Audibles From the Long Snapper

So as most of you know, this is the time of year where I'm least prolific on the site.  I just hate wasting space trying to guess what free agents will be available and what trades are possibilities.  That coupled with the uncertainty of the CBA means I'll just respond to things as they actually play out.  

The End of the Combine?
I've long argued that the scouting combine is one of the more pointless events of the football season.  It is an event promoting the value of physical tools that often don't translate to the football field.  It leads to organizations salivating over the physical strength of Robert Gallery and sprinter's speed of Troy Williamson.  A source told Peter King:

"These guys go out and watch players all fall, then we all watch the tape of all these guys, and we see what kind of football players they are.  That's scouting.  Who plays good football in pads?  That's scouting.  Now we need the combine for the medical evaluations and the personal baggage stuff.  But don't come in after the combine and tell me you want to change some guy and move him way up because he ran faster than you thought he would.  That's where you get in trouble, and that's why our draft board is pretty well set.''

The truth is that the combine is a product of the over-evaluation that is beginning to plague the NFL.  It's nice to see teams coming out and saying that how a guy plays on Saturday might actually give a hint to how he'll play on Sunday.


Good News / Bad News
I'm not going to go crazy about the Chicago Bears raising ticket prices.  Nobody likes paying more for anything so we get it.  And the Bears haven't made the playoffs in three years so it seems like the wrong off-season to make this kind of move.  In the same article, however, Ted Phillips responds to the Julius Peppers rumors:

"The budget we have set will be very competitive," Phillips said. "Assuming we can win the battles we want to win, I think we will be able to improve our team in free agency."

I'd like to see the Bears stock up the roster for a 2010 run.  That's what I'd like to see.

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  • Hey Jeff,I read that as well. On one hand it gets me excited and hopeful we will get one of the top free agents. But then on the other hand history shows otherwise(except Cutler). So is this a tease to keep us fans hoping,or will the front office finally get aggressive & do whats right to make us winners again. I agree with you on the Combine,its seems more of a fashion show, as To what will translate on the football fields on Sunday in a real game. The Big prize would be Peppers, but I would settle for Aaron Kampman. He doesnt like G-Bays new defense,and wants to go back to a 4-3 where he is much more valuable & talented. I have heard talk of Antrel Rolle, but I can guarantee he will get tagged,they wont let him walk away.

  • What do you guys think about trying to bring in Peppers? To me, I don't see it ending well. That is, if we sign him. We have enough guys on the current roster that we have discussed ad nausium. Players who achieved a big 'pay day' and switched into cruise control. He has had a great career. I just see him coming in, sitting on his stack of cash and never playing up to the level we have seen in the past. Pass on Peppers. Whatchu think? Bears for life.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    What's up Matty. Sick of this rain yet man?

    He's another T "butter" harris in waiting, the ROI just won't be there for the price he'll command. Get Kampman instead. The guy is a super hard worker and a stud... and it would always be fun to have him on our side for the 2 GB games.

  • In reply to MatthewIsMyForte:

    Trade: Lovie Smith for Julius Peppers, bring in Cowher, switch to 3-4. Good times. Keep Mark Anderson. Convert him to OLB. Shoot Hillenmeyer in face.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    That's the shit I'm talkin' about !

  • I dont see the Bears out bidding for Peppers. I really feel that the Bears will pursue and sign Aaron Kampman,it seems like a good fit for both sides. That leaves money to strengthen other positions like free safety,o-line,d-line and cornerback. I have a strong feeling the Bears will package Greg Olsen somehow to aquire a 2nd round pick in this years draft. With Martz here, Olsen doesnt seem to fit his scheme & still has trade value. Martz needs t.e's to block & protect their Q.B. Olsen just isnt a good blocker,he has tried but just isnt good at it.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I'd like to see Kampman in a Bears uni and back in a 4-3 Defense.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Patties put the Franchise tag on Wilfork.

    I agree the Mel Kiper hype gets to be too much. The NFL is filled with Lawrence Phillips wannbes, guys who get all Pac Man and bust a plate over some schmuck's head at the late night Denny's. I think rolling up on a guy after midnight at Denny's should automatically ban you from the NFL.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Fair comments Jeff. I do think the combine has value, just not the kind of value that could live up the the past hype. I think the combine definitely gives some players an opportunity to get some exposure that otherwise they may not have in situations where maybe they were injured their last year in college or just didn't get the opportunities the name brand players did. Johnny Knox comes to mind.

    As far as Phillips indicating the desire of the front office to actually get something done in FA this year, who knows how to accurately translate what he said. Allot is riding on Cutty so ya never know. They may actually make some worthwhile signing's this year but don't expect lightning to come out of anybody's arse,(Referring to the front office and the law of probabilities)as Cutty was the lightening bolt that shot out of DePaul's arse and we saw what that got him.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Well come to the world of "The Shell Game"
    replace the ball with Free Agency and you have the Bears Management Philosophy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzEvcS01Cl0

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Intresting read that just came out:

    http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b2ZBt

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Lobo, if the Bears sign Rolle and Peppers that would mean Lighting doesn't just strike twice but thrice. Damn that would hurt.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    yeah..... but it would be a great hurt!!

    still not sure about peppers though.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    At this point I would not pay huge money for Peppers. 1. He is getting a little long in the tooth to be worth a long enough contract to get the money out of him. 2. How did the Redskins do after paying all that money to Haynesworth? Was their line transformed? They got freakin worse and you didn't hear his name all year.

    I would go with Kampman, Rolle, and spend some good money on a safety. But if he has money to blow, hell get Peppers.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    I agree and I dont see the Bears getting into a bidding war for Peppers,they will look into it,but will not over-pay,which is wise,but someone will. I do see them making a serious push for Kampman,he fits in well with our 4-3 scheme. He wants to play in the 4-3 again,and is not happy with G-bays new defensive scheme. I know that Rolle sounds good,but he WILL get tagged,Arizona will NOT let him walk away,No chance! It would be huge if we could snag Kampman,he will be ready by training camp. He is a typical hard working blue collar guy. Alex Brown recently lobbied for us to sign him. He gives his all on Every play & is relentless. We Have to get pressure from our front four,so we dont have to blitz so much & it will take pressure off our secondary. Speaking of secondary,we need to find a free safety somewhere as well.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I agree on not over-paying for Pay-for-play Peppers. You can pressure the Qb from anywhere (something D Manning excels at), but ewe need that Safety. And Rolle is due $4M bonus & $12 M salary this year ? Wow. I thought safeties were the lowest paid dudes. With Wilson on their team, Rolle walks.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Oh Blogfather I love your line:
    "I'd like to see the Bears stock up the roster for a 2010 run. That's what I'd like to see. "

    here is what I think maybe the answer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV-p51fvYLc&feature=PlayList&p=F892F80B4AB4EDEE&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=32

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    this is also the sad state of affairs we are in with this franchise.. Dear Football Spirits(GHS)...Here are cries..deliver us!!

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    by the way it's our not are..Doh'

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    #1, what are you basing your "strong feeling" on about trading Olsen? I'd be shocked if they traded him. Martz could easily be one and done here and JA doesn't like to part with draft picks.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I'm behind that one all the way to the end, #1BF. And to be honest, I don't believe he *has* tried, he just physically shies away from contact. We really need a second rounder, it would make such a big difference - as long as we don't draft a no-name safety. I don't like the noises I'm hearing about defensive ends in the draft though. If they draft a DE in the third round then somebody needs to storm Halas hall with a hit squad. We have 19 defensive linemen - develop a few, stop drafting losers.

    A nice big guard would be a whole lot more useful to us than a show pony being kept around because of his first round rosette.

    Nice to hear Philips intends on us getting involved in FA though. Large black man at wideout for me please ....

  • Murph, don't forget about the Marrinelli factor. RM will have Peppers proposing to him before he's done.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    That was supposed to said with a snicker. I like Kampman, Rolle. Both Kampman and Rolle will turn allot of heads so I would be happy if we get either one.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I was going to ask what the Marrinelli factor was Trac... is that when we pay a lot for a guy who's supposed to be the next coming, and he ends up doing fuck-all for us? That's what that is right?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    You got it MB. So far I haven't seen jack when it comes to our D being influenced positively by this guy.

  • Suh Math

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndamukong_Suh

    EQUALS

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Emtman

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Are you prognosticating that he'll blow out his knee? That's fucked up.

    The second a player blows out their knee they are dead to the NFL.

    I wonder if there is a list somewhere of people who have blown out their knees within the first year or two and gone on to enter the hall of fame. I bet the list is short. Maybe I'm wrong though...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I wish we could draft Suh as well gp. Best not to mention such things, you never know he might become a Bear at some point in time.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    They are projecting Suh as a 1st,2nd or 3rd pick in the first round. We dont have a chance to secure his services.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    BF, Im talking about trade or FA down the road.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Oh, he's the first pick overall, no question - I can't believe any fool would take McCoy over Suh. And if they do, the Bears are FUBAR - he'll go to the Lions if the Rams do something silly like draft a QB. I'd sell my mother for the first pick in this year's draft.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    There's always a chance. We have the ammo to get that first pick through trading players. But how much would we be prepared to give ? For Mr. Suh, I would say goodbye to Hester/Olsen in a heartbeat and listen seriously to the third part required to do the deal. Anything Hester/Olsen currently do, can be done better by someone else who can actually play their position competently in the NFL. If they're not producing for us then why are they on the team ? Mr. Suh needs to be a Chicago Bear.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Good to see Peterman signed. Angulo, step one to removing Olsen ?

    Bears re-sign Peterman, add Angulo to TE mix
    February 22, 2010 5:23 PM | 6 Comments
    By Brad Biggs

    The Bears signed wide receiver Eric Peterman and tight end Richard Angulo to one-year contracts Monday.

    Peterman, an undrafted free agent from Northwestern, spent training camp with the team last summer and had a brief stint on the practice squad at the end of the season.

    Angulo, 6-foot-8 and 272 pounds, also has been with the team before as a member of the practice squad in 2006. He has spent time with St. Louis, Minnesota and Jacksonville. So he has played for offensive line coach Mike Tice with the Jaguars and under offensive coordinator Mike Martz with the Rams.

    Tight end is going to be an interesting position to watch for the Bears, considering how Martz has deployed his tight ends in the past.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    trying to come up with a Xbox Live Gamertag that relates to my Bears... I was thinking MidwayMonsters54 or DaBEARS 54 or maybe BEARDOWN54...any suggestions or what do you guys think?

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    DecaturStaleys - old skool and fucking hardcore Fresno

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB........oooohhhhhhhhh..Decatur Staleys.. I likey!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    my gamertag is mikebdot34

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    10-1: Angelo trades our very first pick in the draft for more picks.

    Anyone know if a 3rd rounder this year is worth a 1st or 2nd rounder next year? I'm not sure where to find a future value chart...

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Mikebdot..Blasphemy!!lol don't give JA(JackAss) any ideas..I am sure he is trolling the blogs for ideas of how to be a GM in the NFL since he's a FU!@$#NG moron.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Lower picks this year are more valuable to us than high picks next year, even more than the future value charts will tell you. Think of it like this: JA is not very good at using high picks to get great players but he is actually fairly strong at using low picks to get a strong supporting cast.

    Think of it like this, if we can get another Earl Bennet or Johnny Knox type in the fourth round this year, I'd take that over the risk of picking a Cedric Benson or Greg Olson the following year. Maybe its a safer plan to pick a DE in the first round of 2011, but I still think JA could screw it up by picking a linebacker or something.

    Maybe JA wouldn't be around to use that first rounder in 2011, but that doesn't mean the next guy is going to do any better.

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    1) No apology necessary for your frequency of posts at THIS time of year, Blogfather.

    2) Murph IS correct. The Bears signed Thomas Jones as an unrestricted Free Agent from Tampa Bay in March of 2004.

    3) I remain unconvinced that signing Julius Peppers is not akin to cloning Tommie Harris, at least attitude-wise. I'd rather spend the money on the offensive line.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    A little off the subject,but Congratulations for the U.S.A Hockey teams win over Canada in the Olympics,YEAH,great job!!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    should we pursue LT and drop Wolfe and/or AP?
    save money....sign Kampmann and say fuck JP
    HELL YEA SIGN ANTREL ROLLE!!!!! then the problems on the defense are not so glaring

    offensive line....yea that needs to get sorted out fast.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FQ...
    bye..bye Wolfe..bye..bye..AP
    yes...kampmann
    no...peppers
    yes...Rolle

    AGAIN WE NEED TWO GUARDS TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    agree.

    btw, I love the rolle story, how can it possibly be bad to have a fucking genius on your team? And smart people rule.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry, was confusing my Rolles (get it?): http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/160390-rolles-scholarly-success-could-hurt-draft-status?eref=sihp

    Let's sign this kid too

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jim_trotter/02/22/tomlinson/index.html?eref=sihp

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..Cheatachek will get him.. mark my words..

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I hope someone who has a shot at the title next year lobo, guy's a stud and a gentleman... he deserves it.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB..agree 100% I have seen nothing but class from LT and yes... I hope he finds a winner! not sure he works with the Bears..how are you seeing him fit with us?

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    I don't lobo. We need someone young who's coming up I think. He'd be a great vet to have, but we're in such flux not sure it makes sense.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    LT still thinks he's a #1 all-day carrier and will expect the dollars. We need a big banger in the backfield. There are some amazing FAs at the position but we won't get near them in bidding wars, which is what this year is about. Cheter Taylor hasn't got too many miles on the clock. Nor Has Lendale White. Le Ron McClain, Mike Bell, Leonard Weaver ? Tough, but one or more could walk. Not too fond of RBS that were great but have a question mark over them now. Let Snyder overpay for LT.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Bring in two beast's at guard and a rolling thunder FB who runs over people and steps on their necks and smiles as he looks back at them on the turf.

    Those Gaurds will run trap plays that both Double Duece and a real FB(NOT MCKIE) can run a semi's through!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP..he's going in 1st round or early 2nd and we have none of that in our holster. I wish... but unless we trade for higher ground I think we are eating the floaters in this toilet bowl...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    A monster, Mr. Emtman. Having had a ruptured disc myself, I don't know how he could have played with that kind of damage. Wasn't smart. I'll bet he didn't have the option of sitting either. His whole life must have been sponsored by cortisone

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Did you get one of those fucking enormous shots in your neck Irish? Ho-ly-sheite muslim... those things are a fucking nightmarish. The doc moves it all around for about 15 minutes. Jebus, i had one in my shoulder my sophmore yr in HS. suuuuucked.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    In the ass, and they broke the needle. Try it when the fucker is in your lower back and pinching off your sciatic nerve. When I listen to women go on about childbirth pain and men I just shake my head. How pain receptors going off in your crotch compares to every nerve in your back going on fire I don't know. I'll take firing a bowling ball out of my chute over a back spasm any day of the week.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    No thanks.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Guys all joking aside but I gotta tell you that all this Love for Olsen is nuts. Football 101: Tight ends block 1st. Whats so hard about that? Is it so hard to admit that we blew a 1st round draft pick on this guy. If the Bears had of drafted him in the 3rd or 4th round this guy would be the backup to the backup. Jeez.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Angelo drafted him first round cos they went to the same U. It's sick. I haven't even checked out who we could have drafted, no point.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I just hope the Bears sign Aaron Kampman & Darren Sharper if he doesnt get tagged. That would greatly improve our defense straight up. I am confident that Martz and the young talent he has here,will surprise alot of people and excell. I expect more changes to come though!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    #1BF..all are saying he is not going to be tagged but they are going to find a way to keep him.. and knowing the morons at HH they won't anti-up..never have never will.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    we've got to make a move with olsen now. Trade his ass and get us into the first two rounds baby!

  • I hate Lendale White, that guy has a real bad attitude...

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    They're all spoilt babies - except Micahel Oher, my new hero.

  • im happy we have Martz as our Offensive Co. I mean the stuff he said so far, has been really been impressive and he actually sounds like us in a way, Hester wont be his number 1, Cutlers mechanics are not right,etc... I mean this guy has said some of the best shit ive heard come from any Bear coach in a long time. I still think Lovie smith should go fuck himself, but Martz is ok in my book

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I agree, but the proof is in the puddin' Fresno. We'll have to see if is was all just smoke or if he's the real deal

  • In reply to Grizzly559:

    I think trading Olsen for a 2nd rounder makes a lot of sense if you can get a solid guard in the deal. Trade a weak blocking link for a potentially strong one would really upgrade the offense and we just have to rely on Cutler to compensate for our lack of a playmaking reciever.

    But... early draft projections are showing a strong emphasis on blocking (which they always overemphasize) so there may not be a great value at Guard if Olsen garners something, say, in the high 40s or low 50s.

    Trading Olsen for a free safety or other DB could be worth considering (and would still avoid the rush to draft at the line of scrimmage), but it would still need to be the right player at that spot.

    Trading Hester is less desireable in my mind. I favor keeping him and rolling him back to special teams. Trading Manning next year as a return man would probably get a better value, even if the ultimate payout is less. What are the rules with no CBA if Manning is a restricted free agent this year? Could we trade him now? Maybe Manning plus a 4th rounder would get us into Round 2?

  • In reply to mottystone:

    Yes, a useful guard is better than a non-blocking TE - but does Lovie favor putting his hand up and admitting he got it very wrong - Devin's receiver experiment didn't work out and he's going back to ST ... ? Hester hurts us at WR - he can't/doesn't block and he's lazy - so what's the point in paying him to take up a roster spot. What does he do for us ? Not going to happen, Lovie doesn't do mistakes and admissions of guilt. Which makes trading Manning a moot point - we need him on ST, and he's our nickel back by the way.... every one is keen to off-load players without suggesting where their replacements come from ... thin air ?

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Right on Irish. You have to remember though that some of our roster spots will do just fine if we trade players and don't replace those spots. I dont believe we would suffer at the KR game or TE if we were to trade Hester and Olsen. If trading those players resulted in new starters at any other position I would be happy.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    My fantasies require the coaching staff to do what I tell them. It would be an aggressive move for the Bears to trade Olsen, Manning and say a #4 in exchange for a combination of draft picks and players that get us an above average guard and an above average free safety. Boosting the FS position will take the pressure off at nickel back if we have to take a step down from Manning there. Nickel is also a much easier position to fill later in the draft than FS or Guard.

  • In reply to mottystone:

    I like your line of thinking NBT. You all know that I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What's with all the trade talk? Trades are rare in the NFL. Not to mention, our mgmt rates our players way higher than every other team's mgmt. I know it's fun to kick around trade possibilities but realistically, it's not going to happen.

    I've read Hester's contract is structured more along the lines of high pay for high production. If you think Cribbs isn't hounding Holmgren for major cash right now, you're kidding yourself. He's a stud with very unique talents. He's in for a major payday.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm an Olsen fan. I think the kid can play hard and is a tough s. o. b. But he is a bad blocker and in the Martz system a TE must be a good blocker. How many times have you seen edge rushers blow past Olsen like he wasn't even there? But Olsen scores points. He caught 8 TDs in 2009.

    Look at how Olsen stacks up against Pro Bowlers:
    Clark 10 TDs, Gates 8, Miller 6, Davis 13, Witten 2.

    He can be a great player.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    In 8 games he had 3 catches or less, Ghost. That ain't doin' it if you're a 'receiving tight end' who doesn't block.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Irish...Trac...trade Olsen for any of these guys:

    Stephen Neal, New England Patriots
    Chester Pitts, Houston Texans
    Kevin Mawae. Tenn. Titans

    and possible future pick maybe 2ndR(doubtful) but my guess is more like 3rd or 4th.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    why trade for Mawae when he's going to be an UFA anyway? that's dumb

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Attention Greg Olsen detractors!

    From Today's Trib:

    "On Monday, the Bears signed tight end Richard Angulo and wide receiver Eric Peterman to one-year contracts. Angulo spent time on the Bears practice squad in 2006. More importantly, he was drafted out of Western New Mexico by Mike Martz for the St. Louis Rams in 2003. He also played under new line coach Mike Tice in Minnesota and Jacksonville. The 6-8, 272-pounder was out of the NFL last season but is considered a SOLID BLOCKER. "

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    You don't think they'd get rid of Olsen, do you? He's maybe worth a 3rd Round pick. It doesn't make sense to have 4 Tight Ends on the roster, and it sounds like their pretty high on Angulo.

    A few weeks ago I think Martz or somebody said that if a Tight End can't block you might as well make him a Wide Receiver. Why not? Olsen performs great split out wide. A good number of his touchdowns were when he was split out. He's got very good hands and he's definately a mismatch.

    I just hope Angulo doesn't mean they're getting rid of Desmond Clark, currently my favorite Bear.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    gotta keep Dez Clark. I love that guy. He has always stepped up for the Bears. I love seeing him catch passes in the seam.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Really Ghost? Olsen as WR? Uhhhhhgggggg...

    I'm with both of you about Dez. Love him, such a solid player, with a great attitude.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Why not Olsen at Wide Receiver? He is a great pass-catcher. Honed properly he could be a serious weapon as a receiver.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Because of 7 other reasons. We have 7 WR's currently on the roster. Somebody's going to have to go if the Bears move Olsen to WR.

    Last year we had 6 Wr's on the roster and pretty much didn't dress 2 of them all year. I don't see having more than that this year even with the spread offense.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    One player that I think will definitely be traded this year....Olsen. It makes perfect sense. Even the front office see's his trade potential. Why do you think the Bears home page did a puff piece on him last week?

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Am I the only one who remembers him dropping pass after pass?

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Seems that way Willie

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I should lay off the DMT in that case... But I swear to Tice, Olsen must have more drops than anyone currently on the squad. Granted, he's thrown to more often... Can anyone provide a dropped pass percentage for this guy?

    Plus... he wouldn't dive to save his life.

    Trade him and get me some Suh.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Or maybe Bobby Boucher.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    So we trade Olsen for the 1st pick in the draft? Done!

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Without breaking the bank,which the Bears will NEVER Do. How about signing the lower priced D.E in Kampman,he excelled in a 4-3 & wants to play in it again. He is familiar with the division as well. He is due to be ready to go by training camp. Then go after Sharper at free safety,he knows the division as well. I cant believe I heard the Saints arent tagging him? I mean D.E & Free Safety are the 2 biggest holes here,so lets fix it up!! Let Adrian Peterson walk. How about giving Kahlil Bell a shot alongside Forte. He did show promise at 5.5 yards a carry,when he got a chance he looked good. The Bears save money here. Kevin Jones has 1 more year on his contract have him in the mix as well. Then trade Olsen in a package that can get us a 2nd rd pick. Then we can look at the O-Line. Lets dump,Rashied Davis,Adrian Peterson,no to Ogunleye,maybe Garrett Wolfe & Vasher,Dvoracek. Or use one that is still signed in a package with Olsen(trade). The Bears could dramatically improve the team,without breaking the bank! SO JUST DO IT!!

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Don't ever take side with anyone outside the family again....ever.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjIy4W_21vY

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac..fogedaboutit...

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Sonny Corleone at RB and FS ... Bada Bing ! (biting his knuckles)

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    I know it was you Lovie, you broke my heart......you broke my heart.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    No Lovie, you're not.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYabrQrXt4A&feature=related

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Holy Crap...trac.. how did you get a video in JA's office with LDL and him?..lol

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    TRAC, thats is Lovie Smith. hahha great one!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d816861e5/NFC-North-outlook

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    o wow nevermind my post, i figured they would talk about the Bears

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Man, I wish we had this guy on our team.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSulFZ7XJ1U&feature=related

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I just want the fonz as our coach!

  • In reply to mikebdot:

    Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ...

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac. My Mama said..."He's the Devil" lol

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trac, Adam Sandler? Really? I guess I'm too old. Adam Sandler and Will Ferrell's humor is totally lost on me. If they are the main characters in a movie I avoid it. Nothing against anyone who likes them. Comedy is totally subjective. Either it makes you laugh or it doesn't. Both of those guys remind me of Jerry Lewis. Not good.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Those dudes are seriously hit and miss - Sandler's better when he's serious. Punch drunk love, reign on me (?). But Ferrell was good in Wedding Crashers ....

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    CB, I wish I was joking but I'm serious

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I'm with you on Will Ferrell CB.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Our boy Roy giving props to DeZ Clark

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5KSlQB4O50

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    It was from 3 or 4 years ago, really funny to see how things have changed from a fans perspective.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Ha 2:50 - "I remeber last year when we drafted Greg Olsen ... I was like Noooooo... what the fuck are you doing Jerry Angelo ... ? Dez Clark is MONEY !"

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Def. should get Darren Sharper for safety help and get his last years out of him.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    That's what I seemed to remember too Willie, and then some guy on WCG who whacks off to pictures of Olsen said that he had like 5 dropped passes,less than gates/Clark etc. I don't know if that's true or not. They were probably all on third down, somebody tell me that.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    In terms of production, in 50% of his games this year, Olsen had 3 catches or less - legend.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    I hear you Ghost, but somethings gotta give. You just made an excellent argument why we can trade Olsen and get great value for him. Again, it's 1 an done for the coaching staff next year. I look for some aggressive roster moves.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Trade Olsen and give JA another crack in the draft. Uh, no thanks.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    That's a pretty good idea coach. My problem is not with Olsen per se, but as a TE. If they split him out wide he still needs to block. We've already got Hester out there not blocking. Hester AND Olsen tripping the light fantastic and moonwalking out on the wings will bring on another stroke. Between those two, and Ron Turner and Lovie's antics this year, I can't take many more. I thought Jay would in Disneyland by now.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    For all of you Olsen haters out there (pretty much everyone here except me), here's some food for thought. What do John Mackey, Shannon Sharpe and Kellen Winslow have in common? Great TE's not know for their blocking. They were all on great offensive teams with great QB's, coaches, etc. I'm not saying Olsen's even in the same stratosphere as these guys but let's give him a chance in an offense with a real OC and OL coach.

    Everyone keeps talking about trades. How many trades are there in the NFL? Very few.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    CB, I like to think of myself as an Olsen detractor not a hater and for good reason. We currently have 7 Wr's on the roster which is two more than mist teams. Olsen would make 8. Not gonna happen, period. Inglesias will play next year it be traded.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Most teams*
    Inglesias will play or be traded*

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Olsen's a TE. We have 4 of those after signing one the other day. One of them led the team in TD's last year. Is he a great blocker? No. Could he become a good enough blocker? Possibly. Martz is creative and demands excellence. I'd be shocked if he can't figure out a way to get mismatches for Olsen. Turner had one play (splitting him out wide) that worked once or twice in the beginning of the year. That was it for Turner's creativity. Not to mention Harry Houdini didn't exactly make everyone forget about the Cowgirls OL's in the '90's.

    We will keep 5-6 WR's. Aroma, Bennett, Knox & Hester are locks. All the other guys are fighting over the other 1-2 spots. I'm guessing the preference of keeping draft choices on the roster will be minimized this year because EVERYONE in mgmt is fighting to keep their jobs (except Teddy Bear, after the stadium deal he has a job for life).

    Unless we pick up a big back along the way, the FB position could be eliminated. I would think Kellen would be a great guy to shift into the backfield once in a while. I love the idea of spreading the formation to give Forte some room to run. Obviously he doesn't move the pile or run well in tight spaces. Really looking forward to Martz's O. Maybe our talent is that substandard and he gets Cutler killed. Or maybe our talent is OK (not great) and we have a decent offense. I'm betting on the latter.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I agree Trac,Iglesias will get some time next year, since Martz's system utilizes all the receivers. With the T.E being utilized more for blocking, all the receivers should see more time on the field. If they can catch on,it could be an interesting season Offensively. Sorry I misunderstood your earlier response Trac,my bad.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    I want a TE that puts up better stats then Kellen Winslow. That's old skool.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Mawae's 39 ? Pass. Second rounder for Olsen would do ....

  • Can i just say that lovie smith is a total fucking idiot!

  • Joe, dude... are you serious?

    I won't say anything else, just read the below:
    http://www.chicagobears.com/team/player.asp?player_id=78

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Tillman

  • Peterman's not a bad looking receiver - he'd be more natural than Hester, and possibly Knox/Bennett - we'll see.

    Angulo is my kind of TE. Big.

    Darren Sharper is not being franchised by the Saints. If Angelo has any sand whatsoever, then he's on the phone right now. Let's draft a FS when we have a first or second rounder .... let the pro-bowler look after things in the middle this year ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish..I got to tell you I am a little stunned by no franchise tag on Sharper..I thought it was a done deal. What happened?..and does JA have the conjones to get him. that's the ultimate question.

  • I often wondered "jesus-h-motha-f'in-mary-magda-sh-poop do they even practice this play with a defender"? Or maybe Vasher is on him in practice...that would explain it...

  • Joe, read your post over again. You just stated like 3 reasons why Olsen is great trade bait.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    #1 reason to trade Olsen is that he's a distraction for Cutler ...

  • CanadaBear, you are hardly the lone Greg Olsen supporter.

    IrishSweetness and I have gone toe-to-toe over Olsens value or lack thereof on more than one occassion.

    I merely posted that blurb from today's Trib because, even as a staunch Olsen defender, the Angulo signing is another, clear harbinger that Olsen is a square peg in relation to the round hole that is Mike Martz' offensive philosphy.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I know Albert. I was just feeling like the Lone Ranger today. I'm not putting much stock in the last 2 signings. Someone else posted it earlier. Camp fodder.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    3rd that CB. Olsen is a good player, just takes time to develop into a blocking TE (hell Desmond Clark said this himself....being that he wasn't a great blocker his first 3-4 years in the league). football isn't an instant gratification sport like b-ball.....takes time for development & skill

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Here's an article about Cro: http://rumorsandrants.com/2010/02/antonio-cromartie-has-big-boy-problems.html

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yipes, wouldn't want be him. What a loser.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Boy needs to keep his mouse in the house.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    LMFAO !

  • CanadaBear,I am not an Olsen hater,I actually like him and have supported him. But in Martz's system the t.e's have to block most of the time, Olsen is just not a good blocker. When you look at the amount of pressure Cutler was under,it is no surprise changes will be made,as Cutty will have to do 5-7 step drops. On the business end the Bears can still get a good draft pick for him right now,coupled with another player or pick,maybe can parlay a 2nd rd pick for it,which we could really use. Plus I noticed the Bears signed a huge T.E known for blocking,he is 6-8 275 lbs. So if Olsen departs,we still have 3 great blocking t.e's,that are also capable of catching passes. Des Clark can help the younger guys get acclimated. When I say I have a feeling,I guess I just mean and opinion. Take Care. GO BEARS!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Why do you think Davis is a good blocker? I haven't seen any evidence of it.

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    Can't remember the game Canada, but I saw Davis pancake two guys on one play. Now, maybe he didn't do it again all year, but it just showed he had it. Blocks, catches, 6'7, does it for me. We cannot survive another year of pansy blocking ....

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    I think we should bring in Manning at QB, Johnson at RB, Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson at WRs.

    We would be so awesome if we did that.

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Trac brings up a huge scenario, as far as how the offseason goes. Because they are 1 and done,they have to WIN THIS YEAR. So maybe,just maybe,we will make 1 or 2 aggressive moves and or trades. There are some great options in free agency at D.E,which they know is a Huge weakness,but will they pull the trigger and nail Peppers,or at least Kampman(which I think would fit in here nicely). How about L.T or Chester Taylor?? Sharper if he doesnt get tagged? We have the resources,but does ownership/management have the balls and the desire to WIN!! So us Bear fans are trying to patiently await for fate or reward!! I think it is High Time for some Reward to all the Great Bear fans,Give us a WINNER Damn It!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    #1BF..My previous post were all about 1yr contracts only becuase with the CBA... 2011 is going to be a bust. I am sorry to be gloom and doom on this but I see it..smell it and understand it.. "Nothing personal just good business"..this is what the owners are thinking..

    As for our owners and the minions they are all scrambling to try to cover their asses nothing more. I get the feeling that the JC was a horseshoe that actually landed and they are now scrambling to figure out how to cover it up.
    almost like a cat shitting in the liter box..they think my covering it up the smell will go away..guess what? It doesn't happen the smell lingers and penetrates everything.. and thats waht we have now. With this Management.I would love to see as I have said before:

    Two Beast's that play Gaurd ( possible trade w/Olsen)
    Sharper 1yr con.. with lights out after not sure if we will pay $$$
    Kampman FA
    and it would be great to get C. Taylor again 1yr cont. only
    this would be a great scenerio.

    DEPENDS IF WE HAVE THE BALLS TO DO IT!!

  • In reply to ForeverBears:

    Sharper. Yes. Go get.

  • Globa Warming's a biatch Doc.

  • Jebus Christo, just like JA... wants to bring in another fucking Butter Harris, but for much more money. Brilliant maneuver fuckstick.

    He thinks that big and expensive is the same thing as strategic and smart. Why get a guy who will be much much cheaper and work much much harder, when you can get the Prima Donna who'll take entire parts of the season off

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB.. may answer to JA(JackAss)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJcdd3ofEOQ&feature=PlayList&p=8B75AF390CAD7E2B&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    What smells? Bears Management choices:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bnNTfsKjcw&feature=PlayList&p=8B75AF390CAD7E2B&index=18

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jerry has to do somehting spectacular MB, it has to be spectacular, big, and fucked up somehow ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    I know Irish, fucking kills me.

  • Joseph..I am sure they are all belly bumping each other as we speak..DAMN!!:(
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzDUaIVDUcQ&feature=related

  • I don't know who you are anymore? lol.

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