Two Weeks Til They Count

Two weeks from today the Chicago Bears will kickoff the 2010 campaign, having managed to lower expectations with three plodding, boring preseason outings.  For those of you who choose to ring the doomsday bell, remember that the 2006 Bears - the ones that went to the Super Bowl - were one of the worst preseason teams in fanchise history.  They lost painfully to the Niners and Cardinals and needed an INT return and kickoff return to beat the Chargers.  They were bad.  And folks like David Haugh were challenging the confidence of Lovie Smith every day in the Tribune. (David is at it again.  Possibly a good omen.)

What matters from this preseason?  The quarterback and receivers haven't fully developed their rhythm yet but they will.  The linebackers are battling some nagging injuries.  The offensive line has struggled on obvious passing downs.  The defense still can't really stop the pass and will be reliant on Orange Julius and the pass rush.

What else matters?  Nothing.  Zero.  If the Chicago Bears hold Detroit scoreless in the first half, no one will remember the preseason.  If Cutler & Co. drive the length of the field for an opening drive score, no one will be talking about timing.  The preseason does not count and it seems the only ones who've forgotten that are the fans.  Why?  Because we're hungry for football and this is the only football on. 

It starts in two weeks against the Detroit Lions.  Real football.  Bears football.  And I think we're going to see a terrific Bears effort and an important Week One victory.  But whatever the case may be, I'll reserve my evaluation for games that count towards the standings.  And I'm looking forward to that 1-0.

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  • First!!! You crazy bastards.

    Two weeks till they count? So, if we beat the Lion's we are the badass of the NFC north? I don't think so.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    No offense, 85, but I've already heard many a notable voice on this here blog say we will lose. And two weeks til they count only refers to the obvious, Jeff didn't say 'two weeks til we crown our ass!!'. Again, 85, no hostility, just sayin.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    I get it. I am just saying do you think our 1-0 record is going to look good? Is Detroit really going to show us how good the Bear's are?

    Beware of the little brother you pick on when he is little..evenutally he will kick your ass one day. Detroit looks primed to do it.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    If you're not worried, you're not a fan. There's plenty to be alarmed about this preseason, but I agree with Jeff, we all care now because there's nothing else to care about. When our team closes the preseason on Thurs. all I'm going to be thinking about is the opening Sunday against the Lions. These shitty little games will be a distant memory. Our defense will give up some plays this year, but I believe Urlacher and Peppers will make a big enough difference on that side of the ball to prevent the kind of complete collapses we saw last year.

    I wonder about our new offense, but our running game is dangerous enough to open up the passing game and take some pressure off our receivers. Once there's a true-blue game plan in place, we'll see the bears as they truly are.

    It's gonna be a good year.

  • In reply to WeShallReturn:

    my sentiments exactly on all points. although i'm worried as shit, i'll still go on the 11-5 front.

  • In reply to WeShallReturn:

    And amen to that, sir. I agree.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Anyhoo, I work nights like a vamp, I'm on Irish's schedule. Good night everybody.

  • Yes these games don't count, and thank your lucky stars they don't. Sermon to come later, after I've had time to digest my Sunday afternoon meal and Jeff's handy work.

  • ok Jeff...i'll hold out until Week 1 (and that's b/c Favre threw 2 picks yesterday also). being a Bears fan is stressful as fuck

  • As David said, it counted to the paid 60,000+ who had to pay to see mediocrity on the field. Jeff, I truly hope you are right and the light switches on in September. With that being said, he is my rant last night after the game:

    1st impressions. Jay Cutler sucked ass. Let's stop sugar coating players and call them out. Poor decisions with the ball. In the real season, that will bite us every time. Remember last year? O line. Started out strong. Gave Cutler time. L...ooked tired toward the end but showed improvement. With that being said, it was against the Cardinals. Defense. Peppers.. stud. Harris, someone take him to the ER to have a rape exam performed as that is what happened to him on AZ second TD. Secondary... more looser than Pam Anderson. Once again for the third week, showed every sign that teams can throw at will. Special teams.. who? And the wildcat and reversal? Stop trying to be cute and hit them in the mouth. These are just my observations.

    My second point. Fans saying it's just preseason and quit over reacting. I did not see Arizona laying down. Matt Lionhart scores on us? The same QB who in college sucked on his thumb after being hit? If this is just preseason then just go home. Better yet retire. Can't coach with em. Can't win with em. Can't do it. This is football. Not chess. You play to win the game. Pre or regular. And beyond you show some fucking passion on the field. You are wearing a Chicago Bears helmet. Do you have any idea the pride associated with it? Those who have played before you? The die hard fans that give their time and energy to see you play like a fucking pansie? Show some fucking heart. Yeah I never played the game and no I could never take the hits (heck I'd be paralyzed) but that is no reason to blow this off. Oh Briggs is hurt now or Urlacher calf is tweaked. When did Urlacher get hurt last year? In the regular season. What did I say earlier? This is football. Shit happens.

    This brings me to my final point. Lovie FUCKING Smith. This no good excuse of an attempt to be a head coach must go. The same passion I am critical of the players not having starts with him. I don't see him in anyone's grill at ANY point during a game. No wonder players said he's a players coach. Players got their pay day after the Super Bowl and got soft. Rivera, run out. Thomas Jones, run out. Hester... when teams had NO answers for him the brilliant mind of Lovie (with the help of Angelo) got their dicks hard to put Hester at WR. Oh they forgot to put 3 inches on Hester. And that pass tonight had Hester been a real WR, would have caught it. It is nice to see fans are finally seeing the light (many like myself knew this guy had to go a while ago) But for you fans that are still holding out, unless we get a Super Bowl win, he has to go. And answer this honestly. Based on what you've seen the last three weeks, do you think that will happen? If you say yes or anything is possible, then you are sleeping with Lovie. I feel that fans have more passion and get fired up for games to only watch a circus act. The Bears are the epitome of a two pump chump and fans have to finish themselves off later. But like a person whose in a bad relationshit, many revert back to 85 and "they love us" and will not hurt us again. Someone said I need to change my Beardown expression. Never will I but after eating Taco Bell and watching this shit tonight, I will go beardown now.

    PS I've not even ranted on Virgina McCassbags who hopefully will see better days and we can get new ownership.

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    Midseason form right there.

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    The better you are, the more vanilla you are going to run your schemes during preseason. Does it worry me that CH can't cover worth a shit? Yes. Does it worry me that CW was a turnstile last game? Yes. But they don't count yet...it's the Buffalo's and Detroit's of the league that have to get all puffed up and throw everything and the kitchen sink into their offensive sets during the preseason because they a) need the practice, and b) fluff up the fans before another season of 4-12. I am not worried...yet. So, yes, Denny, I'm going to treat this game like it was "bullshit".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP..CW is like a Gangbang..everyone gets a turn

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Buy hey, the popular "We're gonna play in the Super Bowl in our own stadium!" Cowpokes looked pretty crappy in THEIR "dress rehearsal game" last night.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Bears and Boys "Cat Fight"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlayxpHLJ4E

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    so what does that say exactly? haven't decided except....let's wait until week 1 to crucify them (not even watching the Browns game b/c it won't tell any of us shit)

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    So like I said, I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My ball hair is down, MB.

    I hate to be referring to '06 becase I know this team and more imprtantly, this division, is drastically different. But the reason it's hard not to site such an example is because I was at that SF game in preseason and we sucked. I don't mean we are on the path to the big one this year. But you or I don't know what the fuck will happen, we just gotta wait/see/speculate/hope some heads roll around my b-day in January if we fuck up.

    Have a good one brother..

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    I get it Ben, 1 game I get... but 3 in a row and getting worse against lesser teams each time? Nothing counts till mid sept for us, but from what I've seen so far we're in for a long year my man.

    Now go get some sleep. I'm sure we'll still be talking about this next week too.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Like I said, MB, I'll own it either way. I am no Lovie apologist, he can piss off. Just want my boys to light some folks up. Everyone sounding off about how we have no chance in hell vs Detroit sounds like blasphemy to me.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    The other thing that frustrates me.. I can't smack talk against the Fudgepacklets or Viqueens when our guys are playing pillow football. Oh wait, it's preseason.

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    All the more reason to go and kick the crap out of the Packers, Vegas. Twice. I said this before and I'll say it again, it'd be a worthwhile season for me if we swept the Fudgers and the Queens and lost the rest. Bragging rights for what counts and a new GM. Win win. Angelo = Bears mediocrity.

    I get it that pre-season games don't count .... but they do *matter*.

    How can we watch a pathetic O-line and say that it doesn't matter two weeks before the start of the season? That's the foundation of the whole frakkin organization! It's the be all and end all. Alpha and Omega. Sixteen sacks on our Franchise boy already. Are you kidding me? Forte and Chester and we can't run the ball! Really?

    It was Kreutz or Cutler that said the linemen were in the right places at least - like that was a good thing ?! That's worse !! That means there's nothing to fix. If they were in the wrong gap to begin with then that would explain why there was no blocking happening ... but if they're in the right place and there's *still* no blocking going on, how do you fix that? It means you're getting beaten, plain and simple. It means your linemen suck.

    There's nothing to work on there, you don't suddenly become a great blocker in two weeks. Roberto Garza and Olin Kreutz aren't suddenly going to develop speed and roll back the years on their joints and limbs. Omelette certainly isn't going to suddenly discover how to play football in the NFL. He sucked balls as a guard and isn't much better as a tackle. And what's going on there by the way? Tice very clearly stated that Kevin Schaeffer was the #2 Bear lineman based on grades. Logic dictates, I don't know, maybe start the guy over the egg-based filler currently at RT? I don't want to hear that the O-line was vanilla and not showing any of Tice's 37 fkn protection schemes ... that's bullshit! You let your franchise QB get pounded just to protect your top-secret NASA blocking schemes?! Bull. Shit. Our 'best' linemen (using the broadest meaning of the word) are sitting on the bench and salaries are dictating starting roles. And what the hell happened to Chris Williams. Answers on a postcard please. Oh, and get that guy that tapped his sister, at least we know he's got balls ...

    Sorry, but our receivers suck. I've been singing from that hymn sheet forever. Knox goes down and .. well ... he should be the guy who's going *in* - he's no NFL starting receiver and cost us one interception yesterday. I haven't bought that ticket. He's a kick returner who can run a fly route. That's it. He's impressed only in snatches - anyone can do that, this is the NFL, it's full of kids with talent, we know that. He lacks lower body strength and doesn't know the routes or his playbook. Ditto Hester and everybody else. How Brandon Marshall was not reunited with the guy that was throwing him over 100 receptions a year is beyond me and beggars belief. An uncapped year, a billion dollar organization, and you can't sign the one player who puts your offense a couple of linemen short of having the best offense in the league? You get a chance to cover that mistake short term by signing T.O. and you can't find the minimum to pay the guy? Our jerk-off receivers are such gold dust that we can't find one to cut? F**k that.

    Defense: Angelo has been forever whiffing on safeties - we draft a new one every year and Lovie has to play musical safeties with the crap he's given. Angelo incredibly trades Chris Harris away and then trades back for him by giving away an excellent young linebacker with twice the talent! Give me a fkn break!

    Anyone missing Vasher yet ? We will be, we already are. Jamar too. And when Tillman goes down, we will be officially and properly copulated my friends. Nothing but smurfettes in reserve to boot. And it worries me even more when Angelo is quoted as saying D.J. Moore will make a good slot receiver. WTF ? Excuse me? Wasn't he drafted to be a defensive back? Shouldn't you be saying he'll be a good corner, Jerry? Can't you draft a receiver to be a receiver? Isn't that the way normal people do it? Briggs went down yesterday and in goes a special teamer. It should have been wrecking crew Williams. And for all the crap Urlacher takes from his fans and the media - look what happens when he's not in there. Disaster. Say what you want, but he's got Ray Lewis' numbers in a shorter period of time. Argue with that. He's just had a year to recuperate a very banged up body. Let's give him at least the Detroit game before we bury the guy. And Izzy's sack yesterday had Tommie Harris written all over it. Let's give him a game or two before we bury one of the best defensive tackles in the league.

    Izzy, Butters and Pep will save our skins on the line, for as long as they last. Pep has to at the end of the day, because signing him took all of that money that could have filled up the other gaps on the team. In a sense he can't possibly live up to what he's cost us, not even if he had a career year. But that's not his fault ...

    That's the fault of a guy who should be nowhere near decision making processes at any level. Jerry Ducheyne Angelo. Bring me his cabbage head on a platter. I want to eat it, digest it, and expel him as the rotten gas he is.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    Watching the Game rerun on nfl network.... and I dont like what i see from the offense.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    queens will implode hopefully vegas, the packers are going to bust some ass this year and go to the playoffs, or better. We might totally fucking shock everyone and be ok this year, but they don't need surprises, it's pretty evident that they are good this year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Packers will be good, If our offense clicks together then we can make a run. We got good players but to many mistakes.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81a17f8d/Cardinals-vs-Bears-highlights

    Here are the lowlights... that;s the difference between a good team and a mediocre to bad team Fresno, good teams don't constantly make mistakes when they can't afford to. Yeah, we have great plays, shortly followed up by terrible ones. The bend and don't breaks doesn't work when you bend all game and end up with what... a break where it counts in the W/L column.

    Too many mistakes, too many injuries, too many old/slow/not good any more players and coaching leftovers. The 2010 Bears. Again, we deserve more than, "I hope Martz and lovie are just holding back and they all shock us in the regular season. Really? Fucken a man.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    that problem is... as I just posted above, it only takes one weak link, one break down from one key guy every down Jeff.

    Peppers and tommy may bring the noise every single play... they sure did last night, but when C.Harris and bowman get schooled on that play and fucking D.Anderson or fucking M. Lienart get the ball off, we saw what happens.

    Every single guy has to do his job on every single play. Watch the lowlights I just posted above. Even when we were a millisecond away from a sack a few times last night, we allowed terrible QBs to look like tom brady.

    As I've been saying all along. We simply did NOT fix the two biggest problem areas we had last year. We shifted bad players around, drafted late, and didn't focus on our biggest problems.

    Bottom line, we're not good enough where it counts to win week in week out... and we certainly don't have the depth... as we've already seen.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    the

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Lovie is angling for a spot on the Lions coaching staff.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If you expect the Bears to be great at defending the pass, you need to rethink things. This scheme can only be so successful against the pass. It's unfortunate but it's the thing. I am just wrapping up rewatching last night and I get damned excited about what this offense can do. I love the Chester Taylor addition.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Jeff. I hope you are right.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I'm not buying that Jeff. In 2006 both teams int he Superbowl were basically Cover 2 teams. Our problem was that Chris Harris and Danieal Manning were the safeties and Tommie wasn't on the line. Worked pretty good when Mike Brown *and* Tommie was in there. Can't blame schemes, only the players that don't execute them.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    And Chester Taylor will be getting hit in the face as soon as he gets the hand-off with this line.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    People need to read Trac's post again and then read the Forbes article. The preseason is peanuts compared to the bigger problem we have with this team. Stop being blinded by the ways of ownership. I think our loyalty is hurting us. If this season starts out negative, fans need to stop going to the game. Yelling online won't do diddlypo. But hitting their wallet will.

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    I like the game. I'm not going to stop going.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Fair enough. And as long as current ownership remains in place, we will take the title from Cleveland as the mistake by the lake.

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    Cleveland are better than us. Seriously. They have two good lines and a couple of good backs. Better management. Right now Detroit are better than us too. They have a wrecking ball on the D-line, a gazillion first round picks on the roster, solid backs, really good o-line that allows them to run at will, improving, smart QB, actual NFL receivers.

    Week one is going to spell out our season for us.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    BEARS COVERAGE=GARBAGE

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Watching it this afternoon, the O looked fine in pass protection (and the screens worked great); it was big miscues on crap like the reverse and Wildcat for Hester that were momentum killers. As long as Martz doesn't get overly cute in game one, I think we'll hang 30 on the Kittens.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I really think a lot of things that didn't work are things they are testing.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry, but I got to repost what I wrote what I was looking for b4 Card's game:

    Hey, I was at the SD game this preseason too too Fresno. Man there were a lot of Bear's fans there - who left disappointed...Anyhow, things I'm looking for:

    1) Consistency (in a good way). Who r the starting Safeties again? Manning, oh no, Wright, Oh no, Chris Harris - now flip them, and then flip them again... Is that really gonna be our O-line? They're good in pass protection, then not the run. Now, they're good at the run, but not pass protection. Williams shuts down Allen last year, then gives up monster sacks to a no name in the preseason... What's our starting D-line? Anderson can't play the run, Adams can't pass rush - Toeina is a beast, oh, maybe not...Our Nickle Cbs? Everyone who can play is "too small", and everyone who is big enough, can't play, unless you move Manning to Nickle...again... Too many questions so late in the pre-season. The FudgePackers aren't entertaining these questions.

    And here are my draft picks for next year (The same as I wanted for this year):

    1)T (if Williams or Shaffer suck)
    2)LG
    3)C
    4)RG

    Trade 5-7 (we don't own a 7th thanks to the HB on the IR, but we can trade a player for value) to get another 3rd rounder and use it for either:

    A DT (IF Harris under performs again)
    Or a S (If the other Harris under performs)
    Or a CB or WR (If all those projects don't pan out)

    We have a collection of "redshirts" and "projects" that can fill out the rest of our roster.

    Needless to say, this all depends on Free Agency, but when was the last time a great O-line man hit the market? Alan Fenaca is as good as it gets, and we didn't sign him, so we must build the O-line through the draft NOW!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I was behind the bears bench. yea lot of bear fans. I had a blast.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    No receivers in the draft '85Bearz ? If I see D.J. Moore on the roster next year as a 4'0 receiver next year I will puke acid ...

    I believe we'll coach up Asiata and Louis. That's two. I say draft a tackle, but here's the thing. We need to draft a safety too - and that's got to be done with the first rounder - no more projects or 'might be good's. Draft a blue-chip safety instead of drafting a piece of crap every year in the lower rounds. Seeing as we haven't got the balls to trade for NFL caliber receivers we need to draft one, that means second or third round too. We can't afford to draft our o-line in a single year. Too many gaps elsewhere - that was Angelo's job all along ... draft your o-line slowly and surely. And guess what ...?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Please keep in mind that during preseason games, at least with this team, coaches will purposefully put a player in a difficult position just to see how they handle it. There is no scheming. The coaches are not looking at the score.

    I'm not saying this team is going to be great, or even good, but I'm saving my bile for the Detroit game.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Omiyale sucks!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    First, "If you expect the Bears to be great at defending the pass, you need to rethink things. This scheme can only be so successful against the pass."

    Wow, yes I do. Shouldn't we all expect and demand that? Shouldn't Lovie? We're not supposed to expect our secondary to be able to successfully defend the pass? I bet if we had a real FS a real SS and a couple better/young corners we'd be able to defend the pass a helluvalot better than we do. I don

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB - I'd love our pass defense to work. But it hasn't in years and I'm not insane. We need to score points and hold opponents under 24.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Ok Jeff, I can live with that sentiment... but have you seen anything from our O, except a few lucky/risky long ball circus catches, that have made you feel comfortable we'll put up the kind of numbers our O will need to cover (see how I did that?) for the gaps in our d?

    I certainly haven't.... well, I saw Rodgers and co. do it, but that doesn't help us much.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    But that's because we had no pass rush and no safeties, nothing to do with the Cover 2. Put on a pass rush, put in an athletic MLB and have a couple of safeties who understand the game of football and the Cover 2 works as well as anything. However, put in Hunter Hillenmeyer, a crocked Tommie and any selection of D-linemen and safeties we've had to endure recently and it can never work. It's like putting flat tires on a Ferrari.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Haynesworth is not holding out. I don't know what the hell he's doing but it's not going to work with Shanny in DC. I'd love to put him in the middle of a bonafide 4-3.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jesus H Christopher 85B4E... I think at this point we have what we have -if you want to try to lure a high priced malcontent, my vote would be for either McNeil or VJack from the chargers. Unfortunately, McNeil and Haynesworth are on the ups with their respective GMS (hanny is supposedly having dinner at the tranny's house), and VJack just gave a big fuck you to everyone.

    I'm personally of the mind that Mr. Cowher's picks are off limits to that buffoon Angelo anyway, but I foolishly believe in those little things called common sense and logic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This team still needs a bona fide #1 for Jay Cutler to reach his full potential. Jerry Angelo realized that when he tried to pick up Anquan Boldin during last year's draft.

    I'm not saying I don't think the current WR corps can do a decent job, but in order to do well you're asking a lot more of Jay Cutler in terms of timing and accuracy. The problem is in order for him to be more accurate for the WRs, Jay is going to need an extra half-second of pass protection at times - something which sounds unlikely at this current place in time.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I'll say it for you then Shady my friend ...I don't think the current WR corps can do a decent job. There. Shabba's quality, then again he was coached up by the Colts, he would be. I'd ditch the rest, seriously. Maybe Cutler could make them a lot better if we gave him longer than 0.7 seconds to find one open, he can't make them taller though ...

    I'd like to know why he's not calling more quick slants like Rivers does though. There's more chance of me getting into Jessica Alba's smalls than there is of Rivers getting sacked.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Mark my words. Chester Taylor will lead the Bears in receiving yards.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Then why do we have receivers?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Duly marked.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    if that's the case, then this team is doomed....

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I'd be happy to make a wager that Knox leads the Bears in recieving yards.

  • In reply to Crowned:

    I'll bet you Jerry Angelo's nuts and his head that it's one of the defensive linemen ...

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Although the offensive line has to tighten up Jay Cutler does not look like an NFL starting quarterback. The difference between an NFL first string quarterback is his ability to make the best decision with the football especially when under pressure. Jay Cutler is an interception machine due to the fact he cannot make the best decision with the football in his hands when under the slight bit of pressure. Tom Brady is cool in the pocket even when under pressure. Jay Cutler looks like a deer in the head lights even when he has blocking. The Denver Broncos duked the Bears into giving them a 2009 1st round pick, a 2010 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick, and Cal Orton to take on Jay Cutler huge salary. Jay Cutler is clearly not a starting quarter back in the NFL. Lovie Smith is a great football coach and because the Bears have a brainless clown in GM Angelo and an ancient lady owner who trusts everything Mr. Don't know anything about football Angelo says Lovie Smith looks bad. Lovie Smith's coaching career has been destroyed by two 3rd string quarter backs namely Rex Grossman and Jay Cutler that were forced on him to let them start by the Bear's front office. QB Cal Orton went 8-8 with Denver in 2009 and the Bears went 7-9 with Cutler at QB with 26 interceptions. All 26 of those interceptions were not the fault of the offensive line. Chicago gave up two first round picks, one 3rd round pick,and Cal Orton for The Interception King Machine Cutler. The Bears should have kept Orton and used those two 1st round picks and that 3rd round pick to draft offensive line men for Orton and Hanie to throw behind and the running backs to run behind and the Bears would have be far better off. The Bears are not better with Jay Cutler at quarter back. Rookie Dan LeFevour looked better than Cutler did against the Cardinals and LeFevour was playing behind the 2nd and 3rd string offensive line. Cutler is a bust the Bears need to cut Jay Cutler right now and keep Colins, Hanie,and LeFevour for our QB's

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Those who have been here awhile know how I operate. I don't overreact, specifically to anything not happening in actual games that count. But I am never a cheerleader and never optimistic for the sake of being optimistic.

    You have to approach things with a balance. Who gives a shit if we're good in the preseason? I want to be good in December.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Your right, but if you can't play in a game that doesn't count, how do you play when it does count?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Fair enough Jeff. I will shut it down until the regular season. I hope you have crow for me to eat!

    On a side note, Steelers receivers should wear vaginas on their jerserys. Big Ben would hit it every time.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    O.K. have had the chance to see the replay of the first half..taking deep Lamaze breathe's here..

    1. first play of the off.. DH and JK looking at each other like "Who's on first"? bad click'

    2. second play of that series Williams is owned and gets bitch slapped!

    3. Actually love the stretch by Shodu..

    4. next in that series picked off and Williams guys again owns Williams and it his guy that gets in JC's face..

    5.punt

    6. first play def.. 9 yard run over HH beaten like a rag doll..question is can BU do any better at this age? I don't know?

    7. 3rd string running back Jason Wright owns our D... All of them his rugby technique move forward and 11 to one and Wright wins the fight and almost gets the first down. OMG someone hit someone and not your own teammate and grow a pair PLEASE!!!!!

    8.Golden Thor cannot figure out where he supposed to be and JC has to call a timeout. nice job you BI@!%$#!@$CH!

    D grade C- secondary is again the concern..hey wait is that not what this blog has been saying since last season? Need a FS yeah that's right we are still in the experiment phase.

    O grade D-wow, I don't know where to start...Where are the two guards I have been asking for..oh yeah "we are all set". CW looks like he's back in his rookie year, total confusion on line, receivers..... crikey!

    MM you better have a little more to bring to the table..problem maybe that our gladiators are "cornfused" between all the silverware on the table. duh$#!@$#!@%$!@$%

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Lobo, as disappointed as I am with our teams progress, I'm now more excited at the prospect of a lockout season next year.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    per PFT:

    "Of particular concern is (or at least should be) the play of quarterback Tony Romo. He has generated a sluggish passer rating of 64.3 in four preseason games. On Saturday night, he took two sacks, threw an interception, and fumbled twice.

    As Tim MacMahon of ESPNDallas.com points out, the starters played a full half against the Chargers and the Texans. In both games combined, the Cowboys gained 145 yards -- and they gave up 434."

    after reading this, gonna calm down on the Bears. like Al said: the 'Boys have the most pressure in the NFL than of any other team. hell we just went down to getting 3rd place in the NFC North (by the media's expectations). everybody just take a deep breath, get some head from your wife/girlfriend/random chick, and get pumped for some FOOSBALL!!!!!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/29/sluggish-cowboys-starters-could-play-in-preseason-finale/

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Don't worry gents, here's a great video of our team when they are actually in sync at practice.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLtR8_qw_yM&feature=related

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    trac...how did you get a inside look of a bears management meeting?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Easy lobo, I just followed the yellow brick road.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Simple Lobo. Whilst wearing a surgical mask and gloves, just use a surgical scalpel and lance the turd vertically from north to south. Beware of the maggots though, as this team has been together for many years, and the infestation has been spreading throughout.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Exactly. Cowboy's are a lot of pundit's SB pick this season. They look like dogshit. Now, that is.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Looks like you can add a couple of Tackles to your list, Lobo.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    more fodder:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0829-pompei-bears-chicago--20100828,0,5209308.column

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    BLOW IT UP!!!
    http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=404331&src=148

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Well, along those lines, I'm not pessimistic just for the sake of being pessimistic.

    7 for 15 against Oakland and now 10 for 20 with 2 picks on bad throws are good reasons for pessimism.

    How pessimistic was I? Because they were playing the Cardinals, I COULD have watched the game LIVE here in Tucson. Instead, I taped the game and took my wife out to dinner. I obviously made the right choice.

    Am I laying all these offensive issues at Jay's (now seemingly "happy") feet? Absolutely not.

    However, it does seem to me that Cutler looks like a guy now afraid to SET his feet because he doesn't (with good reason) trust the 5 guys in front of him. Even HIS arm can not overcome consistantly bad mechanics which there seemed to be a LOT of on display last night.

    I don't think "Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"
    is an unfair description of what we've seen, especially from the offensive line, to date.

    Plus, it doesn't matter how good the offense turns out to be, if the defense can't get off the field on 3rd and double-digits to go we're looking at a complete melt-down of a season.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    AL...nice.."Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic"............hhhhheeeeeeeehhhhhheeeee

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I don't blame Cutler for shitting the bed. Who wouldn't when you have men that big repeatedly planting you. His career is a split second from being over. He can't even trust his first round blind side man now. I want to see Peyton Manning, Brees, Brady in there behind that line with those receivers and throw HOF numbers. Cutler has *already* been to the pro bowl ....

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    You're a good sport Jeff. Nothing like jumping in a cage with a bunch of abused hungry Bears at a Russian Circus.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    trac..like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1GdZI1oPEE

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Rolling lobo, haven't had a laugh like that in a good time. Exactly like that.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    One other item of note. Did anyone else notice Shabby get stuffed near the goal line. I like Shabby as much of the next guy but it really would be nice to have a big strong WR that would have been able to push through that tackler and take it to the house.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    And he's our biggest strongest WR. Go figure.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Like I said...I'll start to get excited after the 9th win.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Coming from the guy who has never picked against the Bears in 4 years. "Why do I like the Bears? I always like the Bears."

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Agreed. And amazingly the Chargers are recently 14-0 in December/January I saw as one of the graphics they threw up during the game. Winning at the business end of the regular season. Impressive.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Just like Olsen was the key to our success?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    That's the problem Jeff.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No cash MB. That's the one thing I noticed from all these players passing us by in free agency. Clearly Ginnie/Philips said - you clowns have 140 million to do with as you please, and then that's it. Now we're hearing Philips saying there is no 'or else' clause on the clowns this year....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    There have been some "Jay" moments that make me shake my head but the offensive line is a dramatic improvement over the first 12 games of last year...and we haven't really seen Manu-beast-aluma yet. The pass-blocking was generally solid, and occasionally great, against the Cardinals in the first half. And the run-blocking has overall looked much improved as the guards have started to acclimate to their new positions. If you factor in that Cheeto is a grade 1 backup RB as opposed to all-heart, no-game AP#2, and Forte is obviously much healthier than last year, we've vastly improved the capabilities in the rushing game. I think on the defensive side of the ball, the front four looks far better at generating a pass rush than they did last year (for a very expensive reason). I'm going to look back at some key plays tonight, but it seemed like we got burned (again) on corner blitzes. If Pep and Tommie are breaking down the pocket w/o a blitz, we're going to look better. I chalk some of the poor coverage to experimentation with different blitz packages. And of course, Lach is still out and the pass D didn't really start falling apart until Briggs came out with his tweaked ankle. If we're missing 2 of 3 starting LBs again in the regular season, I think we'll look bad against TEs again - it's just the way it breaks. Hopefully we stay healthy. It shit all over our season last year to have Pisa and Lach go down so early, but then again losing MB first game of 2007 did us no favors either.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    To get to your point about the sacks, week 2 skews the results for Jay pretty badly. I guess I would go with CW having an off night versus him being that bad. He certainly looked much better than that to end last year at LT, and against the Cardinals. At least one of the sacks against AZ was the result of Olin stepping on his foot, and the second was Jay being too fucking stubborn to throw the ball away outside of the pocket. Game 2 was a really bad game for CW and if it's not the exception, we ARE screwed. Week 1 accounted for 6 sacks, or as I like to call it, Disco Dan LeFevour Night...only one was on Jay, but hey, he was only in for one series.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Jeff - what is the name of your NY watering hole? I just found out I'm going to be in Manhattan in two weeks, in time for Detroit.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Josie Woods Pub.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    If I make it there, I'll buy you a beer.
    My job has a way of making Sundays a real pisser.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This may sound crazy, but desperate times call for desperate measures...but would anyone else, besides me, trade a 3rd rounder (and maybe our DT Adams who would fit a 3-4 better) for Haynesworth?

    Everyone is shit talking for him "holding out", but I remember the same media frenzy for Briggs, and he turned out ok.

    I just don't trust Tommie Harris to stay healthy or be productive, and it'd be nice to have an (cheap) insurance plan. Haynesworth thrives in the 4-3, and maybe with the line up of Peppers, Haynesworth, Harris, and Wooten (yes, Wooton, not Anderson) we can finally get pressure for those 3rd and longs, get the D off the field to rest, and give the special teams and anemic O more chances to score...

    What do you guys think? Haynesworth, anyone?

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    To bad we can't trade coaches.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    No way in hell anyone would give up Haynesworth for that.. just a 3 rounder and a player? That is high hopes. Just like our 11-5 season.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    HAYNESWORTH? aww fuck that

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    HELL NO!

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    Guys guys - Haynesworth didn't just quit on Tranny and the Skins. He quit on the entire NFL. His contract had guaranteed money up front, and he got paid, and now he has checked out to the tune of $30M+

    Even if by some contract miracle he comes here, he quits on us as well.

    We'd be better off looking for VJack or somebody who can get open quickly. Very very quickly.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Plus one GPL.

    DUIs or not, the dude is six foot five and a baller. We're not going to find too many angels. It's the NFL. I don't want a team full of Greg Charity Olsens who make good press, I want Mongos throwing chairs at walls and making them stick.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    i saw how you did that GP

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    In practice, Cutler typically lets the ball fly blindly -- trusting in Martz

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    My buttocks clenched as soon as I first realised what system this guy had in place for us Artoo.

    * Seven step drops ? With our crappy line? Oh dear.

    * Timing patterns that require smart NFL receivers to adjust quickly on the fly depending on the looks presented ? Oh dear.

    * A playbook twice the size of Wrong Turner's, when our intelligence-lite receivers were having problems with *that* one? Oh dear.

    * It takes two years on average to install the offense? I hope you're still around to next year Mike. I'd like to see it when everything's working, I really would.

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    because he doesn't trust his receivers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Exactly. And round the houses we go ...

  • In reply to KissMyButkus:
  • In reply to KissMyButkus:

    I'm not laughing at that. The man just needs to be conditioned properly and slapped upside the head. I watch 3-man lines like GB and Cleveland's collapse pockets all the time. I don't get how Haynesworth is cheap though ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It would be a total shock if that line blocks anything other than sunshine before week eleven.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    Julius Peppers is a BEAST! im so happy we got him..

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Wait until you see Chris Harris gaff twice.

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Do people think the Bears got worse? Because adding Peppers and Harris makes them better. If they don't allow 40 to good passing teams, they'll be improved.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Maybe Lovie's goal this pre-season was to lower everyone's expectations.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Thank you Jeff, this is what I'm saying, How did we get worse compared to last year after obtaining Peppers, Taylor, and re-obtaining Lach? What the hell am I missing? Someone please explain what made us so much worse?

  • I sure hope you're right Jeff cause Matt Stafford and Calvin Johnson are gellin' like magellan, and our defense looks like minced dog shit. This excrement of cattle will continue into the reg. season, happened last year and this year looks no different.

    ding..ding..ding.. I'm ringing the doomsday bell

  • And how did the Super Bowl turn out for us in 2006? Another point that frustrates me. Lovie supporters hanging their hats on that. That was a classic example of another reason Lovie must go. He fails to make adjustments. Tony Dungee admitted he changed up his defensive scheme prior to the Super Bowl. Lovie in love with a flawed pillow coverage did not. And we know the rest of the story.

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    Knowledgeable NFL people know that Lovie basically inherited the Dick Jauron built defense for the Super Bowl. Since his picks have come into prime years, it's all gone to shit. He let the team atrophy. Child Support should have been run outta town the year he wanted his big money, he's been a lay down ever since. Lack is the white Albert Haynesworth, there I said it. We paid him, he folded his tent and waited until he could retire.

    Running Chris Harris outta town and then getting him back as a broken down warhorse, that is Lovie Smith in a clamshell right there.

    I don't know if I even want to watch the Lions smashmouth us in Soldier Field in two weeks, I don't know if I can stand to watch it.

    I revise my prediction last thread. This is a 2-14 team guys, an absolute disaster season that I'm not Lovie makes it to the end with. I see Martz coaching at Ginnys request after we go 0-6 to start.

    We may as well change our uniforms to creamsicle orange, because we're the 1976 Bucs this year, and Lovie just needs one of those floppy hats and Lovie can be John McCay.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    LOL.. at least John McCay got pissed during pressers. Lovie also inherited Dick and Wannys attitude during pressers. Plus Lovie started what year? Had plenty of time to make change.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Smith has become Wanny Part II.

    Child Support has become Brian Cox
    As Wanny let Mongo and Dent go after his first year, so did Lovie send Mike Brown packing a year early.
    Hester has become Curtis Conway.
    Our failure to go get Marshall was like letting Jeff Graham go to use the money to pay Spellman. Alonzo has become Peppers!

    It's all happening again. Kramer broke his neck, if I were Cutty I would make sure my will was reviewed by a sane lawyer.

    Oh, and La Favor is Rick Mirer in this hellish play.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jeff, I was planning on sitting on the sidelines today but you stole the words right outta my mouth. 06 preseason, here in S.F., the day I got hired at the job I currently hold, I met my bro and his wife downtown. We drove to candlestick(monster park), sat in the corner of the endzone, and my expections were sky-fucking high.

    Long story short, I took the loser's walk outta that place hearing S.F. fans sarcastically say "DA BEARS", and laugh at me and my old Bears cap. Our offense was lifeless in that game, and our defense had no answer for fucking Antonio Bryant. 28-14 they beat us.

    Fast forward to week 8 that year and we kicked the living shit out of them. I laughed my ass off, to think I was worried about them(my Bears) in preseason. That was an excellent season.

    To answer your question, Vegas, losing in the superbowl would be a big fucking improvement over were we've been the last three years, and I'd love to take that ride through the playoffs again anytime.

    Point is that while I'm not gonna sit here and predict another sb appearance, I'm also not buying all the '5 and 11' talk thats been all the rage on this blog the last 18 hours or so. Fuck preseason.

    I agree we don't have the finest coaches or schemes, or a Roster full of pro-bowlers and hof'rs. And I also agree much more could've been done the last several offseasons to remedy all that.

    But none of you can sit here and tell me that by gaining Peppers, getting Urlacher back, and adding Taylor we are worse than the 7-9 team we fielded last year.

    Sorry for the book I've written but my point is that we are a .500 team at worst. Is that good enough for me? No. Will that trigger an over-haul? Hopefully(probably wouldn't, tho.). But if we can just squeeze out 2 or 3 more games, we are in the tournament.

    Would we get to the playoffs the way we've performed in preseason? Hell no. But 4-12? 5-11? Come on guys, lets wait for the real games.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    Ben, I'm gonna sit here and tell you we are worse than 7-9. The Urlacher you refer too aint the Urlacher he was.Since the last big contract he signed, he is a shell of what he was. Taylor? Walter Payton or Emmitt Smith can't run behind a line that's not blocking. Peppers? If we start losing, he will become bored and take off more plays than he has in the past. If you notice this pre season, it ain't like he's in high gear every play. I hope I'm wrong and you're right, but I think with this team a 7-9 record would be outstanding.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I hope so too, Murph, but you missed my point.

    I'm comparing directly to last year's 7-9.

    Lach may not be the Lach of old but he is clearly an upgrade over a smaller yet reliable Hunter. He can still cover more ground than Hillenmeyer and, barring further injury, improves us over last year at the position.

    Last years rush behind a variation of current (and I agree, crappy-ish) o-line included a Matt Forte that came off a season where he touched the ball way too much and with no one else behind him.

    Forte alone will be better this year than last simply on the fact that he is fresher. While having Taylor in addition doesn't gaurantee playoffs, it definately improves our rush. And as crappy as our line is/was Forte still almost broke 1000 yds behind it last year.

    Peppers is the best end we've had in a long time, to say he doesn't improve our rushmen in addition to a Tommie Harris that hasn't seen a scalpel in 2+ years is probably wrong.

    Murph, I am talkin out my ass but I don't care what anyone else here thinks when it comes to preseason.
    And I'll gladly be the first to eat crow in about a month and a half if we suck.

    Amen. Good nite. Again. In your prayers, remember da bears.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    2006? It was Lovie's third year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Listen, I'm not saying the Bears are going to be 12-4 and win it all. I'm just saying that it seems every year people take the preseason more and more seriously and every year it means less and less. You think Julius Peppers gives a shit about these games?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Really though Jeff?

    You can say that, but when you see the lack of skill it's frightening. It's not that people are screwing up schemes and snap counts and having a shitload of penalties (although there is some of that too)... it's that these guys are getting beaten plainly and simply. They just aren't better football players than their opposition. THAT is what scares me most. We're smaller, slower, and less skilled than that guys we've played.

    And yes, I think every player wants to make a statement... especially a new guy. I have to believe that these guys have professional pride, especially since peppers has something to prove about his work ethic.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Jeff, you are 100% correct. They do not matter... in terms of standings and if we are the Indianapolis Colts. If they don't matter then why even play? Let's just play the 2nd and 3rd teamers. Last preseason... not terrible but not great. We come out and beat Indy.. that game counted and the talk was look out, playoffs here we come. (I was one of those doubters before that Indy win) How did the season turn out? Peppers may not care but at least he is honest we have work to do and the clock is running out. Unlike Lovie who still thinks we have more time to get better. So what's the point of training camp, OTA. I used this analogy today. It's like baking a cake.. you don't just turn the oven on and put it in short an egg or cup of flour. We know the starters will not see much action in the final preseason game. So we are left to go with what? The light will turn on? I think this team is also taking Detroit for granted. I truly hope we start 1-0 and you can say I told you so. Right now, this team is giving me no hope that will happen.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I never said 12-4 or even >.500, I just think all this 5-11 talk is a bit premature considering a real down of ball is yet to be played. The sky isn't falling.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    Sounds like Lovieism

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    In the Beginning, George Halas created the Chicago Bears.
    Halas hired Mike Ditka and it was very good.
    Not long after the goodness, the wicked McCaskeys rejected Ditka and the team was cast into utter darkness.
    After wandering in the wilderness for a very long time, a false prophet with a lying tongue weaseled his way into Halas Hall. His name was Jerry. Jerry promised to give the people all the things that Mr. Halas had given them and the people were deceived into believing him, and they were happy. When the people found out they had been lied to, their hearts waxed angry. Jerry seeing this, became afraid so he sent for his servant Lovie and together they sold their draft picks for a strong armed quarterback and the people were happy again. The next year the Bears sucked and the people grew angry again. Jerry, seeing this, became very afraid, so he sent for his servant Lovie and together they signed the best 3 free agents available on the market for three times what they were worth, and the people were happy again.

    Then the preseason arrived and the Bears sucked again and the people's hearts waxed angry again.

    To be continued.........

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac... spot on

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    You missed the part about Halas hiring Jim Finks, so that he could draft everyone that made Ditka look like he had a clue. And the part about when Halas hired Ditka, Finks quit and the Bears have been clueless ever since. Oh, and the part about how Finks when to New Orleans, turned straw to gold, and then died. And the part about how Ditka went down to New Orleans, bankrupted the future on Ricky Williams (no doubt looking for the next Walter, Finks not having left him one this time), and once again trashing what should have been a great legacy.

    I really cannot stand all TOTALLY UNDESERVED adulation for Ditka. Had he been a coach worth shit, they would have won three or four Super Bowls. Instead, he gives us DOUG FUCKING FLUTIE in the playoffs. What a douchbag.

    There, I fucking said it, and I stand behind every word. The most overrated coach in the history of Chicago sports is Mike Ditka.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Murmur, murmur, murmur.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Doc, depth is how far you sink without a life jacket and a 50lb dumb bell (Lovie) tied around your neck.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Glad Jeff is here to talk us off the ledge a bit. I'm still somewhat optimistic about the offense...as for the defense, not so much. Just seems like we are seeing the same old shit. But who knows, preseason is preseason. I hope the Bears prove us all wrong.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Jeff is the guy at the Circus we all remember as kids. Step right up, hurry, hurry, hurry........

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6L0sQNNsk4

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ha! Trac, you and I are SO on the same page man... I was going to use the circus ringmaster analogy earlier for that exact explanation, but I didn't want to offend. We're all in a very delicate state as bears fans right now after all.

    Honestly, it's Jeff's "job" as the owner of this blog to keep things lively. I don't think anyone can look at this team and honestly believe that we can win more than 6-7 games MAX this year. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

    Oh, and orton just threw an INT.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Not sure who is really on the ledge here... optimist prime fans or negative skeletors?

    With that being said, let me try another attempt at why preseason should matter. Let me present exhibit C. The Cincinnati Reds. They currently lead the league in runners going from first to third. A method stressed, practiced during spring training and to this day still talked about. They did just not decide to try in during the regular season. Granted they've not won anything yet but they lead their division by 5 games when no one gave them a chance. I get baseball is a longer season and not the same sport. That is not my point. The point is preseason is to work on things for the regular season. Tackle, catch the ball, routes and the likes. We know the 4th game will not have our starters playing much. That is what pisses me off more about what Lovie said. We have time. Really? I could care less if we went 0-4 but show some signs of improvement from week to week. The Bears have not done that.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    yes -- with Martz' new offense Cutler doesn't quite trust his receivers. At least this won't be a dull season.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Blasphemer!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I was going to post all of the positive and negative things that i took from the game but after reading about how the fans are fucking booing again i have decided to make a statement instead:

    If you boo your own team you are a fag. Dads that boo their own teams yield douche bag faggot kids. Why do you bother going to the game if you are such a fag that you will boo your own team when they need encouragement. What's the point of a fucking home game if the fans are such homo's that they boo? What the fuck is going on here? i am fucking pissed and disappointed. Anyone that has ever booed their own team is not a fan. Not even fucking once. that's why i won't ever go to a fucking game ever again. go back and read a post after last year's Cleveland game when i was livid for the fans booing after we gained 4.5 yards on an off tackle play. fucking pussy motherfucking faggots.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    100% johnny... now, tell me about the game. Thoughts? I need more of the other perspective. you and FQ and Ben, and MBP... tell me what I am missing man. Preach it...

    Oh, and I have a joke for you all that goes with my last joke (Why does Snoop carry an umbrella?)... what's brown and rhymes with Snoop?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dr dre! Hahaha

    MB, I still don't see what I'm missing in terms of how we got worse than last year. We did suck last year but things really started to gel in those last few contests.

    I'll have that vikes game on my dvr for some time, loved it especially since I watched with my best friend in AZ where we grew up together, he's a die-hard vikes fan.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Mostly agree. I'm not a big Rex apologist but the fans and media were way overboard. Booing the shit out of guy in practice? Way over the top. Rex sucked balls but that's just wrong. I'm OK with booing if the effort isn't there. If someone is just going through the motions they deserve what ever they get. If the guy is a giant tool like the Cadester, he deserves what he gets. If the guys are trying their best and they just bite the big one, oh well, it's not our year. I just wish the players could go into the stands and bitch slap some of the drunken loudmouths. If you had to take responsibility for your actions most of those chickenshit motherfuckers wouldn't say a fucking word.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Just a quick follow up to my last point. Have you ever seen the clip of the drunken fan screaming and yelling at Tie Domi in the penalty box? The douchebag is acting all tough and beating on the glass and when he leans over too far, he falls into the box with Domi. The drunken asshole has a litter of kittens right on the spot. Priceless!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Amen, Johnny, fucking fags they are. Sickens me to always hear of such things.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I like the simplicity of that Johnny. If you boo your own team you are a fag. That should be one of the ten commandments. Did they want to see Cutler get hammered again? In a pre-season game too ...

    Now if everyone was to get their hands on a picture of Jerry Angelo, hold them up on bad plays or at relevant shitty moments and booed ... that would be okay. Don't boo the players, boo the fool that put them out there.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    The team that Finks built. Spot on. Every good play the Bears had on offense was a Jim McMahon special.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Appreciate the view points by those who feel we are not doomed. I truly hope you are right and I am wrong. With this team I have to go with history and that it's not been kind to us over the years. Unless you are Indy as David said in his piece, you need to be seeing what the team is doing. We are not a team that can just turn it on. Yes I like Peppers but we know have broke down Harris an Urlacher who as others have said is not the same. The one thing that has not been mentioned is Jay Cutler. I lived in Denver when he played there and when things went south, so did Jay's attitude. Should this team get off to a slow start or things not go right in a game.. be afraid. So goes Jay, so goes this team.

  • In reply to bearsvegas:

    Saying this year's awful pre-season effort is similiar to the 85' Bears terrible pre-season is wrong! In the years before 85 ths Bears struggled to win, but they were tough physical teams. In the 3 years before this pre-season the Bears have displayed absolutely NO toughness. So seeing the weak-ass efforts of the past 3 games confirms this team still has no freakin heart! Bear Down! (and hope)

  • by the way doc... WE ARE FUCKED!!!!!!!! nice

  • i'll prove my own point next week. the first bad play the booing fucking starts. i remember what it was like the first moment something bad happened with Rex the fucking stadium erupts. you will see the effect this poison has on the team. With all due respect Doc, you are the one that couldn't be more wrong.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    IDK waffle, maybe you should lay off the squirrel booze for a while.

  • In reply to Shady:

    hee hee, i told my wife about it and she said that i can buy it after i pay off the 2nd mortgage

  • I watched the replay today. It's the 1st game I've seen this year. Cutler was off and the O was out of sync. The 2 missed FG's were killers. Momentum killers and field position killers. Their avg start was around their 40 ours was around the 15. That's going to cost you again and again. Instead of getting 3 pts each time and the Cards starting on their 20-25 we got zip and they started on the 30 and the 38. Big difference.

    Cutler threw about a half dozen passes that were off the mark. Hester dropped a bomb that went off his hands (it would have been a good catch but one that any NFL WR should make) and Knox dropped one right on the money. Olsen is invisible. The OL was OK but still gave up some sacks. One sack Cutler just fell down and another he ran into the pressure. Overall I'd give the O a D last night.

    The D looked pretty good most of the time except for that 3rd down bugaboo again. If they don't get a handle on that we're totally screwed. C. Harris is even worse than when we sent him packing the last time. He was always taking bad angles before. That hasn't changed and he has lost some speed. He wasn't very fast to begin with. D. Manning looked way better. On the 2nd TD Hillenfucker was way out of position and he literally had his back to the LOS when the ball was snapped. The entire D was not set when they snapped the ball. If #54 misses much time we're totally screwed. It was a replay of last year. The D looks great on 1st and 2nd down and then sucks big hairy moose wang on 3rd down. I'd give them a C last night.

    Other than the missed FG's ST's looked OK. I'd give them a C. If they made the FG's it would have been a B.

    If the O gets in sync and we can get off the field on 3rd downs we have a chance to be a winning team. If we don't get that cleaned up we're a 4-6 win team. YIKES!

  • You're right Doc. It's way overdue, we should start learning to lose with class.

  • good read. thanks sd

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow, the season hasn't even started and already it's couch time? I sure hope the Martz hire doesn't create more problems than it solved? This kind of a system will take several years to develop/implement.

  • I said it before the game. We'd make Anderson and Leinart look good. I'm so sick and tired of boosting the confidence of crappy QBs ...

  • SD....as said earlier on this thread I will not let the vein in my forehead get the better of me....I will not judge for the PS..why because my fearless leader say's "We are all set" and I believe him. He and his BFF diet'e Tony DUNGy can walk on water..we have nothing to fear but fear itself Bear Fans..In LDL's Fantasy football we go 16-0 and win the SB and his diet'e (TD) go running thru the grass fields filled of four leaf clovers..wow..I think I have a tear in my eye

  • Ok, so it seems most would not want Haynesworth, or think we can get him for a third rounder or that he's (relatively) cheap, but I beg to differ. ONE, I think Shanahan would like nothing better than to get rid of him, if only to save face and assert his authority. Nearly half the teams in the NFL play 3-4 now, so they're off the market. The other 4-3 teams, like Saints, Colts, etc aren't desperate enough, so that further slims potential suitors. Because of reports that he's out of shape, or a douchbag, his "value" has gone down, all equaling to it being PLAUSIBLE that the bears can get him for a 3rd rounder, and say maybe OLSEN (Kellen Davis, Manu, and Clark is more than sufficient). And he is relatively cheap because Washington has already paid him like 34 million, or maybe more...I'll have to double check on that. Worst case scenario, he is merely a "rotational" player, or if he must be let go, no biggie - it won't cost us anything (except a 3rd rounder, but wasn't Melton a 3rd rounder? and he may be cut). Best case scenario, Tice whips him into shape, mentally and physically (and if he can't do it, no one can). Playing aside Harris, Peppers, Urlacher and Briggs reignites his prowess, and we have a MUCH improved D-line that can actually get to the qb and help out our merry-go-round, injury plagued, mediocre secondary.

  • As for getting VJ, I would LOVE to get him, but that's my point exactly in drafting O-LineMan with the first 4 picks of the draft: it seems that EVERY year, a PrimaDona WR is in free agency - sometimes, it's more than one, i.e. Marshall, Boldin...So why bother gambling on one in the draft?
    We Do need a Safety, along side Wright (Who I think will be solid),, but again, good Safeties hit the market every year too - i.e. Rolle and Sharpe.
    If you look at the best OLINE, the Jets, they spent two 1st rounders on a LT and C, which make even a rookie QB look better than our running for his life, I once threw for 4,500 yrds, Cutler. Now the Jets are SuperBowl contenders... The 49ers took that same philosophy in this draft, and I'm sure Old Samurai Mike had something to do with that decision.

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