Chris Harris Coming Back to Chicago

From PFT:

The Bears want to fix a mistake they made three years ago.

Panthers safety Chris Harris tweeted that he is headed back to Chicago in a trade. Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune says the move could involve a veteran linebacker from the Bears.  Harris confirms the trade is not official yet.

Harris was dealt in 2007 for a fifth-round pick to open up playing time for Adam Archuleta.  That didn't work out so well.

In Carolina, Harris had three workmanlike years, missing only four starts.  He may just be league average for a starting safety, but average would be a big upgrade for the Bears.

Expect Harris to start every game this season as he immediately becomes the best safety on the roster.

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  • The Bear's have just updated their saftey problems with a great pickup. We might lose some young linebacker but it will be worth the trade. Chris Harris is a good player..maybe not great but he is good. Plus, with Major Wright at his wing and Manning back at his best position, nickel back, we should be good. I am liking this move a lot. IF everyone stays healthy we have very good defense.

  • YES!

    I am excited to have him back, I thought it was a mistake when we traded him, and it would be a mistake to go into another season without a veteran safety. Kudos to the Bears for admitting a mistake (they usually don't) and for fixing a mistake (they usually don't).

    Now, do you think they want to continue those trends and bring in Mike Brown? Have him show Major how to play in the NFL and lead a team.

  • RT @skjensen: I've confirmed that Tim Ruskell could join the #Bears soon. http://bit.ly/cjvv7l

    so who is this guy? b/c idk jack shit a/b him....

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Not Carroll, that's for sure, and no doubt why they don't want him.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Phhrt!

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/angelo-philosophical-about-future-with-bears.html

    "I always say this: The bus that I am driving has no rear-view mirrors. You just make decisions to the best of your ability and then you keep going forward and we feel real good about the direction we are going in. We felt real good about the direction we were going in last year. We spent a lot of time creating what I thought was a very good plan. It didn't work. It doesn't mean the plan was bad. That's where you have to differentiate your thinking."

    ???

    1. Not only are there no rear-view mirrors Jerry, but the windows are all blacked-out and the bus is hermetically sealed and filled with a crack-cocaine/PCP/thorazine mixture, Bubba Gump is driving and Ted Phillips is the mechanic.

    2. Eh .. you thought you had a good plan ... and it didn't work ...but that doesn't mean the plan was bad? ... eh ... that's exactly what it means Jerry, you nonce.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Lovie and Jerry both have some talent or they would not have gotten where they are today. Lovie, for example, played a big part in getting the defense to cause so many turnovers. Jerry has an excellent eye for middle to late round talent.

    But neither of them knows how to talk to the press. Every time these guys say anything, its just hard to hear. This franchise needs a new face badly. After this year if Lovie wants to stay and coach the DBs, more power to him - but we need a new head coach and a new GM.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    In a sense, New Bear, what you say is on the face of it, correct. Although Lovie's success was as a DC, not a HC, it should be noted. He's not a very good Head Coach. Screwed the pooch in the Super Bowl. But it's his idiosyncracies ; Simple things like clock management, making red flag challenges and working out their implications quickly, in-game offensive adjustments, sometimes defensive in-game adjustments, team selection, refusal to admit errors and go backwards on a decision ... stuff like that. Lovie is loved by his players though, and that helps for sure. Also, in fairness to him, his defenses usually do pretty well when everybody is healthy and pulling their weight on the field. bring us a Lombardi and you can stay, Lovie. The Cheshire cat fuckstick? Not so fast. Let there be no mistake or misunderstanding ...

    Jerry Angelo is a stupid prick.

    Success with the Buccaneers? Really? They won the super bowl two years after he left. Is that success ? Or did they finally ice it precisely *because* he left? He hasn't won a super bowl and I don't believe he ever will. We got to the superbowl ... and who was our Talismanic QB to push us over the top - who was our was the Jim McMahon (without whom we would never have won Superbowl XX, Mike Ditka grudgingly acknowledged)? Rex Fucking Grossman. That's who Jerry thought was our Franchise poster boy. What a sack of spineless gormless stink. Angelo's talent has yet to reveal itself. He sure as hell can't draft or spot talent as often as you need to as a GM. Have a quick scan at the last thread and see the LEGENDS he overlooked for melons he drafted. And eh .. that's pretty much all his job is, to spot talent on a consistently excellent basis, so ergo he sucks. You could do a thesis, literally a thesis on how bad , ill-conceived and how clusterfucked his decisions are.

    So in case we're not clear on the subject, let me re-emphasise and clarify, so that we're all on the same page here and that there is no misunderstanding, or matter-of-opinion thing getting in the way of us moving forward as one cohesive, depth-filled, juggernaut of NFL brutality and excellence the likes of which the NFL has not seen since a certain bunch of rebels rocked up in Halas Hall circa '83/'84.

    Jerry Angelo is a stupid prick.

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Hare Krishna.

    The glass half full view:
    ==========================

    With Chris Harris coming back (hate that we're losing JW obviously) our D is looking like it could win games on its own circa 2005/6. Our line didn't look all that bad in the last two games of last season and with Mike Tice and more bods, we could be slightly better this year no doubt. Manu will help bigtime. Chester Taylor - we'll be good to run it a lot better than we did last year with his contributions. Pass Pro should be a bit better, combined with Shabba starting from week one. Throw in the back-field stylings of Taylor/Forte on swings and screens ... those fullbacks (Tofu + The Thing) ... Davis/Olsen ... no fucking Wrong Turner to cock things up ... we could actually be pretty sweet on offense. Barring injuries. Hah. Back to Jerry Angelo wouldn't you know it.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Won't comment on anything you said NewB, because I pretty much dissagree with all of it... and Irish did a good enough job below.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    above

  • Angleo's buddy buddy. Seriously..if you don't like Angleo.. you won't like Ruskell

  • Holy shit! Totally unexpected but very welcomed. I wonder who the linebacker is? Williams? Roach? Hunter? Pisa?

  • Williams. He is the only one with the best potential out of all of him. I didn't want him to go..but I think our need is Saftey.. and we just filled that need. SO, I feel good about it.

  • they're still working out the deal (Harris' contract has to be restructured). not official until they work this out (and reportedly the Panthers are re-working Roach's contract)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    The trade was finalized Tuesday afternoon. The Bears will send linebacker Jamar Williams to Carolina in exchange for Harris. Expect a formal announcement shortly. Sorry FQ.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    sorry for what? lol we got him....happy as hell. but the beat reporters (and Harris himself via twitter) were saying it wasn't finalized yet. but fuck yea we have 2 starting safeties now.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I just didn't want you to think I was being an asshole lol plus, I kinda wanted to get rid of Roach and not Williams.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    me too B85. I think Jamar is better than Roach personally.

    Hapy as hell to have a real FS on the roster though.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    It seems the Bears are stealing the headlines again. How many teams could do that? 3 or 4 at best.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Seriously .. all we need is a guard, big receiver. That is it.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    maybe not even big receiver if Martz can work his charm. but guard? yea. and maybe a center for insurance (or is Beekman good at center)?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Beekman always rocks the C position in preseason.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Oh Trac and FQ, if Lovie try's to make Harris play a position other than saftey..could you kill him please ? lol

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    yes. matter of fact, PUT HIM AT RECEIVER!!!! yea....that'll be a INGENIOUS play. no no NO!!!!! got 1 better for you: long fucking snapper. CHRIS HARRIS AT LONG SNAPPER!?!?!?!?!? definite super bowl.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Goodbye Kevin Payne. Sorry you couldn't cover.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP.. that was priceless lol

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This will be a top ten defense. You have too many playmakers and if they all stay healthy, we will be greatly awarded. Seriously, Lets list them shall we, Tommie Harris, Peppers, Urlacer, Briggs,Pisa,Charles Tillman, Zachary Bowman, Chris Harris. Damn.. I feel better already.. Now get me my guard and big receiver for Cutler.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Lemme fix:
    Base 4-3
    Pepper - Butter - Harrison - Anderson (I'm guessing Izzy moves to 2nd)
    Briggs - Child Support - Pisa
    Peanut - Harris - Major Major - Bowman

    Nickel: Drop Pisa, add Graham
    Dime: Drop Child Support, add Jennings or a Rook

    That looks a helluva lot better than AntiPlank Weapon and Alfalfa back there.

    It's not a bad 2nd string either:

    Wooten - Adams - Sadler-McQueen - Izzy
    Roach - McGlover - HH <-- This looks weak Brown - Afalava - AntiPlank - One of the Moores

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Thanks for clearing that up GP.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Child Support...I just died laughing at work

  • In reply to gpldan:

    It seems Doug Buffone's rant may have actually done some good because they sure haven't been listening to the fans up till now.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    They don't care about us Trac, and to be brutally honest, if I owned the Bears I'd do exactly what I wanted with them - it's a billion dollar business and if you're the school bus driver you don't ask the stuttering fucks in the back where they want go ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    damn.. that was good Irish.. almost had my milk come out of my nose lol

  • In reply to gpldan:

    what about aquaman jarron and tuna melton as backups on the line

  • In reply to gpldan:

    www.chicitysports.com/forum

    Would love to invite you Chicago fans to an all Chicago sports messageboard. We could use more posters so check it out and post some with us! Discussion, news, articles for all Chicago teams...Bears, Bulls, Cubs, Sox, B'hawks.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    RT @skjensen: Done deal, I'm now told. Jamar Williams is a Carolina Panther, and Chris Harris is a Chicago Bear -- again...

    RT @ZachZaidman: Former Seattle GM Tim Ruskell is expected to join the Bears front office at some point this offseason

    yay to former. nay to latter (well for now...)

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Could it possibly be Hunter or Nick Roach? I welcome very much bringing back Chris Harris.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Veteran seem to imply it will be Hunter or Roach.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    for the last time....

    THE LINEBACKER BEING TRADED IS JAMAR WILLIAMS!!!! NO OTHER LINEBACKERS ARE IN THE QUESTION!!!! o and Urlacher's retiring as a Bear (i want him to, but for others that don't, get used to the idea)....

    =)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    What can you do? Kinda makes me feel like when my wife wouldn't rest until I sold my motorcycle that I never drove. Couldn't ever find the time to use it but thought it looked better in my garage than someone ele's.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac..become a proffesor.. that was some beautiful shit there...perfect way to describe Williams.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Yeah, decked out 2005 Gold wind, finest riding bike made(Don't get me wrong, I love Harley's but you have to put them on a trailer to go anywhere). Now I have a 1800 VTX and even though it's a very fun ride, it will never replace the Gold Wing.

    The point being, while Harris is a solid player, he may never replace the value we had with Jamar on the team.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I told you guys, top 10 or maybe even top 5 Defense. Oh yea of little faith.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    i could've seen top 10 w/o harris. w/ him? top 5 is easy

    1) Jets
    2) Ravens
    3) Bears
    4) Vikings
    5) Pittsburg or GB

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Yikes, three NFC North teams in the top 5 and Detroit with Suh chomping at the bit.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Up until last night I was starting to hear the talking heads indicating the Lions would make a run at leap frogging the Bears in our division. This signing gets our team back in the hunt.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Rex Hadnot (UFA) Cleveland knee injury disrupted most of his 2009 season, but Hadnot has been an above-average interior lineman for most of his career since being drafted in the sixth round by the Miami Dolphins in 2004.

    A versatile lineman who can start at both guard spots and center, Hadnot is still just 28 and could be a potential inexpensive find on the free agent market

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I like him. Cheap,Above-average, and Mike Tice will make hime better. Oh, and he is young.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Logan Mankins. outstanding run-blocker and one of the better guards in the NFL. Mankins has allowed 1.5 or less sacks in three of his five NFL seasons

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    He's still available? Wasn't he really expensive (before the draft!)?

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Bobbie Williams

    A 10-year NFL veteran, Williams has started every game except three since the beginning of the 2004 season and is still highly productive.

    Part of a surprisingly effective Bengals offensive line in 2009, Williams has plenty of experience and great bulk for the position, making him one of the best short-term starters on the market at age 33.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Please comment on my comment. It validates my being.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Enjoy this pic of Da Coach's Mustache circa 1979, as a small DBB gift for choosing to participate:

    http://img.moronail.net/img/2/3/4323.jpg

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    mikebdot comment

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Validated Bdot! That was nine excellent words out of YOU!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    At the end of the day, Lovie's stregnth is was and always will be the defense. We got to the superbowl on D and we're making good moves on D now. Hopefully it'll be enough to bring the unit back to elite status.

    Offense though, Cutler is basically going to have to be Peyton - read coverages on the fly and instantly move the ball to a weak spot before the defenses can shred a porous O-line. If Martz/Cutler can make that happen, we've got a good team. If not... I just hope Cutler stays healthy until the 2011 draft when we finally bring some protection.

    There has got to be a way to bring in some talent at guard. If not Fancea, somewhere... As much as it pains me to say this, maybe Knox or Bennett have some value to a team with a competent guard. It would be the same kind of deal, trade someone with a big upside for someone who can reliably fill a pressing need now.

  • In reply to mottystone:

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    comment (see how easy this is)

  • In reply to mottystone:

    http://img.moronail.net/img/2/0/4320.jpg

  • In reply to mottystone:

    This is great news and makes our defense look like a contender. Now, so long as the injuries aren't tremendous and the mad scientist on the other side of the ball whips those kids into shape we could not only get to the playoffs, we could potentially win a playoff game. Good news, indeed. Glad to see you back Chris!

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Lovie's strength is imitating a statue and ensuring the jumbotron is functioning.

    Rivera was the face of that D.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Thanks for saving me the effort Willie. Ed fucking Zachary.

    Rivera was more than the face of that D, he was the heart, soul, and brains of that D. Lovie is a big steamy, worthess dump.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    What more proof do you need that the Bears are all in for this year. JW could have been the long term answer behind the aging Urlacher, and how many years are left in the Chris Harris tank? Someone should write 2010 or bust on that bus they run off of.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    While I'm glad we have a vet FS, I totally agree with you about Jamar Go... 'cept he could have been the guy to replace Briggs not 54. We need someone with a bit more size to replace the Hurt Locker.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    Oh, and I thought you'd all find this pretty funny, I know I did: http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/04/27/breaking-jamarcus-russell-is-fat/?ncid=txtlnkusspor00000002

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Aaaaaand this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l89Eg9baYOA

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I have a question: If Harris is so good why would the Panthers want to let go of him? And yeah, I agree a lot of our D is up there in years in football terms...Child Support is what..34 now..and I hope his wrist dosen't snap again. Things don't heal at 34 like they do a 25. Just my opinion.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    According to the Uncle in Chicago - word on the street was that Urlacher wasn't going to make it back this year. Now, JA *tried* to put that to rest... but as Oliver Wendall Holmes said: "A mind stretched to a new idea, never returns to it's original dimensions".

    I could see it being the case... But, seriously, as I said last year... WALK IT OFF! Put some 'Tussin on it! One handed 'Lach is better than 2 handed Hunter.

    I hope he's back. That ONE hit he put on the guy from GB was NASTY.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Harris is solid. Not great but solid. I like him and this signing gives us some much needed stability. The other side of the equation is that Jamar Williams is solid enough to start in the Nfl. His upside is better than Roaches and HH and I wouldn't be surprised if the Bears tried peddling them first but Carolina insisted on Jamar. I would have preferred to sacrifice a draft pick or 2 and traded up for Mays but water under the bridge I guess.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    +1

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Evan Mathis (UFA*) Cincinnati
    A big reason why Cedric Benson was so successful this year. Evan Mathis didn't allow a sack all season.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Ok.. I am mother fucking pissed. We could have got the left guard Alan Faneca, $2.5 million base salary. Alan Faneca at a discount.. JUST ONE YEAR CHICAGO... One year. I am depressed.. Chris is good..but we could have good guard. This is sad.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Faneca is a Cardinal

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/27/alan-faneca-lands-in-arizona/

  • In reply to Joseph:

    By all accounts his pass protection is not what it was to say the least ... looking on the bright side? I do have one somewhere.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ok My Bad.. He's almost 32..gives him a couple years anyway.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    54 is 32. Briggs is 30. Harris (27) is only 2 years older than Jamar.

    I think this was a great move. Safety was our position of need and Williams was not going to get a ton of PT behind our LB core.

  • In reply to GoBears:

    It's hard to find good 'backers, you just don't know what they've got until they get to the NFL and they can move to the ball without the 'Hillenmeyer' thinking time - before their legs kick in and their hands come off their thighs ...

    Jamar didn't need to replace anyone, should have been our starting Sam. I'll let it go now, sorry for all the language and bile.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I'm worried about Peanut. He hasn't played a down since AntiPlank deflated his lung. I'd like to see more depth at CB.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm worried if Cutler goes down we will be in heap big trouble.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    honestly Trac, in the NFL, if your starting QB goes down you are totally fucked. Hold your horses boys...EXCEPT 2 or 3 times in the history of the league.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    With a great D we can overcome allot though. Orton made a great run when Rexy got hurt.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Our backup was better than our starter !

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Who on this list is still available and better than OMG?

    Andy Alleman (RFA) Kansas City
    Eugene Amano (UFA) Tennessee
    David Baas (UFA*) San Francisco
    Kevin Boothe (UFA*) NY Giants
    Jeremy Bridges (UFA) Arizona
    Daryn Colledge (UFA*) Green Bay
    Harvey Dahl (UFA*) Atlanta
    Jahri Evans (UFA*) New Orleans
    Kynan Forney (UFA) Jacksonville
    Rex Hadnot (UFA) Cleveland
    Ben Hamilton (UFA) Denver
    Russ Hochstein (UFA) Denver
    Montrae Holland (UFA) Dallas
    Richie Incognito (UFA*) Buffalo
    Max Jean-Gilles (UFA*) Philadelphia
    Chris Kuper (UFA*) Denver
    Deuce Lutui (UFA*) Arizona
    Logan Mankins (UFA*) New England
    Evan Mathis (UFA*) Cincinnati
    Seth McKinney (UFA) Buffalo
    Stephen Neal (UFA) New England
    Chester Pitts (UFA) Houston
    Manny Ramirez (RFA) Detroit
    Tutan Reyes (UFA) Houston
    Rob Sims (UFA*) Seattle
    Keydrick Vincent (UFA) Carolina
    Bobbie Williams (UFA) Cincinnati
    Marshal Yanda (RFA) Baltimore

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I think the asterisk means restricted for this year because of the uncappedness gp.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Don't know half of these guys but I'll say no to Rob Sims (didn't he go to Detroit?) ...at least we know their achilles heel if he starts.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +1

    And touch wood there Trac ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    why aren't there 234 comments yet?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    My 7 posts = 20% of comments.
    FQ 7 posts = 20%
    85 10 posts = 28%
    Gp 3 posts = 8%
    The rest of you are pathetic losers.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Uh...

    LOL. LOL. GO BEARS BEAR DOWN. LOL!!!!! LOL!!!

    (RIP)

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    LOL indeed.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Did the Chicago Bears finally admit a mistake? Better late than never, right?

    Then again, if Williams ends up being more productive than Harris going forward I wouldn't be surprised. I mean c'mon, it's the Bears.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Wait til three years down the road and Jamar Williams is the cock o' the walk. Mind you, Angelo won't be around to say he should have given them Olsen instead .. because that's exactly what should have happened.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Does this mean we aren't going after Sharper? :(

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    RIP indeed... please.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Where's Noah BF#16?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    lol wasn't that Week 16 when that happened tho bro? c'mon now lol

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I wonder if any of the reporters are going to call out JA or LS on bringing back a player they stupidly traded away in the 1st place (their 2nd biggest mistake after the Super Bowl loss)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I would welcome the return Chris Harris, who holds a degree in ball-stripping from Peanut U.

    Ah, yes, this deal invokes the name of ADAM ARCHULETA!

    The POSTER CHILD for Lovie Smith's ham-handed personnel moves!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Damn. I hope it's not Williams. He's my favorite backup. I hoped he would replace Urlacher when the time came.

  • Ahhhhh........

    Package up Hunter and some other schmoe for him. PLEASE keep Jamar, Pisa, and Briggs.

    Hell, toss 'em Urlacher.

    Yeah, I said it.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Maybe for Chris Harris and a 1st Round pick in '11...

  • Trust me Murph, I never see anything but Harley on trailers when I head out west.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    You gotta own a Gold Wing to know. Lazy Boy on wheels.

  • Most Harley riders (Not Outlaws) I know(quite a few) that actually ride, leave the front gate with trailer in tow. They don the bravado of owning a Harley but in reality, most of them are just wanna be bikers. False bravado vs. Intelligent biker. Sorry couldn't help my self. Jeff's Un-intellegent Olsen headline came to mind.

  • are we talking quantity over quality (not that i usually provide either)

  • RT @ZachZaidman: Miami Herald: Dolphins GM calls WR Dez Bryant to apologize for asking the player if his mother was ever a prostitute http://bit.ly/bUYWl3

    wow. fuck miami. fuck their GM. i hope Henne breaks his leg this season. that's totally uncalled for on SO many levels

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Hahaha.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ona-RhLfRfc

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    That is the main thing. We have a lot of old players. That is why I hope they all stay healthy.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Exactly why I got excited to see the word "veteran" in conjunction with "linebacker".

    How many more years can we get out of good old 'Lach? I like the guy, but I also like reality.

    Briggs, I love the guy, but how many more seasons?

    Pisa? How many more games?

    A guy like Jamar could be here for years. Laying the hurt down.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    what's your definition of "old" in terms of football

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Makes no sense keeping Pisa the walking injury and ditching Jamar. Just a crying shame ...

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Lac should be raring to go, he didn't do anything last year after all ... except pay child support, right kids?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Brad Biggs echoes the sentiment brought forth by gpldan - http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/next-move-bears-payne-could-seek-release.html

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Hate to see Williams go but once we re-signed Briggs he was a spare part. Glad to have Harris back. Our D is starting to look like it might be able to get off the field on 3rd downs. Let's hope!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Is that going to be a new question on next year's wonderlic?

  • How'd you like that intricately drawn portrait Murph. Cracked up at that thing.

  • Poor Irish... as he slept we dealt his (and my) favorite LB.

    Should provide for an interesting breakfast of dichotomy smothered in couldabeen sauce. We finally have a starting vet safety, but we've lost our favorite prodigal, but unused son at LB. I smile as I weep with you Irish.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'll jump in here MB, thanks, I just don't f***king believe this! Forgive me in advance, but I can't take much more of this. I'm glad I quit smoking because my veins would be popping right now.

    I despair daily at how f***ing stupid Angelo really is! This is INSANE. The man is insane. He's a coke head/painkillers/strung out on something mother*****r - just look at the fking state of him! Look at the man! Any photo!

    1. We have now basically thrown away our first pick in the draft when we could have gotten a guard. Why do you draft MW when you're going to deal for Chris Harris, a guy you got rid of a couple of years ago? If he's going to SS, I could semi-begin to understand this a teeny weeny bit.

    2. But why do you take the guy back when you've just drafted a FS with your top pick? Why are Carolina dealing him? Is there a medical issue or did they just get the deal of the fucking century and they know it?

    3. How do you let a young future pro bowl linebacker go for an average safety? Who says he's a future pro bowl linebacker? It's a judgement call and I'm making it - the only start we chose to give him (yet Hunter Hillenpussy makes the field 14 times) and the guy exploded with 18 tackles like the machine he is.

    "But Irish, we need a safety yada yada yada ..." We have an ARMY of safeties and supposedly the best DE in the NFL! If anyone on the Bears had a fkn clue what they were looking at, we would have been set years ago at FS. Seriously, the 1.06 BILLION DOLLAR BEARS couldn't %#$@ find 5 or 6 million to shore up the center of the secondary and pay Darren Sharper ? LAST YEAR!!? Couldn't wait for Atogwe !!? We have a first round pick next year (which we could have used months ago to snag the best receiver in the NFL - oops! Another judgement call..)and could have gotten next year's Eric Berry in the draft, because we'll have a really high pick ...

    Somebody is taking the piss out of the Chicago Bears, MY BEARS and it has to stop yesterday! If you're going to piss away a great young linebacker, then get something great in return or what's the point? "But Irish, the safety position was a big need...." We just f*****g DRAFTED ONE! Why did we just draft one? Are you telling me that every DB we've acquired is a POS ?! How are you fools in jobs today? Ginnie, did they turn off your oxygen?! Where's our left guard? Right guard, center for that matter? Where's the fucking beef? There are literally seconds left on Kreutz and Garza's life clocks. We swapped Beekman for OMG and back again? He's our backup center!! How do we pass? How do we run? "We're going to the playoffs Irish, wait and ..." NO WE'RE NOT!!! Cutler will get killed in game one by Mr.Suh for Christ's sakes! On his own. ON HIS OWN ! No time to pass it to a smurf (if he can spot one behind the monsters we have to face this year) and no holes to run through for our new signing or MCL Forte. Jebus H. fargin Freist, I do despair. So long Jamar. I smelled a fucking rat with the bank-breaker Angelo pulled out of his coke/crack addled ass. Chris Harris you'd better have a career-career. Peppers you'd better unleash hell. Manu you'd
    better clear prairie-sized holes and murder people just by looking at them. Chester Taylor you'd better make me forget about Walter Payton, because you boys have cost us bigtime.

    Bring me the head of Jerry Angelo.

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

    Hare Krishna Hare Krishna

    Krishna Krishna Hare Hare

    Hare Rama Hare Rama

    Rama Rama Hare Hare

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    What a way to start the day. Reading about another clusterf*ck from the handjob in the clown car. I believe that man could turn Buddha to the Dark Side ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I'm not really having a go at Chris Harris, just pissed at the man with no plan ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Not to get in your way at all Irish.. I understand. But didn't we draft a fs and Chris Harris is ss?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Harris did play FS for us when he took over from Green as I recall? But if they stick him at SS, then he's obviously an upgrade over DM.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You didn't dissapoint irish. I knew that shit was coming... like a fucking dog before an earthquake. I'm pretty much there with you. I would much rather have preferred to pay some cash to get Ato or moved up to get Mays, or deal roach instead.

    I'm kinda just resigned to see what happens next year and welcome the regime change with open arms. Hang in there baby, we knew this year was going to be some level of a clusterfuck anyway.

    I wish Jamar the very best and hope he becomes a pro bowler with a team who has the basic intelligence and common sense to start him.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, I blew a gasket when I saw that MB, calmed down now. MW could work out and Chris Harris knows the score at least. Afalava can step in if needed.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If pure free agency is the best we can do, I say sign the two best guys on the list to one year contracts. If this is really a do or die year, we cannot go into the season (or even into training camp) without addressing the offensive line.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Honestly, even if signing two guys is too much money, just sign somebody that has a shot to contribute as a pure guard. Let's let tackles be tackles, guards be guards and Olin give one more pro-bowl effort.

  • Hummm

  • In reply to GoBears:

    Why not Go, you couldn't do any worse my man. And we like to assume we're all men, by the way, is there a woman with the stones to stand up and say she's a member of the fairer sex and a member of this band of brothers? Speak now ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I'm actually a chick Irish.

  • You're surprised Murph? JA has something against olinemen. Should have been pretty evident by now.

    We can only hope he pulls some surprising chris harris-like shit out of his hat to get us a coupla guards by camp. Who the hell knows any more.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Set at receiver. Set on the O-line. Smurfs to the left of me, old men to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with Jerry ...

  • fuck Henne. he was a bum at Michigan and is a bum now. (Michigan has a knack for producing shit QBs sans Brady)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    You mean like Jim Harbaugh? Or Elvis Grbac?

    What a crock.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Go back and look at Harbaugh's play and numbers. He was solid, not great but solid. Our O-line was pretty bad back then and our opponents came after him with a vengeance.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    He didn't stink. He was an older Tomczak.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    WTF?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Welcome Back Irish. They wouldn't have been able to pull off the Jamar trade if they hadn't tied you to a chair and fed you Jagermeister all night. I just hope Jerry didn't violate you in any way my friend.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The Jamar trade would have to have been pulled off in the manner of getting Mr. T onto a plane ...Jager bombs and a needle in the neck. "Okay, he's out .. trade Williams !"

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Just generally ... WTF?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Yeah, we still do not have a long term, tall, root running WR to be the #1 for Cutler. That's not going to happen this year, but when we pick someone up we will need to make space on the roster. My thinking is that we will go reciever and O-line with 2 of the 3 first picks next year, so let's clear out the WR spot now to fill our last glaring hole.

    Put Hester back on special teams and we've got DA, Knox, Bennett and (maybe) Igglesias all competing for the #2 and #3 jobs. Its still early to see which of the first three is gonna be the solid #2, but we have a quality small WR to spare here. We need to get something done to bring another guard to training camp. I don't want to see any of those three go because they all have tremendous upside, but we've got to get something done.

    Option 2 (not in a million years will Lovie do this): Shop Manning as a proven kick returner. It leaves a hole at nickelback, but that's a lot easier to fill than guard and Manning could bring some serious value from the right team. Then we can put Hester back on heavy return duty (with help from Knox), and bring him in on select plays as a vertical wideout.

    Does anyone know of which teams have extra guards to trade?

  • In reply to mottystone:

    There were a couple just released today or yesterday.

    Also, what about our new receiver Barnes? While he doesn't have #1 size or speed, he seems like he'll turn out to be an interesting training camp item. 155 catches in his sr year. I think B85 was pimping him a few weeks ago, and we got him.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yeah, yeah, ..

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I like Rex Hadnot. He had an injury but still is young and would be a nice pickup.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Well, What do ya'll think? These are the best guard left and I think we can get these guys or at least one of them if they don't resign with their teams.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Take your pick 85. I believe Jahri has signed his tender and if I'm not mistaken he will was tendered for a first or second rounder. No way he will be available.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Same with Mankins I believe gents.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Justin fkn Smiley !!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Patience 85, patience. So far the Bears have methodically addressed one need at a time and I have got to say JA is finally earning his keep and he's making some good decisions with Ginny's money. Last year was the start of what may turn out to be a legitimate run for the title with all the moves we've made so far. I wonder if the Bill Board shamed the top brass into finally getting pissed off enough to make some long overdue football decisions. Life at the Country Club had to have been brutal for them last year.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I see what you're doing Trac, I'm not biting ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    No offense Irish but this defense is starting to look so respectable that I don't see how they will be able to play bad enough to get anyone fired.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You sound like me when I covered the draft Irish.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Calmed down now. We gained, we lost. So be it. Still over 4 months to go, I'd like to think we can get a decent guard and a bigger target for Cutler on the other side. Then it's in the hands of the 8lb baby Jebus. Lobo's favorite Jebus ...

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    This is a no brainer, I liked Williams upside as well but the truth is we just traded - straight up - a backup for a starter. That is enough said, what success Williams has is up to him but he wasn't usurping Briggs anytime soon so it was a good deal.

    To me it was also a shot over the Manning bow as well saying, fine don't show up for camp, we just signed a nickel corner, drafted a true FS and traded for a good starting SS; so sit in the corner and pout and see what it gets you.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Wow..we can change you #!@#!$@$#!$!$..We actually fixed a clustercuss that we FU@!$#$KED up before. Is it possible these dipshits can grow and expand?.........nah! something is behind it and it will come fourth in the next chapter. Love that Harris is back.

    DBB Post Draft List:

    1. Fixed One FU@!$#!@K UP! +1

    2. Bring me two Guards to protect JC! +100

    3. Watch Our Gladiators play angry and pissed off! PRICELESS!

    4. Watch Jack Ass and Limp Dick Lovie get their pink slips! Bonus Double Round!! hahahahahahahahahaha

    5. Thank you Baby Jebus..my favorite out of all the Jebuses!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    LSD in the drinking water at the Country Club, always wanted to see that shit first hand ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KNpmRH6kKM

    Fucking brilliant!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Yes.... we traded a backup for a starter:

    1. A backup who would start for any team without three good LBs.

    2. A backup who should have started instead of HH.

    3. A starter who would have been released...

    Lovie... see how they refrained from announcing his possible release before using him as trade bait? See how they did that?

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    You must ride shotgun with Angelo, in the Clown car, lol(just for you). By the way a sentence is ended with just one period. You do it on every response, even the ones where you continue to take immature jabs at me. Just Sayin! No worries, I dont care its funny, it makes you look bad not me. Anyway, I will move on from Clowns to Football now, which is why we are here. Welcome back Chris Harris, this was a great move. We have our strong safety now. Hopefully Major Payne, will be ready to start at free safety for us. The defense is looking better & better. We are forming a good ball hawking secondary. Hopefully Angelo will find a way to bring in Justin Smiley next.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Are you talking to me Noah#16? Thanks for pointing out that a sentence ends with a period. You must be fairly well educated at this point. Let me educate you some more as there seem to be some gaps. Namely that the triple-dot punctuation mark is also called a suspension point, points of ellipsis, periods of ellipsis. That is you told, I believe ...

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    As far as Faneca goes, he is at the end of the line anyway. We didnt have much of a shot at him anyway. Faneca signed so quick because he wanted to rejoin some of his old coaches & teammates in AZ, that he played for in Pittsburgh. I read a quote from him saying that earlier. Thats why he didnt shop his services. Miami wants to move Smiley, that wouldnt be a bad option.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Good luck to Jamar in Carolina, he should get a chance to play there. I am heading out of town now, thought I would drop a few comments first. I know, I wont be missed. Hopefully I come back and find we got a Guard as well. I will hold out hope. Take Care all & God Bless.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Chad Henne? He was really good in the two games I saw this year...

  • How about picking up this guy?

    WR DANARIO ALEXANDER, MISSOURI
    BUZZ: While he's not a blazer, Alexander's size (6-5/215) and production (113 receptions for 1,781 yards and 14 TDs) as a senior had most projecting him as a late-round pick. Instead, he wasn't selected.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1123307

  • In reply to zmac:

    We need another Tom Waddle to emerge. Maybe Martz can light a fire under Inglesias. It seems as if nobody knows what this guy is capable of. I don't and from what I can remember he was supposed to be on allot of teams radar when we drafted him.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    What's he capable of? He's a receiver. Angelo drafted him. Ergo SFA.

  • In reply to zmac:

    Think about it guys, our offense even with last years starters is a different animal with the D we have now. Our success will hinge on the D, PERIOD.

  • In reply to zmac:

    OMG is still our starting Left Guard unless something else comes along.

  • Old....meaning they only have a few amount of years left and are more likely to get injured.

  • I would love to Murph, live in Texas now. I steal a day here and there but it's extremely hard for me to take a few days off. Got about 2 more years of working my tail off before my time will be all mine.

  • Our D will give us allot of short fields to work with this year. I can envision Cutty tearing it up with Martz's offense even with our smurf's. It's going to be fun to watch Chicago Bear football again Gents. Damn, I better call Direct TV and get the Sunday ticket turned back on.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Exactly. Damn you... I can't even get it in SD. I'm pissed. Tried getting their online only feature, but you have to buy the whole damn thing. No way in hell I'm paying $500 to watch a shitty, jummpy online feed.

    Damn it!

  • Like I've been saying ... we're broke. The budget got done on three dudes.

  • BAAAAAAAAAAAHAhahahahahaha... indeed.

  • Jahri Evans (UFA*) New Orleans is the best guard on the block. Most of these guys we would have to wait till their tenders were taken off

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Ditto this guy?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Sharper's not coming. We've already traded a good LB and used a 3rd round pick to shore up the position. Unless he comes at a bargain price (not likely since New Orleans wants him to come back) I think he's off the radar at this point.

    Doc, I like your analysis. But I think bringing in a true guard will allow a lot of the talent we have on the line to move back into their natural positions. Plus, don't forget who that guard will be blocking in our division - that's a hell of a weakness.

    Our D is gonna get its swagger back, and that means big time turnovers. If we can solidify the line to reduce the number of picks and sacks, we can turn that into a great turnover differential. With the weapons we have on offense and a +1 or +2 turnover average per game, we can do major damage.

    Plus, I think Forte gets his game on track this year and our two headed running machine will make for serious clock control. Teams can't effectively block two feature backs when they have to protect against Cutler's big play arm and our speedy recievers.

  • Agreed, a guard or 2...another serviceable corner...Freddie Barnes and that just might do it. I still say bring in Sharper. Harris while a good pick-up, Sharper has better instincts.

  • A starter anywhere else Doc, after this thread I'lls eriously consider letting it go, but he should be our starting Sam for the next 8 years ...

    I'm hearing a lot of Tice mentions around the net, is he going to suit up and play 5 positions simultaneously for us?

    Time for the unicorns to take Angelo to Candy Mountain ....

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    +1

  • Ok, ok. Welcome back Chris. But the kool aid is stuck firmly in the back of the freezer.

  • Jamarcus Russell a Bear? We need a big guard ... just sayin' ...

  • Russell comes with his own nickname. How many guards have their own nickname? 8-ball.

  • Affirmative.

  • Dude, he only GOT one game. Actually, I'm kinda glad CW is back, I just blew a fuse when I opened the blog this morning and saw JW was gone. I felt it coming. The rage is at JA, it's just years of it and it's getting worse. We will of course be a better defense this year, looks like we *might* get a serviceable, but not-great OL. But that really pissed on my cornflakes when I saw who'd gone. Pisa, HH I wouldn't lose any sleep over. But Jamar Williams got one chance off Lovie last year and fucking exploded - in the short term our defnse gets better yes, but in the long term I think we lost a baller ...

  • I remember that. Remember, Harbaugh was Ditka's Boy. he was just doing what he thought he was told.

    Me, I would've run the ball.

  • Early 90s? 6 years of college, let's see ...pool in the morning ... cards ...spliff ...a little pool ...more cards ...lunch ... cards ...pool ...2 P.M. retire to the pub ...uh ...nope, sorry Doc.

  • My issue doc is, what happens WHEN pisa goes down for good? And then Briggs get's chipped for a couple games... or Roach goes down for a game or two? Who do we have as back up.

    Besides being the #2 Jamar fan on this blog, I just think that while our LB core is potentially one of the best when healthy... they also tend to get hurt a lot, especially Pisa. That shit worries me a lot.

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