Open Debate: Which Receiver To Cut

Been a while since we did one of these open debates and they usually yield an interesting result.  I stumbled on the Tribune site tonight and they are asking fans:

WHICH WIDE RECEIVER WOULD YOU CUT?

1. Earl Bennett

2. Rashied Davis

3. Juaquin Iglesias

My vote: Iglesias.  As much as I've ragged on Davis in the past, I can't overlook his impact on special teams to award a roster spot to a player whose upside is probably 10-15 catches this season.  Iglesias will find a home elsewhere and probably make a few big catches that will piss us all off but he adds nothing to the coverage units.

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  • Agree

  • By the way.. I think I won last years SuperBowl Challenge.

  • I think Bennett will have the kind of season DA had last year.. Strong finish.

  • Is it possible that we don't cut any of these three? Cutting Iglesias would be like JA admitting defeat.

  • Iglesias.

  • It's a tough one. On one hand Davis has fucked us out of valuable roster spots earlier on and been practically worthless as a wideout. On the other hand watching Iglesias get beat badly on that punt block the other night has to make you rethink the special teams value.

  • Inglesias has never gotten an opportunity outside of practice. Cut a 3rd round draft pick because of roster space? Not sure about that.

  • Im sorry, I have been hating on Rash for the last 3 years, when chicagobears.com provided the huge endorsement of him, to include a special JC quote of his greatness on their front page, that was enough to confirm that he needs to go. The propaganda machine is always trying to give hype to players that are not worthy and leaving the guys that can make a difference on the bench, redshirted or whatever. I don't know if Igy is any good, how can we know we never get to see him in a position to prove himself, but he was a third round draft pick and I don't think they are willing to say they failed yet again on another pick.

  • Another thing, so maybe Marts offense is better suited for Rash, but how many times did his hands of bricks show up the last few years on critical would be first down, keep the drive alive receptions. It doesnt matter what type offense you are in if brick hands show up, they show up. I refuse to forget that, Tubby Touba can get some improvement from some other guy we have never heard of.

  • Of course he is a decent tackler on ST.... he is a FUCKIN DB. He is 5' fucking 9" also; and I am so sick of Davis I would say cut Rasheeed if Eric Peterman was on the list. I am also sick and tired of people being able to say two of our top 4 WRs are converted DBs and only one is over 6' tall. But in the end I would move Bennett to IR and cut none of the three, that way you get to keep Iglesias another year and see if he can show up plus give Beennett a whole year , that we all know he needs, to learn the playbook.

  • No way should we use a roster spot for a guy who's only contribution is a couple special teams tackles. Davis has had what? 5yrs? 6yrs? he has shown no improvement and has questionable hands. I don't know if Iglesias will be a pro bowl receiver, but he had a stellar career at Oklahoma and its too early to bail without getting him on the field to see what he has to offer. We know what Rash has to offer...Not Much!

  • No offense intended for those billowing to keep Davis on Special Teams because of his value but I would rather see the focus of our power brokers(yeah right) to be on offense and defense. Special teams will not win a Superbowl. It may help but at the end of the day what good is it when our D bends all the way to the end zone from the opponents 20 and our O can't protect the QB long enough for him to deliver the ball to an open receiver? This is all smoke and mirrors and I would much rather see one of our starting WR's or TE's traded for a promising lineman thus giving an untested WR like Inglesias an opportunity to fill a roster spot. I would much rather give up some value with a player like Hester, Bennett or Olsen for a solid blocker than play this charade another year. We need some depth and value on our offensive line more than we need Davis.

  • If the Bears were committed to excellence Hester would still be a full time returner. I know, beating a dead horse but it's the truth.

  • Another hard fact gents, we haven't made the playoffs since the Superbowl and our Special Teams Units has ranked in the top 5 every year.

  • Cut Earl Bennett. Not. That

  • In reply to GoBears:

    So should we cut Chris Williams because he gave up or contributed to 4 sacks in one half of football? Proposterous.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Williams is missing that killer mentality but has the physical abilities to be a great LT. I blame Lovie

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Williams is missing that killer mentality but has the physical abilities to be a great LT. I blame Lovie

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I trust Martz and whatever decision he makes. He will utilize the guys he keeps and not ask them to do too much, only what they are good at. Ron Turner, Haha, had no fucking clue about much of anything. Bennett had awesome numbers last year in pretty much his rookie year. But, that was last year and those numbers don't mean squat moving forward. Let the best Keebler Elf win.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    bye...bye..rash....and the bears are the diphenhydramine hydrochloride ointment....won't happen becausue he is one of LDL's BFF's. so...IG is gone.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    I am no fan of Bennett but he catches the ball. He's too slow and this injury will only make him slower. He needs to go to the slot, not the #2 - and he needs to show he's willing to go to the middle.

    Iglasias is not NFL quality. He goes.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    Rashied Davis. Sorry he's the only good cut chose at this point. Someone will pick him up but his day in the sun never really materialized and I don't see it ever changing. Let the young guns have a chance.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    I don't know guys... I kind of feel like this is like the elephant man asking which unsightly mole he should remove.

    To trac's point, why are we still worrying about this essentially meaningless shit when our entire oline and group of safeties continue to be broken, gaping holes for this org?

    I guess in the big scheme of things, my vote is

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    As usual, plus one my man. Plus one.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    Gilbert is Michael Haynes all over again.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    Oh yeah, and Sheed is scrappy.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    Although it's a bit irrelevant to make this point, doesn't this whole question just scream out "how fucking bad are we at choosing WRs?" I may never know who exactly is at fault for the high round choices of Iglesias, Bennett, and who ultimately pulled the trigger on one of the worst decisions ever made in Beardom - turning Hester from the Cristal of returners into the Andre's Cold Duck of wide receivers. I guess they've done better with Johnny Knox and Aromashodu, so maybe things are improving, but really.

    I can't fault everyone who's sick of Davis - but I also remember the early promising years when he caught EVERYTHING - I am willing to go with the concept that his head wasn't right as suggested in a recent Trib article. Maybe Martz is the antidote to him, it wouldn't surprise me, who prospered and got better under Ron Turner? NO. ONE.

    And as painful as it is to acknowledge, he may be the best of a bad bunch. We've learned around here that it is better to acknowledge your mistakes (Dan Bazuin, cleanup on Aisle 2!) then to worry about salvaging the sunk cost of terrible picks. Speaking of terrible picks, Garrett Wolfe is still on the team?

    Bear down fellers!

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    Wolfe is scrapping hella good out there. He'll probably go in favor of Bell, but he's busting his tail on special teams.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    We need special teams studs, so point taken, although I would think there is no question that he was a guy taken two rounds too soon.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I was frustrated at Davis' drops two seasons ago, but man, its not like he killed my dog. Unfortunately I think he's become a bit of a lightning rod for fan frustration, at least on this blog.

    Like him or not, if you read the tea leaves, or the trib, or suntimes, or the official website, he's going to make the team. Even Isaac Bruce singled him out.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    ... but couldn't remember his name, just called him '81'.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He certainly is busting his miniature tail, GPL. His itty bitty likkle legs have to move twice as quickly as normal man-sized versions ... poor little blighter. Then he has to trek all the way back to Lilliput after practicing with the big people and rest his little noggin down on his marshmallow for a pillow and have his little leprechaun dreams of being big himself one day. Bring a tear to a steel eye it would.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    I *will not* subscribe to the notion that Earl Bennett was a bad draft choice.

  • In reply to PhilfromSATX:

    I have to say, the Earl Bennett pick made sense at the time. The Bears had just landed Cutler and were set on drafting a WR who could play with Jay. Earl not only led the SEC in career receptions, he actually played with Jay at Vanderbilt. Earl's bugaboo has been his leg injury this year. I believe there is enough on film from last season for the Bears to keep him around another year. Bennett made a lot of big catches last season even after taking some hard hits. The Bears could use another WR or 2 who can hang onto the ball, I say keep him around too.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    DAVIS! no doubt, fucker had his chance and failed. He can be replaced on special teams. Iglesias has a more upside, hasnt really had a chance. I rather see what he can do than see Davis waste another WR spot.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    Thread Hijack time!

    Most of us have weighed in, so onto question #2. NFL Network and SI are putting up Top 100 players of all time. 9 Bears make the list. To that end, who are your Top 10 Bears of ALL time?

    Here are SI's 9:

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bears-fire-lovie-smith/2010/08/nine-bears-top-sicoms-list-of-all-time-greats.html

    Here are my ten (ok eleven, but I had a tie):

    1. Payton
    2. Butkus
    2a. Singletary
    3. Dent
    4. Hamp
    5. Iron Mike
    6. Jimmy Mac
    7/8. I guess we have to put Red Grange and Bronco in here, even though nobody, not even Al, remembers anything about this era.
    9. Sayers
    10. Neal Anderson

    Honorable mention goes to Robocop Thornton, just because with his visor he looked like such a badass out there.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Good list GP. I think it's pretty spot on, although I know that sayers mouth of late probably forced him down way on your list. In all fairness, the dude deserves to be in the top 3-5. othewise, pretty solid.

    Oh, and I googled that dude a couple months ago just to see that exact picture. Dude had HUGE guns!

    Here's the only pic I cou;d find of him: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/71309803.jpg%3Fv%3D1%26c%3DIWSAsset%26k%3D2%26d%3D77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD43FE390DCDBC8C26BE5B2D47E28973CC42149FA7C38ABD03F06BF04B24B4128C&imgrefurl=http://www.life.com/image/71309803&usg=__plSYa-YXvrbRkHfyP8aezqw9jUU=&h=594&w=396&sz=45&hl=en&start=0&zoom=0&tbnid=ohEwnBCInAwfCM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=90&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djames%2Bthornton,%2Bchicago%2Bbears%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GGIH_en%26biw%3D1259%26bih%3D653%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=442&vpy=124&dur=32&hovh=135&hovw=90&tx=106&ty=77&ei=VoZ2TMmtGYTksQP765GhDQ&oei=VoZ2TMmtGYTksQP765GhDQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You know guys, I don't know why I didn't put this together earlier in regards to Williams playing like crap last weekend. It's gotta be Tice's blocking schemes and Martz's new playbook. This should be correctable and I hope it's not a confidence issue on Williams part because of all the scheme changes and new playbook. If Williams can't comprehend his playbook we are in deep doo doo. The poor blocking he displayed happen when a player doesn't know his responsibilities and is unsure of himself.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My initial reaction was, "Joaquin WHO?"

    If this guy's ever shown ANYTHING to warrant keeping him another year, I haven't seen it.

    Being willing to hustle and make plays on the Suicide Squads is a worthwhile, necessary, NFL skill.

    I'm with Blogfather on this choice and I think it's a no-brainer.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Agreed

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Jay called out DA as someone who was performing. He is inserted into the game and he performs. Jay just mentioned that Rash has been performing and will contribute. I can't fucking believe he said it but if the Franchise wants to give this guy a shot then we should give him a shot. Bennett stays because he is a true football player and all he does is get open and catch the ball.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sayers needs to be in the top 3-5 even though he's been a bit of a douche lately. +1 on robocop: http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/71309803.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD43FE390DCDBC8C26BE5B2D47E28973CC42149FA7C38ABD03F06BF04B24B4128C

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Chicago death cage match? Three men enter two men leave?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yes! And no biting below the waist

  • In reply to Joseph:

    ouch

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Most of mine are from my lifetime following the Bears.

    Payton
    Plank
    Butkus
    Tom Waddle
    Dan Hamton
    Van Horne
    Jim McMahon
    Desmond Clarke
    Brian Urlacher
    Mat Suhey

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    No offense Trac but couldn't you vote for Iron Mike at TE and Rick Caseras or Brian Piccolo at RB? That way you could have all white guys. Matt Suhey over Neal or Gale? WOW! Waddle over Gault, Johnny Morris or my personal fave Dennis McKinnon. McKinnon was the same as Waddle except he was actually talented, had some speed and was the best downfield blocker of any Bears WR in my lifetime. In a couple of more years I'll be ready to throw Gould into this list. Doug Atkins at DE. Dick Gordon was also a keeper at WR but not sure he quite makes this list. Jimbo Covert has to be in the running for an OL. Unless #54 bounces back and has a couple more REALLY good years, I'd vote for Samurai over him. Hopefully Cutler will replace Jimmy Mac in a few years. Richard Dent has to be on this list.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Like I said, I wanted to vote for the players that I actually got to watch. Samurai had one hell of a supporting cast around him. Was he intense? Yes. Did he rev up his team mates around him? Yes. I always thought Samurai was given more of an advantage than Urlacher because of the players around him. Waddle gets my vote because of his heart alone. That guy loved football so much that he laid his body on the line for the team. Matt Suhey was the same kind of player. I never got to watch Ditka play and probably would have voted for him if I had. Just thought I'd spice it up. I was around for the tail end of Samurai's career. Urlacher has been playing better than Samurai did at the same point in time of their careers.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Chuckling inside, I gotta wonder if Childress told Favre about Rice's pending surgery when he sent the three stooges to Hattiesburg?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/26/favre-has-a-new-built-in-excuse/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Definitely Inglesias. He might be slower than Bennet, lacks physicality for his size, and hasn't been good enough to make the field yet. Dropped an easy 15 yarder last game. Great pick Jerry. Jay and Earl have good chemistry together and is consistent in bringing the ball in and running good routes. Rashied might have had the best camp out of anyone on the squad according to coaches and players.

    Reports that Wolfe and Lava are possible trade bait. I'm good with Wolfe being traded, but I don't understand why they're giving up on the Volcano. They start him from game 1 last year; he shows he's good in the box, is a strong tackeler, and has great pop. He had some coverage lapses, but for a rook I thought he played very well and was developing. Then, Lovie's magical chair shit show safety charade machine eats him and spits him out. I don't understand Lovie's safety approach of developing a guy and then going with someone else. Constantly rotating safeties makes it hard for the backfield to mesh and gain confidence in one another. Probably my biggest complaint about Smith besides clock management is his rotation of safeties.

    Congrats on the twins Irish!!

  • In reply to Crowned:

    +1

  • In reply to Crowned:

    Thanks Crown. Cash is good ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Making a list with all the great Bears players is hard. Here is my opinion as of right now...

    1A. Butkus
    1B. Payton
    3. Atkins
    4. Grange
    5. Hampton
    6. Sayers
    7. Luckman
    8. Singletary
    9. Dent
    10. Dikta
    11. Gould (moving up the list)

    It's impossible to not place Atkins high for Da Blog readers, since we can all agree with this type of signing bonus...

    "Both sides agree, however, that Weeb threw in a special "Bonus" - eight beers and two hamburgers".

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Cut which one? Try all of 'em, and sign I don't know ... BRANDON @#$%@!& MARSHALL WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE JERRY !

    Deep breaths.

    1. Sweetness
    2. Butkus
    3. Gale Sayers
    4. Luckman
    5. Dent.
    6. Singletary.
    7. Neal Anderson.
    8. Doug Atkins.
    9. Willie Galimore.
    10. Tom Waddle

    With honorable mentions for McMichael, Hampton, Red Grange, Nagurski, Willie Gault, Jay Hilgenberg, Jimbo Covert, McKinnon, Gentry, Wilbur Marshall & Brian Urlacher. Oh, and Jay Christopher Cutler in about two or three years ....

    Audi.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Why would they cut any of them? Last year they had six receivers and with the Martz offense being pass-heavy my guess would be keep six receivers again.
    Hester
    Knox
    Aromashadu
    Bennett
    Davis
    Iglesias

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Welcome back Ghost. Haven't seen you in a while.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Pretty important question considering we don't have 1 receiver who has proved they can stay healthy through an entire year.

    It comes down to itchy rash vs Julio Inglasias

    We have seen the itchy rash's ceiling. He's a good special teamer and a slow shitty receiver with bad hands. None of us can pretent to know how good who who Julio can be. He didn't play at all last year. So, I say drop the itchy rash, put some calamine lotion on it, and make it go away. Give the kid some playing time and lets see what he can do.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    gggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooossssssssssssstttttttttttt!!!!!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Like to see us keep the last tall receiver we have. I know Matthews has soiled the sheets a bit, but even Jerry Rice dropped balls like hot potatoes in his early days. We've already cut Antonio Robinson, our other NFL sized receiver. And what about whatshisface? Sixteen thousand receptions in a season guy, not Peterman obviously, the dude, damn, google .......Freddie Barnes, thank you. Guy's a baller. He's a dude that *will* get better.

    One thing nobody mentioned is that Rashied Davis is 31 - not the kiss of death for a receiver by any means, but added to that the fact that the guy could drive a matchbox car to work with Garret Wolfe in the passenger seat and he's not exactly a must-have on the roster. We wouldn't be talking about receivers at all if we'd given up a second rounder for Marshall. Damn, if our GM had any stones we could have had Terrell Owens too and still kept Shabba, Knox, Hester, Bennett. Hell, if they're going to persist with Hester they might as well trade him while he's still got some value and not being a waste of 7 million a year .....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0913/nfl-values-10-bears-chicago-football-money-midgets-midway.html?boxes=businesschannellighttop

    How the Chicago Bears Fumbled Away a Fortune. "[Since 1995] no NFL team has done less with more."

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    it's because they're not trying to be great....just doing enough to make a profit (which is very sad)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    "Candy Store" mentality.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    You got that right. The Bears situation is a direct result of being run by trust fund babies.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Thanks for sharing. This article is very telling.

    "If the Bears have been good at anything, it's at keeping payroll down. Since forbes began tracking team values in 1998, the Bears have never made the NFL's top ten for paying talent. ."

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Trac, do you have any daughters: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_15884666

    Ok, ok I'm just kidding... I keed I keed!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If only we were single, we'd be all over those sites!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    By the bye, how high would you guys draft a receiver this year? Safety? O-Lineman ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Here's my draft order:
    1st DB
    2nd OL
    3rd DB
    4th OL
    5th DB
    6th OL
    7th DB

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I like that 'cept I'd swap the order. OL, DB, OL, DB...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They should be drafting Urlachers replacement next year. But yea, I agree with that order. And Tommie's replacement too. And draft more guys with dreadlocks, dreads are cool! lol

  • In reply to Joseph:

    We fucking HAD urlacher's replace-fucking-ment Joe (with some gym time and some Weight Gain 4000)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No I mean we need a guy that can carry on the tradition of bone-crushing Middle linebackers in this town. A guy that has a mean streak, someone who can bench press a Kia. A leader of the defense. All I gotta say is Urlacher better play like fucking Ray Lewis with rabies this year. No more excuses out of him. O.k i'm done bitching.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    with you Joe.

    I was a pretty big fan of Brandon Spikes outta Tebowville. Of course we couldn't have been smart enough to traded the Patriots for golden boy to get one of their picks... or maybe even straight up (I keed).

    I just looked up spikes on wikipedia, and he ran a 5.0 40???? Wow.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    59-24? do the Colts suck that bad? or is it pre-season?

    but got damn......59-24? oh boy......

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Do you doubt Peyton Manning?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    fuck no. not even for a minute...

  • In reply to Joseph:

    good point on Urlacher, yes. maybe the year after, first pick and trade up as high as we can go, no messing around.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    We will not cut any of them. For one, we will have injuries. For two, Martz will need a wide reciever. For three, the one thing this team has a hard time doing, admitting mistakes.

    Jeff, you have a lot of faith in the o-line and the secondary. We should be talking about how long is Jay is going to last in a Martz's offense and how many times will it be third and long.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Bingo!

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I have no faith in the secondary, or defense in general. I think the Bears are going to be pretty good offensively. I don't overreact to preseason games. In 2006, this site was littered with people saying the Bears would stink off poor preseason performances,

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    One question Jeff. What do you think the Bear's will be? There record I mean.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Their*

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I am honestly not sure yet. But I'm leaning toward 10-6. I think they're going to be surprisingly entertaining.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    However, I think the flipside is 4-12.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I'd nearly be okay with 4-12. It guarantees :

    1. Better draft position
    2. The clown car being run out of town.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    LB Shoutout: http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/15326/nfc-north-most-indispensable-players

    Jeff, what about the official DBB shirt? Joe is cranking out some Aroma goods, but what about the officials?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I don't think that moron even watches games... he got maybe 1 out of 4 of those right and even that he didn't pick for the right reason.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    :o) I see where you're coming from Trac ... maybe it's best Angelo doesn't draft anymore receivers. I like them ready-made anyhow, grab free-agents that are already up to speed on the NFL.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And we won something ...

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bears-fire-lovie-smith/2010/08/nine-bears-top-sicoms-list-of-all-time-greats.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Way too young for that. Gotta admit it though, Tebow has lead a pretty charmed life up til now. I like the kid.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Anyone see Hard Knocks? Man, they got DOWN on Joe McKnight, rook back from USC. He's fucking up his playbook, assignments, all kinds of shit.

    Bart Scott yells at him "damn rook, you mad or something? I know you took a pay cut from USC to come here, but get your head in the game!"

    Awesome.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sokJfLui2Mw

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    no thats hazing. Would love to see Dez Bryant go through that. I would of teabag the guy. haha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Cardinals have announced Derek Anderson as their starting QB for Saturday night.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    ouch man...ouch. Leinhart has officially become a career backup. At least the Cards coaches and management can admit a mistake. That takes fucking guts, wasn't he a first round pick?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I just looked at the Cardinals stats. I don't think Anderson will be the starter. He has a rating of 58.8 in the pre season, Leinhart is 90.9. Anderson also has more attempts which the backups usually have in the pre season.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Not only was he first round pick (10th overall) they took him instead of Jay Cutler, DeAngelo Williams and Nick Mangold ....

    A.W. (According to Wiki) Mr. Leinart was born cross-eyed, which is slightly amusing considering an out-of-favor QB.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Hey Irish, Congrats my man! Best wishes to your better half and the bambinos x 2. If the girls are anything like you then you have nothing to worry about. I'm thinking they would be relentless, stubborn and tenacious. Hope you get some sleep this year!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I keep forgetting to mention canada... how about adding an avatar?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, I should break down. Let me think about it. How 'bout Pee Wee Herman?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Common Canada! I have mental pictures of all of the regs (more on that in a future post), make it good man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm working on it.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Wow, this is a first! We all agree on something, "Keep Bennett" Not one blogger has chosen to get rid of Earl, unless I missed it while speed reading all the replies. yeah Johnnie, Leinhart was a first rounder. The Titans coaches wanted him, not Vince Young. The owner vetoed that and forced the Vince Young choice. Leinhart was chosen 10th.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Leinhart blows. Guy's a douche... but I'm sure he's gotten more than his fair share of cash and hot strange from the experience, so I'm sure he's not complaining. I certainly would have taken that gig right out of college Murph.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    murph is that really you makin out with a dog?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I asked the same thing Fresno... look closer... it's actually Mongo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Might have to change that pic MB. Everyone thinkin thats me instead of Mongo.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I kinda like it Murph. Mans best friend. When I first saw it

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Major Penis - FS
    Chris Harris/Alfalfa - SS
    Peanut - RC
    Bowman - LC
    Manning - Nickle
    ---------

    Backups:
    Steltz/Webber(?) - FS
    Steltz/bullocks (did I just write that?!?!) - SS
    Moore/Jennings? -CBs

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Nice conspiracy theory SC, but we all know it's all about one thing... money money mooooonaaaahhhyyyy!!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hope you like the new avatar. It's an old pic.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Holy cow! Ok, two things:

    1. The Geztapo will get you

    2. I can't blog next to my wife anymore

    Not that I'm not a fan, but...

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canadians gone wild

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    hee hee

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry about that. It just hit me that pic could make this blog not safe for work. That would suck. This one is much safer. It was taken from our deck. The two fawns are only a few days old.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/john_lopez/08/25/rookie.hidden.gems/index.html

    i.e., all the guys Jerry was too fucking dumb to draft.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    1) keep earl the pearl

    2) johnny knox retweeted me on twitter. he asked what ppl thought about an 18 game season...

    RT @Jknox13: RT @FQD1911: @Jknox13 could be cool, but much rather have 16 and they just take away 2 pre-season games (games mean more now than would w/18

    #BearDown

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Have to fault Knox's logic there. Games in an 18-game schedule would mean just as much as in a 16 game season. How do they become any less meaningful? You've got to win more than the guys in your division. Period.

    He wants to play less for the same money. No fair. By all means take away two pre-season games (for which they get paid a minimal fee) and turn them into games that count (for which they get paid good style). But don't try and ask to do less for more Johnny Knox - you're privileged and don't forget it.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I'm for keeping Bennett as well, I can recall him making some nice catches last year and taking some punishment in order to do so.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Whatever happens FQ, 4 preseason games are too many. I remember when there were 6 of them.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think 16 games is plenty. If they go to 18, they should expand the roster. Also, don't you think with two more games we'll just end up with more meaningless games at the end of the season?

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    As a Bears fan I've experienced more meaningless games than I care to remember.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Exactly.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Well said Trac

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Aaron Rodgers 21/29 195yds 3 Td's 0 int's tonight...this puss bag must be stopped!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I'm no Packer fan but Rodgers is a fucking awesome QB. It doesn't hurt that he may have a Hall of Fame wide receiver or at the very least the best wide receiver in the history of the Pack on his team...and Greg Jennings too. Too bad Peppers is going to fucking keel him. keel!!!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Finley is the danger man we have to stop. And how pray tell do we stop him? Looking forward to seeing the replay and how much pressure the Colts got on him. Methinks none. I'd like to see how he manages with TH, Pep, Izzy and whoever lines up at nose. Send Manning after him all night and we might have their number. Still no run game, so if we take away the pass what have they got?

    And how about those Vikes? Old man Favre feeling shaky. Rice can't walk. Harvin has 'migraines'. Ahem. No Chester. No secondary. Suspect O-line. Fumble prone half back. What are we scared of again?

    If we can sweep the Packers we win the division.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    +1 Irish. Finley is Rodgers #1 target this year. Look out for Lee to have a big year too. The Packers's recievers are big and nasty.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Question of the day:

    Just wanted to get your guys take on who you think our starting defensive backs should be and at what position you would like to see them play?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    1s

    Pringles - FS
    Harris - SS
    Peanut/Bowman - CBs
    Smurf moore - Nickel

    2s

    Manning - FS
    Steltz - SS
    Trumane / Tim Jennings - CBs
    Corey Graham - backup nickel

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Looking at the GB game it just showed how shot our roster is Trac. Their starting safety goes down, up steps Burnett. Both their backup QBs look like confident, competent guys. There was an interesting stat - since 1993 GB have started 2 QBs, we've started 21. The 40 something combos Lovie's had at the safety position all has to point back at Angelo.
    Brackett goes down for the Colts, in steps Angerer and doesn't miss a beat. Bob Sanders has missed more games than he's played, but there's always someone there to step in and pick it up. Depth and development of players. I can take Lovie - the players like him, and he doesn't really have much of a role any more other than control of the little red flag in his pocket - but Angelo is the reason we're asking ourselves who should be playing defensive backs. It should be obvious. And there should be the solid replacement and then a promising youngster in behind them on the depth chart. We don't even know who our starters are because they're all average

    Our safeties are so average I'd start Harris at SS and rotate the rest at FS until someone shows us something. Major Wright could be the temporary stop-gap until we draft a blue-chipper - but he's inexperienced. I think we should have drafted a good lineman instead of Wright and waited until we could draft a stud next year instead of hoping the seventh rated safety would be better than advertised. I mean between Manning, Steltz, Bullocks and Afalava, they had to draft another safety with our top pick. What does that say about our safeties and the guy that drafts them?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, two small things :

    1. Logier has much more power than that... he'll be calling the d as usual. No way He's going to let his bff fail or show that he made a bad pick.

    2. Can't really use gb because of farce... but the point is 100% valid and applicable.

    Bottom line Jerry AND lovie MUST go

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, Congrats, and best wishes for your little girls. Enjoy your sleep now. With daughters you wont be sleeping good for say...the next 25 years. They will always be Daddy's little girls.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Although the offensive line has to tighten up Jay Cutler does not look like an NFL starting quarterback. The difference between an NFL first string quarterback is his ability to make the best decision with the football especially when under pressure. Jay Cutler is an interception machine due to the fact he cannot make the best decision with the football in his hands when under the slight bit of pressure. Tom Brady is cool in the pocket even when under pressure. Jay Cutler looks like a deer in the head lights even when he has blocking. The Denver Broncos duked the Bears into giving them a 2009 1st round pick, a 2010 1st round pick, a 3rd round pick, and Cal Orton to take on Jay Cutler huge salary. Jay Cutler is clearly not a starting quarter back in the NFL. Lovie Smith is a great football coach and because the Bears have a brainless clown in GM Angelo and an ancient lady owner who trusts everything Mr. Don't know anything about football Angelo says Lovie Smith looks bad. Lovie Smith's coaching career has been destroyed by two 3rd string quarter backs namely Rex Grossman and Jay Cutler that were forced on him to let them start by the Bear's front office. QB Cal Orton went 8-8 with Denver in 2009 and the Bears went 7-9 with Cutler at QB with 26 interceptions. All 26 of those interceptions were not the fault of the offensive line. Chicago gave up two first round picks, one 3rd round pick,and Cal Orton for The Interception King Machine Cutler. The Bears should have kept Orton and used those two 1st round picks and that 3rd round pick to draft offensive line men for Orton and Hanie to throw behind and the running backs to run behind and the Bears would have be far better off. The Bears are not better with Jay Cutler at quarter back. Rookie Dan LeFevour looked better than Cutler did against the Cardinals and LeFevour was playing behind the 2nd and 3rd string offensive line. Cutler is a bust the Bears need to cut Jay Cutler right now and keep Colins, Hanie,and LeFevour for our QB's

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Thanks guys. Yeah, thought about how I could work 'Walter' and 'Payton' into girl's names but it wasn't happening. First off, Irish people don't call their kids 'Walter' ... and 'Payton' would remind me of a certain turtleheaded Dolt that somehow got himself a superbowl MVP award when he stank. So Kerry Lou 'Araya' & Reya Lou 'Arida' it is for the Western/Thai names.

    I'm back home now with the missus, but the girls will be in the ICU for about another month until they look a bit more like William Perry. But they're off the vents now, which is good - that's a hard thing to see little things that size fighting for every breath. Who knows, they might be home in time for the Detroit game and some late night Bear football !

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish..blessings in double brother for you and your bride..is this your first for children? If so welcome to the world of sleep deprivation all I can say is lots of java..java..java..java and then some more!!!! and welcome to the club!! best parenting movie...Parenthood..says it all!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Thanks Lobo, yeah first time daddy. The doctor in the ICU copped that when I started blubbing. Sleep was one of my favorite things too. At least I'll be awake for all the games ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, best wishes for the girls man. Now is a good time to buy some knives, a machete, and/or a shotgun... hmmmm... twins, make that two.

    Also, I thought you guys might find this interesting: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Post-game-notes-ColtsPackers.html

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, best wishes for the girls to have a speedy recovery and to get home soon. Is there going to be a marriage soon?

    Also thought you guys might find this interesting: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Post-game-notes-ColtsPackers.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1000, or make that +3000, on all the ladies in your life recovering speedily and coming HOME!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Canada, can I also point something out (in fun)...

    You went from the default cone (or hat, or whateverthefuckitis), to boobies, to a fucking deer (not that it isn't a beautiful shot). That's quite a progression my man.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    She'll have to get divorced first MB!

    Just watched the GB/Colts game. We have our work cut out for us with those boys. Rodgers looks like about the best in the league right now doesn't he?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    damn. got me. Doesn't happen often, but there it is...

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Damn - I get it now! The '72 Dolphin alumni are pushing for the 18 game season!

    Perhaps a greater cost than the addition broken bodies of the longer campaign will be the temperature rises caused by all the extra hot air from Mercury Morris and those other assholes crowing about how great they were.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    An 18 game schedule just makes roster depth that much more important - which makes people like Jerry Angelo kryptonite to your organization's inner Superman. It creates more jobs, more football, more money for the owners. It's all good.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    You shouldn't need preseason games to find out whether a guy can play or not. That's what practice is for. The problem is that most teams don't hold real practices any more and the truth of the matter is that preseason games are a waste of time now. Coaches don't even show their scheme package's they'll use for the reg. season.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Watch Hard Knocks. Preseason games tell coaches a lot.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Beeeeee- sides - the player sports his OWN website. Gets Larry Mayer to fluff him on camera

    http://www.earlbbennett.com/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Love the show man, oh i wished the bears would do that show, just so everyone can see how much of a dumbass Lovie and Angelo are.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    10 Dan Hampton. Hall of Fame credentials gives him an edge over Dent.
    9 Harold Grange. Elite running back that helped make football a legitimate sport.
    8 Mike Singletary. Middle linebacker for the best defense ever.
    7 Gale Sayers. If he had the longevity of Sweetness he would probably be considered the best all time runner.
    6 Sid Luckman. Almost 8% of his passes went for a touchdown
    5 Bronislau Nagurski. I feel no need to justify this selection
    4 Mike Ditka. Even though he was the first tight end in the Hall of fame he will always be remembered as Da Coach.
    2b Walter Payton. The greatest Running back of all time no matter what any Jim Brown fans think.
    2a Dick Butkus. The most terrifying man to ever make a tackle.
    1 George Halas. I can't believe no one thought of him.

  • In reply to luftwaffle:

    Re Hampton, Doug Atkins is also in the HOF and has 8 pro bowls to Hampton's 4 selections.

  • Was Doc...was. I had a Sterling Sharpe jersey when i little because my dad was from Green Bay. Donald Driver has surpassed Sharpe and will continue to do so.

  • irish has a lil' pup now....congrats my man

  • o wait...u got 2 of them? damn bro...potent sperm ass. congrats again

  • Irish, I think I posted my congrats to you and yours on a dead blog thread last inght. So congratulations, you're a lucky guy.

    I always look forward to reading your comments at night time, thanx for always contributing to such a fine blog.

  • In reply to bnjrmyn:

    Damn, if I wasn't made of lead I might actually mist up at that Ben. But seriously, cash would be better ...

  • Not to be personal Irish, but what are their names? Assuming they are both boys, Walter and Payton? lol congrats again.

  • Thanks Doc - mom is walking like Muhammad Ali and the little ones are in boxes until they get a lot bigger. All the baby stuff is in the house but there won't be any babies here for a month or so. A month more of sleep I guess.

  • It won't feel entirely real until they're home SD, it's one thing visiting the ICU which is 85 km from my house, but when you get home it's oh-so-normal.

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