Admit Mistake, Bring Back TJ

The New York Jets are cutting Thomas Jones - the finest Bears offensive player since Neal Anderson - and the move is not sitting well in their locker room.  Jones is coming off the best year of his terrific career and will certainly earn one more lucrative contract in the 2-3 year range.  (He's 32 and organizations take that over 30 running back thing very seriously.)

The Bears have missed him desperately.  Jones was the leadership on the offensive side of the ball, vocal in the huddle and passionate on every play.  He carried a team with a stable-at-best quarterback to an unlikely Super Bowl appearance.  It is no coincidence that Jones' arrival in New Jersey marked a much-needed turnaround in the organization's offensive philosophy and physicality.  Overnight they went from a struggling unit to the best running team in the league. 

Will the Bears want him back?  If they are as committed to the run as they claim to be the answer is a shouted-from-the-rooftops "Yes!"  TJ, in tandem with Matt Forte the way he was with Shonn Greene, would give the Bears a toughness and versatility they sorely lacked in 2009.  It would also allow Mike Martz to line Forte up out wide, creating yet another mismatch with his excellent pass-catching skills, and still force defenses to respect the run.

But more than that, Jones would provide another voice in the huddle.  A leader's voice.  Someone to give Jay Cutler the business should he throw a couple untimely interceptions.  If there is an intangible knock on #6 that I agree with it's that his laid-back demeanor can often give the fans an impression of lethargy from the entire unit.  With TJ back in the huddle, that becomes an impossibility.  Jones won't let Cutler shrug his shoulders and lower his head.  He won't let players leave anything on the field.

Dueling personalities and the Chicago Bears have worked in the past, most notably on the sideline of a certain mid-80s group.  Jerry and Lovie might want to give it another shot.

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  • First! and i agree 100%

  • CAN SOMEONE ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT DA BLOG T-SHIRTS!!?!?!?!?!? ARE THEY PRE-SHRUNKEN OR NOT?!?!??!?!?!?!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    LMFAO !!!

  • I would say I agree but only to a point. It would depend on cost for me, If I have enough $ left after signing Rolle and Kampman, then I would talk to Jones and Owens about the money I have left.

  • I don't like TJ as much as many on here but I wouldn't mind seeing him come back. I think he's selfish and a bit of a shit disturber but a little sandpaper in the mix is not always a bad thing. The Jets had the best run game because they have a great OL. Also, Green and Washington are better backups than anyone on the Bears last year. A healthy Forte is a good (not great) RB but he was dinged up and awful last year.

    I think we sometimes forget about Jones' running style can be closer to "Dancing with the Stars" than a workhorse back. If our OL is at least avg we can run the ball with him and Forte. If is sucks like last year, Jones won't be a huge improvement.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Agree 100%. Get out of my head, CB.

    /Long time lurker. First time commenter.

  • In reply to mommasboy:

    Welcome aboard. It's a friendly bunch. Don't be afraid to jump in. Sorry about the telepathy!

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to mommasboy:

    Jones back would be good, so he can show Forte how to run with some balls! but this wont ever happen. We have the most basic fucking tool in the game, and his name is Jerry Angelo. How about that Forte ran like a fucking bitch last year, he had no will to overcome tackles.BUST! and i bought his jersey, should of got cutlers

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Didn't Forte have a sprained MCL ? TJ is allegedly leaving NY on salary differences, so I don't see how we wedge up on the running back position. Not to detract from a great Bear, but keep in mind that TJ was running behind probably the best line in football and was backed up by one of the best defenses. Leon Washington was the man on that team before he went down (not Shonn Greene) and would have a lot more upside than TJ - he's a FA I think.

  • In reply to mommasboy:

    Its a no brainer to bring back Jones. Don't think Lovie has it in him though. Wolfe, AP should be gone this year so we should definitely have the room. Lovie will need to send flowers if he wants him back which would cause me to believe even speculating on this is as a waste of space as Jeff once mentioned. Jones will have more than a few offers.

  • In reply to mommasboy:

    Would strengthening the running game with limited resources for a team moving strongly towards a pass first system be a round peg in a square hole?

    "We're still going through some things with Coach Martz, given our offense, and he's still educating us on things he likes," Angelo said. "So that's part of the process because what we want to do when we make a decision to go after a player is make sure it's a square peg in a square hole." (Angelo on Martz, Feb 26th)

  • First off, I am NOT Jeff. Sure we agree a lot of the time, but we disagree often as well. For instance, last spring he wanted T.O. to become a Bear and I...well, let's just say I didn't. Just because Jeff and I agree that people who think Olsen should be traded are "fans" with room temperature football IQ's doesn't make us the same person.

    I also completely agree with Jeff that Thomas Jones WAS indeed the best offensive player since Neal Anderson and SHOULD be brought back. Questions have and will continue to be raised concerning his viability in the Mike Martz system. I don't pretend to know as much about offensive scheming as Martz, but here's my two cents:

    Since 2007 I have thought that the Fullback position is dead (which is sad because I played Fullback in high school, back when Fullbacks carried the ball more than the HB). In 2008, as Jason McKie reached the height (or low) of ineffectivness carrying the football I wondered aloud whether it would be more prudent to play with TWO Running Backs. One is always blocking or pass-catching or running.

    Think about it, fellas. Jones and Forte lined up behind Cutler in a Veer Formation or in the Shotgun. Both excellent blockers. Both excellent ball-carriers. Both, but especially Forte are receiving threats. Why the hell not?

    "What have you got to lose except your god damn job?!?"

  • preciate that mr. nitty

  • taylor mays just ran an official 4.24 40 yd. dash. wanna see what his cover skills are, but if we can get this dude and unload somebody like greg olsen and another guy (pending covering skills), i wouldn't mind.

    but unless that's the only way that dude can come here, greg should stay. period.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    nvm....let's wait on the cover skills, but DAMN that dude is fuckin' huge. ran a 4.34 the next time, but only 1 pick all season? that's not going to get it done.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I have been absent from the comments. I am being accused of being Ghost? I think at one time or another people have thought I'm everybody. I just don't know why I would have a need for an alter ego.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Yes to Chester Taylor or Thomas Jones. I think both guys basically bring the same things. Both are strong physical backs that have some shiftiness and are strong catching out of the backfield.
    No to Westbrook or LT.
    NO NO NO to Owens. C'mon, he's got no popcorn left.
    Get me Peppers and Rolle, serenity now.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    I think Owens would be viable this year and this year only. He would get us through a year when we:
    a.) have no unquestioned no 1 receiver.
    b.) have no real big threat receiver.
    c.) don't have a receiver on the roster with more NFL starts than our QB.
    d.) don't have any picks on day one and only one pick on day two of the draft.
    e.) have a very shallow pool of FAs and we way more pressing needs to fill.
    f.) are looking at a very possible strike in 2011 and his contract would be up anyway.

    In a perfect world I would like to get a big physical wideout who has a good amount of NFL experience but will play here just a short time and not cost a whole lot. I think TO probably fits all of that since eating his humble pie in Buffalo. Most of all I would like at least one guy on the roster that can say "FU Jay, I ran the right route for the situation, and you blew the throw!" I am really sick of the inexperienced wideouts cop out for Cutler. I want to see results this year.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Agreed. This is our biggest immediate requirement on offense. We can play with the line we've got at a push. We beat the Minnesota Vikings with that line, Favre was on form - and that's pretty good. Forte, Bell & Jones aren't the worst trio in the NFL ... but in terms of a go-to jump-up-and-get-it NFL receiver we've only got Shabba on the outside. Terrell Owens is a serious upgrade on Glazyarse and Rashied fkn Davis. Is he done ? Probably, but he's big and he knows the game - how many other options do we have ? Can't draft 'em and can't get Marshall, if T.O. comes cut-price why would you say no ?

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    I think everybody's making the assumption that Martz is going to try and do a greatest show on turf thing here. I'd be surprised.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    What do you mean, like trying to put points on the board?

    You don't hire guys with a proven track record and ask them to change the way they do things. You don't ask Cutler to hand the ball off 30-40 times a game, and you don't ask Martz to scale back the playbook and balance an attack for the sake of balance.

    What exactly are you expecting jefe?

  • In reply to Shady:

    I agree you hire someone for what they do or have done successfully, not for the reason of changing them. Lovie Knows what Martz is going to do, he knows him all to well. Lovie recently said his receivers are going to be very excited with Martzs offense. He said what receiver wouldnt want to play in a pass happy offense? After years of Turner I am excited for some change and creativity!

  • In reply to Shady:

    I floated TJ's name out when I heard he was cut yesterday and I was curious to read the reaction...I think the bigger point is that in today's NFL it just makes all the sense in the world to have a potent 1-2 RB combo...

    I realize we have more pressing concerns, but if the bears can add a Thomas Jones at a decent price, you have to take a look...all that guy does is produce, yet seems to get no respect what so ever...I dont get it...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    TJ rocks, end of story.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    How Fast do you guys think Peppers will be signed, I say within 24 hours of hitting free agency. I read where they think he will pull in 18 mil a year, with 40+ mil in guaranteed money, OUCH!! I heard Kampman will look for 11-12 mil a year. We could actually get Kampman and either Rolle,Rhodes or Sharper(around 7 mil a year) for the price of Peppers alone,Hmmm. I dont know how reliable the source, but I heard the Bears budgeted 25 mil for free agency. If we went the Kampman route we could at least fill 3 big holes with quality players at that budgeted amount, Kampman 12 mil a year, Rolle,Rhodes or Sharper say 8 mil a year. That leaves roughly 5 mil left which should afford a Chester Taylor at R.B. These 3 moves would greatly improve us. Maybe we even get some O-Line help for a little more. It is hard not to want Peppers though,he is a freak. I dont think I will be upset either way. The big question is do you spend it all pretty much on one older player,who is 30 now(he is a freak & a pro-bowler though)?? Or do you fix 3 troubled spots on the team with quality players??

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    3 > 1
    The math really is that simple. My 3rd upgrade wouldn't necessarily be a RB as an upgrade at LG would mean much more to the run game than another backup RB. Regardless of the team, I would be willing to bet if you said you can have either, Juliues Peppers or Aaron Kampman, Atrel Rolle, and Bobbie Williams for the same price (those are my three hopefuls in FA). That isn't even close.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I agree with L.G as well. I was thinking we will address that in the draft, even possibly trading for a 2nd rd pick. But I agree we do need to address that position as well,good call. We will have to see who is available.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    If that 25 Million is anywhere close then we're obviously not in the DE market. Welcome back mark Anderson/Wale. Yes to Sharper - haven't got a clue about Rolle, but we could grab a guard and a receiver also maybe ...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Time marches on DM, TJ had a great line etc. last year ... Leon Washington broke his leg ... he won't be a decent price - it's money he's after. Running back is way down the list, or at least not as pressing as FS/OL/WR ... plus he's probably got way too much pride to come back and suck it up. Pride and ego.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Also, regarding TO, I will admit, its intruiging, but the fact remains, he drops way to many passes these days...and I see that causing problems with Cutler...lord knows everyone already over-examines every shrug and facial expression, its only a matter of time before the media would create some rift between TO and Cutler, and then the whole season goes down the drain...not worth it for a 35 year old receiver or whatever he is....

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I always liked Thomas Jones and was upset when we traded him. But I just dont see a good fit now. Just because it worked in the past, doesnt mean it will work now,just sayin. I think his personality is what turns teams off. Have you ever noticed he is always pissed off, I dont think I have ever seen him smile. Plus he doesnt play well with fellow R.B's he wants the ball and doesnt want to share. Part of the reason he is no longer here. I am not saying thats a bad thing. You want your players to want the ball every time. he has alot of passion & drive,that is obvious. Even at his age he is still tearing it up, yes he did have one of the best o-lines though. With how his falling out in Chi happened I just dont see the Bears & Jones re-uniting. I do think Chester Taylor would do well in this system. Remember although he is 30, the guy has low mileage from being a back-up. Taylors agent said he was looking for a similar deal at 4 year 12 mil, like he has now. To me that seems like a risk worth taking, unless another team bids it up to a crazy level. One other back I like that no one talks about is Willie Parker. His change of pace brings explosiveness and the ability to break the big runs. He also catches well out of the backfield. Ahh only two more days till free agency!

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Ain't no way that's happening with this O-line. 2000 Rams had one of the best O-lines ever. Lets just call it the latest show on turf and leave it at that.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    How about the Classless Asses on Grass?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    I don't get the love for Kampman. His numbers have been steadily declining and he's coming off major knee reconstructive surgery. One hobbling guy on da D line is about all I can take. Get Peppers!

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    a huge part of his decline was the fact that even though they lacked 1/3 of the personnell to move to a 3-4, GB did it anyway and he was kind of lost in the shuffle as he is not going to cover anyone even as good as a LB. GB got lucky with their draft picks working out and actually managed a pretty decent 3-4 but AK is just better left with his hand in the dirt. Like he would be for us.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Peppers has 120 starts
    Kampman has 104 starts
    Peppers has the advantage in INTs and FFs but Kampman has more tackles by a ways.
    Kampman averages .51 sacks per start, so about 8 a season. Peppers averages .67 sacks per start, so about 10.5 a season.
    If the contract costs you 8 million more a year to get Peppers, you are paying nearly 4 million dollars a sack for those last two.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    strike my Cato June comment. not even on the team. After my poor display of blogging today i am going to just stop now.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    are you really Crown's son?

  • In reply to dutsami:

    The closest to a Bear that TJ will get this year will be the fucking zoo. Chestdump Smith and fidgety Angelo have never once admitted a mistake, and that will not start with TJ, who was probably the biggest mistake of their tenure together, and resigning him would be exactly that, an admission of a mistake.

    I agree with Dennis Green, Kampman is not even in the same planet as Jalapeno. Peppers is a difference maker, Kampman is a caucasion version of Adawale. 10-11 million per year for that would make no sense.

    Peppers is the player that will turn 7-9 to 10-6 or better.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Son of Crown....Good ideas...Im with you on that.

  • In reply to Csharp:

    Sorry but I think you are the son of crown, Whatever the Hell that means??

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Anyone that says Defense and ball control offense doesn't win championships any mork is just plain full of crap.

    http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/football/teams/greatest.html

    Does anybody really understand whats going on with our team? These bag of balls have actually convinced us to buy this charade that is now Your Chicago Bears.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Green Bay made the switch to a 3-4 defense moving closer to the "antiquated" idea that a dominant defense improves a teams chance to win a Championship.

    Chicago refuses to embrace this philosophy in spite of the declining production of our current scheme. 1, 2, or 3 more quality players will not get it done unless we change the scheme that we now currently have or at the very least incorporate some new wrinkles. Can anyone tell me what Rod Marrinelli brings to the table in this dept. and what if any changes can we expect to see next year?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hey Trac,I can bet you that if the current regime fails,that the next coaching staff,which I think will include Cowher, will transform us from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense,just a thought. As far as Marinelli,he does bring an intense fire to the D-Line,whether that transpires to anything this year remains to be seen. But he is known as a motivator!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Yeah I know fan. I guess I'm gonna have to search the web for some info on what he actually has done in the past.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I know I'm new here and don't consider myself super "intellegent" but this Jeff seems like the kind of Bears fan that just doesn't get it. Thank you all for rebutting his dipshit posts with facts & insight. Like I said, I'm new, so maybe I missed the time when jeff was on top of his game. I know we are all privvy to our own opinions but stfu with that mess Jeffy...("Go for gold!")

  • In reply to customJMO:

    Your picture is hilarious! I would rather see the Bear Humping a G-Bay or Viking player,lol. For my bad eyes it looks like a New Orleans player in the picture. Very Funny!!

  • In reply to customJMO:

    Custom, I don't agree on allot of things people post here but I do respect the fact that Jeff has been the glue that holds this all together even though its tacky from time to time(that pun was intended) and don't forget that he is our blogfather.

    Never take sides against the family again, ever.....or I might have to make you an offer you can't refuse.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Don't hate cause I called out your boys' retarded takes. (I don't think I'm the only one) Its all in good fun & we're all on the same team. I just want a place that I can listen to what other Bears fans think and jump in once and a while when someone is right on or way the fuk off.
    Somebody had to be the one to take jeff
    out fishing & it breaks my heart

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Even Brittney Payton had no comments on her blog. Little Walter ! I had to ...

    Was it the Minny game where we had like over 400 posts one day ?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Thought for the day gentlemen. Our Boy Roy not having a go at a Bear or at anyone else, he's talking to.... you. Bears fans. Love one another, and peace out ...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/sportsfansnetwork#p/u/0/_fa48F9hsoo

  • In reply to customJMO:

    We pull up a stool to hear the punters JMO - not the barkeep.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    As a fellow Irishman u should know best we call em how we see em. And I know what u were trying to do here but WTF does a punter have to do with anything.
    Bear Down Irish

  • In reply to customJMO:

    Ah, what part ? Originally from Dublin myself, but legged it over to Thailand five years ago. The sun comes out here. You can actually see it. It's yellow by the way.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Has anyone heard any word on us looking to acquire Cromartie now that the lions are out? I have heard nothing. I know the guy is out of SD for being an asshole but then again most of em are. He has a lot of talent...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I don't know if my opinions are good or not but I know there's a shitload of folks coming to the site these days. That's my only job.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Disappointing.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Bring on the dissent! You ain't made it until people start hating your opinions.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Don't sweat these guys, Jeff! I hope GregO makes it to the ProBowl this year! And I'm behind yesterdays comments 100%. There is no way Martz pulls out the same play book he used in St.Louis/Detroit/SanFran. So they didn't utilize a TE? They didn't have Olsen either.

  • In reply to Church:

    Oh, I'd say Martz has had quite a few guys in his time that couldn't block ... or break tackles ... AND wore pink shoes .... BADA-BOOM!BANG! Round two ?

  • In reply to Church:

    careful enderwigggin. lol

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    Well most of the people here are oldtimers who posted on the original site and are willing to put up with some of the bullshit that came with the move, ie the annoying f'n box that pops up from time to time and the censorship that we were told wouldn't happen unless we threatened the President.
    But people really came to this blog because of your shared passion for the Bears, your ability to put into words on a blog that relay emotions that we felt watching the games (the Forte run during the Philly game in 08 for example) was what got us all here in the first place. Just because the news is light or you have a near cult-like group of constant poster doesn't mean you should take for granted we will always be here to the point that you name-call and post half-cocked all the time. New people will stop coming and eventually even past posters and readers will go away if you keep up the arrogant flippant attitude in your posts.

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    A few Florio things:

    Bears tampered with Peppers' agent:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/02/more-fun-with-tampering-bears-met-with-peppers-agent/

    Greg Olsen wants a trade:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/olsen-unhappy-with-hiring-of-martz-wants-a-trade/

    Bears want Brandon Marshall:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/rumors-abound-that-bears-want-brandon-marshall/

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Well, Blogfather, THIS thread constitutes "preaching to the Choir" for me.

    Plus, while I thought that I was a pretty BIG Greg Olsen advocate myself, yesterday's "Unitelligent" admonishment to the Olsen bashers stunned even me. That sparked QUITE a grease fire.

    And no, sportsfans, I am NOT a Blogfather alter-ego, secret identity OR a second or third personality that emerges under stress.

    YO, DocNitty! NICE collection of Lovie quotes.
    You have inspired me!

    Mr. Smith's obviously no student of history or he'd have taken Lincoln's famous advice I have invoked many times about "Better to remain silent...".

    Talk about "Convicted out of your own mouth",
    he apparently doesn't have an attorney, either because if he did he'd have been advised to invoke his right to remain silent long ago.

    My own feelings on the matter are that it must be something from his childhood because Lovie seems to still enjoy the taste of his own feet. That HAS to explain why he puts his foot in his mouth so regularly.

    In closing, regarding Lovie and his mouth, I invoke a line from a movie I just watched but can't recall the title:

    "You know. I didn't think you could BE any more stupid.
    BUT, you surprised me."

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    And that 3-4 defense got torn a new one by Arizona ! On Marinelli, I'm a fan. The sounds the linemne made after he got to Halas were good. For the first time in their lives they were told 'Why' and not just the 'What'. What they were doing was explained to them, some of them for the firt time. Before Marinelli they were instructed, now they're being taught. Rod Marinelli is not a problem on the franchise. Teaching guys doesn't necessarily turn people into sack monsters, but they know more than they did. Look past Marinelli for scapegoats ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, that was a genuine question. Wasn't dumping on Marrinelli at all. I have no clue what he's bringing next year.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Irish I was also talking about this bend don't break philosophy not the 3-4 in particular. Not only has our defense bent but we've allowed almost every quarterback and rb we've played against break their personal best performances. I called up the NFL Network after Riviera was fired because I knew in my gut that was a mistake. Of course I got the standard company line about how babich was Lovie's kind of guy and the move was an improvement. Every now and then I have to fight the impulse to call them back and tell them they were full of crap. lol

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'd love to see us get with the 3-4, Trac, don't get me wrong (just having a little rip on the Pack!) if for no other reason that's what the top defenses are running ...

  • In reply to dutsami:

    DaCoach-

    Unfortunately its not just a debate of who is better than whom...I dont think there is an debtate that Peppers is better, but when you factor in what he would cost, would that prevent us from being able to sign a Safety for example or another player...I agree, if the Bears were one piece away from a title, go and get Peppers, but in this case, you have to factor the cost in..

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I agree we need to get more Bang for our buck, this offseason. I surely dont want to sell the Farm for Peppers only. I would rather get 2-3 very good players for the cost of 1 player in Peppers,just sayin.. I would like Kampman,plus Rolle or Rhodes,then maybe a R.B like Parker or Taylor. Maybe even O-Line if we can get a trade for a 2nd rd pick. There are options here if we care to pursue them!!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    True. But if Angelo gets outbid by Snyder (which is a racing certainty), he's going to blow the lot on Nicole Ritchie at linebacker or some bullshit signings.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Or better left in the land of blown out knees ....

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    CTA-

    I dont know if its necessarily love for Kampman as it is fear that Peppers is going to get a HUGE contract and as we all know that may not be the best place to spend the money, given his questionable consistency issues and propensity to not give 100% particularly after he gets this huge deal...

    I for one, dont want them to drop that many years/millions on him...(see Tommy Harris)

    I think Kampman would be a signifcantly better deal from an risk vs. return standpoint...just my opinion

  • In reply to Dmband:

    There's another elephant in the room .... how is Kampmann a beetr risk with only one knee ?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Irish, I'm LMAO reading your takes as you go on down the line.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    'check the blog' my ass, it takes all day ! Between all the links and Youtube stuff I get to the end of reading everything and responding and then you forget what you actually wanted to say. Jebus. Only eight months left ...

    I just got banned off WCG

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Greg Olsen is protected from on high, what's going on ...?

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    I hate to rain on everyone's parade but this is the reason TJ had the best year of his career. This is not what he'll have if he comes back to us.

    http://www.cnycentral.com/sports/story.aspx?id=392327

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'm with you. That line is ridiculous. They spent tons of money on the line, not the running back. TJ was a bargain.

    Incidentally, Mark Sanchez is basically Rex Grossman. Once he gets hurt (it will happen) his career is going to be over. It MIGHT not happen due to the absolutely ridiculous O-line he has.

    What a joke.

    Fuck TJ.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I would love to have Jones back. But we have greater needs to be addressed before we go in that direction. I feel our most important needs come first. Safety,Oline,Defensive End, Then a running back who can get into the endzone every time we made it to the goal line. I was so pissed last year seeing us make it to the goal line and then see Forte fail to make it in. Was it all his fault, no our oline sucked balls. But We still should of had several more touchdowns last year if we had a beast of a running back who can get two yards on every carry no matter who's blocking for him. That's the kind of running back we need. Is Jones the answer? Maybe, but i doubt they will get him back and admit the mistake of letting him go.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FQ, thank you. Nice to see someone else on the Mays bandwagon. Deeeeuuuuummmmmm.... 4.2! There is no way in jebus' knee that we'll get a shot at him if he grades out well in the other disciplines at the combine. I just checked and dude has a FORTY ONE INCH VERTICAL,a nd put up 225 for 24. He is a monster!

    I've watched him at SC for a couple years (no not an SC fan, at all), but you only need to know two things about him:

    * He's a beast, 6'3" 230... and puts up the stats above

    * He's a monster hitter and has a super strong nose for the ball

    Last year he hurt his knee badly in the second game of the year. I think it was a very similar situation to Forte

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/03/02/combine.dbs/index.html?eref=sihp

    I still think he's injured. Not the same dude I saw before last year. Maybe we do have a shot at him after all? Damn.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    On size alone you'd have to give Mays a shot. Berry may be better, but those receivers are getting bigger. Anyone see that dude that beat his bench press by one ? French sounding name. He had bigger tits than Pamela Anderson.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    While we

  • In reply to Shady:

    Were you been Shady? That bday night out had a bigger impact than we all thought huh?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Although I hadn't been posting, I was still reading most of Da Posts. Too frustrated with (mis) management to word anything coherently. I needed to calm myself down a bit before stepping back to to the keyboard.

  • In reply to Shady:

    We're just going around in circles anyway, Shady. The food source is gone, and the wolves are snapping at each other now ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Great comment. No doubt this is going to be a long offseason, especially if the Cubs/Sox struggle early.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Rumor that 'unintelligent' Bears tight end Greg Olsen may want to be traded now that Martz is in town.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/03/olsen-unhappy-with-hiring-of-martz-wants-a-trade/?related=1

    I kid, I kid. Personally, I think Olsen has underachieved, but maybe Martz can find a way to utilize him. Although, he may be one of our most tradable assets, and if you can get something good for him, it should of course be explored.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    1. Kampmann and other instead of Peppers
    2. TJ or Chester instead of LT or Westbrook
    3. Rolle and/or Sharper instead of whatever Mike Green-esque player we currently have slated to start
    4. Keep Olsen, Davis and Clark. Waive Davis if Manumansosdfoisnf available
    5. Pisa, Briggsy, Urlacher, Williams, Roach and Cato June at linebacker

    That and a little O'line love and we'll be just fine. I heard Martz invented the 9 step drop in the offseason and will also use Mannelly to long snap the ball back to him on 3rd and long situations...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    we still have Cato June right?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    also, my list is not in order of importance. i just wanted to make sure my list looked official. i didn't really have to use numbers. I just don't want HH as a starting linebacker on our team. My arms are bigger than his. my hair is not as luxurious though and i'm probably not as smart.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    We retired his name. Beautiful name.

  • T.O? Well the post game press conferences would be interesting?

    Questions to T.O. would go like this:

    Q: T.O., do you have any excuses, I mean any idea why Cutty didn't throw to you when you were wide open in the endzone?
    Answer: Yeah, he's got his head so far up Olsen's ass that he couldn't see me jumping up and down waving my arms?

    Q: T.O., do you have any excuses, I mean any idea why the offense is having such a hard time getting into the end zone this season?
    A: Yeah, Lovie's got his head so far up Greg Olsen's ass that he is having a hard time hearing me say, "throw it to me, I'm open.

    Q: T.O., do you have any excuses, I mean idea why so many of the passes thrown your way don't end up in completions?
    A: Yeah, I broke my hand trying to pull Cutty's head out of Olsen's ass.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    funny shit

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I want AK47

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Do you mean AK74?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    Aquiring Kmapman and Taylor would have twice the positive impact for the Bears. Not only would Chicago instantly improve at two key positions, but the signings would also deal a blow to both player's former teams (and Chicago's biggest rivals), Green Bay and Minnesota.

    ... Now if only we can find a way to finagle Calvin Johnson away from those hapless Lions...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Yes ! Always have that in the back of my mind. CJ up in Detroit gathering cobwebs ....

  • wow. Nice to have you back Doc.

  • Ahhh, very interesting,I predicted earlier that the Pats with multiple 2nd rd picks might be interested in Olsen. I would feel good with a 2nd rd pick, as Olsen just doesnt seem to fit in Martz's system anyway. We could address our O-Line with that 2nd rd pick for Olsen. Then we can target d.e.,f-safety & R.B in free agency. The Bears will be back!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    What would we get for their 2nd plus our 3rd ? Taylor Mays ?

  • I think Greg Olsen remains our best trade value on the roster right now. He is possibly a 2nd rd pick for a T.E that doesnt fit into our new offense anyways! Olsen just might be more valuable as trade bait,than a starter in this new offense. Just sayin..

  • Thanks Doc, I needed that. My mind has been swimming lately. On one hand I am hopeful but then reality sets in from time to time and I go wobbly. Needed that shot in the arm brother.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hey things are getting too Lovie Dovie here. Puhleease, Lets move on,YuuK.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    very funny fan.

  • I just stumbled across this pic & thought it was funny. Plus I cant stand Reggie Bush...ever since he waved in Urlacher's face and then we proceeded to beat that ass. Ahhh, memories of a hungry Bears team...

  • Doc, was giving your question some thought about why only 1 ring in the 80's. They lost thier edge because the fame overshadowed the game. They were great but alas they were only human. Hell Chicago still loves them and they know it. Ego's with that group got in the way and once sweetness retired they lost the magic. I don't think there a man that was on that team that wouldn't tell you that.

  • And why the censorship on Olsen ? Why have a blog on Olsen and then cut out our/my comments ? I took out all the swear words until it was just a plain, fully justified and backed-up hatchet piece on Olsen. You need to send out tweets and not have a blog in that case - that way you get to say what you want and there's no right to reply. My $0.02.

    Anyway, O***n demons exorcised. Now he shall be the tight end who remains nameless until he finds a team that cherishes lack of heart and toughness. I can see him on the Raiders. Michael Bush or Zach Miller in return please.

  • Hallelujah ?

  • Ah, glory days. For me it was the health of Jim McMahon, Doc. My memories of those years has more Doug Flutie, Steve Fuller, Mike Tomczak in them than Jimmy, sadly (although you've got to hand it to Flutie - I don't know how he could hold the ball). Although Jim provided by far the best memories. But after Charles Martin ... man, I can't even write that down ...

  • preciate it homie

  • "Kyle is our quarterback."

    "We'll look at where we are and what we have .."

    "I'm a box of cocks." ....

  • Joseph, thanks. Really when you think about it, the Bears would be unintelligent to not shop the guy around. Average NFL team see's 23 new faces on the roster every year. To think Olsen might be traded is kind of exciting considering potential draft implications to our team. Taylor Mays baby, or dare I say Suh?

  • There is another rumor about the Bears wanting Brandon Marshall.

    Olsen for Marshall? Is that what they're thinking? Probably Olsen and a 5th Rounder for Marshall.

    I'm more interested in Peppers right now because it looks as though this could happen. The 'skins want Peppers but he hasn't shown any interest in them. He HAS however shown interest in us! Of course he will go where the money is best, but if the Bears can pay stride for stride what the 'skins pay then #90 is a Bear in 2010.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Very interesting. I read about the Peppers stuff too. Ghost, do you know anything about the tampering rules? If so, did the Bears violate them by contacting his agent ahead of free agency? Although, depending on the penalty, might be worth the fine to get a jump on everyone else.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    BD, I think the Panthers gave teams permission to talk to Peppers. As long as thats the case its ok to talk to players.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Hey new to the page. I am 50/50 with this T.Jones thing, while he NO DOUBT was our heart and soul on offense when he was here I have to wonder if going the draft route might serve us better. We can always use a OL and draft a young guy with a CHIP. On a side note I have NEVER blogged this is my first post really ever but you guys are REAL fans with REAL points of view and PASSION. So I had to join up.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    The Peppers to the Bears stuff is actually on the network right now. I just don't see the Bears having enough to deal for Marshall, although Olsen's wanting out could make something happen. Marshall is a top three receiver in the league.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Denver already has Greg Olsen, but his name is Sheffler or something. Same guy, no chance an Olsen for Marshall trade is going down. Not unless we include a bag of cash, but we need said bag of cash for Mr Jalepeno.

    If we want a big receiver, Terrel Owens could probably be signed for a song and a dance. Although his skills seemed to be on their way out, while his douchebaggery appears to be in tact.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    TO's douchebaggery is akin to riding a bike. no matter how long it has been since you displayed your talent for it you can still count on the skill to be as sharp as a razor. If he didn't get every pass on every play he was in he would be bitching and moaning, causing problems and drama...basically he would start acting like a bag of douche.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    ... regarding Brandon Marshall...Florio from Pro Football Weekly, and I agree with him 100%, basically said there is literally zero chance the Broncos would trade him to the Bears..as much as I love the thought...we might as well put that one to bed....

    Also, someone inside the Bears organization insinuated that Peppers met with the bears this week...that would be prior to the FA period...that would be tampering.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Rumor for today:

    Bears called Wale back. Peppers and/or Kampmann may break the piggy bank because Martz wants a big TE and to dump Olsen and he wants a Westbrook type guy, so we may just get Wale back instead.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Yesterday I asked the question, what kind of coaching does Marrinelli really bring to the Bears defense as our new co-ordinator. What schemes is he known for, what wrinkles can we look forward to seeing next year with him at the helm?

    After some cursory reviews of his coaching career I am sad to say that there really is no expectation of an improvement for our defensive squad under his direction in my opinion.

    Marrinelli's only claim to fame(not including his passion and good rapport with players) seems to be when he coached the defensive line in Tampa when Dungy was in charge. This indicates to me that his success came off Dungy's coat tails and doesn't truly reflect his skills as a Defensive Co-Ordinator. Dungy played the lead role in player acquisitions while Rod was in Tampa. In fact Marrinelli's critics point out his poor track record for past player acquisitions was the reason he failed miserably in Detroit. This to me is very scary considering the role he's filling with the Bears now. So, the long and short of in my opinion is that even though the players love his personality, he really has no positive track record in his career and the squad in Detroit was flat out awful. As Head Coach in the motor city his Defensive was horrible and ranked 32nd in the league.

    This link shows how the Lions ranked in all major categories when Rod was HC.

    http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/football/teams/greatest.html

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Sorry guys, the post above is wrong. Please use this one.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/MariRo0.htm

  • If they can wind up with Peppers, Rolle/Sharper, and maybe Jones or Westbrook this could be a playoff team. Draft O-line! Sign a good O-line FA and we're good to go!

  • Anyone else hear the Peppers --> Bears talks are heating up?

    Mutual interest on both sides...

    Can't help but get a bit excited about the possibility of adding JP, but at what price? Most likely a fang and a claw.

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