Camp Questions Begin

With camp starting at the end of next week, it's time to start focusing our attention on what will actually be worth watching for the duration of the month of August.  And I'm not talking about the camp battles we've been analyzing for the past three months.  You can't evaluate a pass rusher in camp.  You can't evaluate offensive line play.  I'm talking about the specifics.  The good stuff.  Like...

DEVIN HESTER
This is going to be the definitive year of the Devin Hester Experiment. If it don't work now, it ain't gonna work.  And if it don't work for this coaching staff, I don't imagine the next group will wanna give it a try.  Should Hester fail to evolve into the front-line receiver the staff thinks he is, the Bears will have been responsible for depriving the organization and NFL fans with one of the most exciting talents in the history of the league.  Hester struggled, noticeably at times, to grasp the complexities of Ron Turner's antiquated system.  We have to hold our breath and hope his transition to Mad Mike is a smooth one.
LOVIE SMITH'S MOOD
2010 is Lovie's Last Stand and all it will take is some poor practices, an on-field scuffle or a disastrous preseason first quarter for the media to start applying pressure on him.  Lovie has shown to have a short temper at times, coupled with flights of fancy that bring out phrases like "team of destiny".  I wonder which Lovie we'll be getting in Bourbonnais.
MATT FORTE AND CHESTER TAYLOR
In some places this is being reported as a battle but I don't see it.  The questions I'll have heading into next week will be strictly about usage.  How does Mike Martz imagine the two men fit his normally run-averse system?  Which player will be out there on guaranteed passing downs?  How often will Martz spread one of them out wide?  Will we ever see them in the game together?  And perhaps most importantly - who is going to be the closer?  Who is going to put opponents away as fourth quarters wind down?  I'll be watching them both closely.

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  • what about Jay Cutler's improvement on not throwing int? I think that would be something we all want to see go down.

  • Hester - Pro Bowl
    Forte - Pro Bowl
    Taylor - 10 TD's
    Smith - Pro Bowl Coach

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oh and Cutler, Pro Bowl.

    By the way MB, was just ribbin ya, you young pup. See last thread about #16. Just messin around my friend.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    No worries Trac... I have to agree that it's a nice euphemism for 'immature asshole'. Title accepted!

    This is one of the only places where I can say whatever the fuck I want without getting fired or divorced.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dude.. fired or divorced.. I am writing that one down..next to the dangerous when girls come into it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Not what I met at all MB. I seem to remember Fan saying something about you pup. Maybe it was one of the other victims he lost it on. I don't think you are immature at all. Bad attempt at humor I guess.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Not at all Trac... it was actually my bad attempt at humor to meet your good humor.

    We're totally and completely good my man. No need to apologize for anything. Self deprecation is a skill that I try to practice every day.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    HEY BOYS...I have come to the conclusion that my AVATAR represents LDL's....LFC.....LovieFestCamp....problem is the girls in my avatar actually hit in their camp....well......hand slap each other.....shit what's the difference!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I miss seeing Mike, Lobo. Your avatar ... well I just can't make another Olsen joke today.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You could get banned! By the bye, what happened to Da Coach's Mustache ? Doc said something about it on the other thread ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Okay, just saw Doc fess up. It was the legendary Crown. Don't sweat it Crown. Here's an idea for you man.

    Sign up on WCG and go hog wild reaming Olsen until that doosh Dale boots you off for having an opinion that doesn't match his. Intersperse with a little - "Y'know sometimes I like to go up to the perfume counters and just lay on a smile ... like the other day ..."

    I'm not suggesting you use any username that implies Olsen is effeminate. I wouldn't suggest such a thing. That would just be immature and uncalled for.

    The 'Rhinestone ponyboy' or 'Kickball 90210' would be just inappropriate.

    'Follow me on Twitter because 20,000 girls love my lion's mane locks' would be too long for a username anyway .....

    So would -'The never-ending story of Hattie Hillenmeyer and Gregorina Olsen's adventures in the beauty salon'

    ... and 'Hattie H tackles Greg from behind and gets called for unnecessary roughness' would just be wrong on so many levels ... yet feel so right. Oooh!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Brilliant!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oh yeah, and I'm fucking done with questions... I want answers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +100 fucking points.. That is what I should have said first!! Damn it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Here some answers for you '85.

    Just three little words... Mike. Fucking. Ditka.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5401088

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7upG01-XWbY

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    They are making a second one to that movie.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    B85S23..It might as well be a reality show of the last couple of years!!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    problem MB & B83S23...I posted that up just to show how FU@#!@#$!@#$KED up the salaries are for these guysand the owners making money hand over fist and still bitch about how bad it is....especially with the rookies who haven't even completed a down.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Squeeky wheel gets the grease lobo.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I know one good deed doesn't erase all the bad deeds in this world but I wish more teams would do this and I would like to hear the bears doing this. I know we hate the Steelers and Raperburger but you know what, as I watch this video, I feel like the Bears are missing this, we can be the monsters of the midway on sundays, mondays, and thursdays but why not be generous human beings are some of these days.

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3462278

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    damn, I have something in my eye man... common!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jebus. Worthlessburger got me moist.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    5 years ago I would have considered that a nice fluff piece and moved on with my day......but that's not the case anymore as I have two boys that are 3 and 1. I understand that father's feelings of rage, anguish and guilt. That kid is an inspiration, and I have to give the Steelers and Ben credit for putting that day together. Great post.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Yup. That would be the greatest thing for me about being a huge NFL star. Just giving kids like that the time of day, ringing them up from time to time, no biggie for you, means the whole world to them.

    Completely weak blocking on the touchdown though. Kid was open for a clothesline there.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The best part.. All the cameras were over him and Ben was like do they bother you? and the kid was like no.. why worry? Damn.. A kid not a grown adult but a kid with that kind of confidence..Wow.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    funny how life changes, eh?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    THIS is the movie that fucking lovie and Jerry and Teddy need to be MADE to watch Lobo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TROhlThs9qY

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    AMEN!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This little clip with a few character changes sum up last years season:

    Elaine JA
    Kramer LDL
    Newman Fans as the season went on

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMq3w7RVnvc&feature=related

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Coffee - Lovie I'm talking to you - Coffee is for fucking CLOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    but..but..but GP " We have a lot of Football left"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Check out Ozzir44's comment below the clip. Priceless.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We got Arec Bardwin!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    O.K. blogfather i will stick to the thread:

    1. Experiment should be over but!?? Hekyl/Jekyl seems the way we are going..HE SCORED MORE OFFENSE WHEN HE WAS A KR & PR!! crickey don't you see it!!

    2.LDL's mood is from to much prozac... or trying to figure out how far his nose is up JA's ass and then tri-fold where JA's nose begins into Canary Boy's ass..it's one big circle jerk!

    3.Why? we have a one two punch that the league is going to have to keep an eye on!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    That's actually his real middle name. Little known fact.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Doesn't Mike realise the owners get paid next year no matter what ? They put out girl guides every Sunday and they still get paid. Save a bunch on salaries too. They get richer if there's no real football!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Actually it Mike Fuck YOU Ditka.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    agreed

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    my jebus's knee you guys were going crazy last night. Good stuff... just warming up for the season.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Good line for a movie MB ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    feel free to use it in your screenplay Irish.

    I assume you're working on one right... no, maybe you should think about it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    it's a porno MB. Featuring me ... and eh ... twenty or so girls form the North East. I start off with a girl my age, and then they get a year younger in every scene. Very little dialogue, but influenced by Wesley Pipes.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I hope your at least 40..since you don't get younger and they do lol

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ron Turner failed to get the ball in Hesters hands in open space. Martz will find ways. He seems to "get it". I blame Turner for the deficiencies on offense. If a toilet overflows at Soldier Field I blame Ron Turner.

    Lovie has an experienced staff around him and is not burdened by calling the defensive plays. I'm sure he gets the final say but he can now focus on the little things such as clock management.

    If Forte is back to Rookie form, I see Forte as the feature back. The beauty of having similar type RB styles is that both players can do the exact same things. They are both essentially 3 down backs. No need to change up the game plan. That's why I hope Unga works out so can move some chains late in the game. I'm hoping he can wear down the opposing d-lines for a couple of series late in the game.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Martz has been to the superbowl, Rod has been to the superbowl, and Lovie has been to the superbowl. I hope they got it down to go back this year.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Can Urlacher regain his leadership role on D? Or is it Briggs now? Does Chris Harris step in as the leader? Is this Bowmans breakout year? He is the man now. He has to defend Calvin Johnson, Jennings, R. Moss, Sidney Rice, B. Marshall. All pro bowlers. Yikes!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Miles Austin, Steve Smith, Jackson. Our Db's better be ready.. because we are playing a lot of teams that have just decent receivers that are good.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Peppers & Briggs are of the same cloth - lead by playing hard, but not vocal leaders. i view the vocality coming from #54 and C. Harris (and that will do the team just great). although it's great to have All-Pro caliber players (thinking Peppers & Briggs here), every team needs ppl on both sides of the ball that are going to provide heart & passion through words (b/c sometimes just doing it isn't enough....some people need to hear it).

    As for offense, Cutty has officially taken the reigns on this one (as it should be). after he was talking shit to Olin a/b his blocking (well-deserved) b/c Olin said "why don't you try to throw it to our guys for once," Cutty has taken this team over on offense. He takes up for his teammates, puts ALL the blame on himself, and makes the guys want to go through a brick wall b/c of this demeanor. wouldn't rather have any other QB as the QB for this team but him...and yes i'm serious.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    When did Cutler get onto Olin? I would like to read that or see that because I missed that.

    I agree about Qb for us is Jay.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    forgot where i read that at, but it wasn't a big blip b/c it got hush-hushed. i'll look around, but no promises

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I feel the Blogfather's points, while valid, all take a back seat to the performance of offensive line.

    I am reminded of what Mike Martz said when the Bears hired him:

    "Everything starts with the offensive line. Everything."

    If the O-line is not markedly better, everything else is academic.

    The fact that Olin Kruetz and Frank Omiyale are, apparently, being counted on to come up BIG in 2010 is NOT very encouraging to me.

    I so want to enjoy 2010 because the lemmings all seem to be racing towards the cliff and into a lockout in 2011 as, once again, the MILLIONAIRE$ cannot decide how to divvy up the BILLION$.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al..Preach it!!!you are on target.

    and again where are the two guards? we all asked for..oh yeah "we are all set" I am still on this soap box!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    +1.

    Jimmy Mac came to Cutty's rescue on ESPN, saying he can't look good unless he has time to look good.

    I've watched Bears football since 1975, that's when I can first remember full seasons. I've seen the Steve Fullers and Tom Willis come and go. I've never seen anyone like Cutler in a Bears uniform before. He's the best. Better than Jimmy Mac and I am old enough to say that.

    If they can't protect him, we're fucked. If they can, then the Hester thing doesn't really matter. It's irrelevant. Shabba means more to the O than Hester, he causes safeties to cheat zones because they have to help against his size.

    I think Forte will show last year he was hurt, and have a bounceback year. But again, last year run blocking was as bad as pass blocking, maybe worse.

    I know we all remember, but maybe some of us mentally blocked it out - this is a team that had to go to the playbook of the last year of Dan Marino to survive. Snaps had to come from the gun, just to let Cutty have a SHOT at getting the ball away.

    It was, at times, perhaps the worst O line I've ever seen. Worse than the mid-70's lines anchored by Noah Jackson, who could barely block for Walter. I just can't remember a worse squad at blocking than last year's line. None. Not even the shit lines for Kordell Stewart as the bears QB, and those were shit teams.

    Like MB, I'm tired of posing questions. It's time to see if Tice can turn this ship around. I personally feel as if Kreutz is shot, that's only because I tore my achilles and I know the injury and how devastating it is. He looked bad last year, and maybe he shouldn't have even been playing at all - but I don't think he's suddenly pro bowl again.

    We missed the ship in the draft. I know he's the 3rd rounder, but if Major Pain doesn't deliver this year, then he's a bust and Jerry should eat a shit sandwich.

    I fear Tillman is totally vasher-ized, he's just not the same after getting his lung deflated and ribs smashed in. We will see. We all love Peanut so we will see.

    I wish it started tomorrow.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP..Christo!!!..you had to being Noah Jackson's name up..If I remember correctly he couldn't even see is toes that gut hung over!!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Noah Jackson. AKA: Buddah.

    Back in the days when the Bear offensive lineman who was quickest off the snap was, alas, then head coach Abe Gibron.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Better than Jimmy Mac ? Strong words GPL. Until Cutty gives us a bunch of impossible comebacks (see Minny, Tampa Bay and KC) and a superbowl, Jimbo's the man. Never saw a smarter QB in my lifetime, not that Montana was any slouch. But Montana had Bill Walsh, that O-line, Roger Craig, Jerry Rice yada yada. Cutler still has to write the legend ... but he's definitely got tools that Jimmy didn't have.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jimmy Mac only had one eye.. And was still a badass.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Apologies. the agent is BUS Cook and I should have included a link...

    http://www.mensjournal.com/in-the-august-issue-favre

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jimmy Mac had Walter Payton.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GPL, were you watching those games in the mid 70's to the 80's? Noah Jackson was one of the best blockers on those lines. He was the guard that pulled and Walter consistently ran behind when he rushed for 1800 yards in 77 and well over a 1000 most other seasons. Randy White was arguably the best pass rusher in the game at the time. Every time the Bears played Dallas, Noah Jackson took him to school. I have no idea how you can say those o lines were bad when Payton was tearing up the league. I had to jump in because Buddah was one damn good player. Dita cut him because he was fat, not that he couldnt play. In todays game he would be considered smallish for a guard.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I said Jackson anchored those lines. He was the best blocker on those lines, I agree. But in Walter's own stories and other Bear books, most acknowledge Payton's greatness by saying his lines in his first 5 years really sucked. It was mostly Walter.

    When the Hillgenburgs and Bortzes and Van Hornes came along, they probably extended Sweetness career by a good 5 years at the end and made sure the records got broken. But let us not pretend that those early lines under Pardee were dominant, that's just not the commonly accepted perception.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I re-read what I wrote. It makes it sound like I said Buddah could barely block. But I meant the line, hence the use of the comma.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Murph, you are now the official resident Bear Historian. Glad to see you on top of your game Brother. I was thinking similar thoughts when I scrolled down to your post.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I've been on that soapbox with you two, as you've likely seen. There is that small matter of an offensive line.

    On the positive side, there has been virtually no mention of Omiyale - I do not think that no-op is part of the plan going forward. That pleases me, although only microscopically vis-a-vis the fact that THERE IS NO RON G.D. TURNER!!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Thank the Football gods for that..... SCD...he will make Indy look like shit this years..LOL!!!!

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Oh, and...

    Are you fucking even serious with this... This is one of the best things I think I've ever seen. If we get to the superbowl this year I AM buying some of this for my SB party: http://www.uncrate.com/men/culture/drinks/the-end-of-history-beer/

    Ho-ly sheite, muslim! Scotts are crazy motherfuckers.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://thelaughingmarcus.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/so-much-win.jpg?w=445

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hahahaha

  • In reply to gpldan:

    two words.... Douche. Bag.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Five words. He is not coming back.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    You could have said that in 4 words 85. Just sayin.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The purpose was to not say Brett's number or his name... Sorry

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Nice one.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Here's my nigthmare scenario's guys.

    1. Urlacher re-breaks his wrist on the 1st play from scrimage.

    2. Martz puts his career above the Bears organization and he wrecks Cutler's confidence by trying to showcase his ego instead of working with in our players skill sets.

    3. 1 or more of our starters get suspended for a banned substance in their wee wee.

    Just a few more thoughts from your harmless crazy uncle.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac. You're not a crazy uncle man. If you want to let some shit hang out go for it. Post whatever you want. Canada, I get where you're coming from but who cares in the end. We're all here to help each other get through another boring day at work.

    As long as it spurns discourse, you have my vote to bring what's you gots!

    Along those lines, this one's for you trac: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/glenn-beck-brian-urlacher-fox-news-neo-nazi-black-bears-the-root-99091039.html

    My God that man is a fucking mental midget. He and Palin should hang out and talk about the inquirer or some such drivel. I hope the Hurt Locker runs into that putz in a dark alley sometime soon and breaks him in half. Moron.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    OK MB I'll bite. Glenn Beck makes pertinent and accurate statements most of the times, but like us, he also has the uncanny ability screw the pooch from time to time as well. It all comes down to definitions and world views my friend.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ha! I knew I'd get you Trac!

    Yes, we most certainly disagree that he says anything accurate. I'm not a liberal Trac, I'm a commonsensative. The fear and rubbish that guys like him, palin, rush, etc... hurts the perception of the GOP

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Just realized I used Anyway 3 times... remind me not to interview Netanyahu anytime soon.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What would Aromashadu... Catch every fucking ball thrown to him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW_QD3i5iik&NR=1

    Boom!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thank God for the fucking Mute button

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Can I make this shirt up since I don't think anyone else will? I will get it done lol

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I am pretty sure..Our number one wideout will be Aromashodu. He might be number two till they realize that Hester can't do it. Aromashodu, Knox, Hester, Bennet. That is my starters..

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Do it!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Doin it already

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Excellent. Joe, you going to let us buy them through cafepress or something?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Danario Alexander

    Thought I'd try to give everyone a little background on this guy. I'm Mizzou grad, caught most of their games last season and during Alexander's career. When he came to Mizzou, he was actually ahead of Jeremy Maclin on the depth chart. As is usually the case with him, injuries slowed him considerably the first three years of his career. His senior season, he was unstoppable. Catching 113 balls for 1,781 yards and 14 touchdowns. He was by far the go to weapon for a sophomore QB starting his first season. He is a big receiver at 6-4...can use his size to catch deep passes in coverage. He also has deceptive speed. Numerous times last year he would catch a short pass and just blow by the entire defensive backfield. His long strides don't make him look like a burner, but once he gets going, no one can catch him. This speed and size made him a big play waiting to happen all of last season. I'd say his game reminds me of Randy Moss...not comparing them obviously, and college outcomes don't usually translate the same to the pros.

    The only real knock on the kid is the numerous knee injuries. An obvious red flag. I have no doubts in my mind that if he had had a healthy college career, he would have been better than Jeremy Maclin and been a high first round draft pick. IF the Bears take a flyer on him, it would be a risk...however, the reward could potentially be very high in a pass happy Martz offense. I'd be pleased if he got a shot with the Bears, but again, the knee issues are a pretty big concern.

    Here is a nice youtube of Alexander's senior season at Mizzou. Gives you a glimpse of his big play ability.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTDP19DFQjk

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    He's an undrafted free agent, won't cost us any picks to get him. He just has to beat out the other rooks for a roster spot. You can't tell me this guy isn't better that Inglasias or Rashied Davis. He's a beast!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Rashied is a made man. He's a wiseguy. Can't touch him. I'd sign that kid in a second and cut one of the smurfs loose.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Sheed polishes Lovie's stainless steel crapper each week in his office. I'm convinced of it.

    I mean, he's scrappy and all - but not THAT scrappy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    You sure that's all he's polishing?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Speaking of Lineman FQ, we should have gone after this guy.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/07/24/broncos-announce-signing-of-eric-olsen/

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    yep...ND always puts decent lineman in the NFL. DAMN we need a GM that knows wtf they're doing (where's Floyd Reese at)?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    +1

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Yup, we chose Pepe Le Peu instead of Olsen as I recall. We needed another 4 year project at QB.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Was reading the NFC North weekend mail bag and came up with the two statements made by Kevin Seifert:

    Kevin Seifert: Only Cutler can lower his interception total by making better decisions, but I'll make this prediction: Olsen will set a record for most catches by a tight end in a Martz offense.

    Kevin Seifert: I just think Martz is too smart to do anything but maximize Olsen's receiving skills.

    Heavens to Betsy, Jeff is doubling as Kevin Seifert.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    lmao now that was funny

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    and heavens to mercetroy eeeeeven! Trac.

    No sir... seifert, like many of his brethren... is just a total dbag. Sometimes I just can't believe that guys like him get PAID to do this.

    And wow, you

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He must be on Seifert's fantasy team.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Oh... you mean fantasy *football* team. Ah, right, got it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Man, this guy is just a complete mess. He needs real help: http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/07/24/dwight-gooden-reportedly-deserts-his-family/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    POS! I don't even think Stuart Smalley could help that guy.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Great article!

    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Why-do-highly-regarded-players-become-busts.html

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Read the comment about Butkus

  • In reply to Joseph:

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8193ef39/article/nfc-look-has-saints-cowboys-with-a-wealth-of-bluechippers

    "CHICAGO BEARS

    Blue-chip players: LB Lance Briggs and DE Julius Peppers.

    Red-chip players: TE Greg Olsen (receiving).

    Don't worry, Bears fans, this is not as bad as it looks in terms of talent on your team. The Bears clearly must get better performances from some of their high-price players. More than just Tommie Harris or Jay Cutler playing better, Chicago must improve the offensive line. By the way, I reluctantly put Olsen as a red tight end in part because I made the Jets' Dustin Keller a red in a similar role"

    Michael Lombari....you, sir, are a clown.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    If I read that correctly you have to be a top 15 guy at your position to be a red chipper. There are 15 better kickers than Gould? Bullshit. Bring in those pussies from dome teams and see how they do at Soldier Field. Also, there are 15 better MLB's than #54? Don't think so. Shanny is a top 5 coach? REALLY? I know these articles are all about stirring up interest but ...

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Thanks BD82. Nice avatar btw.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Bill Cowhers wife died. Wonder what his plans for the future are?
    http://www.comcast.net/articles/sports-nfl/20100724/NFL-Cowher-Wife/

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    Man that's horrible. I can't even imagine losing my wife that young. RIP.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I guess we now know why Cowher took some time away from coaching.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I don't think he will want to coach for awhile now.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    No way, he will come out or retirement, mark my words. A man like him will go crazy without his work to keep him occupied.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    if Lovie gets canned, expect him to coach this team.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I do and I do FQ. Please 8lb baby Jebus.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Suck it much Childress?: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/207631-childress-favres-in-good-shape-physically?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

    Oh, and nice hat you goofy dbag.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Every time I see him all I can think of is him dressing in drag and playing stewardess on one of their plane charters after a game. The image was frightening. Dbag indeed!

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    that truly sucks man. RIP Mrs. Cowher.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    I am so excited and pumped for the NFL to start. I need to put my energy to good use. Do you guys know how I can find a good fantasy league? I started playing fantasy football 2 years ago, but the community sucked. And there is no one in Norway playing fantasy football. So I

  • In reply to skjaeveland:

    There are two DBB FFLs going right now I believe NB. Talk to Trac, aaaaand.... Irish?

  • In reply to skjaeveland:

    The ESPN setup is the best I've seen, Norway. I'm sure we'll get some more leagues going as the season approaches.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    sounds good to me. Can't wait to destroy you guys with some good old-fashioned beginners luck :D

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Odds of making the Bears squad:

    Shabba - In
    Hester - In
    Knox - In
    Iglesias - 5:1
    Danario Alexander - 12:1
    Scrappy Sheed - 7:1
    Freddie Barnes - 15:1
    Earl Bennett - 6:1

    Bennett has to really show up at camp. His injury plus the fact he has no breakaway ability means he's gotta show up on special teams, where Scrappy has already made a name for himself. I think he may be the surprise cut of 2010. Danario and Barnes will probably fight for that last spot, but if both of them show something at camp and Bennett doesn't, then I could see both of them staying.

    For the RBs, I think Brandon Minor sends Bell packing. Wolfe may not make the cut, in favor of the Samoan Sandwich. Minor is apparently fearless and a head knocker, if he can show up on teams then Smurf leaves camp with Bennett or Barnes.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Did I miss something ? We signed Alexander ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Ah, okay, implied odds ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    http://www.chicitysports.com/forum/chicago-bears-forum/3109-great-read-bears.html

    good read toward the Matt Forte haters. if there are Bears fans hating on him, they have got to be retarded. although Joyner's wrong a/b his assessment in Ced Benson...dude is a dick. fuck Ced.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I never understood the hating on Forte. I'd suggest to people who do so to whack their MCL against a concrete wall until it's sufficiently injured and then go play running back for an NFL team who don't give a crap if you're "sore", "if you can walk you can play ..." etc.

    Ed Reed just recently came out and said the same thing. He was brought back too soon last year, clearly against his better judgement and wishes - and he's hardly a pussy.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That blogger didn't even mention the MCL or the fact that Forte had a hamstring problem ON THE SAME LEG. That's two pretty relevant points to leave out when discussing a running back's performance.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    very, but you know the 4-letter network....95% of those pussies are nutjobs who don't know shit a/b the sports they're covering.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    What do you mean FQ... Wasn't John Clayton an NFL linebacker? BAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA....

    ok, sorry, couldn't even complete that joke with a straight face.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Actually, I believe Professor Ponytail came up thru the ranks at ESPN. Via the MAKE-UP department.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA.. Very nice Al, very nice.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Tank McNamara from Sunday...

    http://www.uclick.com/client/spi/tm/2010/07/25/index.html

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The butt of 2010 jokes all year long

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    OchoCinco and TO?

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/07/st-louis-rams-cincinnati-bengals-bid-for-wr-terrell-owenss-services/1

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Ouch.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Saw that GP. Pisses me off that other teams are willing to do what it takes to get better, while we draft fucking Dan le pew. Jebus H Christo, can bill cowher please get here faster.

    Also, I love the attempt to play off his completel lack of understanding of the situation, and his obvious douchbaggery, as

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What if RW knew Dez's Mom MB? Just sayin.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Couldn't happen to a better team (unless it was the Queens). Man, did Millen get over on Jerry Baby on that trade!! I've hated Williams ever since I read an article where he was bragging about being so cheap he won't tip the pizza delivery guy. It's bad enough to be that fuckin' cheap when you're rich, but to brag about it? I hope he ends up broke the Fuck Head.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    At least Major Wright didn't fall down the fucking stairs sleepwalking, the Ravens Lewis needs to slap this kid around.

    Roy boy is not very popular in Poketown. Dez is expected to take his starting spot, he's been a malcontent and a bit of a cancer (as much as Jerry will allow).

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Roy Williams is the biggest douche to ever put on an NFL uniform. If it were anybody else, I would say carry the pads but I would have told Roy W. to fuck off. The guys a lazy turd p.o.s

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You *so* beat me to it, Canada. I'm not even sure the Queens are more deserving than "America's Team".

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This guy was a "real" punk MB. And he wasn't that young either.

    http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/07/15/wasted-former-nfl-rb-travis-henry-sentenced-to-3-years-in-prison-for-cocaine-trafficking/

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think Marvin Lewis' dream team is the Mean Machine from Longest Yard.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Yep, plenty to go around Trac.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The blogger also re-watched EVERY game last year, and graded out the run blocking quality on each Forte carry. He really is the scientist.

    And he found what we all knew: half the time Forte was getting hit either behind or right at the scrimmage line. Combined with his lack of leg strength, he was toast.

    Everything comes down to Tice's work this year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Everyone hates him because he didn't live up to his fantasy position.

    Yep, GP, we better hope he does good.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I have to disagree GP, unless Bennett shows serious drop-off from his injury I'd be shocked if he got let go. Despite what some people here say (Irish!), I personally really like Bennett and think he's a super solid guy that makes catches when called upon. And he

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bennett's definitely number four. A little worried that he missed out a year because he couldn't get with the program though. The playbook is bigger now, everything's called something else. I can't see what he brings to the table. He's not fast or smart, so that leaves hands. My point is, if a guy is just hands, then he'd better be 6'4 and built like Conan. The barbarian, not O'Brien.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Everything I've read says Bennett is the best route runner of the bunch. That's key in Martz's system. For a minute I thought you were banging the drum for Conan O'Brien. That's taking the tall thing way too far.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I am sure that Conan O'Brien got some football moves. and what a great end zone celebration the string dance would be!

  • In reply to skjaeveland:

    to my big surprise I found out that the string dance already have been used as an end zone celebration. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35og1Ha1q8Q

  • In reply to skjaeveland:

    Woo-Hoo!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It would have been Walter Payton's Birthday today, Happy Birthday Sweetness!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    HBD Walter... you're still very loved.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    God needed his best running back for something. Happy birthday Walter.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    The Zen of Larry Mayer .... this guy is incredible - he should run for Congress. No one has quite perfected the art of not answering a question like Larry. Jebus.

    "I followed Bears fullback Eddie Williams

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    who hired this clown? Jerry? when Jerry gets fired (hopefully soon, but not at the sacrifice of this season), the first order of business should be to fire Mayer

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Lovie first FQ, lovie first.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    We need to sign a petition on behalf of Jeff. He would do a stellar job filling the position FQ.

    P.s. As long as he doesn't field any Olsen questions.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Hows this for our season opening thread Jeff?

    Bears mount frontal assault on NFC North. Can the Packer and Viking keep pace?

    Singular was on purpose.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I agree about the crappy blocking but Joyner can post all the stats he wants, Forte had no burst last year. No doubt he was hurt but he wasn't making anyone miss and wasn't out running anyone. Ced's got talent but what a jackass. Everything I've read this year says Forte has his burst back. Boo-Ya!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    maybe you didn't read what irish said before. let's recap:

    MCL INJURY & HAMSTRING PROBLEM ON THE SAME LEG!!!!

    let's look up the uses of both of these muscles

    MCL (also known as Medial Collateral Ligament) - The MCL and the LCL work together with ACL and the PCL to keep the knee joint stable during movement. The MCL and LCL provide support at the inner and outer aspects of the knee while the ACL and the PCL lend support at the center of the knee.

    (meaning that without the MCL, you wouldn't be able to move your knee & be susceptible to that nasty "arthritis")

    Hamstring - bringing the heel toward the buttocks (running), to hip extension, which moves the leg backward (juking). The hamstring also slows the shin during rapid movement.

    now imagine both of these injuries on ONE LEG!!!! Felix Jones had a hammy injury and sat out the whole season and he wasn't even the feature back; imagine having to practice AND play a full 16 games with this. and he STILL ran for 929+ yards w/ 471 receiving. this w/ a shitty O-Line. you get some burst w/ that man....

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    *post edit

    that happened to Felix his rookie season. and he played 6 games. S-I-X.

    (this site needs an "edit post" button badly)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Forte was seen wearing this shirt today, so watch out

    http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/12/2010/07/be41e33c15f8742c655dcbad7d520a66/340x.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I saw that same graphic on a van back in the 70's GP. I'd also love to find a glow int he dark felt 'painting' of that for my man-cave. Hmmmm.... I think I need to go to the swapmeet this weekend.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I wasn't hating on Forte. I know he was dinged up all year. My point was Joyner was saying Forte was the same last year when he got decent blocking. He clearly wasn't the same. Really looking forward to seeing him this year. NFL RB's are beyond tough and have nothing to prove. Most people couldn't take the pounding from a half-assed practice let alone a real game.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    o ok...my apologies sir

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FQ, you are a good man my friend. Love that Bear Down spirit.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    No need to apologize. I wasn't very clear in the previous post. I rarely hate on a Bear unless they are complete jackasses (Cadester) or head cases that only play when they want (Tommie). Even in Tommie's case I only rip on him when he does something really stupid (The Fumble), getting kicked out in the first five minutes or games when he doesn't show up.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I found some rare footage of Irish on the way to work.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DyUUjsonDE

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The guy in the vid had clothes on, Trac, but yeah, that is how I ride my bike ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hahaha that's some funny shit

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'll get in some reps. We have a chance to go 10-6 this year. However, with bad luck due to injuries we could easily go 6-10. If the OL comes together the O could be the best we've seen since the '80's. If the OL sucks, we'll be like a souped up Terry Shea Offense. YIKES!

    On D, if we stay relatively healthy, we should be better. If we can just get off the field on 3rd downs (esp 3rd and long) we'll be much better.

    ST's will rock as always.

    Let's hope for 10-6!!!!!!!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Unfortunately Canada, 10-6 may not cut it this year. Minny, Peckers, Da Bears, C-Boys, Saints, Falcons, Zona, Giants, .....you get the picture.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    As long as we give it to the Fudgers and the Queens in those four games, 10-6 will be sweet. And we will give it to them ... right up the old pie-chute.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Marinelli is a shit coach.There, I said it. The players may all like him, because he's old and gray and cantankerous and funny. Maybe he cracks a mean Polish joke. But, in the end, he's the guy at the helm for the Lions 0-16 season.

    How the fuck is 0-16 possible? You have to find ways to lose. When the going gets tough, the not tough quit? No way do I let a guy who was HC for an 0-16 season on my squad. He reeks of FAIL.

    On the Bears front, he didn't get any more out of Harris than any other DL coach would have. He was still butter, soft in the heat and his usual headcase self, just preachin the gospel to his sheep and looking for the lemonade stand. Only Wale and AB's professionalism, and Harrison and Adams desire to breakout for new contracts kept a motor on that line. Anderson? Pffffft.

    So, I agree. I worry about Marinelli as DC. He's got nothing. He makes Ron Turner look like a genius. He's fucking Mister Magoo.

    So, I'm not optimistic. I hope Pisa and C. Harris and others shore up, and since he's running the Lovie Cover-2 right from the textbook, I think unless Peppers shuts down pocket after pocket, we're going be as predictable as the taste of Campbells soup.

    Maybe McNabb's mama can make us all a bowl now....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The Bears last year played exactly like a 7-9 team is supposed to play, average. The defense was average to below average, the offense was middle of the road. Injuries to Pisa and Urlacher didn't help either.

    Alex Brown, Wale...both average guys. The o-line was average and the running game sucked balls and still, a couple of plays and we could have been 9-7 or 10-6. Peppers should make everybody around him 1-3 sacks better. Our LB's are healthy again and our secondary still blows. Our defense still should be a top 15 Defense this year with just a couple of additions and healthy LB's.

    Historically a Martz led offense turns into a top 10 offense right out of the gate. The o-line still scares me since the only upgrade they brought in was a 290 pound TE. We upgraded the RB position with Taylor and Unga.

    They didn't upgrade at WR which is not a shocker to me. 2nd year for Cutty behind center should help his confidence. Not to mention Jay ended the season on a high note.

    This team *should* be 2-3 games better than last year. If not, back up the dumpster at Halas Hall because Angelo and company will be cleaning out their offices by the following Monday.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Alot of football careers on this Team may very well be over if the Bears don't make the playoffs. If a new coach comes on board, all of Lovies wonder boys that are on the bubble will be gone. My nose tells me not to under estimate this team because I happen to think that if there ever was a year to overachieve, this upcoming season is the one our team will. Look to see the Bears come out of the gate swinging and I definitely think 12-4 will happen. Your heard it here gents, my nose never lies.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    +1
    But this is feeling a lot like Groundhog day. Technically, on paper, we should be a lot better, 3-4 games easily. But the two X-factors loom large : Lovie and injuries.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    SICK video of Johhny Knox:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYjDn2icWKI

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Great post Joseph. What a bargain Knox turned out to be for a 5th rounder huh? The blind squirrel strikes again.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Not drinking the Kool aid on Knox until he gets with the program on route running and beefs up a little downstairs. Starting him with Hester at one and two will NOT help Cutler.

    If T.O. signs with Cincinatti and you turn off the electrical appliances in your homes, you will hear me swearing from the other side of the planet, I kid you not. If he hasn't signed with an obviously desperate owner, then someone else must be in the shake-up. I just hope Jerry Banjo grows a pair and pulls the trigger on this ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Waffle coming in with the cooler full of Bears Drank because i am not liking this pessimism.
    I feel like spiking your Bears Drank with poison like Jim Jones or pulling a #16, complete with duct tape, some sort of lube, part of an old goal post from bourbonais and some oxycontin on some of you bastards. 11-5 is the number. The couple days leading up to the season are like the "in between" rounds of the drinking game Asshole. The Asshole can tell anyone to drink anything they want. I don't need to hear that we will be 6-10 or 7-9 or in a perfect world 9-7. Fuck that noise. If we make it through camp and the pre-season without Bowman tearing his arm in half, steltz impaling tillman again, Urlacher and Briggs not getting anyone on the team pregnant, Harris' trick knee in decent condition, the WR's fairly confident in their routes, Cutty healthy, Pisa healthy, Rashied not in the starting lineup, DA in the starting lineup, Knox and Hester with fully stretched and loose hammy's and Peppers in the mood to fuck dudes up, then we will be 11-5. If we don't go 11-5 or at least make the playoffs i will voluntarily give my home address and work hours to #16 so he can cut me into tiny pieces and feast on me while watching NFL films greatest follies.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    lube and oxycontin? Sounds like a party!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Appalachia style

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Just don't piss on my wife's shoes. She's a wildcat if you make her mad!!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    HA! great memory!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I've got a good memory for funny stuff and that was hilarious. Otherwise, I tell everyone I have Irish alzheimers, the only thing I can remember are my grudges. Boo-Yay!

    Really looking forward to camp. I can remember how bummed out we were when Mikey blew the hiring of McGuiness. Not that he was a great coach but because we found out later Martz was coming with him. He's kind of damaged goods because he failed in Detroit and S.F. He improved their O's but the teams still lost. There was no talent on the Detroit roster and the QB's in S.F were brutal. If the OL plays well this is going to be fun!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Gentlemen.

    4 days till camp and this is the paltry pace we

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's the calm before the storm MB.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    The Martz-Kitna Lions had a force in Roy E back then. He was a force, a guy who split the seams very well, and was perhaps the best sideline route runner in the last 10 years. He had everything, an ability to use his big body to screen out the corner on the slant, he was a goal line force, and his endzone abilities were top notch.

    Look at the catches here, they are almost all from the Martz-Kitna Lions:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCmK8_Kp_eM&feature=related

    His sideline endzone catch at 3:58 verges on unstoppable. I don't know if Champ Bailey in his prime could stop that route from working every time, as long as the team had a QB who could put it in there.

    There are a couple Joey throws in there, but Kitna really had Big E's #. At 6min in, when it gets to Dallas lowlights - he just doesn't look like the same player anymore. His routes don't look crisp, he looks soft and his wheels have fallen off.

    I'm trying to come up with a wideout with that much talent who fell that far that fast. I'm struggling for a name.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Here is who Shabba, Hester and Knox face on opening day:

    Lions Secondary:

    Chris Houston, ex-Falcon, circa '07 - 3 yr starter, Falcons didn't seem too upset to let him go. All they got for him was a 6th rounder.

    Amari Spivey, the Lions version of Daniel Manning. Fast wheels, mental midget.

    John Wade - Tennessee guy. 3rd rounder. Rams let him go.

    Dre Bly - Back from the Niners. Big mouth, at 33 he may have something left, maybe not.

    Safeties are Ko Simpson - whose off to a journeyman's career outta Buffalo and the one guy they have who is better than any Bear in the secondary: Louis Delmas.

    Delmas is a tough safety. I'd trade Alfalfa, Anti-Plank, Major Pain and throw in Manning for Delmas, he's a quality player and better than anything the Bears have.

    Overall, I'd say a secondary with a lot of problems, some athletes but also no team chemistry. They will need to be coached and coached hard, and I think we know that they will see matchups they haven't schemed for, despite whatever films come out of the pre-season.

    I think the Bears should be able to make hay out of the Lions, given that Suh probably won't show anytime soon, and may not even be ready, and the OL should give Cutty time to pick these journeymen apart.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    We shall see GP, we shall see.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I'm not a huge Rome/Jungle fan, but there is one bit that makes my smile whenever I hear it. The Marcus "OJ Lite" Allen letters. The joke on the Jungle is that callers write in emails and sign them as players/celebs. Like "Dear Jim, I am still looking for the real killers. Signed OJ."

    My favorite are the Allen letters. Allen alwyas says the most obvious things as a broadcaster, and they rip him for it.

    "Dear Jim,
    For the Raiders to win this week, they will need to score the most points. Signed, Marcus Allen."

    That's what I think of when I read Larry the Tool.

  • In reply to iamndmurff:

    R.I.P.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Check the kid's arm out at 1:47.

    His catch at 6:20 is most impressive. He leaves the entire KSU secondary eating dust.

    This kid sends Iglasias packing, I think.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    saw that GP, kid's got a rocket too. Let's get the kid into camp and give him a shot.

    Yes, Irish 6'4"... and 221

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I like the catch just before that one better, the way he spins out of a tackle.

    Need to keep this kid Barnes though ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw0a-5xV--w&feature=related

    And Greg Matthews and Antonio Robinson are both 6'3 - hope we get a good look at them in camp. Rashied is 31 years old, if we dump him and Iglesias we can keep Barnes and one of the tall guys. Not too keen on Hester and Knox both being on the field at the same time. Not much of a chance for YAC there unless they catch it at full stretch down the sidelines.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    He looks great. I loved the "The good , the bad ,and the ugly" music in that video...made it more badass lol

  • In reply to gpldan:

    RE: Freddy Barnes and the vid Irish posted:

    He looks pretty good in that highlight vid Irish

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I read he ran a 4.6 40 MB. But regardless, he is definitely not a burner but he is an excellent route runner with great hands which will come in handy when the weather turns cold. The quote below pretty much sums up your points above.

    Following Barnes

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    height is irrelevant for WR's. Skill is what is important

    Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, Donald Driver, Greg jennings, Chad Johnson, Santonio Holmes, Hines Ward, etc, etc, etc.

    There are more of these types of guys 6'0 and under who are straight ballers than there are Andre Johnson, Randy Moss and Brandon Marshall types

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Height does add another dimension to a WR but it is not a mandatory requirement. I could think of some colorful analogies but I would prefer to keep it to football.

    That was for you Canada. Ooooohraaah.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Sure, you're just saying that ...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I don't know Johnny, if you're taller (6'3/6'4) then you stretch the field, period. You can shield out those smaller DBs, out jump them, run over people etc. Look at the modern emerging elite receivers like Brandon Marshall - he's a marked man but still snags over a hundred balls a year. Double-teamed but he caught over 20 passes in one game last year. Hard to do that when you're a small guy. Guys like Steve Smith (CAR) are the exception to the rule, but lose a step and you're history. All the guys you mentioned had very quiet years for example, with the exception of maybe Wayne with 10 TDs, Ochocinco with 9. Once their speed is gone they don't have much left to offer, they become small possession receivers. I'll take an Andre or a Brandon over two midgets any day. They're harder to cover, harder to bring down, they stretch the field ... no way is height irrelevant.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Well done Irish. +1

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    no doubt that 6'4 230 is a sick combo for receiver. But there are more 5'11 to 6'1 receivers in the league that actually do shit than there are 6'4 230. Maybe that will change over the next couple of years but as of now if a receiver has talent they will catch the ball. if we need to rely on jump balls and luck like Orton did last year in Denver then we are fucked whether we have height or not.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    At 3pm Central time, it will be exactly 4 days til training camp MB. Let the games begin!

    On Freddie Barnes:

    Following Barnes

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I take that back, 5 days. Back to bed I go

  • In reply to Joseph:

    i hope Barnes works out. That is the best thing about the NFL. sometimes the guys who shine the brightest were the ones ignored by other team, the ones who took a couple of years to come into their own, the ones that the scouts said would never make it, the ones that are too short, too slow, too small, too many injuries,etc. The one thing that makes football the best sport on the planet is the heart of the players. The sacrifices that the players are willing to make for each other and for the team. Here's to the Pisa's, the Freddie Barnes, the London Fletchers, the Sam Mills, the Chuck Cecils, the no name 6th rounders that fly down the field on kickoffs just to make a spot on the team, the practice squad guys that people call bums but in reality are elite athletes that put us to shame and all of the rest of the pieces of the NFL that make us love the game so much. 5 day until this whole ship starts sailing. This is the best time of the year and the Bears have alot of reasons that be optimistic that with a couple of bounces in our direction we get into the playoffs...and Boys, anything can happen in the playoffs. Bear theeee fuck down

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +Ooooooooooone!

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Check his pro day results 3rd post down. 4.67 and 4.7. Ouch.

    From what I saw on that highlight vid, his size, and obviously his video game numbers, the only worry I have about this kid is his speed Joe. Like the guy you quoted said, speed isn't everything

  • In reply to Joseph:

    btw, hope everyone is ok: http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/25/chicago.area.floods/index.html?hpt=T2

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Idiot: http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/207911-glenn-beck-apologizes-for-calling-urlacher-neo-nazi

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The dreaded double post. Darn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Valid points MB, but like Joseph says ... kid's got hands and he doesn't hear footsteps, Tom Waddle style.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Our country has long ago been hijacked by the Politicians. The GOP and the DEMS are one in the same. I don't rely or depend on any man, political affiliation or TV host for my source of information MB. You would be wise to do the same. Specially considering where this lot of politicians are trying to take us.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXR1xgNSvc0&feature=related

    wow. and Irish, if you drop down the box, i think he personally challenged you and the nation of Ireland.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Cutler under threw Shabba on that first throw. The original poster is a douche.

    Peppers kinda looks like Frankenstein

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/photos/lounging-in-the-den-continuing-our/926374

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    What a douche. He's got all that Olsen footage to choose from, and he picks shabba. I mean, the guy has a single video posted on youtube, and he's having a go at our best receiver. WHo cares if you fall down ... and you're in the endzone.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    That guy is a moron. He's clueless.... lack of speed and football skills?

    First play was badly underthrown, which allowed the double team that he had smoked to catch up.

    Second play, cutty threw him that ball in the middle of a group of 4 defenders.

    That guy is an idiot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Do not make the mistake that I am defending or am in lockstep with Beck. I'm just saying I don't disagree with everything he says. Anyone that believes they get to run their own little planet after they die and when they do that for 500 years they get to take the place of Jesus cannot be considered of sound mind. But, like you have said on more than one occasion MB, even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in while.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Beck is a zit on the ass of popular culture. He does a disservice to the discourse in this country by his conspiracy theorist, fear-mongering, anti-intellectual butchering of any book his staff reads for him. Trac, as a Christian, how do you reconcile his Ayn Rand love? Because she absolutely hated Christians and thought love for your fellow man was slovenly and stupid. No offense, I just don't get how you take someone seriously who purveys to his junk-food brand of "journalism".

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Mike, it is a distinct possibility that truth can be found by those who seek it, and yet remain hidden to those who are dumb on purpose.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    So what would be the point of watching him? He is the most assiduously "dumb on purpose" man on television.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    When it comes to Mormonism I would definitely have to agree with you on that on Mike. It took me years to figure out the game plan of the politicians and Entertainment business. Just make sure the foundation you stand on is rock solid my friend.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    If you can sort the wheat from the chaff, you'll be OK. The game now is that there's so much chaff, it's a full time job just figuring out what's real, much less making philosophical judgements about it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    As Irish would say, nail on the head Mike, nail on the head.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Low risk high reward guy:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0724-bits-bears-chicago--20100723,0,2999486.story

    and:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ1EES5pCGQ&feature=related

  • In reply to Joseph:

    6'4", 221, 4.41 40.

    Holy cripes yes please Joe! Can you make this happen by camp please.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Did someone say 6'4 ....?

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Yeah but if the guy is really any good someone else will snatch him up. And if we do grab him, the politics of the Bears front office would keep him off the field until

  • In reply to Joseph:

    4 knee surgeries.. umm I don't know about that.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Maybe he was just having moles removed...I dunno.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Wow, didn't read that... but if dude can still run a 4.41? I say give the dude his own pro day and see how the knees do.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    "look at that little guy being poured into a frosty glass. that cute little chipmunk got worked over pretty good."

    ~ Johnny Waffle

    Don's be sad Johnny, he's doing something much, much more valuable with his life now. And as far his new look... fabulous.

    I believe that was the exact expression the little guy had in his last moments. RIP little guy.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I often sleep at night wondering..will it all work. Can all the pieces come together. The number 3, I'm not so worried about.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/photos/lounging-in-the-den-continuing-our/926375

    I bet we see this a lot.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Hey, whatta know, I found the greatest INT in NFL history.

    It's primetime and it's at 2:21 here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SpqVPukyX4&feature=related

    What makes it so great? Irvin at the time was considered the best deep weapon the Pokes had. And Sanders just owned him the entire day. On that route, it's not easy to see on this replay and it's not at full speed it's slow mo - but what happens is primetime bites on the out move and Irvin gets past him. Again, this is not the best replay of the pic, but Irvin has a good three steps on him. This is Toast Patterson burnt we're talking about here.

    Deion reaches down and finds a gear that I didn't think other humans had, and literally catches and runs around Irvin and dives and picks the ball off. Aikman laid it WAY out there, and Irvin is going full steam for this ball and Deion caught him and ran PAST him and dove, and caught the ball.

    Every other corner in the NFL would have been burnt and Irvin would have been overthrown for an Incomplete.

    I'm sure there are others, Vasher had a couple great ones, but most of them involve jumping the route like the Saints in the Super Bowl against Manning. I'm sure if I go through the Revis videos there are some great ones, but that one is still #1 for me.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Revis is a baaaaad man. Serious instincts... he doesn't have the raw skill and raw speed of Neon, but the man can play corner like no one else. Very, very impressive.

    Oh, and nice pick Deon.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    This guy is bad ass too

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCXEPACqhHk&feature=related

  • In reply to gpldan:

    He most certainly is GP... but if you look at both of their stats side by side from last year it's not even close.

    Although NA shut down people like crazy, he only had ONE INT last year. Revis had, what, 6 and 2 or 3 were returned for TDs? Revis is on a level all by himself right now in my mind.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    All you had to do was run at him.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    More drama from Narcissus. Now HE'S 'cheesed" at Men's Journal for the article. Quote "You can't trust anybody" Unquote.

    OHHH RIGHT! Said the POT to the KETTLE!

    JUST when you think this guy can't be any more annoying, he surprises you.

    http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2010/07/brett_favre_che.php

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Narcissus tells us that he must endure the knife, but never fear because he has faced down worse pain. Our hero!

    http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/49503524-77/ankle-favre-surgery-return.html.csp

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thats frikkin" hilarious!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Wow! Be careful with that shit! I got into some Rumplemintz (50% alcohol) and had a hangover for 3 days. Of course, I was already bombed before I tied into the Rumple. Rumplemintz is peppermint schnapps. The extreme alcohol content takes some of the sweetness out of it. It's awesome in limited amounts. Mixed with Jager it's trouble on the run.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Canada - that was my drink in college. 3 shots of rumpleminze on ice. it was called "the closer" because once i was done with it i was sure to black out but my breath was super minty fresh which resulted in a surprising number of zany bedroom encounters that i didn't remember...i pee'd on the shoes of a girl that my roommate was hooking up with. The impressive part was that i was on the top bunk of a makeshift king size bunk bed that we constructed and was laying on my side peeing into her shoes that were a good 5 feet away as we all sang "Playa Hater" from the Notorious BIG.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    awesome. Pictures?

    ...of the bed, not your wizzle stick.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hilarious!! My stories would be a lot funnier if they were about some other drunken fool. I haven't had a drink in 16+ years and Rumple definitely had something to do with it.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    +1

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Bring me the head of Ron Turner.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    ...and some of your finest meats and cheeses.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Even his own AGENT says he's a "Drama Queen". (Buzz Cook -Men's Journal).

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    There was a time I really used to root for Farve (especially when we were knocking him on his ass and enjoying it!). And he pulled the injured shoulder crap last year and waited till the last minute to get it fixed..and still almost pulled off a SB appearance. This year with the ankle it's the same crap and what really pisses me off with a 6 mos or more break you get the ankle fixed for the sake of the team to show your team that your ready to compete...but not Brett...here we go again. This ASSHOLE doesn't give a shit about any team he plays for...it's all about him.
    Whatever respect I had for him is gone...and he really doesn't deserve a HOF spot either cause this is a team sport...and he only cares about himself. I don't like to wish bad things on anyone (always seems to come back to me and bite me on the ass!) but it's gone beyond being one of the best and he can still get out there with the big dogs and show us how it's done to: just being a plain self centered ASSHOLE. Hopefully what ever dignity he has left will convince him to retire...if not...take him out boys!!!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If you use Firefox, here's a Chicago Bear's skin (or 'persona' ...ex-squeeze me!)

    Just click on it and your browser Bears down.

    http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/139653

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Hoo-ra! With you all the way on Cutty, FQ. I wouldn't swap him for any QB in the league. Manning is a pussy (elder that is, junior just sucks). Brees is too small. Romo's over-rated. Rivers is a doosh. McNabb makes bad decisions. Schaub isn't Cutty.

    A little more finesse, throw it into the bleachers 4 or 5 times a game, and he'll win us a superbowl. He'll be fine ... if we can find some guys taller than 4'2 for him to throw it at.

    And Mr. Kreutz ... shut your piehole and ride the pine, you don't have the right to talk like that when everyone else is carrying your schoolbooks. Sit down, shut up, take your paycheck and we'll let you know when you're cut. Game over sunshine. Game over.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Damn! Urlacher be The Man, a roaring great Bear !
    Peppers be silent, calm and aware,

    Briggs bring dat hammer, often and hard,
    Boy dat boy Adams be one ton o'lard!

    Peanut will strip, but strip it from who ?
    You know Pisa be gone by the end of week two.

    Born again Tommie, all lost at sea,
    Gone are his knees by the end of week three!

    O Hunter, my Hunter ! Save our Brian from woe!
    Get thee hence from the Mike, cos man do you blow ...

    Chris Harris strong safety ! He hits like a wrench!
    No matter he dies, there's ten more on the bench.

    He cost us J Williams, but don't shed a tear ....
    O Captain ! My Captain ! Urlacher's here.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That was awesome you crazy bastard!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    jebust H Christ Irish... you are on fucking FIRE today my man.

    200 points.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, Fridays are slow in the office ... checking out the Bears blogs ... fantasising about bending the sticker girl over the photo copy machine. Twenty two more minutes to a drug/alcohol/sex free weekend. Somebody shoot me.

    I want Bill Murray's life.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jQgl9NS9A0&feature=related

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Oh, it hasn't even started yet... wait till you two little ones arive. Boo Yah!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    +250

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I wish I could express how excited I am for this season to begin. My wife and I finally moved into our new house in May, and my new media room holds a 1080P projector on 103 inches of viewing awesomeness. That, coupled with the NFL Sunday Ticket makes the sun shine a little brighter for this diehard Bears fan in Dallas. I'm livin' the dream, that can only be topped by the resurrection of my Mighty Monsters in 2010. I'm predicting 12-4, top 5 defense and at the very least a berth in the NFC title game. The only drawback to that kind of season would be the tenure it would earn LDL. Alas, I'd take it for that kind of run.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Who the hell wouldn't?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    You been smokin' those buckets Trac ?

  • Ohh btw..just made a bet with my roommate which you all should know is a Steeler fan. The bet..if T.O becomes a Steeler, he has to buy the T.O Steeler jersey, if the Bear's sign T.O, I have to buy a T.O Bear jersey.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Your Mom's a Steeler fan ? That sucks Artoo.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    hee hee

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    ha ha ha lol no I do live on my own.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    My mom is from Chicago and my real dad is from Minnesota. Entire family on my mom's side are Bear fans and on my dad's side they are all Viking fans.. Always hated my dad and when I found out he was a Viking fan..priceless.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I'm gonna call Illegal Procedure on myself Artoo. Reducing it to Moms. Five yards. Repeat the down.

    Sorry about the Queens in the bloodline there ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hey..at least I choose the better team

  • WR's: Olsen in the slot, Knox, Hester with DA waiting in the wings for another injury to one of our starters.
    1. Anderson wins and will be the hands down starter.
    2. Safety? Not even Lovie knows yet. Take your pick.
    3, Pepper's will show Tommie how to be a man.
    4. We shall see who wants to win and suck it up through the aches and pains during the course of the season.
    5. Lovie will still be Lovie. Nothing new here except some healthy players to bail him out this year.
    6. Ask #16.
    7. Soon Doc, Soon. Before you know it, the season will be over again. Football is way to short of a season.

  • As long as Izzy doesn't get his mojo drained by the bird on the boat, he could be put back inside as nickle tackle .... along with the human bowling ball that is Double A, Butters, Peppers & the Man from Atlantis. Throw in Pool Guy as a dime tackle and we have one motley crew of linemen from a moniker-related perspective.

    The Steel Curtain. The purple people eaters. We need a name for that line if we're going to win another Superbowl ...

    The "No-Name" defense ...
    The Nickname Line ...
    The "Where's Tommie at?" defense ...
    The "You seen Tommie?" defense ...
    The "Damn, he was here a minute ago" Line ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The Chicago Bombers.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The Bruise Brothers

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Jay says we will see a "Totally different attitude offensively". I watched it twice and get the sense he really believes it. He's just not talking the company line. What do you guys think?

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/07/qb-cutler-totally-different-attitude-offensively.html

  • In reply to mikev:

    He's a gunslinger with an OC that loves slinging guns. He is 100% in this system and he knows they are going to be aggressive.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    This year will have as many long passes thrown since Willie Gault and Dennis McKinnon teamed up.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Historical apologies to the Erik Kramer led Bears, which were the Chicago version of Air Coryell. Marcus Robinson was the best wideout at the time, equal to the Curtis Conway flyer under Wanny.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I did like Marcus. Guy caught the damn ball as I remember.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    DBB Trivia time:

    Let's do some blastin' from the past and watch a truly potent Bears air attack - the Kramer Bears.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1_Wz1Gw4Ls

    I believe we got Wayne 'You Fucking Traitor' Larravee doing the WBBM play by play there, but who shouts out "And Curtis (something) the block!" at 12 seconds in?

    Note: I don't know the answer here. My first guess was Bortz, but it doesn't sound like him. It's not Hub, not Hamp. I forget who was in the booth back then. DBB?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1_Wz1Gw4Ls

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It's that douchebag Hub. I was so glad when they got rid of him. I don't mind a guy being a homer as long as he's up front about it. Hub always acted like he was impartial and then smoked every pole in the Bears Org every chance he got. Of course, when he was canned he's been bitchy ever since. Oh well.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-brian-urlacher-bears-photos,0,1021527.photogallery

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Get ready for more of the same this yuear bitch: http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-brian-urlacher-bears-photos,0,1021527.photogallery

    Btw, always tripped me out that guys like Lac and The Ice Man aren't super built and ripped (like a cheick congo), but they are just great athletes. Interesting to see.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry, meant: http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2009-09/49243684.jpg

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, you don't realize how fucking huge Urlacher is until you stand next to him at a shitty Elgin riverboat casino blackjack table with his trashy hot ex wife sitting next to him. He had just been drafter and when hunched over the table the width of this back was a couple of feet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, you don't realize how fucking huge Urlacher is until you stand next to him at a shitty Elgin riverboat casino blackjack table with his trashy hot ex wife sitting next to him. He had just been drafter and when hunched over the table the width of this back was a couple of feet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, you don't realize how fucking huge Urlacher is until you stand next to him at a shitty Elgin riverboat casino blackjack table with his trashy hot ex wife sitting next to him. He had just been drafter and when hunched over the table the width of this back was a couple of feet.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i saw Urlacher at the Elgin casino when he was first drafted. i was hammered at a blackjack table and i was with 3 of my buddies. i turned to look at this hot, trashy blonde with this fucking enormous dude. He was hunched over the table and the width of his back is insane. His neck was thicker than Major Wright's cock. it was Urlacher...the newly drafted outside linebacker of the Chicago Bears. he is a monster.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    did i mention i saw Urlacher at the casino?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    How big was his back, JWC?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Grand Victoria!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Grand Victoria!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Man I miss football.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    i just had a thought regarding our defense. I have this weird feeling that Mark Anderson is going to come out this year like an absolute maniac. Now, it is virtually guaranteed that he will break contain about 40 percent of the time, is the only guy that still falls for reverses outside of gradeschool and is baffled by misdirection running plays but this guy has a motor that never stops. If we can have teams worrying about everyone on the field except for Anderson then this kid is going to have a 10 sack year.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    As goes Peppers, so goes every other guy on that D-line. Just hoping Doc plays balls out every game.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    He won't get many RBs chipping at him, I can say that. They'll be busy.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Bear down you crazy diamond

    http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_15590774?nclick_check=1

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    didn't have a chance to sleep in this morning and decided to jump on the da site...and then threw up a little in my mouth realizing the extreme depth that Larry's tongue is inside the Bears organizations hole.

    "This may be a dumb question, but how many times did the Bears win the coin toss last season, and what was their record when doing so?"

    Steve G.
    Evanston, Illinois

    The Bears were 5-1 when winning the coin toss and just 2-8 when losing it last year. In Lovie Smith

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    wow.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That's some journalism right there.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +1

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Man, it takes two hours just to get around to the thread...

    DEVIN HESTER :

    We tried to turn the artist into a cook. All eyes will certainly be on the greatest returner of all time to see how he's managing the epic new playbook and a timing offense as a receiver ....

    ... and Johnny Knox ...and Juaquin 'invisible man' Iglesias ...and the man that took a year off to learn a playbook half the size, Earl Bennett. Rashied Davis appears to have a job for life for some reason. Apparently he does things on ST that no other human being can do. Or he's bumming Angelo.

    Lovie has already seemingly decided his gump of hearts to nominate Hester and Knox as the two starters. Why ? Based on what ? Hester's salary for one. Their pro bowls awarded to them as return men ? If anyone thinks Shabba isn't our best receiver - by some degree - I'll strap myself in firmly and await their reasoning. Clearly he'll shine in camp and pre-season, because he's quite literally and metaphorically head and shoulders above the Ewok nation. If Lovie *still* hasn't got him at least as #2 by the regular season then I can only imagine what our O-line will look like. Prediction - Ewoks and smurfs running into each other, lost in space, Shabba doing it like it ain't no thang ... and ending up as #3.

    Lovie's Mood :

    I could give a shit. It's our boys that matter. Forrest Gump Whitaker can throw all the toys he wants out of his pram, he's not getting anymore.

    Forte/Taylor :

    Each gets the chance to rush for 100 yards. Don't see it as a battle, they're both Bears. See it is as left hook, right hook. Tofu is the uppercut, Unga's the jab. Put them all together behind a line without pensioners on it and that spells RUN-GAME.

    What about ....

    Major Wright - Deal or no deal ?

    How many combinations of players will Lovie try out at safety before even the players are falling around laughing at his complete inability to install a competent tandem.

    The Tight End roundabout - who gets the chop ?

    Sadly it looks like Dez. Angelo hasn't got the balls to chop his first round golden girl. They didn't sign Manu and Angulo to cut them. Kellen Davis does everything better than Olsen and Lovie knows it. Father time vomits on Dez Clarke's hand towel .... and joins Alex Brown in New Orleans ? Jamar in Carolina ?

    Tommie ? Tommie doesn't do camp. Let's hope he gives us at least a few quarters of the regular season. The key man on defense this year for me. We just won't see him until Detroit.

    What I'm really looking forward to seeing in camp is exactly how selfish Brett Favre is. It's not about you Brett. There's a whole team there waiting for its QB, you dumb cracker. I dare the media not to interview him when he comes back three days before their first game of the season. Nobody call him, nobody say a word. Don't answer his calls. Wouldn't it be cool if Alex Brown knocks him out for the season in week one ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish-isms for the ages:

    "unless he's bumming Angelo."

    and

    "Father Time vomits on Dez Clark's hand towel"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My ESPN FF Team has a new team song:

    I get ratty sporadically
    go crazy automatically
    make you wanna get mad at me
    be down like a battery
    be double A, double love
    rebuttal with my sub
    got trouble with my urine bubble
    make dirty in the cup
    ah fuck it, twist up a j
    im gonna puff it
    a stoner stones with somethin
    dunkin denyin your lovin
    im so high, so high miss mcday
    eyes so glazed cause i am so blazed
    im like a cow with my grass
    i take it and graze
    im always at the po rockin with dem shades
    my pee pee was appraised
    and im just like i smoked two days ago dude

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pioKi7vrebs

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "my pee was appraised"

    that is the best explanation of a drug test i've ever heard

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish..CLASSIC!!!!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Here's my take on the Brett Girl.

    When he couldn't make up his mind whether or not he wanted to come back for another season after the Cheeseheads went 13-3, that told me all I needed to know. He was no longer hungry for the Lombardi trophy and he was in if for all the wrong reasons. How does a title hungry QB waffle when he's on the verge of winning the NFL's ultimate prize in the Zenith of his career? Exactly, if it were you or I we would have crawled to training camp for another season. Quite honestly I think McCarthy handled that situation with way more grace than I would have. Come April/May I would have told him to go pound sand in a much more Crystaline fashion and I would have traded him for a 5th rounder and a bag of balls to the Rams, Bills or Chiefs. Cutting him loose to the Jets was way too kind if you ask me. I could give a rip about his NFL accomplishments, the dude is spoiled goods and I say shame on Childress for allowing the Brett girl to hold his team hostage while yet again the crybaby sucks on his thumb because he can't man up.

    Out. Bear the blanketty blank Down.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    The three locks to do their thing this year? Pep/Lac/Cutty.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Robbie

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Is that the nickname for our O-line, Artoo ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    How bout we just stick with our original name.
    "MONSTERS OF THE MIDWAY". Is that too much to ask for?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Lol...it would be nice if we lived up to it

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    that beer has got to be rough. Only 1 55% beer will black you the f*ck out. That is scary. I had a couple 12% room temp non carbonated ciders in Wales and i almost fell into the ocean.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Cold.

    I like your new Avatar btw.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    look at that little guy being poured into a frosty glass. that cute little chipmunk got worked over pretty good.

  • i am giddy because i remember so many years where i was sick to my stomach because we were about to have some pussy, no name, milktoast, game managing terd at QB. The question this year is will Jay throw 30 TD's and 30 picks or 30 TD's and 10 picks? Will he have 4,000 or 5,000 yards? Will he fill in the holes from last years performances and pull out those 4 missing victories? I for one am excited about the possibilities. Jay Cut is the mang. This is going to be an absolute roller coaster...and i'm going to love every minute of it. It is about to be on boys.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    If Cutty can just keep it cool and not try and force the ball in between triple teams, we'll be fine. It would help if our receivers weren't midget waiters.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Goes back to more time and better communication with our smurf squad Joseph.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVdhevQbUo&feature=related

    How is it Aromashodu gets open deep every time?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.... Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... Weeeeeeeeeee.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    or flying monkeys ... the lollipop guild ...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    What did Favre throw last year 33/7 or whatever versus like 29/29 the previous year for the Jets ? You can only be as good as the team around you. He's got a better line(hopefully), better coaches, A TE that can block, a healthy Forte, Chester Taylor ... man, it's all brand new - new offense though, it can't all go like clockwork from day one with the receivers we have.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    IF we had a great O-line..it would.

  • Would it hurt?

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