool... what do you do?

  • +1. In fact, Smith's first choice at OC in 2004 was a Martz-like offense. He pulled the hook on Shea after one year. Turner I'm pretty certain was JA's suggestion, and I don't remember many decent OC candidates being available in 2005.

    MB, part of the problem is that Smith was hired very late in the 2004 off-season... so he had scraps left to assemble his staff. Tampa Bay refused to let Marinelli interview. Shea had never been an OC either. If you look at what has happened over the years, basically they've slowly replaced almost all their assistant coaches (mostly pulled from college) with proven NFL ones -- like Hoke, Tice, etc...

    The fact that Smith has been able to do that, particularly this year and last year when everyone knew the job security was tenuous (aka the proverbial "hot seat"), is a testament to the charisma and management of Lovie Smith.

    Believe me, I've had my criticisms of Smith over the years, but when I look objectively at what he's done over his career at the Bears -- starting off hamstrung, and building up to the team and staff we have today -- it's hard to not give him credit.

    Oh, I can't say all that without mentioning BIG TIME PROPS for picking up Dave Toub from the get go. That's the one hire I loved in 2004, but Toub has exceeded all those initial expectations... Actually exceed is understating it, he's blown them up with dynamite, pulverized the wreckage into microscopic bits, denatured the powder into plasma, and lit that up into pure energy and cosmic dust. Seriously, Toub rocks.

  • You were a Bears beat writer? Do tell.

  • Angelo is the cancer in the Bear's belly.

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