Analyzing the Bears Draft

There is really no point in evaluating the talent selected by Jerry Angelo and company over the last two days because none of us know what these players will become.  But one thing became very clear: the Bears know they need to play better defense.

Will Major Wright, Corey Wootton or Josh Moore step on the field in 2010 and make an impact?  For the sake of their jobs, Jerry and Lovie have to hope one of them does.  After the dismally disappointing 2009 campaign, the Bears have made limited changes to the defensive side of the ball.  Yes they acquired Julius Peppers but they fired Alex Brown's heart in the meantime.  Yes they changed the coordinator but they decided to promote from within and give the Lovie Deuce one more shot to survive.

The Bears didn't play bad defense in 2009.  They played the worst defense in the proud history of the organization - allowing teams to move up and down the field often without effort.  The clear holes were the pass rush, the second corner and the entirety of the backline.  If we believe the Peppers acquisition solidifies the pass rush, must we now assume that Wright and Moore have been brought to town to solidify the secondary?

Time will tell.  Camp is just around the corner.  And the question of the 2010 season might just be this: Did Jerry Angelo and Lovie Smith save their jobs in the later rounds of the draft?

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  • Just had a feeling that was going to happen. Lobo, caught it, but here it is again:

    Gents!

    I have a good buddy in town this weekend so have been out in the fun and sun. Trac, sorry to leave you hanging my man. You guys have been keeping it all up in here nicely though. Well played.

    Here

  • You should have called this thread, Un-anylizing they draft. You said absolutely nothing Jeffy poo. Taking the wait and see approach about future accomplishments is one thing but I would like to know your thoughts about the positions we drafted, when and why. Specially a quarterback that will be a bench warmer.

  • I think the point is we took a safety, corner and defensive end. But to expect any of them to produce this year is far-fetched at best.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    It could be worse...we could have drafted a linebacker...

  • MB..Thnaks for the shout out.. and I agree on all you accounts

    And I will repeat:
    BOY ARE WE FU!@!$#@ED UP!!!! FIRE UP THE CLOWN CAR!!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEQcxTyiwWQ&feature=related

  • Doc..JackAss & Limp Dick Lovie lucked out on JC and now if the O doesn't go they way they want..They found thier scapegoat..It's all JC's fault..

    Bears Management you as "Worthless as a tit on a Bull"

  • how come there aren't 234 comments by now?

  • I don't think there was any interest in this draft from Bears fans. I've said it all along. The only other blog does big numbers because they have thirty writers conversing with each other. How is it possible to get excited about third round draft picks?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    totally agree Jeff. the real fans (DBB) are in tune w/ everything happening. great conversation for the duration of the draft. Bourbonnais bound!!!!!

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    So that's where you've been.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    eivoL dna AJ tsum og.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Kreutz has just had surgery on his achilles. How old is Garza? Eric Olsen could have covered us at g/c, but no, another rookie QB was needed? I'd love us to sign Faneca but clearly the piggy bank is empty. I hope Manu never leaves the field, hope Williams and Shaeffer stay healthy, but you have to wonder if Kreutz and garza are up to a year of improved D-lines in their faces. It just doesn't look good ... although how could we have expected anything different from the worst GM in the business?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I know Irish. Can't explain why these bozo's do the things that they do but I can definitely explain why we have the problems we have because of the things they do.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I like it.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Yesterday's picks included at least 2 crap shoots. 2 Guys that were major stretch's. I don't think a good GM does that. Good GM's take the players the other teams want. Hello............

  • as one of the only guys on this blog that actually live in Chicago let me be the first one to say that Wooten is a bad motherfucker who had some extremely bad luck otherwise he would have been picked in the early 2nd round. We will get him the rehab he needs and will be a great, cheap addition to the Defense. Mark the words boys.
    Wanted Burnet but GB was a little too smart for JA.
    LaCroix put up sick numbers and can't be too bad compared to Caleb Hanie. C'mon guys, if Cutty goes down i would like to have as much competition for the position as possible.
    The Tackle that we picked is like Phil Loadholt...at least in size. Let's coach him up. Whoever said Lance Louis is going to have a real shot at playing this year is absolutely correct. we didn't need a guard because we successfully saved our project from being picked up by another team last year. have no fear boys.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny. Woot might very well be a baaaad motor finger, but dude, we already had a known bad-ass at that spot, and we let him walk out the door for free

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +10 for the 90's porn actor reference. I see what you're saying on the LaFleur issue. I would have liked to see a little more creativity to fill the weak spots as well. When i think more about the AB issue it was more about the fact that we didn't want to pay him 5.5 mil a year. JA needs to be called out for not even getting a trade for him though

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Youtube videos of some of the undrafted free agents we signed:

    Brandon Minor, Michigan RB
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNabgQM8NM4&feature=related

    Barry Turner, Nebraska DE--All I could find on him. Played next to Suh
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJw2W0kHV_s

    Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green WR--(Personal Favorite)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw0a-5xV--w

    Cornelius Brown, UTEP DB
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_My9wV2-NQ

    Matt Mayberry, Indiana LB--Can you say special teams ace?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-usamMd14

    Quentin Scott, Northern Iowa Safety
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCOtnF9Hmoo&feature=related

    Greg Mathews, Michigan WR--David Terrell Part 2??
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsK_nZBAFs

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    shockingly

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    this could be bullshit, since its from the official site:

    In one drill, Tice was holding a blocking shield. But Webb hit Tice so hard that he chipped the coach's tooth. Tice said that Webb had the best punch of the five prospects he personally worked out.

    Maybe he can do the same to Allen one day. Dreams are free.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Wright - Seems to me this was a solid pick. I do think trading away our round 4 or 5 for a higher ranked prospect may have been an idea, but I don't think folks would be smiling any more here if we had 4 rookies than they are now.

    Wooten - Best on the board I suppose. I didn't see any O-Line players drafted in the vicinity of this pick, so presumably that's why we went another direction. One possibility here though would have been to trade down for extra picks. We could certainly use them.

    Moore - has a 2.1 fan grade on nfl.com, not sure why but it does catch the eye. Another CB can't hurt though and at this point in the draft its okay to throw the dice a bit.

    LeFavour - I'm sure all the speculation about this pick is true (good value, best available, need a solid back-up, etc.) I tend to agree that a veteran QB would be a better pick. I also wonder about the three O-line picks that came later in the round, in particular about center Eric Olsen taken by Denver two spots later. A good back-up center is a prospect to replace the aging Kreutz in a year or two, and he could get time at guard in the meantime if he had skills. So much for that.

    Webb - Seems a solid choice, though he is a tackle. Maybe at 330 pounds we can have him move to the interior? Or maybe he is a potential right tackle prospect next to Williams. Either way, I hope he is not the only new face in O-line training camp.

    Rolle - Would have been a cool face to add, but I tend to think we are better without him. The Bears franchise needs guys who care about nothing but football, guys who wake up and want to do nothing but play in the NFL. I could see Rolle losing interest after a couple of years... maybe because he was successful and focused on marketing himself, maybe because he was not successful and was looking for a new challenge.

    Free Agency - I really hope we don't see the next Orlando Pace come out of free agency, even though some posters are already looking toward New York.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Jebus did I see that? We took a fucking QB over Eric Olsen!!!? This proves Angelo is taking the piss. Fatwa! Fatwa! Kill him !! Kill him now!!! Rise up Chicago!! Faneca isn't Pace, sign him quickly. He's 33, it's the end of the world. We HAVE to sign him we need a guard. This is breaking my heart, we could have replaced Kreutz with a sixth round pick! Can someone explain this to me? Now we have to cut Bassanez or Hanie, or God forbid ... cut the guy we just signed when we could ahve had Olsen. I despair.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    33 is 'not' the end of the world ... although it was for Jebus ..

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    WTF?

    That was the Bear's draft of 2010, that's the Bear's draft every single year. Without question the worst drafting by any team. Every single team int eh NFL got better except us, we somehow managed to actually get worse.

    * A quarterback? Are you kidding me? Why?

    * Slipping up and waiting until the fourth round to get us a guard I would semi-understand .... but a defensive end Jerry? Peppers, Gilbert, Melton, Izzy, Anderson, Toeaina not enough for ya? Couldn't have addressed a need before you picked up a DE later on? Get bent Jerry. Get bent.

    * What did you say just before the draft started Jerry? "We don't want guys about 5'11 185lbs, because then you're looking at durability problems and getting beaten up."
    So your answer is to draft a 5'11 188lb smurf to throw in our box of smurf projects named 'Moore'. Genius.

    * IMHO our most pressing need was the OL. With an improved pass rush, and key injuries back fit,the safety position was less of an issue - we need to be able to run the ball and take the pressure off Cutler for chrissakes ... we need to PROTECT our franchise QB! So we do that by taking a tackle in the seventh, instead of a guard in the third? Just fuck off Jerry - you know you're out the door so you did your best to screw our draft up, just like you've been doing since you first got here. You suck at your job. You're incompetent, smug, but most of all ... just completely fucking useless. a computer could be programmed to draft better than you. A Spectrum ZX80 in fact.

    Well that's this year officially fucked then. At least we'll have a high draft pick next year, and that tool won't be around to waste it. We'll have a good front 7 next year. Although no doubt genius will trade away our future pro bowler Jamar Williams for a ham sandwich and a bottle of pop. We have no offensive line. Kreutz was finished anyway, but now has only one achilles tendon. When he goes down we'll have to move his backup from LG to C and plug OMG back into LG. I don't see Cutler lasting too long, let's just pray it won't be career-ending. So no OL ... ergo no running game ... ergo no passing game - and smurf city at that ...

    Wake me up when the nightmare is over and the clown car is on its way to Shitsville.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Solid rant.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Well Boys and maybe Girls that are hding under their avatar..I have to tell you that I have ranted enough to the point that the vein on my forehead now has it's own zip code.

    1. blogfather lol truth serum..actually If they had takene truth serum they would of found out that LDL & JA have love child and he is "The one we donot name" a TE if you will. Ginni has all of the Bears management Balls on her desk and frequntly plays "Ball Chimes" when ever LDL & JA try to grow a pair.

    2. Obviously JA has been taking down his meds because the stupity is now at a defcon 1 level. How is it possible that one of such high stature (a General Manager) can be oblivious to what his job is? Wow!

    3. Frosting on the cake..LDL please give me a reason why they should pull a JH on you and place you in the north end zone at Soldier Field and call it the Bryer's Patch.

    4. It is beyond comprehension that at a time when we need new ideals and passion to bring this team back from the brink. We have a Management team that seems to love to push it over the brink. yes. we did fill a need w/FS...great when will he start 2011? not really the impact player we need today! oh and then we go into this rage of D ..ok. I will accept that we need depth, but you let go of a motor (not trade him) and get one in the draft ??WTF!!! we get a T ..oh great they can compete..well... o.k. while during the season (Suh) -twice mind you is chest thumping like a 400lbs Gorilla over JC's carcass 15 yards back form the line of scrimage during the game.. nice you FU!@#$!$KSTICK'S.. SO then we think about going after a possible FA in the Jets o.k... lets look back last season when we brought in an OLDER PLAYER!! oh great another BFF for LDL..SHIETE!!! We need to get younger not older..crikey!! what's are depth on our front O-Line?? any one I don't and that scares the cuss out of me.. watching LDL miss manage this O-Line with his "Are you smarter than a 5th Grader" attitude.

    5. Interesting how some placed in the corner create a warrior ideal and come out with new, fresh, inventive ways and then you have the one's who create fear, arrogance, and plddong along with antiquated ideals...well which are we????.. Well I don't have to ask all of you that question...you all have expressed the answers..

    I am just disappointed in the missed oportunities and the unimaginative way of thinking in the draft & FA's..and the potential of us being on the bottom of the "Doggie Pile" of the NFC North..yes. I said it..and by the way I think I just thew up in my mouth...

    Jebus..of course my favorite is the baby Jebus out of all the Jebuses..help our gladitor's have heart this year and win inspite of our management. I'm out for now...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I feel it all Lobo, I feel it all. There really is nothing more to be said at this point. Even the Broncos did better than us in the draft - they must be thanking their lucky stars we let them have Eric Olsen. We should seriously consider benching Cutler for the Lions games, perhaps just forfeit the games so we don't lose our interior linemen for the season ...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Well done Lobo.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I'm not going to judge the draft yet. Let's get these guys in some pads and see what they got up in Bourbanais. I love the Major Wright pick and expect him to compete for a starting job. The Bears have a history of playing more guys at the safety position in the last five years than any other team. They also have a history of starting rooks immediately at that position. Major could easily be starting by week 1.

    From ex ND tackle Sam Young, "Major is a hit man. I remember Major hitting one guy so hard he popped his own shoulder out. He went out for a couple plays and popped his shoulder back in, and a few plays later he was hitting somebody else."

    No way did we do worse than Denver. Tim Tebow will be the straw that broke McDaniel's back. What a horrible pick. Still trying to make his team whole after the Cutler drama.

    Clausen will be the best QB out of this draft by far.

    Golden Tate will be the next Hester on returns.

    Suh scares the shit out of me.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Gotta agree about Denver. He spends all the top picks on positions where he already had pro bowlers that he traded due to personality conflicts. Duh. Cutler didn't have a great year last year but we all know he's better than Kyle (+ we got Knox). Scheffler is supposed to be an elite TE and Marshall is truly a beast. Most franchises wouldn't let one of them get off their roster, let alone all 3. Everything I've read about Tebow is great intangibles, not so great QB'ing skills. You draft for skill and intangibles are a bonus. But I'm sure Josh and him can have a great prayer circle. If I was a Donk's fan I'd be beyond pissed.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    But I'm sure Josh and him can have a great prayer cirle? Explain please.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It was meant as a joke. Tebow is VERY upfront about his religion. Not to mention McDaniels is praying Tebow pans out.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I though it was a very funny joke Canada... being a heathen by choice.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I wear a T-shirt that says "Born again Pagan". Always good for a laugh. I don't care about anybody's religion. In fact, I'd rather not know. Tebow is WAAAAY too upfront about his. + the whole "virgin" thing.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Good point. Do you want a virgin leading your team into battle?

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    You guys crack me up. You have your own religions whether you chose to acknowledge it or not. I'm not offended by your viewpoints on the matter because I had the same views for most of my life. Everyone has a faith system and "most" to their peril. Your religion may offer you faith in yourselves, man, idols and the enviroment, but mine offers me eternal salvation through the Worship of Jesus Christ my Savior who is the Son of God, and who died on the cross for all men's sins. I don't expect you to understand that because I too was once ignorant on who Christ is. I try to view others with the same respect I do fellow Christians because no man is without sin and we all miss the mark. Somehow the common misconception is that Christians claim to be holier than thou. I say nay, most Christians have a healthy perspective of their short comings. Just remember that Walter Payton believed this. Mike Ditka believes this and for what it's worth, George S. Patton believed this. Humility takes many forms Gents.

    http://www.dailyherald.com/special/payton/imrem1106.htm

    The things we all love and remember Payton for were deeply rooted in his Love and Faith in God.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I wear a T-shirt that says "Fuck you you fucking fuck". Sometimes I would put duct tape over the "F"s for fun.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Nice......

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    In an uncapped year, I don't see any harm in picking up Faneca. If we get him now we have the whole training camp to see if he still has the juice.

    Its a bit early to start talking about next year, but it looks like we'll be spending the next Round 1 (and maybe also 2 or 3) somewhere on the O-line. With that in mind, there's no harm drafting older free agents to fill the spots for a season or two.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    with that logic how bout we resign Pace?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Pace got his shot and proved he was done. Faneca may have had a rough year with the Jets, but we don't know how he will look in our scheme, with our line around him. If he's done, he's done. If he has a year or two left, that's all we need.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Oh, and for the person who said that benching doesn't matter, I call bullshit there too.

    Bench is a marker for overall upper body strength peoples

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Stronger is always better if you're just as flexible, fast, etc. Not too worried about the 2 reps. There's a weight room and I'm pretty sure the rook will start crashing the iron once he sees some of these guys with their shirts off. Pretty intimidating I'm guessing.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Kreutz will have a field day with him in the showers ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    ... so to speak.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1

    And Deion, much as I dislike the guy, was one in a billion.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    We're broke. Hasn't anyone sussed that yet? The old bird said "Jerry, you c**t, here's $130 million smackeroos, don't spend it all in the same shop..." and then he went out and spent it all in the same shop.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    A 6-5, 224-pound safety, Scott was selected first-team All-Missouri Valley Conference as a senior after leading Northern Iowa with five interceptions. The bears just signed him. Hmm...

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I saw that too B85.

    THIS kid looks to have some serious upside, but looks to be too raw to be a startr this year: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1693199

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Huh?

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Well, on nfl.com he is listed in the top ten.

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&statisticPositionCategory=TIGHT_END&season=2009&seasonType=REG&experience=null&tabSeq=1&qualified=true&Submit=Go

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    B85, it's cool you think he's good man. We've had this argument over and over long before you showed up. Some of us like him and think he deserves a shot to mature, and some of us call him a girl. It's all good man.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Fantasy auctions are like the stick market. It's what people think his output will be in yards and TDs caught.

    Numbers are a by-product of production. Numbers don't tell the whole story, but with a pass catching TE, they do reflect the player's worth. Witten and Gonzalez are studs and they put up big stats BECAUSE they get open and make YAC.

    Olsen is okay, but he's a huge liability in a straight TE formation. Huge. Because he can't sustain blocks on LBs. Go back and watch the games last year.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    MB I totally understand but I was just asking if you think that those type of numbers qualify him as a first rounder or not? And GP you are correct about those last few sentences.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I think JA may be working a deal for Faneca to go to LG. It's a no cap year, Jerry needs to crack open Ginny's piggy bank she keeps under her craftmatic adjustable bed.

    Pssst - Jerry, Ginny keeps the safe in her bedroom on the clapper!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Maybe he's banking on opening her crack and giving her the clap ? What? This blog is murder on dyslexics. Even worse if you're a philosopher too - I sat up all night wondering if there was a dog.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'm with you GPL. If Jerry can squeeze a couple more nickles out of Virginia's saggers, I think Faneca will come to town. Nice Dingle Berry pick.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/two-more-free-agent-signings-for-bears.html

    I think the link was already posted before. But I count 12 free agent signings, 12 more invites to mini-camp, plus Vic Hall. On that list, I count exactly 0 guards (!!!), one tackle and one guard. Yeah... they need Faneca if only so they can have some options at guard.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Correction. One tackle and one center.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I have made my points, but I will restate in hopefully a more interesting way.

    - Major Wright, ok, what choice did we have in the way of safetys that were available at that point since GB leapfrogged us (and they are better at picking talent than our Bears scout team, which is proof enough to me that MB was better) to snag Morgan Burnett. I think Major Wright is still probably more of what we already have in the secondary.

    - Defensive End I couldnt disagree with this pick more, not with the release of Alex. This is just JA picking another DE in a draft to fulfill the same need a crack addict has for another fix.

    - I stated earlier that the liklihood of many of the players that are picked in those later rounds to be good enough to be better than what we have is low, so with that I was ok with the lefevour pick based on that criteria, even though many of you disagree.

    - The concept of "bringing in competition" to any of the positions we have is interesting to me based on the following:

    I play tennis and I notice that whenever I play an opponent that is better than me, two things happen, one is that I get better, two is they get worse. Then, we end up evenly matched after time. What I am getting at is that unless you get talent that is clearly better than what is on your roster, then you arent making your team better, you are just getting more of what you already have and if the new guys are only slightly better, then you are just making them worse after they start working with our mediocre players and head coach. This is where the difference between the 1st and 3rd rounds plays a part in the years of lame talent choices. I am not putting aside that on occasion teams throughout the league find guys in the later rounds that blow down the doors, but really is this common? Get serious.

    - So here we are, pick up Faneca because even though he has declined apparently as reports state, he is still better than what we have on our roster.

    - resign Mike Brown (yea I know you guys all think that ship has sailed) but I think he demonstrated last year that he was healthy in KC and he had a good year. He paid his dues, reconstructed his contract to stay with the Bears before and he brings us leadership and teaching to Major Wright. Or bring in Sharper if it seems he can do what he did last year, or even do some of the things he did last year for NO.

    - There is likely going to be some other roster cuts to provide us with another Oline person, or undrafted rookies potentially that Mike Tice can do something with, regardless of their likely lower talent level having not been drafted and all.

    - I dont really care about a veteren QB unless it is a perfect fit for MM. until then let him develop the guys we have and release Basanez.

    Here we are, lets see what happens. Stanley Cup finishes, NBA finishes and MLB gets rolling and the new Iron Man movie will be out all to just kill time so we can get to what is important in August.

    Go Bears

    addendum, just so you know I dont care if these ass clowns lose there jobs or not as long as we win, all I want to do is win no matter who represents the front office and coaches.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    Major Wright would kill you in tennis. He is also going to kill it at safety this year.

  • In reply to shonbear:

    "If he had been healthy in '09, he would have been a first-round draft pick," NU coach Pat Fitzgerald said. "The Bears got a steal. They got a high-character guy with a high motor and tremendous work ethic, a leader who has an attitude to do anything for that team and the city. You can't coach (his size), and I know he will also have a chip on his shoulder."

    Minutes after the third round was completed Friday night, Corey Wootton sent his agent Mike McCartney a text message.

    "Everything happens for a reason," Wootton wrote. "I can't wait to show everyone what they missed out on."

    I wanted Guards and creative trades but I'm telling you that this kid is going to put the hurt on some people. A young Alex Brown.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Here's hoping your right on that one!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    He could definitely be something good to come out of the draft Waffle, you seemed pumped on him ..

  • In reply to shonbear:

    Yes on Mike Brown!

    Sorry to hear about the Tennis Shon, but that's brave of you to share man, respect.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Go and Murph, nice to still see someones with optimisms. Blind optimism in my mind, but optimism all the same.

    Here

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Even a blind squirrel ... I try to stay optimistic but deep down I think our O will be improved but erratic. Our D will be better just because of Peppers. Our ST's will be special and with some injury good luck for a change maybe we'll have enough to sneak into the playoffs.

    With bad injury luck we could end up 5-11. Should be interesting.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's really hard to bash (or praise) a draft when the first pick your team makes is in round 3. And most of the "expert analysis" falls apart by August, anyway, as we remember guys like Tom Brady, Richard Dent, Joe Montana, Tony Mandarich, Rex Grossman, etc., and how their draft positions did not correlate with their careers.

    With all that in mind:

    From what little tape I've seen of Wright, he does indeed look to be in the mold of Mike Brown, and if he's half the man Brown is, he's a steal in round 3. FS has been like QB for the Bears lately, so I'd like to see Wright come in and take ownership of the position for the next 8 years.

    Wootton: like others, I scratch my head at the logic of cutting AB, just to draft a rookie at the same position--despite the salary savings. Then again, this was a huge value pick, with huge upside. And somehow, despite his issues with other rounds, JA often gets it very, very right in round 4 (see Brown, Alex).

    Moore: it's about time the Bears take a guy known for his coverage skills. He didn't do many bench-reps at the combine. Woo-freaking-hoo. You don't bench-press when you cover or when you tackle--as Deion Sanders (who himself would've been lucky to get 225 up once) said, "I don't need to lift weights. When did I ever have to put Jerry Rice across my chest and lift him?"

    LeFevour: like Wootton, this isn't a need, but instead a value pick--the guy was rated a lot higher. Although his big upside will only be seen if something bad happens to Cutler, this isn't a bad pick, even though O-Line is a more pressing need than DE or QB.

    Webb: I would've thought OG would be higher-priority than OT, and that JA/LS wouldn't been thinking a year+ down the road when Omiyale is gone, but maybe this guy can play inside and/or compete. Ultimately, it's round 7--you're happy if the guy makes the team.

    Overall, yeah, I'd love to have seen more attention paid to the O-line. But this was a thin draft for the O-line, and a deep draft for safeties. Would've been nice to pick up two of 'em with a nifty trade deal like... what GB did. DAMMIT. Well, except the last time the Bears did a trade up to grab a guy GB wanted, we got Rex, and GB ended up with Aaron Rodgers.

    I'd be perfectly happy if this works out the same way, then.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You're startin to scare me MB. I agree 100%. I think we could have gotten 2 solid prospects that could have started if JA had of played this one right. That was my whole argument with the picks. Moore, LePew and Bigfoot will probably not even be on the roster in 2 years. Wootten is a good player but did we need him at this point in time? Surely we could have picked up someone off of waivers just like him. I guess it reminds me too much of trading for Gaines Adams. I smell Marrinelli behind the wooten signing and he has a terrible personnel track record.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I think we see results from Marinelli this year. He's highly regarded as a 'teacher' of linemen (teaching the Whys?) by people who know, as opposed to being a coach (teaching the Whats).

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    We were not in this draft to start with and again, picture a panhandler at Harrah's in Vegas looking for loose change in the slot machines. That was JA at this years draft.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://www.mopo.ca/uploaded_images/spitzer-panhandler-764176.jpg

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Rooks:
    http://img.moronail.net/img/6/1/4261.jpg

  • In reply to gpldan:

    :o)

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I like it Trac, if for no other reason than 'panhandler' is Irish slang for wanker :o)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    We have the coaches who can produce great players. Mike Tice is a offensive line genius, Mike Martz can create amazing offenses, and Rod Marnelli can create playmakers on the line. Sometimes to see the whole picture or to make it work, you have to have the main pieces in place. If this season is dissapointing then it will be our head coach's fault and he will be removed. Everything is there, the evaluators of the best talent is there. We can't go wrong but if we do it was Jerry and Lovie and they will be gone. So don't hate the players just yet. Let's see what Martz does, Tice does, and Manellie. They all have playmakers..let's see if they can make them perform.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    The Bears did OK, with what little they had to work with this draft. I was glad we did not sacrifice next years picks. McDumiels, continues to dismantle the Broncos, he is a complete Idiot! Major Wright was a great pick at safety, I am looking forward to getting him on the field and knocking some heads off. He is dubbed, Major Pain, he loves to hit & destroy his opponents. Thats the type of player that fits Da Bears! He will put fear into opposing receivers for sure. I also like the Wootten pick, he is a monster at 6'6" and 270, and he is just finishing up his rehab. He is expected to be 100% by camp. He was rated very high until his injury. He came back early and was rehabbing while playing, he got better as the season went on, as he was healing. He had 3 of his sacks in the last few games of the season. We obviously know him well as a player in our backyard, he was checked out & worked out extensively. I can see him starting opposite Peppers this year, although we do rotate the players. I think he will turn out to be a Steal. I didnt really like the the Moore pick, he is only 188 lbs at 5'11" and it is True, he only benched 225 2 times? He will get lit up in the NFL unless he gets some serious strength. We should have addressed our O-Line with that pick. I was furious with picking LeFevour at Q.B, again we need help on the O-Line that is a need, not Q.B. They could have signed a Vet for cheap in free agency, rather than waste our pick on a Q.B. Angelo waits till the 7th rd, then gets an O-Lineman? Webb is a project, with not much to be enthused about, probably a practice squad guy. I know he chipped Tices tooth, but I havent seen much on gameday from him, which is what matters. If the Bears make a move and get Faneca or another good F-Agent Guard, then I will feel a bit better. But as it stands I am not very impressed. Draft grade C. But I will hold out hope, as that is all I can do. I nor anyone else knows how they will work out until they actually play, which could take a year or two. BEAR DOWN! GO BEARS!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Did you just call McDaniels McDumiels?

    Somewhere in heaven, Fred Rogers just shed a tear.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    We have the coaches who can produce great players. Mike Tice is a offensive line genius, Mike Martz can create amazing offenses, and Rod Marnelli can create playmakers on the line. Sometimes to see the whole picture or to make it work, you have to have the main pieces in place. If this season is dissapointing then it will be our head coach's fault and he will be removed. Everything is there, the evaluators of the best talent is there. We can't go wrong but if we do it was Jerry and Lovie and they will be gone. So don't hate the players just yet. Let's see what Martz does, Tice does, and Manellie. They all have playmakers..let's see if they can make them perform.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    They've moved Izzy around enough Murph. He's proven he can play inside and this year we'll see if he has the quickness to play the outside. But leave the guy at one position for his own mental well-being. You can never have enough DE's, especially after the lack of pass rush we had last year. I saw Wooten play live a couple times the year before he got hurt and thought that he had NFL athleticism. Hopefully last year was his rehab year and he is ready to go.

    Worm, I agree with you about Beekman. He definitely is next in line as far as the center spot; but I think he can help at guard this year. I think he played better in '08 when he started the whole year at guard than the coaches gave him credit for. I think he is further along than Lance Louis. But, never under-estimate a guy that concussed one of his own teammates during a team meeting, leaving him with a broken eardrum and a fractured cheekbone. If he can harness that anger and apply it to the field, he could contribute on the line. I thought Schaeffer looked good run blocking last year when he got in there.

    The best move of the off-season might have been permanently moving Chris Williams to his natural position, the left side. He looked pretty good and way more comfortable there in the last couple games last year. The Bears banking on Omilaye working better on the right side scares me. The

    The Bears seem content going in with pretty much the same offensive line they had last year. This was their weakest link and greatest concern last year (not too ahead of the lack of a pass rush). The fact that the majority of the prospective line played a full year together last year should help. Here is to hoping that this unit gels this year.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Crown, isn't it sad when our best move was moving our LT to uh ... LT ...?

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Some more Free Agent signings and some rookie tryout hopefuls. Juice Williams?? Nice!

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/two-more-free-agent-signings-for-bears.html

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Juice Williams? don't you dare JA. Can't throw, can't run Martz's offense, doesn't have the arm strength or accuracy. if this was Sega College Football 97 he would be an awesome player. i will puke if he is given a contract.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    +100 points for the Sega Refrence lol

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    If anyone is questioning whether Major Wright can blow people up, I suggest you watch what he does to his own teammate in practice at :27.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG4v-VczrjE

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    I'm hearing a lot about this guys hitting ability ... anyone worried that he may suffer from Hillenmeyer Syndrome in the tackling department? Last line of defence and all that. See what I mean, you draft a FS becuase that's all that was left instead of drafting next year's Eric Berry ... we'll see.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Crown.. what about Oklahoma game and the LSU game.. He is gonna be good. He might need to be taught some things..but he will be good

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    My point exactly - maybe ... might be ...will be ... - we need a free safety that knows his shit NOW !! We were the worst defense we have ever been last year and we don't have time for more projects. The window for this team is small and we need to win now not later.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Looks like he packs a big punch, has good instincts and is a bit reckless. Characteristics I like in a safety. I'm not worried he's not Taylor Mays size. Although it's nice, history has shown you don't have to be that big to be successful at the safety position. I saw that hit during the Oklahoma game Bears 85, hot damn!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Watch the LSU hit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3akxXl74NE

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Just keep watching it till it shows it all. You will be thankful for watching all of it. Promise!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Just keep watching it till it shows it all. You will be thankful for watching all of it. Promise!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The Bronco's scored bigtime picking Tebow. The Kid rocks and will be their future Hall of Fame QB.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Wow. That's a pretty bold statement. I haven't heard anyone say that. Hope you're wrong. I hate the Donk's fans for being such A-holes about Cutler. Not to mention stupid. Trying to put on a happy face about losing Marshall is pathetic. Not pointing a finger at you Trac, just Donk's fans in general.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Just to be crystal, completely clear. It's not about the guys JA picked for me, it's about the guys he didn't.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    +1

    Although the QB move was just a brain freeze.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I HAVE to believe that you're being a sarchastic ass trac.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I went fishing for Canada and I caught me a big one. Blaaaaaahaaa. Of course I was bieng sarcastic but I think the kid will surprise. Just a gut feeling.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Remember, catch and release.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The guy has a point but if you're grading a team's draft on the 6th round pick ...

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    No, just the fact that we needed a guard and not a QB. Or Eric Olsen to cover Kreutz. Is anyone actually behind the QB pick, please stand up ...

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Well done Trac. 100 points.

    I think he'll end up making a very mediochre TE or h-back, or some such other garbage.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    From Yahoo:

    Okay, let's get this straight. The Bears trade pretty much everything, up to and including George Halas' first leather helmet, for quarterback Jay Cutler(notes). They have needs all over their roster, despite a very active free agency plunge. And in their draft, which didn't start until the 75th overall pick, they spend one of their five picks on ... Central Michigan quarterback Dan LeFevour, who refused to throw at the combine because he wasn't familiar with the receivers. Ouch, guys.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yes yes ! GPL - nearly flipped when I read that. And still we drafted him.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    +1 Trac !!
    And with Brady Quinn they've got two HOFers on the same roster !! Hwah!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Brady Quinn will probably never start another game in the NFL. I figure Orton will start this season but next year Tebow will be the man. Orton must really hate the Gators.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    actually Trac.. I think he will keep playing.. I wonder what happened to the last team that trusted a gator.. hmmm

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Not because he will beat out Orton but because McLown gave up 3 picks for him. In the NFL that translates to future starter. Remember Cedric Benson.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    I bet Juice Williams beats out LeFavour, who shall now be known as "La Favor", because we did that kid a favor by drafting him when he shoulda fell off the board.

    I got Juice fever, not favor! Come to Rook camp in a white Bronco you magnificent bastard!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    BAAAAHAHAHAHA... loved that last line Gp. Brilliant.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Juice would definitely give up that wildcat option. That guy was exciting to watch in college; quick quick feet.

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Minnesota signed ten guys that went undrafted ...

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Some important dates leading up to the regular season. Save this to your desktop or make a mental note:

    http://boards.chicagobears.com/forums/thread/2062611.aspx

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    ok.. Anyone hate Major Wright? because I sure as hell don't.. Watch some of his Youtube vidoes.. he performed big in big games and gives everything.. Damn I am glad we got him

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Denver got Demaryius Thomas and took Eric Olsen after we amazingly, incredibly drafted a QB who's name I don't care about. LeFlower, Pepe le Peu .... whogivesafuck. I'll judge the draft. It was a Jerry Angelo draft and therefore there was no rhyme nor reason to it. Whatever/whomever he drafted, those positions will all have to be re-drafted when that fucker is in a mental home being asked "What made you think you were a GM?" and being shown inkblots ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    We're in no position to slag off Denver when we had a far worse draft. They got themselves a quality lineman and a quality receiver. What did we get? 4.5 dudes.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Really? You wouldn't be pissed about trading Cutler, Sheffler and Marshall? Please. You've been posting about a million times how great those guys are. Also, you've been posting relentlessly about Alex being let go. Alex pales in comparison to the talent Cutler and Marshall have. Cutler is a top ten QB and Marshall is probably the best WR in the league. Yes they traded them instead of releasing Brown but that's because Alex was overpaid. Do I wish we still had Alex? Yes.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    McDaniels is making questionable moves because he had more draft picks than he was mature enough to handle in a football responsible manner. Akin to giving your kid too much pocket money, they just end up blowing it on candy and cheap worthless trinkets.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    So.. Greg Olsen as of 2009 was a top ten tight end. That is a bad number one pick? Jw..

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Top 10 in what B85?

    YAC? Times he didn't jump/dive for the ball? Number of whiffed blocks? Number of times he didn't even try to block downfield?

    Ok, I believe he was a top 10 TE under those measurements.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    In this years fantasy auctions, he's dropped to 15. That's from an average placement of 7th last year.

    My guess is by August, he'll be out of the top 20.

    He is, and it pains me to say this, the poor man's Shockey. If Martz is wise, he will use him in the slot in 3 wide sets, with Forte or Taylor rotating back there and forgo the FB. Olsen will move from the slot into the backfield in the offset I formation at times.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Rank:
    http://www.nfl.com/fantasy/rankings/te

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fantasy ratings? You could have the best fantasy player and not win games.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm not even going to bother. I'm done with Greg Olsen 101.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Indeed. thank you sir.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The guy is a fucking 'fabulous ASCII penis' for christs sake.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    The 13th Free Agent signing:

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/agent-virginias-hall-the-13th-free-agent-signing.html

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Why is it we can't find players that are tall and good at one position?

  • In reply to Joseph:

    I'm with you '85. I don't understand all the hate for a TE who was in the top ten in receptions and yards last year. I know he isn't a good blocker, but that was never an advertised part of his game. How about if Olsen has 1000 recieving yards this year (which I think he very well could), we no longer call him a woman on this site.

    I'm way more upset at the fact we paid a solely blocking TE who not many people really knew about (besides MB being the SD local)a boat load of money. A blocking TE has not and will not see that type of money again. Everyone has seemed to automatically accept him because he fits in the Martz style system, which might not be around next year.

    With that money, we could be first in line for Otogwe, possibly already have Faneca, could have been a player for Marshall, and probably could have locked Boldin in.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Crown, you and I will have to respectfully agree to disagree on greggie... as we've both proven over the months.

    My deal is that Manu is actually a damn good pass catcher, for a friggin' house - and obviously he's pretty much an extra Tackle on whatever side he lines up on, so we got that going for us

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Until DA got in the lineup, Olsen was the only one Cutler trusted. Not Olsen's fault.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Ah, that was another productive Monday morning at work.

  • In reply to Bears85Sweetness23:

    Hold me back ...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    It

  • In reply to GoBears:

    I'm tired of this already. It is not foolish to analyze the draft at this point - we didn't draft a guard. That's foolish. we don't need to wait three years to say 'You know what, maybe we should have drafted offensive linemen that year, then maybe Cutler wouldn't have died.'

    When your running game was non-existent and your Franchise was running for his beautiful life, then you simply have to address the O-line. We know there's no money left to do shit in Free Agency, and if there IS money left, why didn't we sign a vet at FS until we could afford to draft the best there is? Why did we draft a QB instead of Olsen? Okay, so maybe there's an issue with Olsen, but we can't use a guard? We need a vet backup QB, not another project, and you don't draft them ...

    2009 draft - still deliberating ? So far we got Johnny Knox, a small, fast kid, pissy route runner who can actually bother to throw a block on running plays. Eh ... and that's it so far ...

    Go back through the rest of Angelo's drafts, I'm done spreading the word. They suck beyond belief. And this will prove to be the worst of them no doubt.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I know Olsen is a center, but we'll need one when Kreutz is on his back - if he even makes it back to the field ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Allot of centers have come into this league playing guard. The good ones anyhow.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I have read all of the comments about, why a QB instead of Olsen? You pick best available and have you all forgotten about Beekman. He outperformed FO but was not getting the coin. He is a solid BC guy that should start at C if Olin can't or guard if Louis doesn't pan out. Our line should be better just having a year together and no Pace.

  • In reply to worm0922:

    But what happens if/when Kreutz goes down? Beekman into center and OMG back to LG - tragedy and lights out for Cutler.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    In a related story, I chipped my front two teeth in a 5th grade Ho-down accident. And for the record I did not end up dating the girl who threw me to the floor face first.

  • In reply to Shady:

    +1

  • In reply to Shady:

    Did she use a flying head scissors?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    A spectrum ZX80? Fuck all, that's harsh. Next you'll be comparing Lovie to the Osborne.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Tough draft to watch unfold, especially when there were "need" guys available when we went on the clock. Major Wright, I'm ok with. Great Florida athlete with an instinct for the ball and the big hit. The DB from KSU?????? They must know something no one else does on that kid. We missed out on Asamoah, and Pietrus from Arkansas. LeFevour, I've watched him quite a bit, and the kid has the heart of a lion. He's bigger than I thought, at 6'3 and 230. I think when big nasty Lance Louis starts this year, we'll see just what a mauler he is. Instead of taking that tackle in the 7th from DeVry or wherever the hell he played, I'd have gone with that Glover kid from Texas Tech. At least he looks like a slightly crazy badass. Anyway, as miserable as I am with some of these draft misses, I can't wait to see it all unfold this fall. Who knows, if the labor dispute continues to be a pain in the ass, this might be the last football any of us watch for a long time. Bear Down.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Every Bear's draft is tough to watch Matty. Has any single person been more destructive to the Chicago Bears than Jerry Angelo?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Does the name Dave Wannestedt ring a bell? How 'bout Michael McCaskey? JA bites the bag but he pales in comparison to those two.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I don't watch college ball so I have no idea about any of these guys. But in all honesty, none of us know how this will turn out. You guys have been on a cryin' jag for two days. Let it go. Let's wait and see what the roster looks like in a month or two. Most drafts you can only count on getting a decent player in the first 3 rounds. Anything beyond that is gravy.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Somehow I think our roster will actually look WORSE in a month or two Canada - look at the jag-off who's in charge of it. I'm thinking of Jamar Williams and Kellen Davis being airlocked by The Master. I don't watch college ball either but I'm pretty sure none of those guys was a guard, Faneca gave up 7 sacks last year? How many QB hits I wonder? The Jets are only saving 2.25 million letting him go. More to that than meets the eye ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Faneca wasn't great last year and the tread's getting pretty thin. His contract for this year was $7.5 mil. Same as with Alex. Overpaid and unable to trade because of it. I've got no problem with JA signing him as long as Tice can start anyone he chooses.

    I don't understand why you think they're going to shitcan Williams or Davis? Both aren't making a lot of dough. Those are the one that always get sent down the road. I would like to see more of both of them.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I think 5.25 mill was guaranteed though, so what's the deal in letting him go, cos it ain't about the dough ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    It's always about the dough.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    DeVry...that's classic right there

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    Free Agent signings...

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/bears-set-to-sign-two-local-free-agent-products.html

  • In reply to Joseph:

    How did I know the receiver would be listed at 6'0? Undoubtedly a lie also ...

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Rhodes Scholar / "Roads" Scholar jokes aside, considering the state of the defensive backfield and the need at safety, I found passing up Myron Rolle in favor of Dan Lefevour a big disappointment.

    The knock on Lefavour (Chicago area high school product, I believe)is that he racked up all his record setting mileage against Mid-America Conference also-rans and looked overmatched against teams from "Big Boy" conferences. That's EXACTLY what we saw when he played Arizona, a first divison team but in a clearly down year for the Pac 10, here in Tucson in 2009.

    He was 18 of 31 for all of 108 yards and 1 INT.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    CB.COM are priceless. Little poll they've got going :

    What are your thought of the Bears 2010 draft ? Ahem.

    * Needed earlier picks (!)
    * Excited about possibilities (Nyah huh hehehheheh! I like that!)
    * We added depth (AHHHHHHHH HA! Larry, you kill me...)
    * Ask in 3 years

    I looked and I looked but nowhere did it say ..

    * We screwed the pooch, filmed it with our face clearly visible and holding up a passport, then posted it on Youporn.

    I swear to god there are people defending this draft over on the message boards on CB.COM. I swear. One guy even posted a thread defending the QB pick ... and he's using our oxygen ...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Tough draft to watch unfold, especially when there were "need" guys available when we went on the clock. Major Wright, I'm ok with. Great Florida athlete with an instinct for the ball and the big hit. The DB from KSU?????? They must know something no one else does on that kid. We missed out on Asamoah, and Pietrus from Arkansas. LeFevour, I've watched him quite a bit, and the kid has the heart of a lion. He's bigger than I thought, at 6'3 and 230. I think when big nasty Lance Louis starts this year, we'll see just what a mauler he is. Instead of taking that tackle in the 7th from DeVry or wherever the hell he played, I'd have gone with that Glover kid from Texas Tech. At least he looks like a slightly crazy badass. Anyway, as miserable as I am with some of these draft misses, I can't wait to see it all unfold this fall. Who knows, if the labor dispute continues to be a pain in the ass, this might be the last football any of us watch for a long time. Bear Down.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    dammit, I hate it when that happens.

  • I think if you gave Jerry and Lovie truth serum, they would tell you that this draft was a hope we get to stay beyond 2010 draft. They're not expecting a single contribution from any of the guys.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    With the exception of Wright Jeff. I do think he will contribute this year.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/24/bears-gm-who-would-not-consider-alan-faneca/
    If we spend the money on faneca we freed up when we released AB I would be happy and it would end my bitch session concerning the matter

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Wright seems to be the only thing that was positive about this draft. I am thinking he may be the only contributor on the list.

    Another DE boggles my mind especially one that already had a serious injury in his career. How come we haven't seen more reps out of the last 2 we drafted. I guess jumping out of a pool is good enought to stay on the roster. Why not Petrus to bolster the O-line....

    I am really pissed about the selection of Moore. I think he had a massive 2 reps at 225 on the bench. I think I could pull that off. Nothing like a weak, inexperienced DB to add to the list of the under performing backfield.

    I would have rather seen an OG picked instead of a quarterback but it makes sense being that JC may have a serious injury after the 1st game against Suh and the Lions. Still no O-line picks at this point in the draft. WTF? Almost seems like JA wants to see JC get hurt this year or wants Tice to fail miserably. JA's record drafting O-lineman has to be the worst in the league. Time to dump at least one of the other benchwarming QB's though.

    Webb may be a good pick especially with Tice at the helm. Between him and Wright I think the best two picks of this draft. Ugh...

    If they don't pick up a guard in FA I think the fans should take out some insurance policies on Jaybird. With some of the bruising d-lines in the NFC north he is in for a long year.

    All in all I would have to say...Way to go JA... You suckbag!

  • In reply to blt2lst:

    Ho-ly-sheite muslim!! I thought that was a fucking typo last time one of you guys put that down!?!?! The dude did TWO fucking reps at 225? TWO!?!?!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm 6'0 or 6'1.. weight 170 and I can bench that 3 or 4 times. My max is 245 but this guy is either blazing fast and weak.. or just really weak.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Want to know how Jerry did? Go to the front page of fucking Yahoo.com and you'll see a big picture of Jay Cutler under the headline, "The best and worst of the 2010 draft"

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Have to love what the seahawks did - and wtf are the Jets doing letting TJ walk and now Leon Washington for a fifth? Man, did the seahawks just get a lot better. And yes, MB that's about the best we can asay about the draft - we got 5 dudes ... well 4 and a smurfette who can do 2 reps of 225. Jebus.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I could do two reps of 225. Right now. And I have a bum shoulder, weight 170 and haven't worked out in six months. That's fucking sad.

  • In reply to blt2lst:

    2 reps. Did smurfette do 2 reps and left it at that? Oh Jebus H. Cleopatra. Angelo is on crack cocaine with PCP chasers ...

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I like that Webb chipped Tice's tooth during his private workout.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    That's some good news at least ...

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Bears must sign Alan Faneca now. Great locker room guy and a proven warrior. The ex Jet can still play at a high level and we need a left guard bad.

  • In reply to tkfay:

    Should have signed him two years ago, but give him a jersey or Cutler's history.

  • Jeff great point but you know how we are. We want them to start because other teams pick players at the same level and they start. We only have free agency left now. So.. who can pick up that will protect Cutler and catch his passes?

  • Disgust. Correct.

  • +1

    And I saw how you did that doc.

  • Good one!

  • Sup Doc?

  • "Not to mention that Kruetz is old and descending rapidly along with Garza at right GUARD, we have nothing on the O-line to feel good about except severely GUARDED optimism for Chris Williams"

    See how you did that?

  • Well said doc. See my post below for 100% support for all of your statements.

  • Ahhhhh... math. I salute you sir.

  • Doc I get you, what I am trying to say is I dont think the new guys are that much better than the old ones until proven wrong. Furthermore sometimes what you see is a better player might play down to the competition which to me leads to a depletion of their skills, but when challenged by a significantly better player they want to strive harder to get as good as their oppenent or better. Just kine of brain storming. If there wasnt a difference between a 1st or second rounder vs a 3rd through 7th rounder than there wouldnt be such a disparity in pay between the two. Yes, there are times when a player didnt reach their potential because of recoverning from an injury or something, but those stories are interensting, but not as commmon (not an expert opinion by any stretch)

  • I see how you did that Doc. Circular reference... if you will.

  • didn't ever do it. Sorry doc.

  • I getcha Murph... and I was serious about the optimism. I'm glad some of you guys still have it. I also respect your pov and wasn

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I never got the whole 'optimism' thing ... I look at a glass that holds 50% of its capacity and I see a glass that is both half empty and half full at the same time. To see it as either one or the other is to not fully perceive the situation. Doc, equation?

  • Exactly on the last point Doc.

    I don't think the Chicago ownership or fans will let JA and LS do another DB to KR/WR project again - at least not before they're run out of town on a rail.

    With some good coaching and some polish/experience, sounds like this kid could be a beast in the defensive backfield.

  • Love Mike Brown but as a coach. All the guys that want him back say he had a good year in KC. They aren't trying to re-sign him.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Who needs Mike Brown for a year when we've got NFL legends like Craig Steltz, Danieal Manning and Kevin Payne - who is so desperate to keep his job, he appears on WCG taking 'questions' from fans. Kinda like Greg Olsen suddenly becoming active in Twitterland when the rumors of his trade started ...

  • Saw it from another poster who said he wasn't sure whether it was 7 or 8 and then some guy said it was 7 - can't think where I saw it now, possibly in the comments under the article where Angelo said Faneca would be worth considering by any team that was looking for Linemen. I kind of added that statement to the fact that we didn't pick up a guard to mean that perhaps Angelo thinks our line is good? I agree, he's 33 and bolstered maybe the best line in football last year. We could (and probably will) do a lot worse.

  • I'm still in shock over the Greg Olsen was a good pick comment.

    Wow

  • In reply to PeoriaMatt:

    Welcome to my world Matt. Can you believe he has 22K 'followers' on Twitter, to me that just proves it's only twats that tweet ..

  • Izzy's too small to go back inside now ... and Steve McMichael should shut his pie hole and realise his career is over and the spotlight doesn't want to know ...

  • I didn't even like the Wright pick. We can't wait for a FS to develop out of that, should have drafted for the O-line, where for some reason, Angelo just continues to ignore the foundations of a team. Oh yeah, he's a clueless prick.

  • mmmmm... 50 points, you get.

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