Living Without McKie, Vasher

Two weeks ago the Chicago Bears made a statement to the NFL by cutting $100 million in paychecks in one twenty-four hour period.  This week they made a statement to fans by cutting Jason McKie and Nathan Vasher.  The statement?  "We're sorry."

How many times did Ron Turner turn to Jason McKie on third-and-short or at the goal line in crucial situations?  How many times did Jason McKie come up empty?  The fullback dive was my personal Waterloo, an inescapably horrible play call that lived at the top of Turner's to do list.  More than just ineffective in specific situations, it's failure symbolized the lack of toughness that plagued the heart of the Bears offense.  They had no Nagurski.  No Hilgenberg, Bortz or Thayer.  They seemed hell-bent on reminding us by ramming McKie into a hole-less middle of the line of scrimmage.  So often over these past two season, the Bears have felt very close to being a good football team.  Cutting McKie got them a bit closer.

The last time Nathan Vasher was good so was the Bears defense.  His steady decline, from borderline Pro Bowler and premiere ballhawk to soon-to-be UFL standout, has been mirrored by the rest of the roster as they've descended the league rankings and grown old before our very eyes.  Lovie and company continually marched Vasher onto the field, changing his role, in a desperate attempt to rediscover the exhilarating talent of the 2006 campaign.  They never did.
And now the team seems to have finally moved on.  The more days that pass since the end of the 2009 season, the more it seems the 2010 team will actually look and feel different.  Gone are the Lovie stalwarts, seemingly promised a roster spot due to an emotional connection to the head coach.  Here are the Martz-specific skill position guys and high profile defensive stars.  Here is a new era with the same leader.  I just wonder if it can work. 

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  • 1st for me!! Da Bears!!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I actually came on here just to talk smack about Notre Dame getting knocked out of the tourney and how a #2 seed is trying to join them but now I have an article to read too. Thanks Blogfather.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    So I filled out two brackets on Monday and of course I have to go and pencil The Fighting Irish into the sweet 16 'cause it's freaking St. Patricks Day and I'm feeling the luck of the Irish. This happens EVERY YEAR! Damn it.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Duke usually annihilates my brackets when they lose in the 2nd Rd.

  • In reply to Shady:

    I meant Wednesday not Monday. It's been a long week.

  • In reply to Shady:

    June 1st. Atogwe. Coming soon.

    Draft that WR MB mentioned ... Demaryius Thomas ? Draft a guard, tackle and center ... and 10-6 looks like the minimum expectation for next season. All blogged out ....

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    The last step is to get rid of Lovie's favorite athlete D. Manning on D or give him a reserved special teams role. The kid is no doubt athletic, but has very low football IQ and almost always looks lost and out of position in coverage.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    That might not be a bad idea. Ever since we signed Jennings, Manning has now demanded a contract or a trade, we have him tendered for a 3rd rd draft pick. I dont think Manning is in a position to demand anything, although he & his agent said he will hold out! He doesnt do anything real well, he is pretty good at kick returns, but we have several other players to fit that role as good or better than him. I would be happy to get a 3rd rd pick for him. That would give us 2-3rd rd picks, that could help.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Unless we are telling Manning to do something involving running in a straight line, he is a liability. Hold out? Hahahaha. Good luck with that.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Forrest Gump

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Jeff, I agree that these moves made us better, we trimmed the fat, so to speak! The love for Mckie I could never understand, 7 years he was here?? The more I here Mike Martz talk the more encouraged I am. You can tell he knows Football. Listening to Ron Turner talk was like talking football with a complete Idiot!! Most people try to learn from mistakes, but not Turner, he made the same mistakes, time after time!! Rumors I heard of Turners playbook being big & difficult is a laugher. All we ever saw was a handful of plays done over and over, to the point all his plays were predictable, everyone knew what he was going to call,LOL. I cant wait to see what our promising young talent can do on offense now, with a great offensive mind & teacher. Mike Tice will make a big impact on the o-Line, he is being overlooked, I think. Heistand was a terrible O-Line coach & it showed in the O-Lines production. Can we Please sign a good free agent F-safety already??? When you have invested as much as the Bears have already, whats a few more Million to shore up a big piece of the puzzle at F-Safety?? One more move like that could really shore this team up, then go get O-line & safety help in the draft. A trade or two could even net us another 3rd rd pick(Manning) or a 2nd rd pick(Olsen) in the draft. All this is speculation and probably dreamy, but why not? Just Sayin!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I fear LDL suffers from the same affliction as Senor Turner.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    And what will Bennett, Knox, Hester and IglooLazy-arse amke of Martz' tome of a playbook ? Back to remedial school for those boys. Methinks it will be headless chickens for the 'first quarter' or so of the season .... Shabba putting up video game numbers while the kids flunk every week.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    agreed

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Or blitzing off the corner...

    but my grandma could do that

  • In reply to Joseph:

    ok, ok. So focusing on one task and one task only. Like run to the endzone or blitz and kill that motherfucker with the ball right there. No complex problem solving or multi-tasking. Agreed?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Yup, the guy is terrible against the run and ALWAYS late to the ball against the pass.

    The only thing he does well is return kickoffs. Oh the many blood vessels that he's caused me to pop when he slaps at the ball when he should be wrapping up on tackles. I'm turning red just typing this..

    Serenity now..Serenity now!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Shit, if he's that good at blitzing, let's line him up at fucking linebacker. Gain 20 lbs, convert to 3-4 and blitz like mad. His marginal cover skills is already an upgrade over, say, Hillenmeyer.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Agree with you guys. Manning is expendable. Move Hester back to full time kickoff and punts and let Knox spell him.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    1. It would certainly solve the problem of having him at SS.
    2. It would improve our returns.
    3. We'd be getting the best out of Devin.
    4. Our WR corps gets instantly better, and taller on average.
    5. We get a nice pick ?
    6. He can leave and develop his full potential some place they know how to do that.

    Yep, 6 good reasons to do that ...

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I hear Nasty Nate might be getting a look in SD. He know's Rivera and they need someone to replace that crazy asshole Cromartie.

    Why did we sign the midget from indy? I think he's even shorter than dj moore. Maybe they'll make the two of them wear sombraro's with tortilla chips and guacamole and walk around the locker room and whoever is better at it they keep. I coudn't see either one of them playing much more of a role than that, chip midgets.

    Bears fan, You appear to know your stuff, you have moved up from #16 bears fan to # 12. LOL!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Don't encourage him.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Thanks Coach, I am humbled. This is a great group of Bear fans here, I like to post on here. The Best Bear site I have found yet. You all bring great opinions, right, wrong or indifferent! I like to interact with other Bear fans & I like to learn more about the Bears from other knowledgeable fans on here. I just say NO to Hate and attacks, unless they are against the Bears Enemies, LOL!!! Peace!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I can't believe we haven't lined him up in the slot yet?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It's was probably on it's way with Lovie and Turner.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hey Trac: I hear the Bears are going to try Manning at Outside Linebacker this year,LOL!! Then if that goes bad, they will work him out as a punter,LOL.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I kept waiting and waiting for them to line up Manning in the Wildcat. Man, I am glad I will never see that!

  • In reply to BobbyDouglass:

    Ummm, meant to say "I hope I will never see that".

    Need more coffeeeeeeee.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Too bad cloning football players isn't an option yet. Could you imagine 11 Daneal's on the field at the same time?

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Fan like I told everyone else before, we're pretty well set. We have our eye on a kid who could be mannings twin.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    That was Cruel Trac. But probably true. Damn, another Percocet and some more beer. I hate when this happens,LOL. You guys are Killing me, ha,ha,ha..

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I Still want a Damn Free Safety!!! Just Sayin!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I am starting to get Bitter Beer Bear Face. We NEED a F-Safety, put up the Billboards, I will chip in. If it seems like I am talking with a sense of Urgency, well, Your Damn Right I am!! But Hey, what do I know, I am just a fan, who watches all their games..

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Hey,I will let you guys in on a little Secret, I want a F-Safety. Ha,ha,ha,ha.. Come on Bears, lets get it Done!!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    did you get it, "kid".

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    How much are Manning and Olsen's contracts going to be worth the next couple of years? Both of them are good role players and poor stars; many teams would benefit from a good recieving tight end and many benefit from a good return man who could be an above average backup DB. The problem with Manning and Olsen is that we call them stars, but do we pay them like stars?

    A second round pick is high enough that it would yield a starting guard for hopefully 5+ years, but what will we get with the other pick? Would you trade stability at guard for a second round safety? Would you try for a starting free safety in the third round? Trade both third rounders for a starter in the second? Does this organization have a good track record of picking the right top level talent in the draft?

    Just saying, we could do worse than Olsen or Manning. If they aren't too pricey (though it sounds like Manning is) maybe they are worth keeping until a more definite prospect emerges.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Oddly, I suspect I am not the only one on this blog that believes maybe we're better off with Angelo picking in the third round rather than the first.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    sadly +1

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I resent that remark.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Well, from our "Speak of the Devil" department...

    Guess who wants new contract?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0317-bears-chicago--20100316-7,0,3055776.story

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I forgot that Manning was a 2nd Rd pick. Now I am really pissed.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    At least he contributed more than that jerk Benson. I told Lovie to keep Thomas Jones but he wouldn't listen.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Doesn't JA make the actual trades?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I do the dirty work but Lovie wispers in my ear occassionally.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I wonder what the lack of interest is in Atogwe? Maybe he slept with one of the coaches daughters or something?? Your guess is as good as mine??

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I apologize for Lovies flipant answer Lobo and I will try to answer your question. As GM it is my responsibility to address both sides of the ball which I have done with our recent FA signings. We have some minor concerns but I am confident that we will be a competitive team by the time Sept rolls around. We believe that this years draft will allow us to fill in the remaining gaps.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    You do realize that you traded the 1st days picks away right? Which 3rd rounder do you see that can start at FS and both G spots?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Most informed Bears fans realize we signed a top notch FS last week and based on our last two performances against Minn. and Det. I don't see our offensive line being much of a concern. Kellen Davis, Manu and Dez will all be on the line at the same time and we will no longer require a true guard as our running backs will only be used as decoys. Kapeesh.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    good stuff

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It is frustrating not knowing what your team is planning to do!! It seems easy as a fan, to point out the defects. We all heard Lovie and Angelo plead their case for an upgrade at safety? So where is it?? I applaud the moves so far, but we have to address the biggest weakness of all, Free Safety!! When a team has no 1st or 2nd rd pick, yet they Need to fill a key position, they have to turn to F-Agency!! Which is where our Bears are now, we have to get Proven help at F-Safety, no more gambles and wishes!! You Just Dig In a little more during this un-capped season!! That is if you are seriously "In It To Win It"!! GO BEARS!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    JA and LDL should chip in and pay for the FS if Virginia won't pony up any more. Think of it as an investment. If they each kick in $2.5 mill and we go deep in the playoffs and they get contract extensions, they will make more than if they get canned and don't get paid at all for a year or two or take much lower rung jobs making a couple hundred grand a year. (That really pisses me off typing that a huge demotion for these idiots is a couple hundred grand a year job if not more.)

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Z, there's two things you don't mess with. My money and my food.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Losing will mess with your money. What if we got every buffet owner in Chicago to promise you free food if we win a SB? You should save way more than that measily $2.5 mill each year.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I know you want to ask me a question Doc. It won't make you less of a man, fire away.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Football is by far my favorite sport but I love the NCAA tournament. Shit is crazy.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    #3 seed Georgetown gone. By double digits. Nuts. Sorry the Bulls and Blackhawks are self destructing before my eyes and we won't sign any vet S, O-line or WR's. This is my sports fix right now.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    And #6 seed Marquette. Gone. I am really bad at the whole bracketology thing.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    R.I.P. Nathan Vasher. You were awesome....once.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Watching NCAA in the sports lounges in Vegas was a site to behold. Those fuckers are crazy as shit.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    This is a crucial decision NBIT. We all agree we need a guard and a FS. We can get a solid guard in rounds 2 or 3 (if we get a second rounder for Olsen) - but I don't want to see us draft a safety. If we draft a guy then he should be our guy for the foreseeable future. Take the best safety available in the first round next year, and then plug up that O-line with the best available talent thereafter. Hopefully we can pick up a tall receiver somewhere, the lack of depth and height on the roster at WR is worrying.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Easier said than done Irish. Lovie and I are just trying to make it through another year.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Shit. Without McKie running up middle I can probably cut back on my blood pressure medicine. Does it make the Bears a better team? Yeah Jeff, I think it does. Does it make the Bears a better team to watch? Absolutely!

  • In reply to mikev:

    We may not be a better team to watch but you better watch us after all the Jack we just spent.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    If I had more confidence in the drafting team, I would say drop Olsen for a mid to high 2nd rounder and use it on the best defensive back available, hopefully a true free safety or a standout corner. Trade Manning for the 3rd rounder and use both 3rd round picks to pick up a pair of prize bulls at guard and/or center. Avoid OTs because we're much weaker in the middle than on the edges.

    Angelo has a good record of picking WRs in rounds 4 and 5, I think he can do it again this year. He does not have a good record of picking in the 1st or 2nd round (other than Forte recently); so I'm more comfortable sticking with Olsen and letting Martz use him on recieving plays. But if we don't make that trade, I am scared of Angelo with two 3rd round picks because he could try to trade up and grab a DB anyway (thereby losing out on any starting help at Guard) or else use waste 3rd rounders on WRs or LBs (which are nice, but not where we need to invest our top picks now). Manning is probably better than whatever DB we would get in round 4; no need to chase him out the door either.

    Unless... he wants a long term deal.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    LaCanfora reckons we poked the pooch in free agency. The Chiefs sign TJ and they're geniuses ....

    http://www.nfl.com/freeagency/story?id=09000d5d817046a4&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    irish..he's an ompa-lompah...still think the three letter network made a bad move by keeping him and putting him on T.V. ...he has a face for radio.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    :o)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    the same Chiefs that in the last 3 years have let Jared Allen and Tony Gonzalez get away for a combined 2nd round pick which they essentially traded to get one of the bottom 6 QBs in the league in Cassell. All the while continuing to be one of the 5 worst teams in the nfl year in and year out. Yah they are like super geniuses!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Jeff aka Blogfather..I agree 100%..maybe this fear year will make all rethink..Who are you? maybe change is in the wind? now back to my rant for the last..Jebus Christo..I don't know!#@$#

    1.GET ME TWO BEASTS!!!!! AT GUARD!!! trade "The one we do not name" (GO) and "no longer in the LDL BFF Club" (DM)and get a real FS.
    2. As a lovely parting gift Demaryius Thomas....for you MB..and I won't rant like a "Crazy B!#$#!ch" any longer...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Affirmative Lobo. 1 & 2 give us a shot his year, anything else is a dry hump.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Thank you for that link, Irish.

    I needed something like that piece of literary tripe to fire me up.

    Here is my response to Mr. LaCanfora...

    A) You, nor anybody else, CANNOT declare "Winners" or "Losers" in free agency 10 minutes or even 10 DAYS after the signings, Jason, you doofus, any more than you can grade draft results before any of the picks have played an NFL down. You really have no clue as to how things are going to shake out and, guess what, how do you know the Bears are DONE making moves? Last time I checked it WAS still only mid-March and there are still free agents to be had. Yes, it LOOKS like the Bears may have shot their wad, financially, but the way Jerry Angelo talked before the signing period began the Bears were supposed to be "...pretty well set". Whoopsey. Guess not.

    B) This looks and smells to me like a GIANT basket of SOUR GRAPES because good ol' "NFL Insider" Jason LaCanfora, completely WHIFFED on the free agency story like all the rest of the
    so-called "Insiders", NONE of whom had a CLUE that the Chicago Bears, of ALL teams, were going to swoop in like a hungry grizzly and raid the Free Agent "campsite" of most of the best vittles on day one. Hell, we're informed Bear fans and WE were shocked!
    Ergo, the 'experts" give us "I didn't predict this so it MUST be BAD".

    C) I am more than a little tired of the "they didn't address their recivers and have no playmakers there" crticism.

    Drivel.

    Did you not watch Devon Aromashodu beat All-Pro CB, Antonio Winfield, like a drum on a Monday night last season in a game that meant a hell of a lot to the Vikings? Plus you seem to just ASSUME that youngsters, like Johnny Knox, will not improve with a year of experience under their belt?

    Rookie, Knox, recorded 45 catches for 5 TD in 15 games, plus a kick-off return TD.

    Aromashodu, while not a rookie, snagged 24 for 4 TDs in only SIX games when FINALLY given an opportunity to show his stuff.

    By comparison, you would have wriiten off Jerry Rice after HIS rookie season which consisted of 49 receptions and THREE TDs in SIXTEEN games. A season that, as I recall, had him riding the pine for a bit because he had a bad case of "the drops" and "experts" speculating that maybe he was not worth a first round draft selection. Hmm, wonder whatever became of Jerry Rice?

    Am I saying we have the next Jerry Rice in the Bears' receiving corps? Of course not because I don't know. But neither do you.

    So, Jason, feel free to put your purple cape, your pointy hat with the stars and moons on it and your crystal ball back in your closet you pathetic, Nostradamus wanna-be.

    Other than that, I have no opinion on this matter.

    In other news...

    I aboslutely LOVED yesterday's Big East 1 and 3 Flameout. Wait a minute, I think the Ohio Bobcats just scored AGAIN on Georgetown.
    LOL! It SHOULD have been WORSE. The "Beasts of the East" SHOULD have gone 0-4 because 'Nova had to bring their own, personal set of zebras just to squeak by vaunted Robert Morris. Did you see the fouls discrepancy down the stretch of that game? How lame was that? Talk about your 'home cookin'!

    Shame on the NCAA for giving so many teams psuedo home games in the Tournament. Screw the "pod" concept.

    And while I'm at it, screw the concept of expanding the tournament to 96 teams!!! Whoever floated THAT concept needs to pee in a cup for a tox screening.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Albert, that's the biggest problem with the 24/7 news cycle. Everything is beaten to death and everyone is trying to put the next big story out there. Of course, 90% of it is just their opinion and they act like it's a statement of fact.

    I also get a kick out of all the "journalists" that beat us to death about over paying in FA. Of course we did. All the early signings get over paid. It's a year with no salcap. Who gives a flying fuck how much they make? It's not my money and it doesn't handicap the team in any way.

    We got beat up for over paying for Tate. By the end everyone said he was a bargain. It just depends on how they perform. If they stink on ice, we got screwed. If they play well, Woo-Fucking-Hoo!

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    agreed Al, leave the tourney alone. We won't get these awesome upsets early if the good teams get byes and even weaker opponents. Just my opinion. But I definitely feel like there are several teams every year that have a legitimate beef about not getting in.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Go ahead and tell me if I am wrong, but I swear Angelo said that The Bears are in it to Win It!! So if that is the case then, why not add a big piece to the puzzle in an experienced F-Safety from F-Agency!! Just Sayin!!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Fan, I appreciate your concern, I really do. I'm confident we have the best coaching staff in place in our Organization and I strongly believe we have the players to take advantage of thier valuable Coaching experience. This team knows how to win, now we just have to take the field and proove it.

    Sincerely, JA.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Even you must know that we don't have the "best coaching staff in place". It's not even a respectable enough lie to actually be insulting.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Every player we(I mean the Bears) have drafted or traded for are my(I mean Lovie's stalwarts) and everyone of them with the exception of Cedric deserved a chanced to be a part of this team. Cedric made JA and I(I mean LS) look too bad which will not be tolerated. Once in a while when some good talent comes along we have(I mean, they) have to make room for new players because we(I mean they) aren't in the business of accumulating talent on the bench. Boy were we(I mean they) right.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac, I'm more confused after reading that post.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Just call me Lovie

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    From now on I'm going to be Lovie Smith. Feel free to ask me any question you may have concerning our wonderful team and I will do my best to answer them to the best of my ability. Please, no personal insults, my mailbox is full of them.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Now THAT I understand.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    They both sucked...its fine with me. Vasher's pro bowl year was a joke imo. He lucked into a lot of interceptions.

    Bears should run less Fullback type offenses imo. Instead of a Fullback, Might as well just put another guy on the line.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Speaking of which, with the way rosters are these days, when teams run the wildcat formation, why not put in two tackles on one side? Get three really really good tackles that can move and run the ball down their throats. That would beat the leaving shit out of teams like the Vikings with two huge fat dudes on the line. They would probably get injured like crazy. It'd be sweet action. I'm sick of these slow bastards on the line. "Sweep right" can't be done anymore because everyone is over 300 pounds. Even the athletic folks have trouble after turning about 27 because their knees/ankles are all screwed.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ok gents, JA and I will log on from time to time and we will try to answer your questions in a timely manner. Of course we won't be able to answer all your questions but we will try to select a few of them occasionally ranging from a variety of issues and topics with fairness and impartiality.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Dear Trac/LS,

    Not trying to be negative but our D has bit big baby chunks for the last 3 years (even in the SB it was bad), my question is "Why should be trust you this year after 3+ years of abysmal results?" No offense, of course.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Dear Trac/JA,

    Not trying to be negative but your draft picks have been even worse than Lovie's coaching, my question is, "Why should we trust you to make any decent picks this year since your track record has been abysmal?" No offense, of course.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Funny you should mention that CB. I just got off the phone with Lovie a few minutes ago and he convinced me to let him make all of our draft picks this year. He reminded me of something I did at one of our Christmas parties last year and he made me an offer I couldn't refuse.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ntDISoW95o

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Good stuff MB...Check this one out! Hahaha

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwxhEu-nkys&feature=PlayList&p=3A91A6351E561661&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=18

  • In reply to Joseph:

    Heeey Joe (see how I did that?),

    I think someone posted that a while back. Pretty good... not nearly as funny as two poorly drawn penguins (have you ever tried to spell that word?) making fun of the Browns, but yeah... funny.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ...but it's white and I can't find it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Are you gonna wrap that around Jake Delhomme? Hahaha

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    MILK-A-WHAAAA?!?!?!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Since becoming head coach of this fine football team it has been my life's goal to, A) Beat Green Bay, and B) Win a Superbowl. We have accomplished the Green Bay goal for the most part with the exception of last years performances and I still believe with all my heart that a Superbowl Victory is within our grasp. If you give me one more chance, I promise that I'll tell JA to let me make our drafts picks this year.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Milk-a-WHAA!?!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    "R.I.P., Nathan Vasher" ???

    EASY there,KentuckyBearsFan.

    The guy was CUT, not executed.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    This is how you reward JA and I for our generous free agent moves. Ungrateful swine.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I dont think I have ever seen a management team like the Bears try to force so many players into positions they werent drafted for excelling at in the first place! The Bears try to play guys at all kinds of different psitions, cause they like them? But They constantly play guys out of position. I mean, as an example, instead of drafting a saftey & turning him into a C.B, why not just draft a C.B to begin with?? The Bears just seem to do alot of this, just sayin. I am Still waiting for a Free Safety!! GO BEARS!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hey McKie has an interview with the Rams, maybe he will find a new home, it sure wasnt here in Chi, no offense!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    No offense was why he is gone. I said do you see how I did that?

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Vasher sets the record for longest play at 108, Hester equals it, Cromartie breaks it.

    Why did we sign another midget CB who won't see the field ? Excellent question Coach. But you've got to be addicted to painkillers and cocaine to answer that. More to the point, why did we sign a DB who was regarded by his own fans as the worst cornerback in the NFL ? Can't people who play ST play football as well ? Why do people have to suck at football before they get signed as Special Teamers ?

    I think Angelo signs midgets to make himself feel superior when he talks to them briefly before consigning them to the practice squad.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, its all about shuffling the dough my man. When will you people learn. Jeez.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Totally agree with every word #1BearFan is saying. We need a safety, NOW through free agency not through the draft.
    We also need to use the few picks we do have to find a left guard.

    WR coach! Just goes to illustrate the quality of offensive coordinator we had the last few years.

  • In reply to UKBearsFan:

    I for one am Thrilled "Terrible Turner" is History!! That move in itself, along with Hiestand as the O-Line coach being dismissed, will make a big difference this year. The more I hear Martz talk the more amazed I am at how Stupid & Generic Turner really was,LOL. I think Martz and Tice will make a big difference on offense for us. No longer will our Bears be predictable all the time. We will actually try to Confuse & make it difficult for opposing defenses now. Rather than let them just tee off on us and know every play thats coming. P.S, I Still want a F-Safety, I am waiting!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    What every happened to Rex Grossman.
    If anybody hasnt seen this 3rd and 57 from his days at Florida please watch it, its

  • In reply to UKBearsFan:

    We got to the Superbowl because Reggie Bush tugged on Urlachers cape by wagging his finger at him. Anymore questions.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I remember that well Trac. Bush waved his little finger, then did a flip in the endzone. The funny thing is that after that the Bears defense smothered them the rest of the way, it was a great game to be a Bear fan. We have Dominated the Saints of late and I hope it continues!

  • In reply to UKBearsFan:

    Ok boys and Girls, I have a question for any wise fans out there. If Rolle was so good then how come Green Bay was able to smoke the Cards for some serious yards in the air? Then the very next week the Saints put up 45 pts against the Defense with the Top FS free agent on the roster(Rolle)? The tone of the Defense begins with the play of our D-line and until we can evaluate their effectiveness crying about a free safety is like pissing in the wind.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Maybe you are onto something there,Trac. I know the Bears made a run for Rolle, but maybe it is for the Best we didnt get him. Personally, I like Otogwe a free-safety with the Rams. He really fits in with our defense and creates alot of turnovers. But for some reason, the Bears have not shown any interest in him. My only other hope is that the Bears are waiting on Sharper. He did say he had two interviews set before he had his knee scoped(which is minor), and I know their was mutual attraction there. He would fit in well, as he knows the defense. Plus he would be familiar and anxious to play his old teams in G-Bay & the Vikes,LOL. I feel that Sharper would make the biggest impact right now, Just Sayin!! What do you Guys think??

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    #16, the smart money's on Sharper.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Read my words carefully Z. I said the best coaching staff in place in "our organization". Really depends on what "is" is.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ahh the old Clinton defense. Well JA regardless of the fancy lawyer talk and the slight of hand, once the stain is found on the blue dress and the cigar is properly lubricated then you get removed from office and divorced. Oh...uh...well...nevermind.

    But if you guys never fill our glaring, obvious holes and miss the playoffs for 3 straight years and have 2 losing seasons and try that fancy double talk and slight of hand/blame a new Co-ordinator thing every year then you will certainly be fired. Oh...uh...well...nevermind. Carry on then. And I will need a double of that kool-aid and keep em coming barkeep, er...GM.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Turner was the Monica, DePaul was the stain , I was Hillary and Lovie was Bubba. As much as it pained me, I had to stand by my man.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    If they don't sign Atogwe at one minute past midnight June 1st then a pox on all those concerned ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, do you think he'll make it till then without a new contract?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Have we signed a F-Safety Yet?? Any interviews lined up at least? Can Angelo it least try to make us think he is serious about Fixing our Biggest NEED at "Free Safety"!! Rather than ignoring it totally so far! Hey Angelo, how about a interview with Bobby Williams, who cant seem to come to an agreement in Cin. Because we also need help on the O-Line. Hello, Mr Angelo, is anybody In There? It is starting to look like the Bears are either waiting on Sharper(there was mutual interest there). Or the Bears plan to draft one, which would not sit well with this fan. Think about it, their looking to fix our top priority in the draft, yet we dont have a pick until the 3rd round??? Something is terribly wrong with that thinking, which is probably why we havent been able to fix the safety position and have used 20+ players in the last 4-5 years!! They dont want to pay for one of the top needs in Lovies defense, a free safety! I even recently read where the Bears are looking at a possible un drafted player this year, who could be a surprise player? Could Be?? No more Could Be's Damn it! Lets get a Proven commodity this time at Free Safety!! Learn from your Damn Mistakes Already, Gheez!!! There are a couple great safeties still available in F-Agency that fit our defense(Atogwe,Sharp,Grant), we need to go through Free Agency for our Safety! Just Sayin, thats only this fans thoughts. Peace.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Hey #16, keep shakin the tree my friend, Ginni's still mulling over a few more Million and we need all the help we can get.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I do compliment the Bears so far, as I think we made good coaching changes, plus we added some impact f-agents, they spent over 100 mil. Angelo says we are in it to win it! So here is the confusing part to me. I think we are pretty close personnel wise. They have jumped out of the gate & gone this far. On defense we are only a good F-Safety away from having a pretty darn good defense again. So why just stop now?? We are not a poor franchise, we have the Money and an uncapped year to make it happen, No Excuses. Our other issues at guard,center & cornerback can be addressed in the draft. Our F-Safety needs to be Proven and come from F-Agency. I just think, in it to win it, means you will do everything possible to be the best, maybe I am wrong.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    What do you guys think about the overtime rule? The idea I like the best is the 5th quarter scenario. Just extend regulation to a 5th quarter and the team that has the ball continues to have possession instead of having to flip a coin. No sudden death. Extended play only. If the game ends in a tie during the regular season after the 5th quarter then the game ends in tie game. During the playoffs another quarter will be added until a winner is determined.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I hope they leave it the same. If you lose the coin flip, be ready to play some D.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Just wanna give out props to Z, Lobo, Doc, #16Fan, Irish and a few others for helping with the charade over the last couple of days. Surprisingly MB was conspicuously missing from the act along with a few nameless others. Thanks for all being such good sports.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ro-Sham-Bo. Each team nominates one guy to kick another guy in the balls. Coin flip to see who goes first. Say the superbowl is tied - Urlacher, walks up to like Jeff Saturday, kicks him square in the nuts, and then it's Saturday's go. if he can't go on, the Bears win, and so on ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    That's football ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Screw you guys. I'm going home.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    ...the South Park way ... real football.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    The more I read/ see about Atogwe, he is a piece of the puzzle we can't afford to screw up. We have a serious defense if we get this guy ....

    Strengths:

    Daily team observers can't even fathom how good Atogwe's numbers might be in a defense unlike the Rams' that isn't so often in such predictable passing situations. Pure and simple, he is a quality playmaker with great range and sure tackling ability. He possesses the speed to say with wideouts, in addition to having a real nose for the ball in run support. Tutored by Chavous, Atogwe also has become a very serious student of the game, as well as a hard worker who has made his hands better by working overtime catching balls out of the JUGS machine on a regular basis. Atogwe also takes good care of his body and has proven to be quite durable, starting every game the past three seasons.

    Weaknesses:

    Atogwe still will have lapses in coverage, but not nearly as many as he had his first two seasons. He sometimes has a tendency to tackle too high and occasionally can get dragged for extra yardage.

    Risk Factor:

    Low. The numbers don't lie. Whether he remains with the Rams or not, Atogwe looks to be on a fast track toward perennial Pro Bowl consideration the rest of his career, provided he can stay healthy.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Rumors are starting to circulate the Queens may be interested in Vasher as CB is one of their needs. I can't tell you how much I hope they sign him. Its so funny to hear other teams fans talk about signing players like him. It makes me wonder if we are doing the same thing. Say what you will about our coaching staff but I'm willing to bet that we will do our homework with future signings.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Dear Doc. Yes I mean dear because I truly am sorry. Every parents dream is to see their child become someone great in life, someone that really makes a difference in the world. Devin achieved that status returning kicks but he was blinded by the light. Yes, Devin wanted the money and fame more than the gift he was given and he mistakenly thought he was destined for greater things. Sometimes a loving father has to give his child what he wants in order for his child to learn his lesson. Yes, I think Devin has learned his lesson and I am sorry for the pain he has caused you my son.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    You mean that the opposing QB will have time to take a piss while he easily completes another 3rd and long? Seriously we need a fucking FS. Is one that can wrap up and actually run in the correct direction too much to ask for?

  • In reply to UKBearsFan:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h_GBt5zGmI

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Yes, yes and yes. Shit how tall is he? He can play WR if he will go up and get it like that. Some of our WR's need to watch that video.

  • In reply to UKBearsFan:

    Dear Ask JA/LDL...In you infamous wisdom. "WHEN THE FU!@$#!@$K WILL I GET MY TWO GAURDS!!! the "We are all set" does not boed well for me?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    You think I want Martz to look good. No way baby, its time for the light to shine on me again.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I agree Lobo, we are certainly not set!! Give me a L-Guard and a Proven F-Safety, then we will talk,lol. Although I think Atogwe is the best fit, if the Bears feel they Have to save money,then they should at least sign Sharper at F-Safety!! I keep saying we are too close, not to make at least one more free agent move, preferably at F-Safety!! This is an uncapped year, by the way, which can play into the Bears hands, as long as they dont tighten up all the Sudden!! The Bears have to realize, if they fill the Big hole at F-Safety, that it will be a big piece of the pzzle!! Then with the few draft picks we have, we can get some help at Guard/Center,Corner & Safety. We have to get our F-Safety thru F-Agency though. We need experience, NOW!! Not a guy who will Hopefully develop into something decent 2-3 years down the line(Stressing Hopefully). Come on Angelo, Do the right thing, Damn it!! The Fans Deserve It!! GO BEARS!!

  • In reply to UKBearsFan:

    I think this illustrates it pretty well too.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teF7l2393zw&NR=1

  • In reply to UKBearsFan:

    I was no Rex fan, but that Center made two of the worst snaps I've ever seen !

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Manning is very valuable to our team. Don't forget he's our best athlete.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    I blame Lovie. The guy took Manning under his wing and totally screwed him up - kind of reminds you of Wrong Turner screwing up Devin Hester.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Tommie Harris is still here. The purging won't be complete this season.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Manning is a joke. Knox overtook him his first season on returns, and while you can fault the Lovie BFF Club for moving him around, he did pretty much suck everywhere except for returns, which as previously mentioned is pretty much redundant. Hell, I'm starting to think that Urlacher could return kicks with the unit Toub has out there.

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    Leave my boy alone ninja.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Sounds like the perfect man to be our Strong Safety Crown ! Woohoo !

  • I know you want to ask some questions Doc so I guess we need to find a JA out there somewhere.

  • Irish Sweetness or MB30SD, but thats just me. By the way, I thought I had moved up to #12 according to Da Coach, LOL.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    This last response I just wrote, was in response to Doc Nitty.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I recently read that the Bears are looking at a sleeper pick possibility in the draft for safety, a likely undrafted player?? WHY?? No wonder we have had so much trouble filling the free safety spot, cause they are just Stupid when it comes to safeties(among other things). Why not actually go after a proven Safety this time, for a change. Hello Atogwe is right there for the taking, or Sharper if they want to save a little bit. We NEED a proven Fricking free safety this time, not a wait and see if we get a lucky Damn jack in the box!! I am trying to keep faith as things have been quiet around the Otagwe & Sharper camps?? We are too Damn close not to make one more key free agent move at F-Safety, front load the damn contract so most of it gets absorbed in this uncapped year. With no 1st or 2nd rd pick, we need to fill the safety spot through free agency. We will need what lower rd few draft picks we have to get a guard,tackle/center & cornerback. My over confidence and positive outlook tells me they are waiting on Sharper, but I have been let down sooo many times!! Think about it? how many chances have the Bears had at getting a F-Safety over the last few years? they Cant draft one obviously, so sign a Damn proven free agent then, it is not Rocket Science here,Gheez!! The other thing that pisses me off about this is with so few picks & not till late, why are you shooting in the Dark for players??? They need to make those picks count!! I am just not a fan of Angelo!!! But Hey, Just Sayin. GO BEARS!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Alright, I had a percocet and a few Beers, I feel a bit better now, LOL!! But I still want a Damn Free Safety!!!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Atogwe - June 1st - we'll know ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Atogwe becomes a UFA on June 1st unless the Rams sign him to a long term deal.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    This made me pee my pants, just a little bit.

    Ron Turner, new WR coach of the Indianapolis Colts

    http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=article7&news_id=d4ce9fb3-393b-4b99-aead-af77c82283cb

    I thought he'd be a shoe in as some sort of special assistant for his brother Norval. Instead he takes a step back with a different team. You know you are a giant piece of monkey shit when your own brother won't hire you!

    Congrats Indy, your team just got a little bit shittier

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Nice find coach!

    Fucking Turner... I'm shocked as well coach, I could have sworn that turner had his shithole of a brother guest-OC that game against the jets last year.

    Jebus, nice pick up Indy. I am pretty surprised they gave him such an important position. Just keep him away from the clipboard Tom.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I wonder what kinda gig I'll get.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    LDL..this maybe in your future

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRmR-Ai_ND4&feature=related

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    or maybe this
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm7v_gxRJvQ&feature=related

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    no LDL.. here I finally found it..you can wear a Stanley Bear Outfit with the job too!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6VKNOtjI98&feature=related

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Ha Ha lobo. Do you think they'll give me the job?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey MB, the Colts receivers just got Dumber, LOL! Maybe the Receivers can teach Turner, ha,ha,ha!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    If we could only get Jerry Angelos e-mail address, or even better his cell phone #. Then us Bear fans could flood him with tons of demands for a Free Safety in free-agency, before they are all Gone. I know it sounds Crazy, But it just might Work! LOL. GO BEARS!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    More, more, more. They always want more.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    No Jerry, just a super bowl. One. Manage that ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    ROFL.........

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Ha,ha Coach, No Shiht! He cant even get interest from his own Brother, what does that say about him,LOL? Us Bear fans already painfully know what Turner brings to the game, Nothing!! Hell, Indy should have topped it off by signing Grossman too, before the Skins got him, LOL.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Guys, have you ever taken the time to consider that maybe our genius football players are to blame. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

  • Its Lovie's Birthday?

  • + many, so damn many.

  • A man cannot be all things to all people. First mistake. Either you give the man a raise to keep excelling at the position he's best suited for or you trade him if you cannot afford his services. I agree, we screwed the pooch on that one.

  • I apologize, I should have said that one too.

  • Thanks Guy's, your cracking me up....fun reading in the lull of the season!

  • Yeah Trac, great idea.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Therapeutic

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Dove name would suggest he's supposed to be our physician. I'm just helping to carry us over the line.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Doc's name

  • I agree 100% Doc.

  • Either way, whatever gets implemented, it will become a part of the games strategery.

  • Serious comment Doc re: Deion and Woodson. Hester should have never been made the #1. He should have been slot receiver along with our primary KR guy. I think allot of fans including myself felt uncomfortable with Hester being our #1. Its seems we were right.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Exactly. I feel almost everyone wanted the ball in his hands more if it didn't destroy what was most likely the GOAT return man.

    Get him some limited time at WR and make him earn more time based on performance while weighing any negative effects to the return game. If it isn't working, you can back off and not lose probably the GOAT returner. So f'ing stupid. And so f'ing obvious.

    They are playing checkers and still getting very confused. Maybe they should start with Go Fish or something before screwing with my favorite sports team.

  • Smart money is on Sharper to re-sign with Saints

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/21/sharper-has-another-week-or-two-to-wait/

  • Hey guys. Trac, well executed... just waiting for some of the real sheite to start flying come the draft.

    Hey BF, if I throw you a bone you might not have to post about wanting a FS again (wait, do you want a FS? I couldn't really tell). Anyway, here you go: http://blogs.nfl.com/2010/03/21/bears-not-done-yet-in-free-agency/. Looks like we'll get something done before camp. Might not be Sharper - who, from what I've read, isn't a great fit for our cover2 based D, but as long as we get something other than a greenie, I

  • Well said, Doc. Heart attack/stroke waiting to happen kids. And remember children, alcohol is medically a poison. No more than seven units a week. Jebus, I used to call seven units an Aperritif ...

  • Thanks for the GOOD advice Doc,Irish. Unfortunately I went in for a simple Hernia operation a few years ago, and the Doctor screwed me up. She damaged & buried my inguinal nerve in the muscle tissue and I cant be fixed now. I cant work or do much of anything. I am in constant Chronic Pain 24/7. Being in my abdomen, Any Movement aggravates the nerve even more. My best day, even with meds is a 7 on a pain scale of 1-10. It has turned my families life upside down, the depression is difficult for me to overcome and I am on alot of meds. Unfortunately I do drink some beers with meds to help with the pain, I know it is wrong and I am trying to be careful. Somedays you just dont care, but My Son keeps me going. Anyway, enough with the sob story of my life, sorry to ramble on. Unfortunately, thats how the cookie crumbles I guess. Take Care & Peace!!

  • Albert in Tuscon, the Professor of DBB.

    Dropping the analysts on their head for Jerry Rice's rookie season (in which he sucked). Shit man, all those analysts are in the grave or nearly there (I'm talking to you Bernie Lincicome).

    That's some fucking old school shit right there....

  • Trade Doc Nitwit for a bag of balls...

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