Does Peppers Add Up?

I spent most of last off-season calling for the Bears to sign free agents and make trades.  They made the brilliant Cutler deal but balked at signing Darren Sharper and Brian Dawkins - two men that would have made the 2009 Bears infinitely better.  They also attempted in vain to acquire Anquan Boldin on draft day and avoided Brandon Marshall like the plague.  All in all, they walked into the season believing the Cutler was the last piece of the puzzle.  He was.  When the team put the puzzle together, it was a gorgeous picture of 7 wins and a third-place finish.

Now the availability of Julius Peppers is sending a thrill down Lake Shore as fans are starting to believe that a premiere pass rusher may be heading to Chicago.  And while the signing isn't likely to happen, it would be fitting.  Everything the Bears have done recently reflects a bucket listian sense of impending death.  Mike Martz may shift the offensive course but who wants to bet we're waiting for the group to gel in late October?  Rod Marinelli was deemed the savior of the defensive line and after failing miserably at that task has received a promotion to the defense's top spot.  These are not plans for the future, attempts to re-think the on-field philosophy.  These are last gasps by the head coach to show he knows what is correct for the ballclub.

Peppers would fit along those lines.  The once-dominant defensive end may have a year or two left in the tank but he'll be saddling his signer with an outlandish bonus that won't pay itself off unless he plays five years at a high level.  But neither Jerry nor Lovie can possibly believe they'll be here in 2011 without a successful 2010.  So wouldn't it be in both their best interests to mortgage the team's future for their own short-term salvation?

Peppers makes the 2010 Bears better.  Without question.  And I expect every decision made between now and September to be made toward that end.  


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  • Doc...Agree 100%..sign Peppers.

    JA and the rest of the clowns in management.. take a moment out of the circle jerk and get this done! ASAP!

  • There is less than zero chance that Peppers gets signed. Nada.

  • Peppers would be decent but I thought last year he was only agreeing to look at teams who ran a 3-4 because he wanted out of the 4-3. But if he did come here, you'd really only be a big NT away from a 3-4 eligible roster.
    Personally, I would just as soon see the safe pick up of Kampman which makes a lot of sense for the player and the team and spend the money or picks to get a GD safety already.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Which brings us right back to Mr. Suh. The keystone to a 3-4 defense, and a dynasty in the NFC North. We could battle Rodgers for the rest of his career and conceivably Favre's.

  • Doct Nitty 34, that would be awesome fun to watch and listen. It's too bad though(I'm being negative again) they usually cut away from players shoving each other after a play just ended. We got wars going on overseas but we can't show two football players shoving each on the television........frustrating.

    Oh yeah...sign Peppers.

  • Doc-

    A friend of mine and I have been talking about this for years. I agree, HBO or something can air a mic'd up version of the games...or maybe NFL network can get another channel similar to the redzone, but with mic'd up players and no announcers.

    Its extremely entertaining....and there is substantially more insight gained actually hearing the interactions between players, etc.

    The NFL could still oversee and edit things related to game plan or whatever if they see that as an issue.

  • With all the issues about Free Agents during an uncapped year that arise on here, I found this on a milehighblog and just included the nfl responses regarding free agents and franchised players.

    "Q. What determines an unrestricted free agent in the Final League Year (2010)?

    A. In capped seasons, a player whose contract has expired becomes an unrestricted free agent if he has four or more accrued seasons. In the Final League Year (2010), a player whose contract has expired becomes an unrestricted free agent only if he has six or more accrued seasons. An unrestricted free agent is free to sign with any club with no compensation owed to his old club.

    Q. What determines whether a player is a restricted free agent in the "Final League Year?"

    A. In capped seasons, a player whose contract expires becomes a restricted free agent if he has three accrued seasons. In the Final League Year (2010), a player whose contract expires becomes a restricted free agent if he has three, four or five accrued seasons. The first refusal/compensation rights of restricted free agents remain unchanged in the Final League Year.

    Q. In addition to the right to designate a franchise (or transition) player each capped year, can clubs designate additional players in the Final League Year?

    A. Yes, one additional player can be tagged. In capped years, a club may designate a franchise player or a transition player. In the final league year (2010), a club may designate one additional transition player. A transition player must be offered a minimum of the average of the top 10 salaries of the prior season at the player's position or 120 percent of the player's prior year's salary, whichever is greater. A transition player designation gives the club a first-refusal right to match within seven days an offer sheet given to the player by another club after his contract expires. If the club matches, it retains the player. If it does not match, it receives no draft pick compensation from that club."

  • Alan Page far deep into his career when the Bears signed him, I suppose peppers would be worth a shot. This organization has to be careful of short cuts though. Hopefully next season will come and go fast. I think it's going to be ugly.

  • i like kampman better than peppers. hes not as good but he'll be cheaper and stick around longer. i dont want a good team next year as much as i want a good team when lovie gets replaced

  • sign Kampman. He likes the 4-3 and has more years than Peppers left in his tank. he would be cheaper to get and would make a great end on the other side of AB.

  • NFL not ruling out a ban of the 3 point stance. why not just ban tackling and get it over with?

  • In reply to robclements36:

    Whoa, whoa, whoa... let's not get crazy now RC.

    Comon man, they're not going to do anything silly like that.

    But maybe we can make things a bit more safe by getting rid of those hard helmets, because that

  • In reply to robclements36:

    Thanks Lobotobear: I appreciate the welcome. I hope my dedication doesnt rub people too wrong,but I absolutely love my Bears!! I look forward to discussing our Bears together,in a supportive way,although I realize it is hard to do at times. But this is our team and I always hope for the best each & every year. Take care. Bear down! Go Bears!

  • In reply to robclements36:

    Al, flag?

  • In reply to robclements36:

    Before Roger Goodell is done there will be franchises in Canada, Mexico, and Europe and we will be known as the NFFL. National FLAG Football League because tackling is too tough. Damn...I imagine Bronko Nagurski and Bulldog Turner are rolling in their graves.

  • In reply to robclements36:

    Football isn't violent enough. I want Rollerball not Whiffleball pattercake.

  • In reply to robclements36:

    "That deal was to make me the highest-paid defensive player, but slightly, very slightly," Peppers said. "I didn't really feel the sincerity behind that deal."

    Exhibit A - Julius Peppers is a dick.

    Exhibit B : Why do we need an older Tommie Harris ? Why don't Carolina want him if he's so good ? We can't even afford him, can we ?

    The Panthers could use the franchise tag again in 2010, but it would include a 20 percent raise. Peppers would be due $20.1 million, plus another $1.5 million Pro Bowl bonus and $250,000 for each playoff victory

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Fuck me... I'm in the wrong business.

  • also, i am very excited to see Knox, Bennett, DA and Hester develop under Martz. You have to admit that the thought of that is a little exciting. I hope Hester is back full time at kickoff and punt returner and once in a while at receiver.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Martz was interviewed on the score this morning. He said that Hester could be this teams Az-Zahir Hakim...even admitted that you can't expect Devin to be what he was on special teams if he is in on the field for every snap on offense. Wow, that makes sense! I think Devin can still be a weapon on offense...but as we all seem to agree on, not as the First option.

  • A team that wants to win NEXT year will sign Peppers. Unfortunately, Halas hall is looking more down the road after they "develop" their current roster.

  • Johnny-

    Everything I've heard related to the Hester issue, including Devin himself, indicate that finally, Hester is going to assume the role of full time punt/kick returner and more of a specialist at the receiver position..

    Thank god.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I want Hester paid a bonus for every kick return over 40 yards. i want him paid for every kick out of bounds that gives us the ball damn near mid field. i want him to run with the reckless abandon of a rookie that was trying to earn that sick ass contract extension. DEVIN, COME BACK TO US!!!!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    RUN, DEVIN, RUN !!!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Lovies too tight with the prez and it would be too much bad press if the Bears fire him while he's still in office. Look for a 1 year contract extension next year. By that time Cowher should be coaching his grandsons little league team.

  • In reply to Dmband:


    Yes. Thats the way his contract should have been structured years ago. Instead the "braintrust" as Jeff so aptly titled them, decided they would give him receiver based incentives even though HE NEVER PLAYED RECEIVER BEFORE IN HIS CAREER.

    I seriously dont know how those guys are employed.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    dmb, I am completely with you man. I (angrily) posted a while back that I honestly have no clue how sincere, abject idiocy like that continuously displayed by these three hasn

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Off topic, but check this out:

    Pretty interesting. BTW, I always liked Marshall Faulk.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...NICE FIND!!!! Does anyone know what Martz email is and we need to send this to him ASAP. Hopefully this reminds him of this conversation and then he needs to shove it up LDL's ASS! to get him understand why we picked the LIMP O-Line we have and we need RG Today!

  • In reply to MB30SD:


    "Disgusting cronyism coupled with abysmal, reckless, negligent execution

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Hello,fellow Bear fans: I am a 1st time poster here,although I have been reading the blog for a year now. I stopped posting last year on other sites cause it was nothing but,hate,fair weather fans and attacks on everyone. I do like this site though as most of you appear to be genuine Bear fans. I have been a Die hard Bear fan for 45 years,and am from Elgin IL. I look forward to future postings with you all,take care. BEAR DOWN! GO BEARS,YOUR TRUE FANS WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears: will find all here bleed Navy Blue and Burnt Orange and YES! BEAR DOWN!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    This guy played for the highschool in Texas where I live. He would be a great draft pick in 2011 if he comes out early which he probably will. He's 6-7 250lb. The guy has a cannon and is the real deal.

    Ryan Mallet QB Arkansas

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    lol yea he goes to my alma mater (played b-ball w/ him a couple of times too....real hot-head type of guy). he's a BEAST on the football field tho and has all the skills to take it to the next level, but needs to learn the basics a little more (b/c, oddly enough, he makes the same mistakes cutty makes)

  • In reply to FQD1911:


    Any thoughts/feedback from the inside? How's your boy Harrison doing? Get some dirt for us man!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    haha i'll see him sometime this summer and yea we'll have much to talk about.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Welcome #1BearsFan. Say what you like ... we do. You may get compared to a sexual act by Da Coach, or receive an illegal procedure flag from Al, but it's all done outta love !
    Trade Olsen ! Go Bears !

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Hypothetical question. Let's say the Bears could sign any player currently playing the game or about to get drafted to their team (no matter where that player is now or what contract he's under). Would you take someone on O or D? I have to think the answer is D.

    The reason I ask is because the Bears are working with a short deck going into the post-season. If they've got enough cards to make one big play, I'd like to see them pick up someone for the D. I'm not really too concerned if that someone is a chaos making DE, a third down killing safety or a student LB to take BU's spot, but I think the D is where the big move should be. We could pick up the best O-lineman in the NFL and I don't think it would make the kind of difference that a defender would.

    Thoughts? (and if you said you'd take Peyton Manning, look at what happens when your whole offense relies on an elite passer).

  • In reply to mottystone:

    My gut is that our o line needs young stud help at both guard positions. and I'm not at all convinced (actually not at all) that Beekman can replace Olin at center as a franchise player for years to come. So while we may be one true #1 WR FA (m. floyd please) away from a pretty interesting full house on the offensive 'skilled player' side, I know that we need to start building the future of the o line ASAP.

    Now, that said, I don

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    damn typos... sorry.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Fkn A, MB !!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...nailed right on the head!problem is I wish most of the bloggers were making the choices rather than the ragamufin's we have in management. Ah Crap!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well, you never know. We could get someone in the 4th or 5th round. JA seems to get lucky later in the draft.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Precisely. And I'm afraid we're back at Mr. Suh. Again. Whoever gets him gets The Thing in a uniform. I doubt they'll put Hester back on ST. We're paying him too much and Angelo/Gump don't admit their big mistakes. So trade him and Olsen while Olsen is still worth something - his career on the Bears ceases to be under Mike Martz, he can't block and there's no way around that. Would the Rams be interested in Olsen/Hester ? Mr. Suh is worth more than those two put together, neither are producing what they need to produce and aren't likely to IMHO. And if we snag him ... the NFC North is blue and orange for a very long time.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    [Tight end Greg Olsen led the Bears with 60 catches and eight receiving touchdowns in 2009, but Martz suggested that Olsen will need to focus primarily on blocking in 2010.

    "All tight ends, their first responsibility, they have to put their hand down on the line of scrimmage and be a successful blocker, and then they move to receiving," Martz said. "To just skip by that and say, 'He's a terrific receiver,' well, then you might as well just put another wide receiver in there."]

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Stunning article.

    And for those still drinking the Olsen milk ... play with this. After 4 games he had 10 catches all season. Play with that ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Oh..Oh..... Mr. Olsen come to the front of the class near the chalk board and will go over some blocking strategies..

    Looks like someone is going back to school or he is going to be sent out for disciplinary reasons.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I would rather the Bears sign Aaron Kampman. He is a good player at a position we need, he would come with a much smaller price tag and he wouldn't be a prima-donna like Peppers probably would.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Flag on the play. Unnecessary roughness. 15 yard penalty Automatic First Down.

    Careful Al, "I shot a man in Reno .... just to watch him die ...."

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I have to give anybody claiming to be a veteran of
    THE GIBRON YEARS some slack, MB. Welcome, #1 BearsFan.

    HERE'S a stunner:

    I AGREE with IrishSweetness on Julius Peppers! (oh - My - GAWD!)

    Is not the knock on Mr.Peppers that he tends to "ration" his all-world ability?

    I watched him personally destroy the Cardinals this past season.
    Truly a 1-man wrecking crew rivaling days I saw Dick Butkus have. Arizona had NO answer for Julius who kept the Panthers ahead in the game and then sealed the deal with a late strip-6. Certainly had to be one of the memories that induced Kurt Warner to hang it up.

    That said, I thought the reason he never got the money he felt he was due from Carolina was becasue there were just TOO many other times he played "Mandrake The Magician' and made himself DISAPPEAR for either plays at a time or even games at a time.

    As has been inferred, I sort of consider him Tommie Harris-East.

    Who wants that?

    Oh man, did I really just support an IrishSweetness post?

    Please pass the Pepto.

    On the other hand, Ndamakong Suh?

    You'd have to LOVE a football player with KONG in his name.
    I can hear Johnny Cash now:
    "My name is SUH! How do you DO! You gonna DIE!

    Sigh. Pipe dream.
    As in "Put down the crack pipe, tain't gonna happen".

    The Bears don't have ANY combination that would induce the Rams to move that #1.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al..Sure they do. We can give them Lovie Back for Suh. I wish!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I get it Al, just struck me as a bit of a strang entry to a football blog.

    Maybe I'm being a bit too harsh latley guys. Sorry for my Havanees story Canada, I actually like the little guy, I'm just personaly not a 'shaggy' dog guy - didn't mean to call you out for your choice of mutt.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I say bring Dvoracek back and give him another chance. Should be able to get him for dirt. Also think Deon Saunders would improve the secondary greatly. Hell Michael Strahan could probably help next year as well. I say its time to start rebuilding with young talent that has tremendous upside. Peppers isn't the answer. I'm ready for a total rebuilding process so at least we may be able to take advantage of Cutlers ability in 3 or 4 years. Our D is getting older and bringing on more players that are long in the tooth will only delay the inevitable.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Man, I saw Strahan on Conan or Letterman or Spike whateverstein, he was asked if he could still play, or would like to, he nearly broke down crying. He wants to play. Dvoracek mightn't be a bad idea - he was our starting under tackle after all... you could get him for a six-pack too ...

  • indeed. Max, is that you?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    ...not you BAM

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    BTW, Martz certainly says pretty much ALL the right things in this Q&A:

    But how much of it is just spin? I guess we'll see, but again, all of the things he says are 100% spot on. Should be interesting next season at the very least.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Listen to Cutler's response 45 seconds in. Worrying.

    As for Peppers - at what cost do we take on an ageing end ? At the cost of us missing out on a #1 receiver or a free safety ? A guard ? We've already got defensive ends ? We haven't see Gilbert or Melton yet. Sadly, Marinelli won't get to finish with Anderson etc. If we can get him cheap, sure, but he's not coming cheap. Elvis Dumervil is younger and in form ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    never worry about your QB having confidence like that. what's he supposed to say to that stupid question? "No, I don't feel like i can make every throw". Your supposed to feel like you could make the throw every time but as you mature you know that even though you have the skills to make it that doesn't mean you should do it.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    How about we sign Peppers and Kampman. Then we can call them salt & pepper,LOL. Just kidding,but I think Kampman would be a great signing if we could do it. He wants to be back in a 4-3 where he excells,he is noticeably unhappy with the defensive switch in G-bay. I just cant see Peppers here in Chi Town,not that I think it would be bad. GO BEARS!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    But let's think BIG ! Target ? Ndomukong Suh. How ? Trades. Advantage ? A dominant defense for 8 years.

  • Haha. True. Then menos que nada?

  • Actually, let's see if we can just trade the staff :-)

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