Martz on Fire

With news everywhere that Mike Martz has finally made his way into the hallowed halls of Halas, it got me thinking a lot about the Chicago Bears' offense.  (Note: Do not continue reading if you're expecting to be interested or enlightened.)

Maybe I'd like Mike Martz. 

Yes he was an awful head coach in St. Louis, losing a seemingly unlosable Super Bowl to a third-rate New England Patriots team.  Yes he didn't work out in either Detroit or San Francisco as an offensive coordinator.  Yes he is a notorious ego, attempting to use every job (including as a broadcaster) as a stepping stool back into the head coaching ranks.

But there's a few things to like about Martz, too.  He won't buy into Lovie's "off the bus running" philosophy, especially when the run game struggles early.  He has a terrific track records with quarterbacks ranging from the Hall of Famer (Warner) to the third tier guys (Alex Smith and Kitna).  He's capable of overseeing the entirety of the offensive operation and tough enough to challenge Lovie's archaic ideology.

But more than that.  He'll be entertaining as hell.  And right now, the way things are going, I'd sign up for 2010 being nothing more than entertaining. 

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  • He'd be as entertaining as a fungal infection.

    Please no.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And by that I mean, he's hilarious when he's making some other team squirm, but I really don't think he'd be that much fun here.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    "MARTZ ON FIRE"

    That's funny, because Martz might make Bears fans set a lot of things on fire.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    And as humorous as Bears management can be, the Bengals REFUSE to be outdone as we now present:

    Linebacker Ray Maualuga BUSTED for DUI.

    He TOTALED a Pontiac Sunfire with 2 little chickadees in it.
    One aged 18, the other a MINOR.

    Oh you funny bengals!

    http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2010/01/29/rey-maualuga-arrested-for-dui/?icid=main|htmlws-main-n|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fbackporch.fanhouse.com%2F2010%2F01%2F29%2Frey-maualuga-arrested-for-dui%2F

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    All that cash and he was driving as sunfire?? lol

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    You know Jeff, something I didn't read in you last post when some of the people were using Jay as the "Whipping Boy" for a lot of the games the Bears lost last year, and undeniably he shares some of the blame. At the same time when given enough protection and the time to set up and not trying to make something out of nothing he generally did pretty well. The one thing I didn't read is the thing that I enjoyed the most is that he, above all, was very entertaining to watch..even when he was screwing up. Sure beat the hell out of watching Neckbeard and "Rex "Deer in the headlights" Grossman! It is after all why we watch a sport is to be entertained isn't it. Now with a year under their belts, Jay and the crew of young WR will be a lot more aquainted and should be more on the same page with each other. Hopefully DA and DK will get a lot more playing time. Maybe Martz is exactly what the Bears need, someone with the kahhuta's to tell Lovie to stuff it, and maybe get a little crazy other than the predictable Hester screen passes. Who know's it just might work! And if they get a DC that doesn't keep moving guy's to different positions and let them concentrate at being real good at one position, that might work too. Pick up a couple free agents to fill in the gaps and we might have something. If nothing else it will be entertaining.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Agree with everything but the 'they play the game to be entertaining for us fans' part. Let me remind you that "you play to win the game" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUw1DOQcDSA

    Common MBF, I'll take a boring team that wins (can you say Indy) over an entertaining train wreck every time. Sounds like you want to join the Raider nation.

    You play to win the game. Second is just first losers man.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Warner is retiring. Hopefully the rest of that Offense will be broken up over the next few seasons and that becomes one less NFC team consistently fighting for a playoff spot for a little while.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Frankly I think it is a good idea. Hopefully a pass-happy offensive coordinator will balance out a rush-happy head coach and provide the balance the offense has desperately needed for years. With the Devins and Knox, the Bears have a fast wide receiving corps who will actually learn how to run routes. And Cutler will be able to progress in his second year here.

    Let's remember: this is a playoffs or bust scenario. Everyone in the NFL knows it. You can't recruit an established candidate for the OC job because of it. You either need to recruit: 1) a young, energetic, ambitious guy who wants the OC title now, regardless of the dangers, or 2) an established OC with baggage who is desperate to prove he can still be successful.

    For years I have seen the Bears hire the younger coaches or ones from universities who did not work out for the coordinator and assistant coordinator positions. You can't throw a stone without hitting someone who worked for Bill Belichick at one time - I can't think of any former Bears coaches who've made a mark anywhere else (Rivera excluded, of course). Have you ever wondered why the Bears haven't been able to coach/guide young on-field talent? It's because their coordinators have for the most part been sub-par.

    But now I see the Bears hiring Tice and Marinelli and hopefully recruiting Martz - the established coaches, as opposed to the younger ones. This is a very quiet watershed moment in Bears coaching which I think is long overdue.

    I think if the Bears hire Martz - and make that move to the turf they have been talking about lately - the Bears have a decent shot at the wild card this year.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    The franchise and transition tag numbers for this season. If Tommie Harris's info towards the bottom doesn't make you mad then look at it again.

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/bears-franchise-players.html

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Ignoring the fact that Martz's carreer has been on the decline is a mistake. Having said that, it will be interesting to see who Martz chooses to be our starting WR's should he be hired. That to me will be the first indication of our success in the passing game. If Hester is no longer in the starting lineup then in my opinion that would be a promising sign.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Oh, and by the way, before anybody starts pointing to Kitna's numbers under Martz, remember who he had lining up at wide receiver. Megatron and Williams make our receivers look like Ethiopians suffering from malnutrition. Twice the target of anything we have on the roster.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    There aren

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Martz might just get Cutler killed with some of those 7 step drops. But at this point though, what the hell. Maybe it's just crazy enough to work (not holding my breath).

    Safe to say, the difference between this offseason and last offseason is staggering.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    It's either gonna be really good, or really bad with Martz. Entertaining either way, as we can start the Lovie countdown at training camp. I'm all for this trainwreck. Book'im, Danno!!!

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    I hope the bears lose a lot of games next year, so lovie is gone,and we have a really high draft pick for a good receiver. THere are supposed to be a lot of those in next year's draft like Julio Jones, A.J. Green, and Michael Floyd.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    so pray that we hire some really inexperienced and bad OC and DC!!!!!!

  • In reply to drose:

    Boom, the Bible says there is a sin leading to death and Paul the appostle says that we aren't supposed to pray for that.

  • In reply to drose:

    I'm starting to have some second thoughts about this. I'm starting to think Martz would actually work, although it's definitely rolling the dice. He could be due, and at least his ego is big enough to stand up to Lovie.

  • In reply to drose:

    Martz will bring life to this offense. He will bring confidence and will hold people accountable. Don't be surprised if we stay healthy that we go 10-6. We have talent. We need to stop acting like we are the Raiders. We are not. We have weapons that just aren't used properly. Cutler will get along with Martz just fine as long as Martz gets him out of the pocket and lets him stretch his legs. 10-6 or 11-5...IF we stay healthy on defense.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    It seems that we honestly don't have any more/other options gents, so get ready for the most mediocre show on terrible sod. We should trademark that before the season?

    We should hope for the best but expect the worst me thinks. Two things should be very interesting to watch

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Don't put that on a shirt with our team's colors or the big bad greedy as fuck NFL will come to your house and sue you. The shops making Who Dat shirts in New Orleans were told to cease and desist making them even though the words Saints or NFL is no where on them.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Sounds like we have been officially eliminated from the playoffs for next season from reading these posts. Maybe we can win in spite of our coaches this year. Probably not but maybe. We definitely need to sign every decent Free Agent out there. I understand the need to have no expectations after what they put us through this year.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    My jebus what a frightening dude.

    He looks incredibly sorry for his mistake in that picture doesn't he?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    You know, at some point it starts to seem like they seek these morons out on purpose!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Why don't these athletes and Hollywood types just hire a limo or get a cab when going out? It's not that expensive.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Because after a lifetime of being told they're special, they believe it.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Imagine a cold and dreary December day, but the Bears are playing. That makes is a GOOD day! It's a good day because the Bears might win. And Briggs might crush someone into the turf. And Forte might break one. And Gould is. And Cutler might perform surgery. And Devin plus Knox might dazzle. And DA might snag it. And the OL might jel. and Peanut might strip. And BU might close from afar and bring wood. And the DL could....uh, er...not fall apart, (man we need a monster DT!). But anyway, I hope you get my drift. The more good Bear stuff that can happen during a game, the better. The more games the Bears win the better, (gotta be in contention in Dec.).

    I want my Bears to win! Win the off-season deals. Win the pre-season games, win the regular season games, win in the playoffs. I want them to destroy their opponent on every single play! Why? Because it's football and I like that shit!!!

    I don't want the Bears to suck. Even if sucking for another season gets rid of Lovie. Talking about the Bears losing big next year so we get Lovie fired is ok, but ONLY if you are doing it to express how frustrated you are with Lovie. we can all understand that. Lovie DOES suck. But you can't really, actually, deep in your heart, for true want the Bears to lose next year. What if they lose, Lovie gets canned and the new guy sucks too? What if they lose and Lovie doesn't get fired (say Cutler goes down week 1 and gives Lovie an excuse)?

    You should not let your hatred for Lovie make you willing to give up a single play, much less a WHOLE season of potential ass-kicking plays. At 100 plays per game that's 1,600 times per season that I might get to see an ass-kickin play. That is EXTREMELY valuable to me and I don't want to give up 1,600 chances to be thrilled, just to increase the chances that Lovie gets fired.

    The 3 Stooges, (Hallas Hall version), suck! We can talk about that all day. I hope Ms. McC wakes up tomorrow and fires them. But I don't want to give up a season to get rid of them. Let's get Martz, Rob and whoever else we are going to get in here quick and start figuring out how to land a monster DT.

    Bear Down!

  • In reply to Oaktown34:

    What that guy said.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    2nd

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Here Here Oaktown!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    "Maybe I'd like Mike Martz."

    Heh. Maybe I'd like the way crack makes me feel. Doesn't mean I'm going to start smoking it.

    Martz is an improvement on Ron Turner...of that I'd have no doubt. Of course that being said I think a cross eyed monkey throwing turds at the list of plays could have done better than Turner. Martz has yet to prove himself as a true offensive genius. He had an awesome Rams team of players back in his hay day so let's see what he can do with a beaten up Bears team with a good QB...who knows...I guess we'll see.

  • In reply to Reichwolff:

    I have actually suggested the monkey idea several times during Turner's tenure but I recommended getting it drunk and letting it throw darts. Throwing turds is probably safer and the cross eyed idea is interesting. Could work out.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Entertaining to me equals winning. I'm sorry but there's nothing worse than dedicating one afternoon a week with hopeful expectations only to be sick to my stomach by halftime. I hope that we are at least competitive next year. I can live with that. I'll take 4-12 with an average loss margin of under 7 pts, I don't think I'll be able to handle many more of the blowouts in one season that I witnessed this year.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I read where a Viking's player selected to the Pro Bowl got booted for missing practice. The Pro Bowl is such a joke. Why not give these players some cash and an honorary award instead and just call it a day. I would love to see a Rookie Bowl instead. Would be great to see Rookies take the field that otherwise wouldnt get to play just to be able to watch and evaluate their game. It would do away with the farce that the Pro Bowl has become.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I thought that was what preseason we for

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    *was

    wow that was an impressively bad typo.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Who gets to see preseason of other teams? I think it would be a great way to see who's star can shine at the end of their 1st year. I think that would generate more interest than the pro bowl where most studs back out these days.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I was being a smartass. Anything would be better than what this year's Pro Bowl is turning into. They have replaced 31 of the original players selected. Wow. How many is there total?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I actually really like that idea Trac. Good one.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB; I don't think the preseason allows most teams to really get a good feel for the talent some of these rookies bring to the table. There is alot of politics that goes on while selecting the starting roster at the beginning to the season and I can't help but think there are quite a few rookies that never get a chance and this would help that process. I could easily envision a scenario where the trade value of some of these players would greatly improve if given more exposure.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    The more I think about this, the more I think it is a great idea. Rookies at the end of the year getting some PT that might otherwise get cut, trade bait. Shit on our team we would be seeing 2-4 players for the 1st time since preseason every year.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I don't think it would ever happen though, it would make too much sense. Football is different than any other sport and I don't think you will ever be able to make the pro bowl a meaning game anymore. It's such a long season and these guys that fight in the trenches every week don't want to risk their careers no matter what the format. The NFL is missing a great opportunity to come up with a new way to generate interest the sport. I know they realize this game is a joke now. It's time for a different format.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I ran my idea on NFL network this morning and the guys blew my idea all to hell. It seems that even though this game doesn't mean much to some of the veterans it really means alot to the new players in the league and the younger players. I can definitely understand that but it still doesn't address the fact the the current format is a joke.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    How about the Rookie Bowl the week before the SB and move the Pro Bowl back to the week after?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    And some of those guys probably still think the game might be good today (did they find enough players to have the game?). Suggest it after the game is over. You might have more supporters. Timing as well as who you know and who you blow (or so I have heard) can be just as important as your idea sometimes unfortunately.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    How about having the Pro Bowl as the internatioanl game ? Have it in a different city every year somewhere outside the States. What better advertising than to have the best players in the NFL playing the game. It should be well after the Super Bowl to give the players a chanvce to play against the best.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Looks like the Martz hire is a sure lock. Hold on to your panties girls, our teams future may just hang on this guy. How the mighty have fallen.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    High cost of football

    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1957046,00.html?xid=rss-topstories-cnnpartner

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Brutal GP.

    Al, I know a

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    It's not the Pro players that is the problem. I figure they have chosen the Gladiator life. It's the kids who play before 18 and in college that are swept up in the culture of football, and get hurt with brain injuries that is the problem.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Absolutely! And there are *thousands* of them for every guy that plays even a single play in the NFL.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    Good article gp. This issue should be taken more seriously. In Jr. high in the 80's, I was a small option QB who ran on the majority of plays. In one game, I took a brutal hit scrambling out of the pocket and was knocked unconscious for quite some time (an ambulance and my Dad were on the field when I woke up). After that, I got my "bell rung" and had to be helped off the field in like 3 of the last 5 games. I'd always go right back in, but I think some people thought I was just being a pussy. Nobody really thought about concussions back then.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The real reason we are looking at Martz and a suck season:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/29/AR2010012902860.html?nav=rss_email/components

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Did anybody else see this?

    McMahon, the last Bears quarterback to be selected to the Pro Bowl (in 1985), praised Cutler's arm strength but questioned his decision-making ability.

    "You don't have to throw it through the wall to be a good quarterback in this league," McMahon said. "You need timing and instincts. You can't teach instincts. You either got 'em or you don't."

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Still rather have Cutty, trying to wing it into dbl coverage and leading by guts, than a Tomczak who needs therapy.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Funny as hell...

    http://ballhype.com/video/mcmahon-teaser-2-the-boost-mobile-shuffle/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And this: http://ballhype.com/video/mcmahon-teaser-2-the-boost-mobile-shuffle/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Whoops: http://ballhype.com/video/mcmahon-teaser-1-the-boost-mobile-shuffle/

  • In reply to gpldan:

    From Si T&R section:

    "The Bears and Mike Martz may have taken another step up the aisle Saturday when Martz traveled to Nashville to have dinner with quarterback Jay Cutler, according to multiple sources close to the situation. If the meeting went well, it's possible Martz could be announced as the Bears offensive coordinator in the very near future."

    Wonder if Martz asked him up for a nightcap and gave him a first date kiss too.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    i dreamt last night that we brought in Martz and got Matt Jones on the cheap...and he turned out to be a lighter shade of Brandon Marshall on the field. The possibilities were endless. Just pull the fucking trigger and get these 2 guys in already.

    i don't know what that dream means though because at one point i was also filming a futuristic action movie with my buddy kevin's older brother and LL Cool J.

    Note to self: take it easy on the booze

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Johnny,

    LL Cool J is still (kind of) cool... even though he sold out like a 16 year old in a boy band.

    ...I swear, it's... unanimous (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLMEOjlq8ck - don't you just love oscar?)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Ok, ok... THIS is the LL I remember: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEUX-HYRtUA

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Was Biz Markie in the dream? He had one of the best videos of the 80's, just a friend.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbH3bAvTYjg

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Biz Markie ! Man ! Memories ! Schooly D. KRS. Public Enemy. The Electro records. Grandmaster Flash ... back when Will Smith was an upper class white nerd ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    ...and now he's an upper rich white nerd.

    Don't forget Kool Mo D, EPMD, one of my favorites Dana Dane, Big Daddy Kane, then EasyE and Ice Cube (old skool), etc... etc...

    Man, they just don't make hip hop like they used to. I only listen to the old stuff, the new stuff is crap.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB, my buddy Jeff and I did a version of "mama said knock you out" for an 8th grade talent show. the premise was simple enough. we just took our shirts off, wrapped bandannas on our heads slapped on some Wayfarer sunglases that someone was using for a Blues Brothers sketch and then proceeded to lip synch and just run around the stage fake punching each other and doing pushups. i have had the best fucking life.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Nice! So, did you take the prize? We did some similar shit when we were young.

    I'm sure you're mom was all swolled up with pride sitting in the audience, just like mine was. Hahahahaha

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    After Lovie Smith publicly states that the "Chicago Bears are predominately a running football team", he puts Mike Martz' hat in the ring as potential O.C. of this team! That's like saying "even though I don't touch any alcohol anymore, I still like to have a beer now and then". If ignorance was electricty, The Bears organization would be a "powerhouse"!!!

  • In reply to winstonchill29:

    If ignorance was electricity. Cracks me up. Anything that can make me laugh about this situation is a good thing. Thanks Winston.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Very good post, Jeff. I have been looking for a way to stay loyal and keep optimistic as well. This helps....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think when you call yourself Ladies Love Cool James, you've left the reservation. But I did buy the 12" remix of I need love, that was sweet ...

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, when you call yourself Ladies Love Cool James, you've transcended cool and become a fucking legend. Too bad he had to fuck it all up with lame TV appearances and bad movie parts. Oh well, I

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think when you call yourself Ladies Love Cool James, you've left the reservation. But I did buy the 12" remix of I need love, that was sweet ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I think when you call yourself Ladies Love Cool James, you've left the reservation. But I did buy the 12" remix of I need love, that was sweet ...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Did you bang any hot movie stars while filming the movie, like Jessica Alba or the American Pie chick? I hope the defense wasn't tackling like usual, like in the "Pro-Bowl" game.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    no, that's the fucked up thing about it. i was dreaming about football and then it sort of segway'd into a movie set and we were running through stunt choreography in like futuristic police uniforms. i think we were like a special unit or something. i woke up laughing my ass of at 4am and my wife was freaking out because i woke her up out of REM sleep.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Well we can always switch to playing "flag football" so it would cut down on head trauma... and thick padded uniforms so no one gets bruised...look at it this way, these guy's are the modern day Gladiators, and at least they get medical attention and have the option to not do it. Better that the retirement plan back in the Roman Empire days, usually a sword stuck through ya, or you become a Lions lunch or both! I know I'm being a smartass but in everything we do in life we have choices we can make, and I'm quite certain that most young players are well aware of the consiquences of playing football in the NFL..and the glory as well. I'll shut up now!

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    Again, I feel no guilt watching the NFL. It's Ditka who is yapping that the old NFL players are being left to rot in pain, and trying to get more $ for medical care from the NFL.

    It's the kids, anyone under 18. I don't see why tackle football needs to start before Varisty in high school. And only seniors and juniors should be allowed to play. And more research needs to go into helmet technology. The brain is soft tissue, it doesn't recover from scarring. Everything else heals, save the spine.

    And more money to other sports scholarships like soccer and tennis and academics. Too many people see football as the ticket to a college education.

    But I'll stop now.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    It's pretty much a given that there is no way to make Football "non-dangerous", short of MaddBear's "Flag football" post and as far as I am concerned the Pro-Bowl is "Exhibit A" against going in THAT direction.

    Like I said, I wouldn't last 10 minutes in that environment.
    I'd probably collapse in the weight room.

    I think the opening scene in NORTH DALLAS FORTY of Phil Elliott waking up the day following a game and trying to get out of bed is the still the textbook depiction of what being a football player does to one's body.

    Hmm. I digress here but, I own like, 300+ Movies on DVD (THEY WERE EXPENDABLE and RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP were viewed last night) but NORTH DALLAS FORTY is NOT one of them!!!

    SHEESH! FLAG ON ME for ILLEGAL PROCEDURE!
    I mean, C'MON, the BEST football movie ever made and I didn't even snap it up when I saw it in the $5 bin at Wal-mart last year?!
    Shame on me. There's ANOTHER FLAG! PERSONAL FOUL! UNSPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT!

    I will definitely address THAT situation.

    Seriously, I think that the NFL should take a long, hard look at "soft" helmets and loosing the hard shell. Molded "foam" for lack a a more informed term, that would primarily ABSORB traumatic force and be less of a SOURCE of destruction than the hard hats.
    The current helments already have the inflatable lining.

    Someone else has suggested going back to minimal or even NO face masks. The idea being the 'cages' they wear now afford TOO much protection and of a sense of invulnerability that promotes more head-to-head contact.

    Just sayin'.

    Lastly, I will not watch a second of the Now-Even-More-of-a-Joke-Game-With-30-Plus-Players-Replaced Pro-Bowl this evening.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I hear you on the $5 bin. I was walking through the airport shops one time with about 1000 Euro stuffed in my pocket. I noticed these beautiful aluminium flight cases containing poker chips for 25 Euro. I remember thinking, "Wow, they're great value'" and walking on. Half an hour later on your plane you're thinking Wtf ? Why didn't I buy ten of those fuckers ...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    The proposal of no face masks might work, foam cannot. The bottom line is that the skull decelerates far too quickly for any shock absorption to matter. Like the article said, its the brain sloshing around inside the skull.

    And it's not just the brain, all those other internal organs cannot be deriving much benefit from slamming around inside the body.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    What is Lovie's diseased brain thinking now ? Cutler and Martz ? Matter and Anti-matter in the same place ? This is a marriage made in the seventh layer of hell my friends. The fall of Camelot is complete. "Now Jay, Uncle Mike is going to be staying with us for a little while, you just be on your best behaviour for mummy and treat him like one of the family ...". Yeah, right.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, you just left it WAAAY too open for Mustache and GP to have their way with the, 'Uncle Mikey touched me in my private area and told me not to tell anyone' jokes. Not good.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Just read an idea. What about having the Senior Bowl the Sunday before the SB in the SB host city to give the media something to do all week?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I actually watched some of the Pro Bowl last night for the first time in like 15 years to see if I could catch Johnny rocket run one back.

    I have to be perfectly honest and say that it was a hell of a lot more entertaining than I remember. I actually somewhat enjoyed it... but I think that was more for the novelty of it and not because it was a good/exciting game.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Food for thought guys. When a quality head coach/coach leaves an organization, if that person/professional truly has been successful at his job, the team/teams he leaves should be better when he is gone than when he first arrived on the scene. The coach that replaces him may not be as good but the team he built should still have the building blocks for success in place. You cannot say this when looking at the Lions, 49ers and Rams in the wake of Martz's tenure with those teams. I think that is what should alarm us more than anything about bringing Martz on board. There's a tried and true saying, "How it starts is how it ends". Martz is O for 3 since Vermiel retired, what makes you think he will be any better under Lovie?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    No Murph, I was true to my word and did not even surf past the Pro-Bowl.

    I DID take a nap about that time which I deemed slightly more exciting than the level of play in the Pro Bowl.

    So, how much impact is Dwight Freeny's njury going to have this Sunday?

    The 4-letter reported that Freeny had ZERO Sacks and ZERO tackles in the against the Bears in the Super Bowl.

    So, the Bears took him completely out of that game and still lost by 12.

  • In reply to RogerMinton:

    The Pro Bowl should be replaced with a weekend of the Superstars.

    Reduce All-Pro status to 44 players, 11O + D for two teams, then 22 on the AFC and 22 on the NFC. Have the weightlifting, the obstacle course, the swimming, and some of those moving tires with throwing the football events. And the O line could pull the truck up the hill, ala strongman. Some blocking sled events for D line. Make the team that wins earn some serious cash, like $250k per player, losing team gets nothing. That would take about $6M to run (there's Steve Austin again), easy pie for the NFL. If you step aside, ala Briggs, you get nothing.

    That would be worth watching. At least fucking entertain us.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The NFL could pay per view themselves $100 million a year if they do the NBA Celebrity Hoops thing from All-Star weekend, NFL version. Each team half celebrities, half pros. I'm thinking Kanye catching a pass high over the middle and oh I don't know maybe Troy Polamalu full steam hitting him so hard his great great grandmother feels it. The list of celebrities I would fork over $60 in a heart beat to see that happen to is pretty lengthy.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Full disclosure: I have nothing personal against Kanye and think he is decently talented. He did steal a few hours of my life at Bonnaroo I will never get back and he just seems generally rather douchish. Easy target.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Just thought I'dd add that regardless of your (and mine) feelings about Martz, you can't blame him for anything that happened in Detroit. His boss was Matt Millen. Recently, Mooch admitted that he had all but the contract signed to bring in Drew Brees, and Millen said they were ok with Joey fucking Harrington. Hell, Martz got Jon Kitna over 4000 yards with CJ and the highly overrated Roy Williams.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    From the misc. file:

    Since we were talking about him a couple weeks ago... How far he's fallen. Man getting old sucks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okhxM6EypGY

    Bunch of friggin thugs: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/McKinnie-gets-booted-off-NFC-Pro-Bowl-roster?urn=nfl,216654

    Good for him: http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-herschelwins013010&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    There's you're boy Trac (or whomever it was that threw Tebow out there): http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-tebow_senior013010&prov=rivals&type=lgns

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    From the misc. file:

    Since we were talking about him a couple weeks ago... How far he's fallen. Man getting old sucks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okhxM6EypGY

    Bunch of friggin thugs: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/McKinnie-gets-booted-off-NFC-Pro-Bowl-roster?urn=nfl,216654

    There's you're boy Trac (or whomever it was that threw Tebow out there): http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-tebow_senior013010&prov=rivals&type=lgns

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    From the misc. file:

    Since we were talking about him a couple weeks ago... How far he's fallen. Man getting old sucks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okhxM6EypGY

    Bunch of friggin thugs: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/McKinnie-gets-booted-off-NFC-Pro-Bowl-roster?urn=nfl,216654

    There's you're boy Trac (or whomever it was that threw Tebow out there): http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ys-tebow_senior013010&prov=rivals&type=lgns

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    From the misc. file:

    Since we were talking about him a couple weeks ago... How far he's fallen. Man getting old sucks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okhxM6EypGY

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    He was in his late 30s in the 1970s when he did the Bionic Man. How did you expect him to look?

    Considering he was older than Farrah when he was banging her, he's still alive and doing ok in his late 60s. Farrah is rotting away somewhere.

    He's doing ok.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Farrah died of anal cancer last year. I didn't even know there was such a thing. She allowed her last six months to be filmed for some reason.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Lee Majors was the coolest motherf@cker on the planet ! Take your wuss movie stars like Tom Cruise, lame sportstars like Tiger Woods and joke wrestler-turned-actors and airlock the lot of them. Every kid wanted to be the six million dollar man !

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oh, and, what a bunch of punks: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/McKinnie-gets-booted-off-NFC-Pro-Bowl-roster?urn=nfl,216654

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I had a long drunken conversation tonight with my brother in law who is from St. Louis. We really tore into some Belgian beer tonight. He is convinced that Martz will turn Cutler into Warner. He endured the St. Louis teams of old that sucked so hard that he actually throw items at his TV. Here was his exact quote:

    "Martz will turn Cutler into Kurt Warner. He will create a dynamic offense in Chicago and will turn Forte into the 2nd coming of Faulk. Martz is a fucking cocksucker and will demand perfection....but Cutler should welcome the challenge to become truly one of the best in the game. Martz will help him do that. If Martz is your coordinator in 2010 all of you guys will be apologizing for your current opinions and comments. The talent level of Cutler and the Bears weapons is much higher than what you currently think."

    This is from a guy that truly believes that Martz will rock Chicago. I agree. We need a cocky dick to come in and DEMAND perfection. No room for Rash, no room for mediocrity, no room for scoring 14 points a game, no getting off the bus running. Just an offense that makes people sit on the edge of their seat. Combine that with a healthy defense and you get a much different result than this year. bank on it.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Pretty convincing stuff from a fan of a team that hypothetically fights with us for a playoff spot each year. At least until the 1st few games are played. I am sure he would have enjoyed saying the opposite if he believed differently.

    I have never been one to pass on a tasty, refreshing glass of hopeful Kool-aid since it seems to be the beverage of choice at Halas Hall (and the only beverage lately) so while I will not be guessing any better than 10-6 at any point this season unless we make some monster FA pick ups, I have been sold on not bitching when we hire Martz on Monday.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    and it is better than hiring an assistant from a Community College or whoever they are planning on getting turned down from next.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    whatever the Bears do, it had better not be to hire a college coordinator. oh my god please don't hire a college coordinator.

  • Doc, I don't think the kids hit hard enough through pop Warner, but getting into jr. high and high school, I get it. Not sure what to do about it though

  • Claaaaaaaasy: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/hey_miami_this_bird_for_you_zt5Fa0AsfdsExMOxV6IGpO

  • Peter King gives his odds for who will get elected to the HOF on Saturday. Will this be the year Dent makes it in? I sure hope so.

    Also an interesting read about the OT format. I like the idea of moving the kickoff back to the 30 yd. line. More touchbacks would increase the likelihood of both teams at least getting a shot with the ball. I love the first team to 6 idea someone on here had.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/01/31/mmqb/index.html

  • Dwight Freeney is definitely out for the Super Bowl, with a torn muscle in his shin/ankle area.

    Adjust your spreads accordingly.

  • I know it wasn't in the running; and it wasn't technically a Bears play. But I wonder how much closer the voting for Bears highlight of the year would have been if Tracy Porter's Brett Favre pick and cynical calf roping celebration would have been on the list. I know I laughed for a good 5 minutes while a table of previously boistrous Vikings fans, got real quiet.

  • it's official: Martz is the new OC for our Chicago Bears

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Aw hell no.
    C'mon FQD...it's not April 1st yet.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    lol...the announcement just came from Halas Hall. it's official as that GSH patch on the Bears jersey.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Man, I have to turn 35 tomorrow and now this?!?!
    I HATE that guy.
    Lovie and Jerry, you guys already suck in profound and myriad fashions and you just added another way to the list.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Happy b-day MBP.

    I was there a year ago. It's the same shit from here on out brother. I told my wife and family to stop throwing parties and giving gifts, it's just silly from here on out.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thanks MB30 - I feel the same way. I don't want another cake until I have no teeth.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    happy b-day bro

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Ok - so we got Martz whether we want him or not.

    Marinelli's next as DC I feel.

    Hope the Bears demand Field Turf next year for Soldier Field.

    The season just got more entertaining - if not more successful.

  • In reply to BillW:

    feel the same exact way. and MF will flourish w/ the system Martz is going to implement b/c he can catch the ball anywhere on the field

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Well Boys and Girls I really just been on the sideline watching the blog go on. Sorry to say not really not into our Bears seeing the can FU!@$#K up a one car funeral. and have! and see the circle jerk just goes on and on and on and on..and now bring in CAP'N Assmunch himself ...Martz..great now him and LDL can fight over who gets more time on the Jumbotron during Games...yes..MB Pathetic... maybe that will be LDL's word instead finish..Shit... Go Dent!! Go Saints!! and of course 2010 please Baby Jebus..yes my favorite out of all the Jebus's...please protect JC this year so we can at least have him standing up right in 2011 when we get rid of the CLUSTERFU!$@#!#$'s we have now as management!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Now get to work Shartz! Don't let 'em off the hook!

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Yep: http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=6521

    Who else would it have been???? No one else would take the gig. Well, at the very least, it should be interesting to watch. let's hope Jay survives the entire season.

    Now which non-name douche are they going to name as DC... IF we can get someone to take the gig. If not it'll be Marinelli by default. How pathetic.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They could've hired a dirty gym sock to be OC and it would've been more productive.
    Martz was OC when the Rams had at least 3 (Warner, Pace, Faulk) and maybe 4 HOF players on Offense. And he managed to win one SB as OC and lose one as HC. Good god, he hit his ceiling 10 years ago.
    What did he do in SF? Nothing except piss off the Head Coach.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    It's like Madame Tussaud's Gallery of Washed-up Head Coaches.
    Hey, maybe Jim Mora wants to come on board!!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    PLAYOFFS!?!?!??!!

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