Cause for Concern?

I've come to terms with the hiring of Mike Martz as the Bears offensive coordinator.  As days have gone by, I've actually started liking the move.  But reading Jerry Angelo's comments on the hiring set me back a bit.

Will you have to change the roster to accommodate the type of players who excel in Martz's offense?

"No. We talked about that. Our roster is pretty well set. We don't
have the first two picks in the draft. Free agency, potentially will be
very limited. It's not like we won't look for players like we do every
year but we're not going into this thinking we have to have an overhaul
with our offense."

There are eleven positions on the offensive side of the ball.  The Bears are "set" at quarterback, running back, left tackle and one of the wide receiver spots.  They have a below-average fullback (especially for a running team).  They may lack a number on receiver, though DA certainly showed glimmers of greatness down the stretch.  But most importantly no one can make a convincing argument that the Bears have top tier players at either guard, right tackle or center. 

So if "our roster is pretty well set" then we should all be pretty well resigned to miss the postseason in 2010.

ADDENDUM: Sometimes comments earn their way up here.  Albert in Tuscon:

Did he say "pretty well set"?

June 25th, 1876 -
Captain: "Shouldn't we bring a few more men, sir?".
Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

He REALLY said "pretty well set."?

April 14, 1912:
1st Officer: "Maybe we should reduce our speed, Captain."
Edward J. Smith,Captain, RMS Titanic: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

Did I hear that right? "Pretty well set."?

December 6th, 1941 -
Port Commander: "Should be have the battleship squadron put to sea, sir?
Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, Commander US Pacific Fleet,
Pearl Harbor, Hawaii: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

PLEASE tell me he didn't say "Pretty well set." !

January 18, 2010-
Political Aide: "Shouldn't we be campaigning harder against this Scott Brown fellow, ma'am?"
Marth Coakley, Democrat candidate for
US Senate from Massachussetts: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

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  • First?!

  • The Bears need to trade Greg Olsen for their picks back. Was reading this on another blog and I thought it would be a great idea. Teams like the Pats would use him.

    http://www.themanchise.com/2010/02/why-bears-should-trade-greg-olsen.html

  • I think you're getting the term "pretty well set" confused with satisfied.

    Angelo's right, they are limited in what they can do.

    I keep seeing these FA wish lists but they tend to be generated by people that don't understand the difference between a RFA and an UFA.

    My contention is that the cause for concern is on the other side of the ball. I think the O this upcoming season will be average or above average (ranked 18th or higher). Three years ago that, plus a dominant D and Hester got us to the SB. Those last two items are no longer here.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Nothing to stop a restricted free agent from moving teams if both parties are agreed on it. San Diego in particular would have difficulty in keeping their players ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    A RFA or tagged player requires a number 1 or number 2 pick, we don't have any day 1 picks to trade to aquire any RFAs.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    well that's us completely frakked then ....

  • In reply to dutsami:

    My understanding is that if we offer a RFA a contract and his team doesn't match it then we have to compensate them with the picks. They can trade a RFA for whatever they want.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I meant for a tagged player. The team just has the right to match any offer from another team when it is a RFA. That is why all those creative contracts were coming out so teams would have problems matching them exactly.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Irish..looked wiki earlier when MB was asking about RB's in the scheme. It WILL BE A DIFFERENT LOOK. but not sure it works with what we have. "pretty well set".

    AS the the dosctor has said before.."this may hurt"

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Lobo, I seldom need more that this... OORRRR this!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85PcMJ9D8X0

  • In reply to MB30SD:

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  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey MB....I think that's my Doctor for my annual...LOL

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    Hey MB....I think that's my Doctor for my annual...LOL

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    Hey MB....I think that's my Doctor for my annual...LOL

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey MB....I think that's my Doctor for my annual...LOL

    Jeff had tried to post this ten times..What's up!!!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff..What's the problem with the site...can not post for over an hour?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB.. I think that was my doctor from my annual check up..LOL

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...Hey I think that is my doctor from my annual checkup!!!.....Youch! It makes life easier because he travel to you! LOL

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Hey, Turner's gone, that's all that matters. It would be hard to repeat that ...

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Hey, Turner's gone, that's all that matters. It would be hard to repeat that ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    gp, Cowher doesn't want to work for the McASSkeys?

    Go figure.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, I thought that was Governor Tarkin's line?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Hey ! Governor Tarkin .... Jerry Angelo ! All the power but not really running the show ....

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    This may or may not be off the beaten path.

    For me it actually helped define some lines about the upcoming situation in the (CBA) that everyone on this blog has been touching on:
    http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Frustration-continues-on-NFL-labor-front.html

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    He makes a decent agrument, gp, though I find it comical that he references Brady as if he was retired and his case also hinges upon the supposition that the Colts will win on Sunday,

    That said, this penchant/compulsion/need for media wonks to want name "The Best Ever" on almost a daily basis is tiresome.

    BTW, Go Saints!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I also commend Ross Tucker for limiting the scope of his case to the last 30 years and players he has actually seen.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    To some degree, but he is comparing QBs to Montana, 16s hay day was the mid 80s, so Tucker would have been like 5-8 years old. I didn't watch a whole lot of football at that age especially with any level of competence in judging skill. Not to mention they didn't have the NFL Network back then so unless he grew up in the San Fran area he wouldn't have gotten to see him play a lot anyway. Plus, I have no idea who the F Ross Tucker is and why anyone would care anymore about his opinion on the topic than any random blog poster.

    Manning is good, damn good. But on my all-time all madden team, I'll take Joe Montana and Walter Payton in my backfield, thanks anyway.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Fuckin A. Joe Cool and Sweetness for me too. Montana was impressive, Manning is mechanical. Is having Jim Brown at FB cheating ?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Ha! Well done, Albert!

    Perhaps I'm naiive, but I'm not taking Jerry's comments to heart. He is not unlike your average politician who lies not necessarily to be deceitful but to force a political maneuver...i.e. Nixon on Vietnam escalation. Jerry might have just been pandering to players or other entities within the organization.

    And in a way he's right...they're not going to make any huge splashes on D-Line except probably get rid of Wale. The Linebacking corps is set. The Secondary has Tillman and Bowman who probably aren't going anywhere and Lovie's love interest Danieal Manning is back at Safety with Steltz, Afalava, and hopefully a big-name free agent. I think that's who the Bears take into 2010.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Yah basically, they are probably pretty much set. How much change could he really implement even if he wanted to?
    Where are the big ?s
    LG - Omiyale or a draft pick
    RT - Schaefer or Omiyale
    FB - I still think they should just have AP gain 15 lbs but I guess Im alone.
    FS - This hole has been here since... Plank left.

    To me it would be fesable to get a competent guard and safety with the round 3 and round 4 picks and the rest, is really kind of set.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    FTW..

    LG-Draft? Yes.problem is time
    RT- Yes.Schaefer
    FB- Not alone on the Bulk Him UP!!! I agree we need to pound that ball on the one yard line in the last minutes of the 4th and 1. Problem is we are never in that scenerio. always playing catch up.
    FS-oooohhhh Plank...miss that kamikaze attitude. Problem what is out in the FA world. So it may have to be a 4th round pick but as the LG situation...time

  • Hey, Jerry, I wonder whose fault it is that we don't have a 2nd round pick this year?!?

    /had to be said...though it's sad on all accounts

  • Jeff, it's interesting you should say that. The JA comment stuck out like a sore thumb to me as well. Remember, it was all Turners fault. Next year will prove that it wasn't i'm sorry to say.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Turner's gone and that's a good thing. He was incompetence incarnate. But our line needs to improve talent wise, and look at the ducheyne picking our linemen.

    Agree with all of that Jeff, we're looking at Shabba as a decent receiver, but that's it. Knox will need to step up with a new playbook. He needs to be more like DeSean Jackson or move aside. If we had Dez and Kellen working the middle, Shabba and a V-Jack working the outsides, a big bruising back from FA to complement Forte and Bell ... that would be sweet. Someone has to go in order for us to accumulate ammo - who goes ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I'm just saying it wasn't all turners fault but JA seems to think it was.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Was being sarcastic.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    From his post:

    "Let

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Guys, what I'm trying to tell you, trading players just isn't going to happen. You have to stop fantasizing

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    say what you want about these new hires, at least the didn't throw in the towel.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Well, I didn't really want him but we got him so...

    I will stay upbeat. Turner is gone, Martz is here and I'm going to back him. I don't give a rats ass about lovie or JA, I want the Bears to win. If Martz can make our offense put up big points and utilize Jay and the WR corps along with recognizing talent before it's too late and wasted on the practice squad them I'm going to be behind him 100%.

    BEAR DOWN! I'm going to keep an open mind and hope for the freakin best.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    Turner *is* gone, and *that* is something to be upbeat about!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Sigh.

    Time to call the proctologist to remove Jerry's
    you-know-what from his you-know-where.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Did he say "pretty well set"?

    June 25th, 1876 -
    Captain: "Shouldn't we bring a few more men, sir?".
    Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    He REALLY said "pretty well set."?

    April 14, 1912:
    1st Officer: "Maybe we should reduce our speed, Captain."
    Edward J. Smith,Captain, RMS Titanic: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Did I hear that right? "Pretty well set."?

    December 6th, 1941 -
    Port Commander: "Should be have the battleship squadron put to sea, sir?
    Admiral Husband E. Kimmel, Commander US Pacific Fleet,
    Pearl Harbor, Hawaii: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    PLEASE tell me he didn't say "Pretty well set." !

    January 18, 2010-
    Political Aide: "Shouldn't we be campaigning harder against this Scott Brown fellow, ma'am?"
    Marth Coakley, Democrat candidate for
    US Senate from Massachussetts: "Nah. We're pretty well set."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Darth Vader on the first Death Star : So that 2 metre wide intake vent doesn't need to be welded shut ?

    Chief Engineer : Nah. We're pretty well set.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al...NNNNNIIIIIIICCCCCEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Ahhhhh, Irish. Playing coy with us eh?

    Hmmmm.... who do you think should go.... whoooooo should gooooo.... oh, decisions decisions. Hmmm

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Certainly not a certain tow-headed youngster who blocks like he burned his fingers on the stove-top.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Hahahahaha... perfect MBP.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I am honored. Thank you, Blogfather.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Al In WI, a bunch of other posters also... Why is Hester an idiot? Is it because he uses 133t speech on twitter? Is it because he has a southern accent? Or is it because he has a bachlors degree in Phys Ed from UM?
    It really isnt that big of deal, but if one of our favorite Bears happens to check our site(think about it, they have to check this shit)then what does that make him feel like? Maybe he ignores our blabber, maybe it fuels him, or maybe even he reads or hears about it and thinks.."yeah, i wish these midwestern fuckers would trade me already".
    Dont get me wrong, I think he should be the one touching the ball everytime another team boots it. But i also think the man should line up as a WR everytime Jay takes a snap. I'm not as old as most of you guys(hehe)but didnt the bears have a guy line up as a kicker/OLine/DLine? Anywho, return specialist have often lined up as starters at WR or DB, and my point being, he just isnt utilized correctly.
    OK, Jeff, You say the bears are set at ONE WR possition. are you talking about Aromashadu? C'mon man, Bennett is the real deal and so is Hester. Please let us give them one more year to prove it. Might as well eh! After this year EVERYTHING is going to change!

  • In reply to Church:

    Hester is an idiot because he can't comprehend the role of wide receiver. Getting open and catching the ball is only a third of the game - Hester doesn't block, doesn't know his reads, messes his routes up, he does have quite good hands.

    But Bennett and Hester are the real deal ? Oh Jebus Freist ..... Jerry rice was the real deal, Tom Waddle, guys like that. What's Bennettt's strength. Ain't speed, ain't strength or size and it's not route running (contrary to some selective memories on here). Bennett and Hester have had plenty of time to adjust, and they were piss poor slow at doing so. Now they have to learn a NEW playbook. Earl fucking Bennett ? Shabba is our only hope, the other midgets should compete for a single position in the slot and we need to go out and get a #1 receiver ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Lets blame all of this on Turner for now and worry about Defense.
    I have to admit that we have no Jerry Rice! But lets look at waddle, my favorite Bear-post-Payton. Irish, i know this is gonna burn under your skin but Bennett is alot like Waddle! Not fast, not strong, but LOVES to catch the ball! Seriously, lets give Fartz one year and see waht he does with Bennett/hester/Aromashadu and Iglesias. Hell Juaquin may be the next Rice/Holt/Bruce but we have no fucking idea because Turner can't seem to get a rookie WR on the field.
    AlInWI, Irish, I respect you guys, you have a ton of good ideas, but you have to admit the Offense is not our problem. What if we had last years O with the last superbowl D. We would have owned Indy.

  • In reply to Church:

    I don't know man, our O-line had two reasonable games, and it all stems from there. I like one of our receivers and two of our TEs, with a new playbook I think the kids will continue to struggle with the 'brain stuff'. There's no true pounder in the backfield. We'll see. Defensively - it's interesting that Leslie Frazier hasn't signed back with the Queens. If he can't get a HC position might he come home to the Bears ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, that would be like a dream come true to get Frazier. I was sure after Lovie canned Rivera that he would never hire another ex-bear. But i read an article about how Frazier and Dungy are very buddybuddy. If thats the case then maybe there is hope that there is already some connection between Lovie and Leslie.
    So, if the Queens have lead the league in run D the last few years how much of that is credit to Frazier(and how much to 'roids)

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Soooo, when these millionaires and billionaires can't figure an equitable way to divvy up the BILLIONS and BILLIONSof dollars NFL football generates, guess who gets screwed?

    If I was the NCAA I be working on a full slate of Sunday games for 2011.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    AL..A sad state of affairs. As you said Billions! and they can not come to an agreement? How long have they been working on this? wow.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hey, we could re-name our Replacement-Player Team

    THE CHICAGO BARES.

    We could even rewrite the fight song:

    "Bare down, Chicago bares,
    make every play pave the way to nudity!
    Bare down, Chicago bares,
    to have a work stoppage is stupidity!
    We'll never forget the way you screwed the nation
    with this abominaaaation!
    Bare down, Chicago bares,
    and let'em know why we're wearin' a frown
    there's no pride or joy so don't be coy
    Chicago Bares, bare down!"

    HA! Eat your hearts out, Rogers & Hammerstein!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al...It's a beautiful thing...LOL..

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Da Dean of Da Blog FTW!!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Da Dean of Da Blog FTW!!

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Uuuuhhhhhgggg...

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=6529

    This guys looks younger than Jay for christo sake! And lucky us, he's a QC coach for the star QB-heavy 49ers - looks like he fits the classic mould the Bears love, young, totally unproven, and heading for mediocrity - now THIS is a guy Jay can take orders from. You sure know how to pick 'em boys!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, just remember coaches coach, players play. I do think that we may just have decent coaching this year. Hopefully that phase of our team perform this year. My major concern has and is the players on the team. Can they produce this year? If the O-line and secondary is not addressed we are in deep doo doo.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    make no mistake about it. with Martz as your OC you don't need a QB coach. He will just be there to remind Jay to throw off his front foot, throw it away or tuck it and run when nothings open and to congratulate him on perfectly thrown seam passes to Olsen and perfectly executed deep slants off a Mike Martz newly invented 10 step drop.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Let's not get hung up on who would be good scab players, playing scab fantasy football, Jebus ...

    After musing on Martz for a while, seeing how it sit like a new drink, it hit me in the wikipedias.

    I hated Ron Turner. I hated our offense. I hated that Cutler hated our offense and wasn't happy. Coach Z over on CB.com had the best post I ever read, detailing Turner's Sid Gillman/Don Coryell offense and why it fails against modern, faster defenses. I looked up our friend Martz as I wasn't familiar with his philosophy. And what is it ? Exactly the same as Turner's : Gillman/Coryell. How do you like them apples ?

    It gets better.

    (a) It doesn't work on Bear turf.

    (b) The system requires multiple, proficient route runners (Ha!) who can live with timing patterns (gmph!), and it requires excellent pass protection. Thank baby jebus we have Frank Omigale then.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Sweetness, i think you will see a distinct difference in playcalling style this year. Turner couldn't adapt. Martz loves knowing he is more skilled than the opposing coordinator. he loves exploiting weaknesses on the other team. Turner couldn't spot a weakness if it ran a dive play right into his back

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish.

    ... "gmph!"? Nice.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Omiyale, even, like it matters ... he'll be an ex-Bear this year hopefully.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    OK -- these trade talks are bullshit and need to stop. 54 for Mayo? Since when does Belechik take it up the pooper in a trade?

    Yes -- I am confident that Martz will put the players in the best position to succeed, its just that those players, minus Culter and Forte, are either green or of questionable quality. We'll see.

    To me the biggest off season move would be to take that money saved by not firing Lovie and grab Peppers, move him the RDE and Brown over to left. Do that and you just made the secondary a hell of a lot better.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    It was Olsen and Urlacher for Mayo and a 2nd rounder.

    I don't think so either. Maybe if we threw Knox in there, to be the new Wes Welker.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Again, you should look at trades that would make sense to both teams, this would make sense for neither. We get an average NFL 3-4 ILB who is average size; he was a first round pick because he fit the 3-4 system well at ILB. They get one of the best 4-3 MLBs in the league who is a giant but has never played in a 3-4. What sense would that make, if you trade away Urlacher you better damn well get an actual 4-3 mike and a pick in return. You can't just throw any random LB at Mike especially in the Tampa 2 and expect to see anything different than we saw in 09.
    Trading away Urlacher does nothing except create another immediate hole to fill with no draft picks. We would lose ground on the roster and that is not the intent.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Agree.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Agreed. We didn't have a backup for Urlacher THIS year, and whatever we got in return for him wouldn't help to replace him. His loss was HUGE, I don't think we realise how much we lost when he went down. Since our roster will be virtually the same next year, we'll see a better defense than we were expecting. Seeing Hillenmeyer at the heart of the defense just lowered our expectations a lot. It was disturbing seeing our ship lost at seas without its captain. Even if he is a dick.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Cower wants the Giants job, not wanting to work for McCaskeys.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/02/bill-cowher-door-is-still-open-to-coaching-in-nfl-but-there-is-no-set-place/1

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, that's some pretty mighty readin tween the lines. No one really wants to work for these fucking clowns, but for the right price, and the right oversight/power position, I bet he would.

    Let's see what happens next year. I need to keep my hopes and dreams alive.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Guys, I don't remember, and am too lazy to look it up. Does the greatest show on terrible sod have a spot for a traditionally played FB? I don't remember one?

    I would rather have a weaver (from philly) type who's a big ass load and can catch like matty.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Why would JA ever publically admit a need to overhaul the roster?

    If he admitted the roster was in need of improvement, it would effectively let RT off the hook and make JA and the Bears look like idiots for making the wrong hire and fire.

    While it may be true, don't expect a GM to ever admit a need for serious overhaul. Doing so would be a serious indictment of his own performance and it would be like asking ownership to fire fire him and I don't think JA wants to get fired.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Shady...Point taken.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Urlacher, a hole at FS since PLANK left (1984)?
    A BIT of an overstatement, I think.

    Have to wonder what effect the looming 2011 work stoppage on free agency this off-season.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al..I though you might like this

    Under the tutelage of Long and defensive coordinator Bronco Mendenhall, Urlacher became a

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Two words... Mike Brown.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Albert. You're the Dean of Da Bears Blog. Great historic look at Nah, We're Pretty Well Set. Didn't Hitler say the same thing about sending his Tiger Tanks to the Normandy Front June 6th 1944? Oh, forgot.. he was sound asleep. Go Bears.

  • In reply to tkfay:

    Fuck Hitler...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOMKloOEKcU

  • In reply to tkfay:

    Normandy is a great reference too, Jersey. I love the scene in PATTON where Field Marshall Rommel, who realizes that Normandy IS, in fact, THE invasion, tells Field Marshall Jodl, who is waiting for Patton to attack at the Pas de Calais...

    "Our reserves are sitting on the beach at Calais throwing pebbles at each other while our troops are being slaughtered in Normandy!"

    Let's hope Jerry isn't throwing pebbles on Oak Street Beach while our QB gets slaughtered behind a substandard offensive line.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al..let's hope you last line does not come to fruition.

  • In reply to tkfay:

    MB, what we REALLY need is a Joey Porter who plays Safety or Offensive tackle or guard.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al...What did you think about the message I replied on you before...? BU.. He was a hybrid in UNM.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    LOVE the hybrid SS/ILB idea Lobo... I tossed out something similar about a 'kill-back' a few threads ago. We just need to find someone to play it. Not sure BU is up to it anymore, but maybe.

    Oh shit, I just remembered that you need an aggressive, creative, dynamic DC to even think about running a formation like that. Oh well.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Thanks for that list, MB.

    Related trivia..

    Talk about being cast against type. The late John "TOOZ" Matuszak played OFFENSIVE lineman, O.W. Shadduck in NORTH DALLAS FORTY. His best moment was when he confronted ass-hole assistant coach, Charles Durning (who actually stormed Omaha Beach on D-Day) with the following rant:

    "Every time we call it a sport, YOU guys call it a business and every time we call it a business YOU say it's a sport!"

    Fred "THE HAMMER" Williamson played brain surgeon/ringer QB, Oliver "Spearchucker" Jones, in the big screen version of MASH.

    Dr. "Hawkeye' Pierce: "Duke, we got our orders. We can go home."
    Dr. Oliver "Spearchucker" Jones: "Mind if we get out of this man's brain, first?"

    Alas, "THE TOOZ" and Lyle Alzado both died young and, last I heard, the "Refrigerator's" health was not so good.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Very nice Al. thanks for that.

    Alzado died because he took so may roids he freaked out and killed himself (he lived in my college town), and the fridge had some weird disease and almost died a few months back... not sure how he's doing now

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    My bad... that was the rumor going around - he died of a brain tumor he said was caused by the roids. Damn I'm getting old, memory's going.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Alzado

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    With Martz now running the "O" at least if it's third and 3 we won't slam running back into Kruetz's ass. KILL THE BUBBLE SCREEN TOO Mikey!!!

  • In reply to tkfay:

    Jersey..you had to bring that up!!!

  • In reply to tkfay:

    It is now known as " The play we do not mention"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Durning played a Pepto-Bismol swilling assistant coach in a performance for the ages. Durning often played the foil/turd guy, but as Al said - this guy hit the beaches at Normandy.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Interesting story at the sun-times. Devin Hester admitting he would rather be a return man than a #1 WR.

    The two most interesting parts:

    Silvy: If you had your choice between #1 receiver, or full-time returner, what would you choose?

    Hester: "I know what I'm best at, and the return game is my bread and butter, so if I had to cut back on my receiving and go back to the return game, that's something I would love to do."

    Silvy: 13 touchdowns in 2 years. How did your pace slow down?

    Hester:" ... Becoming the 4th wide receiver, you know, it's real tough coming out there being the 4th wide receiver and then trying to do the return game with your tired legs. As a returner, you've got to have fresh legs every time out there, and when you're kind of wanting to lull it in the middle of the game, it's pretty tough to try to make five or six guys miss."

    see the story here: http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/02/hester_would_love_to_be_return.html

    man. I would be 110% behind him moving back to kickoffs and punts with some occasional WR time. Kinda like 2007 when he had 6-10 plays on offense and still managed to return 7 kicks/punts. miss that.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Good find Jimmy.

    My Jebus our coaches are complete fucking morons. It pains me that we didn't fire that asshat this year. PAINS ME!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Our fearless leader must be running out of material. Kinda bored with all this, ready for the season to start. With all these ex head coaches on the Bears staff now, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with so much anti-matter on the same team. Supernova or Black Hole, take your pick.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Our fearless leader must be running out of material. Kinda bored with all this, ready for the season to start. With all these ex head coaches on the Bears staff now, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with so much anti-matter on the same team. Supernova or Black Hole, take your pick.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    This is great news in my opinion. Hester indicated that he would like to return more kicks...even if it means less time at receiver. Um, yes please! I actually think Devin did alright this season at receiver. Was he a number 1? No, of course not, but it wasn't his fault the team decided it had to give him that label because they were too afraid to pay him for being a return specialist. I think he would be well served returning to his days as the 'skunk'.

    "I know what I'm best at," Hester said. "The return game is my bread and butter, so if I had to cut back on receiving and go back to returns, that's something I would love to do."

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bears-hester-would-like-bigger-kick-return-role.html

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    This is great news in my opinion. Hester indicated that he would like to return more kicks...even if it means less time at receiver. Um, yes please! I actually think Devin did alright this season at receiver. Was he a number 1? No, of course not, but it wasn't his fault the team decided it had to give him that label because they were too afraid to pay him for being a return specialist. I think he would be well served returning to his days as the 'skunk'.

    "I know what I'm best at," Hester said. "The return game is my bread and butter, so if I had to cut back on receiving and go back to returns, that's something I would love to do."

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bears-hester-would-like-bigger-kick-return-role.html

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Great news! Let skunk be skunk damnit. This might be an area where it will help having Martz. He won't be afraid to tell management that Devin is not a number one receiver!

    He could be our Az-Hakim from the Rams days. Great special teamer, who was used in spots with the pass game.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Good find, here is the tribune version: http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bears-hester-would-like-bigger-kick-return-role.html
    Maybe Hester isn't as dumb as he seems. This is an obvious move to make. He is below average as a WR, and lacks the smarts to make it in Martz's system. I mean he hasn't picked up Turners offense in 4 years.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Good find, here is the tribune version: http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bears-hester-would-like-bigger-kick-return-role.html
    Maybe Hester isn't as dumb as he seems. This is an obvious move to make. He is below average as a WR, and lacks the smarts to make it in Martz's system. I mean he hasn't picked up Turners offense in 4 years.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Good find, here is the tribune version: http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/02/bears-hester-would-like-bigger-kick-return-role.html
    Maybe Hester isn't as dumb as he seems. This is an obvious move to make. He is below average as a WR, and lacks the smarts to make it in Martz's system. I mean he hasn't picked up Turners offense in 4 years.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    WHY??? I ask this to everyone here at the blog...I know I am no genius but damn it...common sense tells you that he was one of our most explosive offensive weapon... yet we do the FU@!$#@!$NG H/Experiment and this is what we got..bubkes to show for it.

    Are the McCheapskys not wanting to pay for a WR and a KR...I don't know anybody an answer???? I just sit here and shake my head in amazement.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to. Now I ask you, do you want a #1 receiver who has publicly expressed that he doesn't like the position !?

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to. Now I ask you, do you want a number one receiver who has publicly expressed that he doesn't like the position !?

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to. Now I ask you, do you want a number one receiver who has publicly expressed that he doesn't like the position !?

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to ? Wow. Now I ask you, do you want a number one receiver who has publicly expressed that he doesn't like the position and would rather be mostly returning !?

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to ? Wow. Now I ask you, do you want a number one receiver who has publicly expressed that he doesn't like the position and would rather be mostly returning !?

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to ? Wow.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to ? Wow.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Agreed. And wow. He's basically saying he can't play receiver. Or at least he doesn't want to ? Wow.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Our fearless leader must be running out of material. Kinda bored with all this, ready for the season to start. With all these ex head coaches on the Bears staff now, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with so much anti-matter on the same team. Supernova or Black Hole, take your pick.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Our fearless leader must be running out of material. Kinda bored with all this, ready for the season to start. With all these ex head coaches on the Bears staff now, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens with so much anti-matter on the same team. Supernova or Black Hole, take your pick.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Devin gets it. How dumb are our coaches? Martz is probably going to need at least 1 new WR to run his route perfect scheme so get #23 back to terrorizing the league.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    That QB coach would basically just hold Martz's gigantic playcalling sheet. I wouldn't worry about it. Martz's offense CAN be effective, but Greg Olsen WILL disappear,unless they flex him out all the time, and he loses 20 lbs and plays wideout. The big issue is, if you don't have burners on the outside (Holt, Bruce), the whole scheme falls apart. If the safeties don't have to stay back, the short passing game to the RB doesn't work.

    The scheme does eliminate sight-adjustments on routes though... and after watching Johnny Knox break off routes the wrong way about 15 times last year (good for at least 3 Cutler picks), maybe that's not a bad thing. The only X-factor, is going to be Jay's running ability. I don't think that Martz has ever had a QB who is as mobile as Jay. It should be fun to watch. Though I still hate Martz. He's a weird lumpy guy. I like my coaches either rail skinny, or to look like walruses (Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Rex Ryan + mustache). Nothing in between.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    That QB coach would basically just hold Martz's gigantic playcalling sheet. I wouldn't worry about it. Martz's offense CAN be effective, but Greg Olsen WILL disappear,unless they flex him out all the time, and he loses 20 lbs and plays wideout. The big issue is, if you don't have burners on the outside (Holt, Bruce), the whole scheme falls apart. If the safeties don't have to stay back, the short passing game to the RB doesn't work.

    The scheme does eliminate sight-adjustments on routes though... and after watching Johnny Knox break off routes the wrong way about 15 times last year (good for at least 3 Cutler picks), maybe that's not a bad thing. The only X-factor, is going to be Jay's running ability. I don't think that Martz has ever had a QB who is as mobile as Jay. It should be fun to watch. Though I still hate Martz. He's a weird lumpy guy. I like my coaches either rail skinny, or to look like walruses (Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Rex Ryan + mustache). Nothing in between.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    That QB coach would basically just hold Martz's gigantic playcalling sheet. I wouldn't worry about it. Martz's offense CAN be effective, but Greg Olsen WILL disappear,unless they flex him out all the time, and he loses 20 lbs and plays wideout. The big issue is, if you don't have burners on the outside (Holt, Bruce), the whole scheme falls apart. If the safeties don't have to stay back, the short passing game to the RB doesn't work.

    The scheme does eliminate sight-adjustments on routes though... and after watching Johnny Knox break off routes the wrong way about 15 times last year (good for at least 3 Cutler picks), maybe that's not a bad thing. The only X-factor, is going to be Jay's running ability. I don't think that Martz has ever had a QB who is as mobile as Jay. It should be fun to watch. Though I still hate Martz. He's a weird lumpy guy. I like my coaches either rail skinny, or to look like walruses (Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Rex Ryan + mustache). Nothing in between.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    That QB coach would basically just hold Martz's gigantic playcalling sheet. I wouldn't worry about it. Martz's offense CAN be effective, but Greg Olsen WILL disappear,unless they flex him out all the time, and he loses 20 lbs and plays wideout. The big issue is, if you don't have burners on the outside (Holt, Bruce), the whole scheme falls apart. If the safeties don't have to stay back, the short passing game to the RB doesn't work.

    The scheme does eliminate sight-adjustments on routes though... and after watching Johnny Knox break off routes the wrong way about 15 times last year (good for at least 3 Cutler picks), maybe that's not a bad thing. The only X-factor, is going to be Jay's running ability. I don't think that Martz has ever had a QB who is as mobile as Jay. It should be fun to watch. Though I still hate Martz. He's a weird lumpy guy. I like my coaches either rail skinny, or to look like walruses (Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Rex Ryan + mustache). Nothing in between.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    That QB coach would basically just hold Martz's gigantic playcalling sheet. I wouldn't worry about it. Martz's offense CAN be effective, but Greg Olsen WILL disappear,unless they flex him out all the time, and he loses 20 lbs and plays wideout. The big issue is, if you don't have burners on the outside (Holt, Bruce), the whole scheme falls apart. If the safeties don't have to stay back, the short passing game to the RB doesn't work.

    The scheme does eliminate sight-adjustments on routes though... and after watching Johnny Knox break off routes the wrong way about 15 times last year (good for at least 3 Cutler picks), maybe that's not a bad thing. The only X-factor, is going to be Jay's running ability. I don't think that Martz has ever had a QB who is as mobile as Jay. It should be fun to watch. Though I still hate Martz. He's a weird lumpy guy. I like my coaches either rail skinny, or to look like walruses (Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Rex Ryan + mustache). Nothing in between.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    That QB coach would basically just hold Martz's gigantic playcalling sheet. I wouldn't worry about it. Martz's offense CAN be effective, but Greg Olsen WILL disappear,unless they flex him out all the time, and he loses 20 lbs and plays wideout. The big issue is, if you don't have burners on the outside (Holt, Bruce), the whole scheme falls apart. If the safeties don't have to stay back, the short passing game to the RB doesn't work.

    The scheme does eliminate sight-adjustments on routes though... and after watching Johnny Knox break off routes the wrong way about 15 times last year (good for at least 3 Cutler picks), maybe that's not a bad thing. The only X-factor, is going to be Jay's running ability. I don't think that Martz has ever had a QB who is as mobile as Jay. It should be fun to watch. Though I still hate Martz. He's a weird lumpy guy. I like my coaches either rail skinny, or to look like walruses (Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, Rex Ryan + mustache). Nothing in between.

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Greatest Bears. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2031108,CST-SPT-bestbears05.article

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    Greatest Bears. http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/2031108,CST-SPT-bestbears05.article

  • In reply to JimmyNewport:

    testing

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    On Frig..

    http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/01/the-story-behind-refrigerator-perrys-recovery/

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Duh. Sorry lobo, didn't look down.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Seems like a much better cause than that ridiculous billboard.

    http://fridgefund.homestead.com/News-on-the-Fridge.html

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Also if you read deeper..Da Coach is taking care of it.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Read sometime ago about the vets of this game are getting screwed ..BIG TIME!!! I know that Ditka has been working either on a Board for this or is deeply involved. Just reminds me how we also take care of our Vets in the service. We want you to do your job but when you comeback your on your own. I guess SOL.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Thanks for that info, Lobo.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Without a doubt our needs are 1. RG and 2. FS AL, but I think we all agree that if butter Harris can't return to past form we need someone up front who can harass the opposing QB into making our defensive backfield better. Without pressure up front, you saw what happened this year. But I think we're on the same page.

    Oh, and most welcome for the list, I thought you guys might enjoy that.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Isn't Garza the RG? He is at least not entirely incompetent. You must have meant LG?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Anyone here interested in an angry, disgruntled, but effective, Joey Porter: http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2010/02/02/joey-porter-wants-out-of-miami/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Your linebacking corps can never look TOO legendary ...
    Love the superbowl top ten ... Fred Williamson ... The Hammer ... is a BLACK explosion ! Max McGee ... I like a man who doesn't let a super bowl get in the way of your average night out : "According to football lore, McGee had quite a night before Super Bowl I -- he allegedly attended a brothel, an opium den and ended up in jail briefly." He was always good for a few yards playing Super Sunday on the C64 ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks for the Urlacher info, Lobo. I recall that he was, in fact, a hybrid at New Mexico and I recall then Sporting News Radio weekend host, Peter Brown ragging on the Bears when they picked him saying "Where's he gonna play? Is a linebacker? Is he a safety?"

    I always thought Peter Brown needed a protologist on a retainer.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So, what's more depressing?

    A. The Bears' ownership.

    or

    B. The NFL labor situation and the prospect of eiether NO NFL or REPLACEMENT PLAYERS NFL in 2011?

    And remember, death is not an option.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al..All three end in playing "Taps" on the Bugle.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Good topic Al. So I have a question that maybe one/some of you guys can answer. Lobo, maybe it's in your article, but I haven't had time to read it just yet.

    My question is

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...not sure how the turds on this roll..

    1.Players comeback and the slates clean?
    2.Players come back with a 20% reduction in pay.
    3.You know the "open books" are not going to work for the McF!@#$sy's.
    4.Shit shall I go on? I myself am getting a "spin dry" from it.

    Unless they all realize there is more than enough money and it best to work it out...to make more money.. this could get ungly...sheite!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry about that Bub Screen ref Lobo. Just the thought of it has me feeling ill-ish. I'll switch it to D with my belief Lovehammer brings in Al Williams right after the Colts destroy the Saints on Sunday. Williams is a comer and we're in need of an inspirational leader with that group. Williams makes something out of nothing as he's brought Colts DB's to another level without any high draft choices. Nobody however, much less the Saints, will have any answers for Manning. Freeney's loss not a big concern either. Too much Peyton. He'll have a field day picking apart Jonny Vilma and his crew.Think he'll torch em for 45 points before he gets lifted late in game. Final score 45-23. Not even close. Next!

  • In reply to tkfay:

    No way Jersey. Go Saints!

  • In reply to tkfay:

    The Lovehammer, I like it ...

  • In reply to tkfay:

    The Lovehammer, I like it ...

    BTW - Think Freeney's not playing ? Tom Brady.

  • In reply to tkfay:

    The Lovehammer, I like it ...

    BTW - Think Freeney's not playing ? Tom Brady.

  • In reply to tkfay:

    The Lovehammer, I like it ...

    BTW - Think Freeney's not playing ? Tom Brady.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Also, what an honor to have two one this list... never mind our beoved Jimmy Mac at #1: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/lists/Top_10_Super_Bowl_Personalities#sport=NFL&photo=9155310

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..lol..LOVE IT!!!

    You know the best thing about that team. Is the " I don't give a shit about what your saying coach, just let me get on the field and show you what I can do." If these Pu$!@ies on this team had half the heart 85' had... well you know.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I was just on the treadmill and they're starting to show precursors to the Boost Mobile Shuffle Super Bowl Ad. Showed Iron Mike and Jimmy Mac... freakin' hilarious stuff, can't wait!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Great point, Shady. Jerry can't come out and say "We need all kjinds of help on the O-Line" without admitting "Boy, did I drop the ball last year!"

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Exactly.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I remember him being asked a direct question about his hiring of Pace and Omiyale and their contribution this year. He started having a go at the defense ! He said they hadn't pulled their weight either ! Ha !

  • In reply to gpldan:

    MB..looking deeper..it does not. the five are all about speed from the slot,WR's and Backfield..and yes a tight end. The concern as "Blogfather" mentioned is "Were are all set"..

    If you look back the down fall of the "Greatest Show of Smurfs" ...sorry just had too! Was the oportunity of a seven drop steps and throwing to a point location. THIS MEANS WE NEED A LINE TO PROTECT OUR QUATERBACK!!!! I am not sure it we "WE Are All Set" includes that conclusion.

    Also I think it has been SCREAMEDD BEFORE!!! We need a D-Line to stop the other team from scoring more than us.

    It's is amazing that we just keep going after wanting to race in the Indy 500 and the flash and we look good but then you look under the hood and it's a FU@!$#!@$ING Three Legged Squirrel (his name is tripod) on a wheel driving this machine.WE NEED A COMPLETE LINE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL. But is digress..oh thats' right "Were All Set"

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Al - check the main page

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Hester must either be traded or put back as returner only. There is no way that idiot is going to be able to understand this offense. It's way beyond a 3rd grade reading level.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    "Our Roster is pretty well set" words from "Dead Man Walking"

    The 2010 season will be known as "The Blame Game" and the sorry thing about it, they wont even have to call each other out on it.
    Everyone from the fans in the stands, fans watching on T.V. and all in the N.F.L. will know who's at fault.. All the above!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Hester, Olsen, Hillenmeyer. There's some picks in there, they wouldn't be missed. Williams can play MLB and is a million times better than Hillenmeyer.

  • What Max said!

  • Manning fellatio picks up speed:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ross_tucker/02/02/peyton.manning/

  • fair enough Murph, fair enough.

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