Ron Turner Fired

The Bears are now looking for an offensive coordinator.

The news that the defensive coordinator will be promoted from within just does not make sense to me.  The system is the issue on that side of the ball and the Bears will be returning to another "company man".  Turner was a terrible play caller (at times) but he's proven that when his quarterback played well, the offensive scheme generates points.

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  • Thank God! Ron is Gone!

  • Don't forget that Marinelli creates "rush men."

  • That is just simply not enough. Firing Ron Turner season will not even begin to solve this organization's problems. Lovie Smith must not be allowed to continue to put this great city and its fans through his "on the job training" as a head coach. He has made countless BOLD decisions to place the responsibility of this team's success or FAILURE squarely upon his shoulders. Yet, it does not appear that he has been held accountable. We "trusted" him when he let Ron Rivera go. We even believed we were "close" after a dismal end to a mediocre season last year. Instead of firing his buddy Bob Babich and actually hiring a defensive coordinator, Lovie allowed him to retain his title and probably his paycheck and "took responsibility" for the faltering defensive unit. The defense has failed this year and that NEEDS to fall on Lovie. I could go on for days recalling his failures as the leader of my beloved Chicago Bears.

    The fans and more importantly, the players have lost faith in this man, his scheme, his ability to evaluate and manage talent and his leadership in times of trouble. He has worn out his welcome in the great city of Chicago. THEY NEED TO FIRE LOVIE SMITH..."and we'll go from there."

  • On a related note, when the defensive personnel played well, the defensive scheme prevented points. How about that.

  • you know, Its curious that Turner got the ax when the O wasn't any worse than the D, other than the O was healthier. Saying that, I either heard or read somewhere that a former Bear was amazed at how accurate he was predicting what play Turner was going to call given the formation and field position.

    I'm troubled that the DC is being hired from within. That being said, I don't think the scheme is the problem. Its the play-calling, execution and players. We're not the only team running the cover 2 in the NFL, and we don't even run that half the time.

  • Really, the biggest indictment of Ron Turner is that it took him 14 weeks to figure out that Jay like to roll out and make passes from outside the pocket. Every fan I know knew this after 1 week...

    While I dont think this will have a huge impact, I welcome someone who is willing to call plays that empahsize our players strengths.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Hear, hear! Ron Turner has totally failed to adapt the offense to his personnel for three years now. Enough is enough.

    Had this happened last year I would have been elated. Now it just feels like "too little, too late".

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Lovie wouldn't let RT run too many rollouts - said it cuts the field in half. Another example of his doing what he thinks is right instead of what works.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    FQD1911 - where did you see that Haugh quote about going outside for a DC?

  • In reply to BillW:

    twitter. the beat writers are writing about stuff until the press conference (i think anyway)

  • In reply to BillW:

    You serious? Marinelli made strides with the D-line? Marcus Harrison was supposed emerge this year. Hasn't happened. Tommie Harris was supposed to be refreshed and come back to life this year. Happened for one or two games. He got ejected for punching someone of the second play of the game. Marinelli needs to get his him in line. Idonije was supposed to be a major factor on the line. Was moved too much from the inside to the outside. Didn't happen. Marinelli was supposed to bring Anderson's performance back to his dominant rookie year after a sophomore slump. Didn't happen. The expensive Brown and Ogunleye were the highlights with six sacks but were way down in tackles. I saw NO FUCKIN RUSH MEN THIS YEAR. To me, the inability to rush the quarterback was the 2009 Chicago Bears biggest downfall.

  • In reply to BillW:

    To me Ron Tuner's firing this year is rooted in the Jay Cutler trade. Remember at the end of last season when Lovie said we were fine at quarterback and then Jerry Angelo started saying they were looking into the position?

    I think Turner has been in the hot seat for awhile, but used Grossman and Kyle as scapegoats. I'm sure he said many times "if only I had a better quarterback that could pass deep I would have a better offense." Well Jerry Angelo got Ron a quarterback and we were horrible this season.

    I'm sure Kyle's comments after he left didn't help matters either.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Yeah, he's the scapegoat... and I don't care. I can finally stop sticking pins in my RT voodoo doll. While the Bears have sucked for three years straight now, RT has sucked since he was conceived. He had games where his plan worked and he looked smart, but he can never adapt to anything. In game he could never adapt when a defense adjusted to his plan, and this year he could not adapt his offense to the addition of Cutler, totally wasting the first season the Bears have had a franchise level QB. I think he could proabably be an average high school special teams coach in Vermont or something, but I have been waiting years for them to rip the hallowed "C" off his chest, so I will enjoy this moment. I agree that more needed to be done and that this is no instant solution, but this man needed to be fired, and I am ecstatic that it finally happened.

  • In reply to BillW:

    Uh oh, Bears also fired Luke Butkus, Dick's gonna be pissed

  • In reply to Dmband:

    again from Mr. Haugh of the Trib:

    "In fluid situation, apparently Bears talked with Marinelli on Monday about DC role but will go outside organization after all.... necessary"

    now i can peacefully sleep at night

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Thank God.

    "Oh and Sixteen" can go back to feeding No-Weight-Gaines a sandwich.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I wish Spencer would go. I think he's an average RB coach AT BEST.

    Cincy made Benson into a top back, put 30 pounds of muscle on him. Spencer has shown little ability to develop backs beyond what they show up with.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    i love the pure speculation just from marinelli staying behind to talk to smith.

    marinelli and the d-line made some strides this season and should stay the line coach to preserve continuity

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Maybe Cullen forgot his gap assignment?

  • In reply to jdawg:

    It sounds like he was in the cover-zero formation.

  • In reply to Shady:

    yes!

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I hope Mr Haugh is correct.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    waddle & silvy just confirmed it. it's all good crown

  • In reply to Dmband:

    We knew it before he got to Chicago. Yet no scrambling rules for the receivers - hence 4 interceptions in green Bay etc. No designed roll-outs in the playbook ? There must have been, I saw a couple of moving pockets too. Turner just didn't dial them up. Which is why he's and good riddance to him ...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    For DC I want Swayze's buddy in Roadhouse having gained 200 lbs ... Sam Waterstone from the Cleveland Browns. that's him ....

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Sam Elliot even ....

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Don't agree that the system was necessarily the problem on defense. It wasn't a problem in 2005/6. I agree with Lovie's assessment of it in the presser. In his own words ...

    On how important it is to have a coordinator that is familiar with his system:

    "Well, when you have a basic philosophy, of course, you want someone with a similar philosophy. We defend our defense a lot as far as the scheme. A lot is being placed on the scheme, the scheme. There is not that much difference between the scheme. I heard our scheme again, the cover-two scheme, every team in the league plays cover-two. We're basically all playing the same thing, we talk about it a different way. It's gap control, that's what defense is, it's gap control. There are only so many coverages you can play, but the person that is coming in, I would like for him to have some of the similar beliefs that I have, but at the same as you evaluate what you are doing, with the new year, you want to bring in new ideas. That's what I am excited about, bringing in some of our new ideas, getting some of our old players back. I feel we can put a good team on the football field in all three phases."

    On if another coach can have success under him in this system
    "I think first off, that playing good defense is about what you are running and the coaching that you are giving it and the players, it all starts with that. As we look at our entire time here with our defense, back in 2005 and 2006 there, our statistics said we were one of the best defenses around. Again, same system as we are running right now, different guys in different positions. Whether you are successful now, a lot has to do, yes, it is the scheme, it is the coordinator, a lot of emphasis is put on that, it is the position coaches that we have. We have excellent defensive coaches, I'm talking position coaches right now. As far as the players, we are going to have to change.

  • Most of us have known this would happen for months. Turner was the obvious fall guy. It is what it is.

    Needless to say, the press conference will be good for a few laughs this afternoon at least...

  • The only good thing that could come of marinelli's promotion is the inclusion of Joe Cullen. He is awesome.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/lions/2006-09-07-assistant-arrests_x.htm

  • The only good thing that could come of marinelli's promotion is the inclusion of Joe Cullen. He is awesome.

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/lions/2006-09-07-assistant-arrests_x.htm

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Cullen drunk and naked going through a Wendy's drive thru? Ok, I'll give him a shot. Epitome of professionalism.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    HE IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!!!!!!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    If you want to crown em like the burger king guy then crown em!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Just sayin' (or hoping):
    Dave Mcginniss was our Head Coach until he really wasn't. They took away Lovie's authority to hire coaches. So we have a head coach whose assistants will not be beholding to him but to angelo or Phillips. Will that work?

    And will quality assistants be interested in a coaching where the head coach has a foot out the door already?

    So will they have trouble getting an OC and DC and therefore decide to get rid of Lovie too? Maybe today - maybe a week or two donwn the line?

    DOUBTFUL - but...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "The Bears said Tuesday they have dismissed offensive coordinator Ron Turner, as well as offensive line coach Harry Hiestand, quarterbacks coach Pep Hamilton"

    I am quite certain those are the exact coaching changes I saw coming 4 or 5 weeks ago... man RT is so predictable that not only can you call his plays ahead of time but his whole career path. So I am going to go for my next prediction and say that he ends up as the head coach for Texas Tech.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Can we stream this press conference live?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Its being reported that 6 members of the coaching staff are gone.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    never mind....found it

  • In reply to gpldan:

    anybody have a feed that's not the score? Those guys are going performance art with the audio clips.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Yeah, that's kind of their schtick...no worries though, nothing monumental is being said anyways.

    Reports that Martz is already out there saying he is interested in the OC position.
    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/martz-wants-bears-offensive-coordinator-post.html

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Did they fire my nephew Luke? I'm coming down to Halas Hall and will be looking for you Jerry.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I actually would be leary of anyone who HAD NOT gone through a Wendy's drunk and naked.

    I mean, who hasnt craved a Spicy Chicken Combo at 1 am after a hard night of drinking. Its very refreshing.

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    I will take a good coach who went through a drive thru naked over a bad coach any day.....that being said is he any good?

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