Chicago at Detroit Preview

I had a dream last night. (I have one every night, I think, but this one's pertinent to the site.)  In the dream I was meeting some friends at a bar in Hoboken, New Jersey and when I looked at the television the Bears were playing the Lions.  I didn't know the game was on.  I can't remember the last time, maybe elementary school, I didn't know a Bears game was on.  That's the sadness of ending these kinds of years.

Your Soon-to-Be Hibernating 2009 Chicago Bears
over
Detroit Lions

Why do I like the Chicago Bears this week?
  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • They're playing the Detroit Lions.  (Reverend's side note on the failed terrorist attempt: why is there a direct flight from Amsterdam to Detroit?  Is that a popular destination for the Dutch?)
  • Jay Cutler needs 448 yards to become to set the single-season passing record.  Not gonna happen.  But he needs three touchdowns and a clean sheet to even his touchdown-to-interception ration.  I don't know why but I think it matters to him and think he's going to play a brilliant game to end the season.
  • Players like Lovie Smith quite a lot, especially guys like Alex Brown and Tommie Harris.  What's that mean?  Expect another effort like Monday night but without a good offense on the other side of the ball.
  • With Danieal Manning and Johnny Knox hobbled, Devin Hester should return to kickoff returns.  Indoors.  Fast track.  Touchdown.  (I'd love hear someone ask Hester what it has felt like to watch Cribbs steal his return thunder these last two years.)
  • I always thought the quarterback and receivers would take three our four weeks to build a rapport.  They have.  The quarterback is Cutty.  The receiver is Aroma.  Big game for D.A.
  • You get the sense that this team, this coaching staff, knows 7-9 sounds better than 6-10.  They're the kind of group that wins games like this so they can feel better about themselves at the pressers afterward.  And it will give Lovie a terrific opportunity to tell us how many games he should have won and how close they were to the playoffs.

Chicago Bears 37, Detroit Lions 10

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  • Please bring Brandon Marshall to the Bears, Cutler to Marshall, TD!

  • In reply to LALaw:

    Cutler to Marshall FTW

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Cutler made Marshall. Let him build up Bennett and Aroma like he did with the WRs in Denver.
    Bring in Bill Cower!!!

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  • Jeff, did you see this on the Bear's Si.com news page... check the second listing down: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/teams/chicago-bears/

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Damn trigger finger... I was also going to say that it looks like your voice is being heard, and we can only hope that means the Bears brass are also listening and reading.

    Well done.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Sorry for the repost, but I'm curious to hear some reactions to the last post on the previous string. Here it is again:

    Observer, Viva,

    Interesting conversation and thoughts. I wonder how much revenue (tickets, % of concessions, merchandising, uplift the following season, etc

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Thank you professor MB30SD.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Hardly Shady. Far, far, far from it sir.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Josh Mcdaniels is a stroke.It was only a matter of time before things imploded in Denver. I am as old school as Ditka but with todays overpaid ego-maniacs it takes a coach who knows when to kick someone in the ass or let it go.

    Mcdaniels is a young punk,with players damn near his age on the field. He simply aint paid his dues,to be in the position of authority that he has.

    The Bears are gonna stomp all over the Loins,this will save Lovie for the year.This team has me puzzled,i dont know if they dont really care,or they lack a kill or be killed attitude,or they just suck.

    Monday the O-line played well,and so did Tommie Harris.O-line played well,Cutler all of a sudden looks like the guy we thought he was.

    Sunday is no test,the Loins are that bad. What a fucked-up wasted season this has been..................

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I agree, and think that the $11 million spent buying out Lovie's contract is in the best interest of the team both monetarily and on the football field. I think teams that try to win can and most often do make more money. They are intertwined.
    I think Virginia will have a strong case if she were sued by the other trustees in the event she dismisses Lovie from his current contract.

    And now for another random thought. I was thinking about the upcoming contract negotiation between the owners and the players and hope that we can walk away with the following rule changes:
    1. The NFL should not reward losing the way that it does with draft picks. (I know the argument can be made that the 1st pick of the draft is more problematic then anything else because of the risk of spending real dollars on a player who may or may not make it in the league, but if that is the case then why would we want to punish failure even more. I think the best way to delegate draft picks is to implement a 32 (total # of teams) year rotation. Every 32 years you have the 1st pick in the draft and every 32 years you have the 32nd pick in the draft...(Treat all teams equally...)

    2. Coaches contracts are non guaranteed. I don't know if this would be necessary, if not, then I would like to see a more results driven contract in the future. (ie. if you miss the playoffs for three consecutive years we have the right to terminate.)

    3. Slotting system for high draft picks. (The process is broken)

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Doc..It's all about the CaChing buddy... We see what Roselle, Tagliabue and now Godell want....an even playing level and we have that in the NFL today.. They do not want Dynasty's any longer, that losses money.. Market shares, T.V. ads,logo copyrights.. when you can make royalties every minute of the day...CACHING!!!

    Again the MCFU!@#!@$Key are a perfect example of running it dry, they donot give a crap about the fans per say, it's how far you can drag their $$$ out of you billfold..until we as fans bitch about it..then throw us a bone and we will take their asses off the fire..

    I did over ten years in the Ad biz in Chi-Town and I can tell you they make Vampires look like Choir Angels.. and their attitude is A-typical for that business.. like the NFL ..CHEW.CHEW..CHEW AND SPIT....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

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  • In reply to MB30SD:

    No Stafford. No Culpepper (although I kinda wish Daunte was in there, he'd be a nice stationary target).

    The Lions stun us all and bring Flutie back. Having never played against the zippy midget, the Bears cannot stop him and the Lions win big on his 150 yrds rushing!

    Ok, maybe not.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Don't laugh up Flutie. He could end up in Minnesota next year. Those smaller guys age slower, something to do with the theory of relativity. Yup, he could be tearing us up next year with his kung fu throws and tapping Jessica Simpson ...

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    HAPPY NEW YEAR,
    Fire Lovie and staff go get marshall,get sharper and some oline help ASAP trade harris hester vasher and whoever the fuck to get some ass kickers here for 2010 Bear Down!Bears 44 Lions 10

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    McDaniels is trying to export all of the talent on his roster, one piece at a time...who's next to get on his bad side? Dumervil?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/01/marshall.ap/index.html

    This guy's an idiot, but I think if we bring in a new regime, they'll be obligated to take a shot at him.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    MBP, I heard C. Berman talking about how MickyD is sitting Marshall this week... for his 'attitude'.

    Oh man, can we please please please get on the horn right now to take the troubled Mr. Marshall off his hands right now? Let's swoop in and play savior.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm sure we could get him for our second round....oh, wait. Maybe they'll trade him for Gaines Adams!

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    In all seriousness, we'll have to go Player A and a low-round pick since I don't think a 3rd plus low-round pick will do it.
    I can't say enough: I think Marshall is an idiot.
    However, he is a supremely talented idiot that would make our passing game deadly next year.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I THOUGHT I read in the Trib that Culpepper would start Sunday?

    I believe Drew Stanton's cumulative QB rating in his starts is somewhere south of 10.

    Detroit's secondary is bad, BUT, on the other hand, they ARE getting NO pressure on the opposing QB from their front 4.

    After breaking their losing streak and signs of promise from Matt Stafford, the Lions have been pretty much circling the drain since their rookie QB wrenched his knee in the first game against the Bears. Then Kevin Smith went on I.R., Stafford seperated his left shoulder, etc.,etc. Calvin Johnson is about the only bullet left in their gun and he's been battling a gimpy knee most of the season although Maurice Morris had a nice game running against the Cardinals 2 weeks ago.

    The Bears will have to really mail it in this week to go 6-10.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Say what?

    I thought Brandon Marshall had really made an honest attitude adjustment after the traing camp shenanigans? Every interview I saw/heard him give basically said: "I regret my actions. I was a jerk and I needed to grow up."

    He just came right out and took full resposibility.
    Now, after carrying the Bronocs offensively for 16 weeks, he complains about a hamstring issue and immediately McDaniels brands him an "attitude problem" again?

    What's up with that, coach? I mean, YOU'RE not the guy trying to sprint with a bad hammy, are you, wonder boy?

    And what do you think Kyle Orton is thinking regarding this, as Chester A. Riley would put it: "...revoltin' development..."?

    PS: If you know who Chester A. Riley was, you are REALLY dating yourself.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    in case nobody has mentioned it, congratulations to Lance Briggs and his fifth consecutive pro bowl

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    As a followup to the benching of Marshall...you guys will love this.

    McDaniels just benched Tony Scheffler too, evidently because of his "attitude".
    I'm all for fire-and-brimstone coaching, but having to bench these guys sounds alarmingly like he's lost the locker room. That 6-0 start was a long, long time ago.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    " Your Soon-to-Be Hibernating 2009 Chicago Bears "

    ...I'm pretty sure they've been in hibernation since September 13 2009..

    "

  • In reply to MadMaxRockatansky:

    I see your New Year's Resolution to be less of a giant prick in 2010 is already broken...

  • In reply to MadMaxRockatansky:

    As an aside - I say this every year since the NFL adjusted the schedule:

    It's so stupid that the last regular season game is played in January. It really is. The season should be over at Xmas. This should be the first week of the playoffs, and then back the Super Bowl up into January.

    I sound like Grandpa Cranky I know...

  • In reply to MadMaxRockatansky:

    Mad Max FU@!$#!$#ER.. Nice... you have nothing better to do than blog tipping. Oh thinking of tipping why don't you go to your back yard get your cow and/or any other family member and go tipping then. And by the way in your wonderful thread here why don't we just change you last line to GO FUDGE PACKER.. troll

  • In reply to MadMaxRockatansky:

    Hope you have really big fun being one and done !

  • In reply to MadMaxRockatansky:

    Hoping that the meeting with Smith results in his firing, but I am not at all optimistic. I believe they MAY release Ron Turner. That is about it. For one thing, the Halas "brain trust" is full of cheapskates and amateurs. In addition, we are talking Chicago here, undisputed home to political correctness in this country.

  • In reply to Sactown:

    don't you mean political corruptness...if that is even a word

  • In reply to Sactown:

    Turner strikes me as an arrogant, self important, pompous ass. You think Jay doesn't like being asked about performance? Take a look at the king of being a dick when someone pretty much calls him out. He has to go. Plays were called over the last couple of weeks that we fucking ignored for almost the whole season. Jay made good decisions yesterday and ran/threw the ball away instead of taking ridiculous chances. A true coach would have been in his face after GreenBay telling him that. Cutler could probably call a better game and probably lost a lot of respect for the coaches after he basically told them who he wanted to be WR for the Bears and they didn't listen. His name was fucking DA. Our QB is a better judge of talent than our coaching staff. We suffered through so many bubble screens and TE settle routes instead of deep posts and slants, tightend drags and seam routes that worked consistently. TURNER OUT RIGHT FUCKING NOW.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    and by slants i don't mean Johnny Knox's gay version of a slant where he stops the route resulting in INT's. I'm talking about DA smoking some nerd out of his jock because he is 6'2 220 and is fast as hell.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    maybe 205

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    try 190 soaking wet.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Exactly, McJosh is a prime tool. If he was dumb enough to cough up Cutler then we should at least try to get Marshall off him (or Dumervil). McDaniels has just basically traded Marshall away with his comments. His dumb, dumb, comments.

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  • It's been a pretty awful season, so I'm thankful it's coming to a merciful end.

    This game is meaningless outside of maybe seeing a few of the younger guys and perhaps a preview of what the future might bring.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Agree with Shady for the most part... still always sad to see FB go.

    I'm not a baseball or basketball fan and I'm in San Diego so never really been into hockey. Of course I have you guys to keep me thinking/talking about our Bears. And I'm really hoping that this offseason is going to be much more interesting and exciting for us as than the season was. If our wishes are actually granted, can you imagine all of the discussions we'll have around the new regime changes? And even if there are just other major coaching/player changes but lovie stays, there

  • Doc, good points. Of course the argument was theoretical since there would never be any true legal precedence there. I don

  • Yep, just nice to think that maybe some of the bears management actually read jeff and some of our comments. Maybe they are paying attention to the people who keep them in their mansions and Bentleys.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hug that dream, MB.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    I'm staying positive and throwing it out there SC. Hoping it allllll comes true.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Time for another trip to the proctologist to retrieve your head, Mad Max.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hey, "Grandpa Cranky", er, gpldan, move over and I'll take a seat
    right next to you on that rant.

    I TOO believe adding 2 games to the schedule is NOT a good thing either, Doc.

    We sound like those other 3 dwarfs Snow White never mentioned: Cranky, Pissy and Angry.

    Following up on that 18 games schedule...

    I'm sure WE all wish the Bears had THREE more games to play this season instead of just ONE! (Oh My GAWD!)

    Here's what else an 18 game schedule will bring you:

    Teams with records of 0-18, 1-17, 2-16, etc. etc.

    Teams LIMPING (literally) in the post season even more than they are now.

    Fewer stars left standing to compete in the post season.

    Shorter player careers.

    Oh yeah, THOSE all sound like IMPROVEMENTS dont they, Roger?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Amen..Al.

    P.S. This maybe LDL's future way to get us into the playoofs.. oops.. I meant offs'. or maybe a Fruedian Slip there.

    Just think our record of 6-12 would get us in the playoff's so we could get BIT!@#ED slapped in the first round. (MINNEY_SO-DA)

    WOW Great Idea Rog!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Brian Billick?

    The guy WAS considered an offensive guru, some said genius, when he was the Viking's OC.

    Then he became a head coach at Baltimore and never came CLOSE to approaching the offnsive success he enjoyed in Minny-Ha-Ha.

    He won inj Baltimore because he had a defense that approached the '85 Bears.

    His Raven offenses were strictly pedestrian.

    AND, I beieve, he used a #1 pick on KYLE BOLLER.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al.. Hey it's another Lovie/JA!!! Knows how to pick talent and work with it huh?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I may be a heretic for saying this:

    The Raven SB D was better than the 85 Bears. I've never seen a team go into more hostile turf (the Ravens were a wildcard that year) and stuff it down the favored team's throat like that. They went into Oakland, the team that went to the Super Bowl the next year, and kicked the Raiders ass. They were unblockable. I don't think Tony Siragusa had 1/100th the career that Hampton had, but he was a force THAT playoff run. Lewis and the LB core were all at the peak of their ability. Every bit the trio that Singletary, Wilson and Marshall were.

    Those two D's stand head and shoulders above all else. The LT led Giants D was not in the same class. The Pats D that shut the greatest show on turf down was a great GAME, but not an elite D.

    Every time I see Trent Dilfer on tv introduced as "Super Bowl winner", I think never has one NFL player ridden the coat tails of another D like Trent has. Possibly - I'd have to break the books out here - probably the worst super bowl winning QB in history.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Maybe you're too young to remember, but the '85 Bears 'D' was FEARED. This isn't about stats. Teams FEARED THEM. They then shut out their first two playoff opponents (never been done before or since), knocked out New England's QB and only gave up 10 points.

    No, the 2000 Ravens 'D' wasn't as good as the '85 Bears. Just the tally of QBs the Bears literally KNOCKED OUT of games, should say otherwise.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Should be an interesting couple week ahead gents. I heard two analysts on the radio today (didn't catch their names), both said they think Lovie will be gone next week along with Turner and some of the other 'position coaches'. No idea how much real info these guys have, but seemed to be pretty dialed into the upper management scene in the NFL.

    Let's hold our breath and hope boys.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Anyone have a streaming link available?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    gpldan,

    '85 Bears: 18-1 '00 Ravens: 16-4.

    But "Greatness" is built on the POST-season.

    The '85 Bears own the best post season run ever, pitching TWO consecutive shutouts and allowing 3 "meaningful" points in the overall. I submit that if Walter and Jimmy Mac don't botch the exhange and turn the ball over on the opening posession of the Super Bowl, the Patriots would have been shutout #3 because New England got their consolation TD only after the Bears had called off the dogs and pulled many of the starters.If a 3rd shutout was on the line, you KNOW Buddy and his boys would have gone for the throat.

    I respect that 2000 Raven defense, but while they are part of the dicsussion, they are still second best.

    Two shutouts.

    3 meaningful playoff points allowed.

    Find me another team in the Super Bowl Era to accomplish THAT playoff feat before you again utter the words "better than the '85 Bears".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    A strong case. Let me respectfully make mine.

    Bears against Rams and Bears against Giants were home games. They made Eric Dickerson eat it, but the weather and home field advantage played a large large part in what went down.

    Dec 31 2000: Ravens at Broncos
    Final Score 21-3 Ravens.

    Broncos, who were coming off a winning season and had ROTY Mike Anderson running the ball in what was perhaps Shanny's best run attack outside his Super Bowl David teams - gets slammed down, held to 177 TOTAL Yards, AT MILE HIGH.

    Jan 7 2001: Ravens at Titans.
    Ravens 24-10

    These are the Eddie George Titans. They open the game with a scoring drive taking the momentum - certainly the Bears did much better - but then the Titans get shut down - at home - for a TOTAL of 134 yards. At home.

    Jan 14 2001
    Ravens at Raiders
    Ravens 16-3

    Raiders heavily favored. Andre Rison had his best season ever, and Gannon was playing like he wanted a bust in Canton. Siragusa gives Gannon a concussion, and the Raiders throw 5 pics. Held to 191 yards total.

    Meaningful points, really - 13.

    Super Bowl - Jan 28 2001

    Giants are favored. Ravens win 34-7, giving up 152 yards total. The Giants got owned. Boulware, Sharper and Lewis are everywhere, just dominating Ron Dayne and Tiki Barber. Collins can't do squat.

    The Ravens become only the third wildcard team ever to make a run, and the most impressive easily - going into hostile territory and essentially wiping out everyone who stood in the way.

    The rest of my argument hinges on the fact the Bears go to a Super Bowl at the low ebb of the AFC. At that point, the Giants, Skins, Niners et al. have all but smashed the AFC, something like a 12 year Super Bowl run. The Eason-Grogan Pats are perhaps the weakest AFC team to show up during that run. Vegas had the Bears by double digits.

    The Giants of 2001, however, were FAVORED to win that game. Nobody have the Ravens shit, they took everything they wanted. Their offense sucked, but their D simply dominated.

    I'd say it was a tie. I put no other D in history in that Top Ring. Not even the Montana-Lott 49ers who many consider to be the best Super Bowl team ever. Boomer at the Bengals almost knocked them off. They were not dominant.

    The Bears and the Ravens were the best Ds ever to take the field.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I know its early but anybody got a link?

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    http://www.justin.tv/easiest#r=gNd96Ho

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    ignore that one - it's dead.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    love watching DA block downfield

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    forte running strong today

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    I like DA more and more. Wouldn't mind if we bring in more big bodied receivers...Cutler clearly prefers them.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Guess I Will have to wait until I get home and watch the tivo

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Gould back on track. points on the opening drive is huge. decent drive, good start. i know it deosn't mean much in terms of this season but i just want to see consistency and solid execution today.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    i swear that Tim Shaw is on almost every tackle on special teams. weird.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wow. Culpepper, that was crap. That INT was like a shitty punt.

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  • In reply to dkbat:

    Thanks! Had to switch to IE (blech), but looks good so far. Much appreciated!

  • In reply to dkbat:

    So far, we continue to see the reasons why this offense has sucked this year. All the little mistakes.

    Not good seeing Cutler get blasted like that...Williams must have whiffed on that one, or it was a blitz that wasn't picked up.

  • In reply to dkbat:

    I sure do like Hester as a return man more than Hester the "receiver".

  • In reply to dkbat:

    I know it's just the Lions, but Bell does power between the tackles much better than Forte this year. Shame no one figured that for the first dozen games.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Very true! I think Bell, Aromashadu, and Tim Shaw are the most interesting prospects not starting on this team in Week 1.

  • In reply to dkbat:

    That's about as open as I've seen Olsen get all year. Nice job by Jay...stepped up in the pocket to make the throw...end got around Williams easily on that one.

    Damn. DA drops what should have been a TD on third and goal. Gotta have that one DA...Good god, this team is allergic to the red zone.

  • In reply to dkbat:

    As it turns out, the Bears are still the Bears of 2009. Not sure what team we were watching LAST week...

    Ron Turner is back to his usual nonsense. I mean c'mon, 2nd and 10 and you have Kahlil Bell as a receiver, Greg Olsen split out wide (which I don't think has gotten us a TD all year), and no DA on the field...

  • In reply to dkbat:

    I agree big time with the DA part...he should be on the field every time we have the ball inside the 20.

  • In reply to dkbat:

    I'm about to fall asleep during this fucking game.

    Ron Turner is proving that Monday night was a fluke.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Not helping that receivers and backs are dropping some easy ones. Still, no roll outs, nothing very creative. Same ole'.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    The bell tolls for Ron Turner...I think he's probably out having a slice of pizza, to be perfectly honest. Have they actually shown shots of him in the booth today?

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Wow. An actual clutch catch from G-Reg. Nice pass...Bears will lead at the half in a battle of two bad, mistake prone teams.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Gee, look what happens when they roll Cutler out to his right.
    GOOD THINGS.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    how wide open was forte on 2nd down???

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Seriously, after Forte scored quite a few reception TDs last year, why the heck has he not been targeted more often in the red zone? Last year he was one of the main red zone targets, is it just that Jay Cutler doesn't want to throw to him or has Ron Turner removed another effective play from the book?

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Minny up 31 zip on the Giants at half time. Have the Giants rolled over or what...

    Will be interesting to see if Minny gets the bye or not...if they get it, I can see them in the super bowl, even with the late season swoon.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    link anyone (and i have a mac, so the IE only one is no good)

    :-(

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    yea me too

    WBBM it is today im afraid

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Lions fake punt...fail. Bears get excellent field position around the Lion 35.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    TD to Aroma. Yessss!

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    so... does anyone have a link at all? Besides the radio.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    If you can use IE, then look up (@12:19PM), I posted a link that you can use. You just have to download an ActiveX control, and might have to restart your computer. But it's working for me once I did that... As always, be warned that ActiveX controls mean the possibility of getting a virus, so hopefully you have Antivirus running...

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    I'm thankful that the Lions won't have the #1 pick next year. Anyone else see Suh from Nebraska...guy is a load. Glad we won't be facing him twice a year for now on. Just hope the Rams aren't foolish enough to pick someone else...

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Lovie is a genius. Bears single cover Calvin Johnson all drive long...and, the game is now tied at 20 as Calvin catches a TD pass. Some things I will never understand...

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    if we lose this game, clean house. jerry too

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Bears answer...two deep balls from Jay (Hester and Olsen). TD pass on play action to Dez. Nice response from the O. Glad we seem to be throwing the ball downfield again.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Jay's got 3 TDs this game. I'm pretty sure that evens his TD/INT ratio.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    it does Ghost

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    And now he has more TDs than INTs this season. Wow. 27-26.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Cutler with another TD pass...to DA. Bears up 10 with about 3 minutes lefts.

    Next year...DA as #1, Knox as #2...Bennett and Hester in the slot. Any thoughts? Unless of course, this was a red shirt year for Iglesias and he doesn't suck...I'm guessing he does though.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    the DA debacle alone should cost Lovehole and Turd-ner their jobs.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Tim Shaw, 2009 Special Teams MVP...by far!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Indeed. Well done..surprised no one else picked him up before we did..

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    It would seem that Lovie did.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    That's it. Bears win. 37-23. Jay with 5 TDs (should have been 5, DAV dropped an easy one) and no picks. Forte over one yards. Both DA and Olsen with nice games. Defense...eh. Same ole.

    No more Bears football...always a sad day. Let's hope for better things in 2010...lord knows, this will be another interesting off season.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Ha. Make that Jay with 4 TDs, DA dropped an easy one, and Forte with over one HUNDRED yards. Even Bear fans are prone to dumb mistakes it seems...

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Let's do the math:

    Last 2 games - EIGHT Touchdown passes, ONE Int.

    Isn't it AMAZING what a good QB can do with DECENT protection and some SEMBLANCE of a running game.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Aside from Erik Kramer, the last Bear QB with as many as 27 TD passes in a season was.....?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If you omit Kramer, I think you'd have to go back before 1960 to find one. I don't think it's Billy Wade. Sure as hell wasn't Cade McNown in 2000.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Sid Luckman. 1943 Bears.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    But that would be in 12 games, no?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    the more i hear the guys on Chicago Sports Network the more i think that Lovie and Turner will still be here. the continuity of development being the reason.

    DA,Bennett,Knox, Hester and a FA to be named later should be our receivers next year. Olsen, Clark and Davis at tightend. Fullback probably not needed anymore. McKie is ineffective.
    Cutler will get even more in sync with DA and the boys for next year. Defense will get healthy and our LB corps will look pretty solid next year.
    I am retracting my comments that Tim Shaw won't get a contract bump. he most definitely will. it won't be Ayanbendejo money but it will be more than the minimum for sure. i will put together my end of the year synopsis after i watch the rest of the GB game.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Knox is shit against big corners, but can make hay in the slot. DA is your legit 1 WR, and Bennett can rotate with Hester at SE. Dez Clark has another year in that tank, and you have 3 solid TEs.

    As much as I would love to see Bolquin or Marshall at the 1 Wide, it isn't going to happen. Spend the coin on Logan Mankins at LG, move Beekman to Center. We see what Forte can do with an OL that can block for him. Tiny Wolfe and Kevin Jones are probably gone, and Bell is a #3. We need a pounder inside, Jones was going to be that back.

    Our FB is awful, McKie is 2nd rate. I would send Wrong Turner packing and get somebody who puts in a no FB system.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Everyone sleeps on Bennett because of the speedy flashy guys and the emergence of DA. Mark my words, Earl is an 80 catch, move the chains, reliable go to 3rd down guy for the foreseeable future.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Or we go get our original and best receiver back. Mr. Rideau, put down thsoe fries and come play for the Bears please. We're sorry. We didn't really think Iglesias was that good ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Damn it's hard being a Bears fan. They can't even *lose* when they need to. My faith in 1/4/2010 has been shaken.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    why did they need to lose? no draft position at stake here dude. Our #1 pick in the 2010 draft is Jay Cutler, our #2 is (fuuuuuuccccckkkkk) Gaines Adams

  • In reply to animal:

    To get Ron Turner fired. For sure.

  • In reply to Mastodon:

    everyone is spouting, and I tried to answer a few people but I suppose Ill spout too. All positive
    1. Lovie or not, Turner is gooooone.
    2. I like our young WRs, but Bennett moreso than most of you. He has all the tools of a solid 80 catch possession guy.
    3. Chris Williams panning out will make a HUGE difference to this team's future. Immeasurable. LT is one of the most vital and elusive positions out there.
    4. I acutally like our DBs- Tillman, Bowman and the Samoan headhunter. Need a FS.
    5. This team needs FS and Guards. Badly. Not bad need areas- think about it. The hardest to fill- QB, LT, CB- we got dudes that can play.

    Final thought- fuck Lovehole, please fire his ass now.

  • In reply to animal:

    i've been impressed with Bennett all season long. he is a good route runner, catches everything that touches his hands, breaks tackles from time to time and has a good rapport with Cutty. He is the consummate possession receiver that has better than average speed. it's exciting to have a solid guy like that.

  • In reply to animal:

    Goodnight Denver, and Kyle (all he does is win) Orton due to their 2-8 in their final 10 games. I especially love the 2 pick sixes and 3 ints overall against the Kansas City Fucking Chiefs!!! Eat it.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Saw that and was going to comment about Neckbeard/Jay Al. I still would love to have NB as our back up, but would much rather have Jay. I think if we can get a badd ass guard or two and a Boldin or Marshall next year things will get VERY interesting on O.

    Just wish my boy Mike Brown had the INTs instead of DB.

  • In reply to alott96:

    I think by Thursday we should know what 2010's going to look like. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for signs of intelligence within the Bears management.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Read that back MB ......

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Jeff,

    You are slacking. I need some brain food.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Check this:

    "While Lovie Smith dodged direct questions about his future Sunday after the Bears' 37-23 victory over the Lions, defensive tackle Tommie Harris didn't mince any words about possible coaching changes. "Don't blame it on Lovie," Harris said. "It ain't Lovie's fault. You better check out the higher sources. Everybody needs to be held accountable. Don't start pointing the blame. If we're going to start cutting, we need to start cutting from the top to the bottom. Bears ownership is unlikely to announce a decision on Smith until Tuesday, with Smith not scheduled for his usual Monday news conference."

    Tommie Harris, you are a true akademik

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Dear Nate Vasher,

    We heard your cry to the press in Detroit. You've been "100% loyal" to the Bears, and "you still have what it takes to be a starter in this league."

    Dude. A 5-year deal worth $28 MILLION dollars buys a hell of a lot of loyalty, doesn't it? Had the Bears come back with the offer they should have, a 2-year $8M deal - my guess is your loyalty may have been less than 100%. Because, and let's face it, after the 2006 season you got hurt and you haven't been worth much. A lot less than a MIL a year. Maybe the league minimum.

    You had a chance to start, you got lit up by the Packers. Lit. Up. Downtown major Brown. Goodbye Blue Sky, call the burn trauma unit, we got a class three case coming in...

    You still have what it takes to be a starter? In the CFL? I doubt the Ottawa Rough Riders would even invite you to camp.

    Look, the NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG. I don't know if it was all in the leg, or part of it was desire, or the secondary coach is really that bad (you guys looked so bad against the Bengals, with Roach not knowing which way was up, it was very sad.) but in ANY case, you need to hit the bricks, pal.

    Remember GlenGarry? Always Be Closing! To the fucking ball!

    You smoked this organization to the tune of about $16M. That's a jackpot. You hit it, and did nothing on the field in 07/08 or here in 09 to earn even one of those millions. So hit the bricks, pal. You played well for a few years, but you ain't got what it takes anymore - so don't be jawing to the press about loyalty and you still have what it takes. You do not.

    Sincerely,

    Bear FanDom

  • In reply to alott96:

    Check THIS out: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/gameflash/2010/01/03/3517_recap.html

    Check the last bit at the bottom under "Notes", here's the juicy piece.

    "Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner said he expects to be back next season."

    Now, I don't know if that's spin, obliviousness/stupidity, or just utter delusion, but I found the statement pretty funny. Buh bye moron.

  • In reply to animal:

    McDaniels feud with Marshall ended badly. Really badly.

    Orton got trampled at Invesco by the lowly Chiefs. Marshall and Sheffler the TE didn't even come to the game. The Broncos got crushed, Pat Bowlen looks like a moron (he is a moron), and the Broncos can't be happy with the season Orton gave them.

    Ha ha.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Yep, I'm glad all that Broncos starting 6-0 BS has passed on into the sewerage. He has the O-line, receivers, and still gets owned by the Chiefs. Glad we won the last two games as well. I can smell Marshall on his way to ChiTown ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    please clear this up - is there a year remaining on Wrong Turner's contract or not? I've seen people say both things.

    If these last 2 games are used as evidence to keep Ron Turner then, using the Bears same logic, these last 16 games of defensive breakdowns should be enough to get rid of Lovie, since it is his defense.

    I just don't see Lovie getting fired. We'll have Jerry, Lovie, a new O Coord, a real D Coord (not Rod Marinelli) and Lovie will be given a very short rope with a playoffs or you're out mandate. They're much more apt to each $5.5 million than $11 million.

  • In reply to BTiff:

    Completely agree with your analysis. I believe that the Bears signed Turner to a 3 year deal in 2007. If so, then you are right that there is one year remaining. Of course we are still stuck with them allowing Smith to bring in on of his own folks, and if not, the OC will have to agree with Smith all the live long day... This whole thing is somewhat nauseating. Look how many other teams out there actually have the will to win. We are unfortunately like the Oakland Raiders, caught up in living hell with out of it ownership, etc.

  • In reply to BTiff:

    Doesn't really matter Btiff. Because if Turner's still in a job next season I will sell an organ, fly to Chicago and personally explode all over him. That's a challenge for you, Delta Airlines. Is ill will detectable in an airport situation ?

  • In reply to animal:

    7-9 doesn't sound TOO bad, UNTIL you break it down:

    2-0 vs. toothless Lions.

    5-9 vs. everybody else.

    Oh, by the way, today's game was TIED in the 4th quarter so it wasn't like the Bears ran away and hid until really late.

    Sadly, I still feel ownership will see 7-9 as a reason er, an EXCUSE to keep Lovie, even though the continued excellent play of D.A. and Bell ratchets up the STINK factor on Mr. Smith for letting obvious talent languish on the sidelines for so long in positions that needed a shot in the arm from the get-go!

    That said, one would think that SOMEBODY has to take the fall for 7-9 and I believe that the much maligned Ron Turner is the fall guy.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Albert, don't forget that 3 of our wins also came against Seattle, Cleveland, and the Rams.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    According to Zach Zaidman's tweets on the score 670 web page Bears upper management will meet tomarrow morning with Smith and decide eveyone's fate. The upper management will then meet the media Tuesday or wednesday.

  • In reply to alott96:

    108 days until a third round pick!

    Woo hoo!

  • In reply to alott96:

    I hate to be the BEARer of bad news...

    ...ha ha...

    But PFT is reporting that Cowher might sit 2010 out too!

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/04/report-cowher-is-inclined-to-wait-another-year/

    As an old fart who hasn't coached anybody in 8 years, I tend to agree with this article, that Cowher should be wary of the game growing beyond him if he waits too long.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Watched INSTANT REPLAY on WGN last night and actually SAW and HEARD
    Ron Turner say, with a straight face, that he expects to be back.

    It is also my understanding that Turner has a year left on his contract.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Well, what's he gonna say? "No, I expect to have a pink slip waiting at my desk in Lake Forest." He was just waxing poetic like football coaches do with the media.

    Of all the things to criticize him for, that statement isn't one of them.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yep. Can't wait (I hope).

  • In reply to animal:

    'Twas the night before January 4
    and Lovie Smith didn't want to open the door.
    He heard the knock loud and clear,
    and, as always, had the look of a deer.
    "I know you're in there," Jerry said,
    "you burned too many timeouts, and Rivera's cred."

    please feel free to add on...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I know, Johnny Waffle. But I can't see Turner being back here. I think the point they're making is ridiculous.

    Jiggs and Jim Miller are saying that getting rid of Ron Turner will be like "wasting a season" because Cutler and the offense will have to learn a new system.

    Gimme a fucking break! That's an asinine excuse!

    Look, guys, the offense needs to be rebuilt...rebuilt around JAY CUTLER. Ron Turner isn't going to do that. Ever. Ron Turner is going to keep calling screen passes. Ron Turner is going to keep running Jason McKie on 3rd and Goal from the 2. The mainstream sports media ran with the Bears victory over the Vikings as a masterful use of rollouts and moving the pocket by Turner and Cutler. Where was that today?

    I can grit my teeth and swallow another year of Lovie Smith...ONLY...ONLY if changes are made below him. Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator, Quarterbacks Coach, O-Line Coach, Defensive Backs Coach. Some or all should be replaced.

    In my humble opinion.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Word, Ghost. I'll smile at Lovie doing long division on the sidelines for another year as long as they : fire every damn coach bar Marinelli and Toub, get an OC that uses Cutler outside the pocket or moves the pocket, get Brandon Marshall, get a guard and a safety - starters. Then he can come out with all the BS he wants,as long as we win games ...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/lovie-will-not-play-meet-the-press-on-monday.html

    hmmmm....the plot thickens

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The New York Times has recently included a 2-3 page Chicago section on Fridays and Sundays in the national edition that is printed and distributed here. The reporting is actually from something called the Chicago News Cooperative which seems to be made up of out-of-work Tribune and Sun-Times people with initial support from the MacArthur Foundation. The link below is from today's edition.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/03/sports/football/03cncbears.html

    Don Pierson is an long time sports writer so I'm surprised that when he talks about ownership he doesn't make the distinction between Virginia McCaskey as owner and her role as trustee.

    I don't know if this sheds any light on the Halas Hall decision making process but am passing it along in the spirit of sharing information.

  • In reply to Westerner:

    Just like everything that is designed by committees too large, the Bears have analysis paralysis.

    It's the worst. At least when Finks was there, he did things his way.

  • In reply to Westerner:

    I don't know, I think Jerry is going to push hard to dump Lovie. He knows it's time. Look at this defense. It's a disaster, and it's all Lovies. They have stayed status quo through 3 non-playoff seasons stuck on mediocre. If Smith comes back you're commiting yourself average.
    Dick Jauron won two of his last three games too. Mike Ditka was fired after only one losing season after making the playoffs 2 of the previous 3 seasons.
    It's time.
    PS Jay Cutler set the single season record for completions, is 2nd all time for single season yards, and 3rd all-time in td passes.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Al, the PS you wrote says it all. this kid will dominate Chicago football for years to come. 4 less INT's and we are in the fucking playoffs even with our shit defense and all of the injuries. it's going to be a fun next couple of years watching this cannon.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Jerry, Gump and Burner ahve been pointing fingers at each other all season long. Like Butters' family in South Park, flipping each other off ...

  • In reply to alott96:

    and this was a TERRIBLE season for him. what happens when he has a good one? NFL records broken? wtf....we got a gem of a player for a lot more than Idiot and Son have

  • In reply to Westerner:

    Great article. Pretty much points towards probably nothing too major happening other than turner getting airlocked ...

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Shaw causes a fumble and it's Bears ball. Ball game. Wow, Tim Shaw deserves some major props. What a special teamer he has been.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Hey hey...a Devin receiver screen that actually works for a first down. Inside the 10.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Funny, I really thought the Cutler to Hester deep ball would be a serious weapon this year...oh well.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Wow. That was weird. I've never seen an interception that looked more like a pass _intended_ for the other team. Bowman looked like a pretty decent receiver on that one.

  • In reply to underway:

    Is there a way to send private messages through here to other users? My experience has been that the more a link gets posted on forums/etc, the more likely it is to get taken down. PM'ing the links might be a better option if it's available?

  • haha. Agreed. How does a confused, misused Daniel Manning rank second on the team in tackles? Maybe Cower will figure out how to use him.

  • So, who starts where in Cower's 3-4 Defense next year? (Yes, I am dreaming here. I'm going to indulge myself.)
    Who is the dominant nose tackle? the ends? ILBs? OLBs?
    Briggs and 54 on the inside? Or do one or both move outside? Jamar? Roach? How does this look next year?

  • In reply to animal:

    I'll bite Animal.

    A revitalized and beaten into submission Tommie Harris at nose, Izzy, Harrison, and a recently acquired Osi 'Play me or trade me' Umenyiora on the outsides. In position from left outside to right: Briggs, Williams, 54, Pisa. Bowman and peanut on the corners and who knows at FS... hopefully, some new stud FA

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Hmmm... good take.
    Maybe Harrsion's fat ass can play nose? We do have a LB that can get after a QB in a huge way- 54. How about a second career as an OLB?? Speed, complex blitz schemes, he could put up Jerome Harrison like #s.
    I actually like the starting CBs of Bowman and Tillman, minus Lovie's "throw it to the holes between corner and safety all day" cover 0 zone

  • In reply to animal:

    we don't have a 3-4 nose guard and we don't have DEs for that scheme. Also, name me a LB on our team that can rush the QB. If we switch to a 3-4 add another year or two to the rebuilding effort.

  • In reply to jdawg:
  • In reply to jdawg:

    Green Bay switched this year and they have been pretty effective.

  • In reply to animal:

    Hopefully Pisa will be back.

  • In reply to animal:

    After we trade for Mr. Suh, we don't need Tommie. Harrison and Adams will do for backups ;o) Rotate Izzy, Anderson and Brown at the ends. We'd need an inside backer to go with Brian, Briggs and Williams on the outside. Hillenmeyer is not a starting MLB. If we could get Dumervil then we could move Williams inside, but we'd still need depth....

  • how about "fuck no?"

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I think that's like a 'nay', right?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    Gents, check this out... Chico being considered for the HC in buffalo.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/15393/report-bills-will-look-at-ron-rivera

    Don't know if he'd make a great HC, but I know I'd love to have him back in blue and orange as our DC next year.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sorry left out the word 'position' in that first sentence some how.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB30SD...Well deserved for him especially when LDL slapped him off like he did. I think we've all come to the conclusion LDL was afraid he'd look incompetent as a head coach and incapable of change in the D and showing he was being out done by Chico.

    Boy. LDL proved that wrong by the way the D has looked since Chico left..huh? Nice LIMP DICK LOVIE great coaching ASSMUNCH.

    As Chico being a good HC hmm. not sure? He does have the passion we have been asking for all this year and past from our D since he left.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I plan to watch today's game only because it will show what Bears front office thinks of team as it is currently structured. Hope bench creatures show something for next year. Lance Louis/Julio Inglesis please show me something!Think we're stuck with the LoveHammer for 2010. Mc Caskets are just plain cheap ass. Where's Pool Boy playing today? Hope he see's the field alot.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    1/4/10...

    Tick tock on the replacement, Jerry.

  • He's another assmunch like Gruden

  • Flawed logic, Murph. I know damn well that 54 hasn't posted a lot of sacks, but he plays a position that does not rack up that stat. I am saying, he could have new life, with his athletic talent, as an outside rusher in the Cower D. He could easily rack up 10+ sacks if that were his job.

  • Word, Doc. I'd take a receiver that can see out of a bucket though ...

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