Bates Follows Carroll to Seattle

While the talk has been that Jeremy Bates was set to interview with the Bears on Tuesday, it is not the case.

The Chicago Bears
have been informed that Jeremy Bates, who was scheduled to interview
for their offensive coordinator's job, has decided to accept the same
job with Carroll and the Seahawks, two sources told ESPN senior NFL
analyst Chris Mortensen on Sunday evening.

A source said Bates was tempted to be reunited with Bears quarterback Jay Cutler,
but the long-term security with Carroll was a major factor in his
decision to join the Seahawks rather than the Bears. Bates was Cutler's
offensive coordinator with the Broncos in 2008.

There is no job security in Chicago.  There is one year.  It is the central flaw of bringing back the entire lame duck regime.

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  • HOORAY!!!!! damn they need to clean out the whole front office except Toub. EVERYBODY!!!!

  • Fargin second. Bastidge.

  • getting pretty hard to even follow the Bears anymore.

  • In reply to Sactown:

    Not really. Depends on how much you *really* love the Bears I'd say ...

  • Good, Bates was too young and inexperienced. Lets bring in the mad bomber Martz and light shit up next year.

  • In reply to animal:

    Amen to that!

  • In reply to animal:

    I thought it was Martz's job to lose. Now that pretty much seals the deal. After reading comments from Kitna and Vermeil I feel better about Martz. Forte is no Marshall Faulk but he can catch the ball so that should be a plus. Also, a lot of the WR's were smurfs which translates well to our guys. My biggest concern is Cutler getting killed because of our shitty OL. No matter who they hire, they have to be better than Turner. If we can guess the play 75-90% of the time due to formation, down and distance, other DC's must have been at 90-95%. I'm guessing we'll stink on ice next year but at least it won't be that same predicatable offense.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to CanadaBear:

    My only confidence there is that the Vikings Dline is a pretty good litmus test for an O-line. And in round 2 Cutler had time and Williams pwned Jared Allen so... I think we are better off without a senior citizen at LT and a LT at RT... who would have thought.

  • In reply to animal:

    We get the guy who lost to the Bellicheat Patties in the big game.

    Because nobody wants to come and work with Lovie 'Dead Man Walking' Smith.

    Fucktard McCaskeys. Fucktard Phillips.

  • In reply to animal:

    That's right boys, you're finally catching on. Next year is all about not having to pay to coach's. You lose.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Reread my post. Sounds like I'm not a fan, sorry. What I meant was "we lose". From the moment Turner was fired I knew that whoever the Bears hire would have to be a 2nd tier no name OC or the Bears front office would have to go for someone they could guarantee would have Lovies job if he gets fired next year. They chose not having to pay 2 salaries of us the Fans. Bottom line, this organization doesn't have a clue.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Who in their right mind (that is actually worth a steamy dump) would come here knowing the imminent catastrophe that is the 2010 Chicago bears? Any chance this sends the mgmt. into a "Well, I guess we HAVE to fire Lovie!" type of mindset?

    Just wishful thinking...

    Beyond that, is there any faith that the Martz kamikaze system works anytime after mid-October? That is, not in a dome?

    Does said system ensure the Bears will try to pick up a top WR, or do we just have complete and utter blind faith in Aromatherapy to be the next Marshall?

    As I've said before - TRADE THE DEAD WEIGHT!

    Bye Hester. Bye Olsen. Bye Forte. Bye Butters. Bye Gurlacher.

    Hello WR, FS, and DE.

    Damn this wishful thinking. I guess it's all we got.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    It's not Aromatherapy, it's Shabba-Dabba-Doo. Get with the program.

    Hester is not dead weight. He is the best return specialist in the NFL, a prize so highly valued that Neon Deion extended his career solely based upon it.

    Olsen is not as good as Jason Whitten or Tony G, but he's a solid 2nd TE, as witnessed by what he can do when paired with a healthy Dez Clark. In one TE sets, he's not powerful enough to run block to the level needed. But he causes headaches when he lines up as the 2TE, and then slides out into the slot, making a SS try and cover him. This works especially well close to the goal line.

    Forte is not dead weight. He ran hard with what is now known as a tweaked MCL. You try running with one of those. Just the fact he was out there when Jones and Wolfe and AP all went down is a testament to how gutty and team first the kid is.

    Butters is a character in South Park. Butter Harris is soft in the heat, but is dealing with a much more serious knee injury than any of us were told about. He is a head case, but when he's 100%, he's what Adams and Harrison will never be. Mostly muscle 300lber with crazy explosiveness and the ability to jump pulling guards before they arrive.

    Urlacher is a girl. I will give you that one.

    Oh, and Ayn Rand was a russian whore with a dipship philosophy predicated on 'greed is good'. I should think the fact that her main disciple, Alan Greenspan, wrecked the fucking economy should dissuade you from being a fanboy. But based on your Bears knowledge, wtf, makes sense.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Hey, your liberal bullshit is showing again. Cut it out.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    For purposes of this debate, "Liberal" means " reality".

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    Sorry, broke my own rule. Damn.

  • In reply to number1ninja:

    man -- its getting a little heated in here. I'm a lifelong Bears fan and am pissed about this past season but last time I checked nobody in the front office, McCaskey family or coaching staff skull-fucked my dog.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    lol it's all a release brother. at the end of the day, the Chicago Bears aren't responsible for my livelihood, so it only goes so far. just pried talking....and at times, to swallow your pride b/c of idiot moves is....well....a lotta hard to do.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    I own Forte and Hester jerseys... and I have no qualms about sending them to the bottom of the hamper a la Mike Brown if it means we can get someone like.... Mike Brown. Well, a Mike Brown who actually plays.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    I believe a Mike Brown who actually plays will be a UFA this off season.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Why are we always last team to pull the fucking trigger? The managment calls it assessing, being patient, thinking it through, evaluating everything at the end of the year. I call it letting good coaches and good players slip through our hands. This passive stance has made Chicago the opposite of an ideal destination for most. No good talent wants to come here anymore. The loser Seahawks canned Mora after 1 year and ate his 12 million dollar contract. I consider myself somewhat of a patient fan, but 3 years of mediocrity and under-performance is enough. Can't do it, won't do it. It's hard to root for a team that isn't trying to stay up to speed and competitive anymore.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Word has it that the Pats immense Nose Tackle Vince Wilfork is going to be on the blocks this off season. Uhhhh, yes please.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Yes and yes MB. That dude is a bohemith. We need some gap cloggers in the middle to be succesful. As much as I love Izzy, with him losing all that weight, he became less of a force as a tackle. We need some Traylor and Washington type bodies to push the pocket to the outsides and to make QBs have to move. Harris has been talked about and is the biggest question mark on the team. I heard the other day he's only 26...based on his play and knees I thought he was 30ish. If we get a big body next to him, maybe he come's back to form.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Back in the '05 draft we had a choice between V. Wilfork and T. Harris, and because of the 4-3 philosophy, where more emphasis is put on speed over size, the decision to select Harris was made.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Don't remember the draft Viva, but, Lovie fell in love with small and quick defenders just as much as he did with his scheme. It works at most defensive positions, but not always at the tackle spot. We need to beef up the middle in my opinion.

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    it's beginning to look more and more like another clusterfuck for next year. Yet again the fans are getting screwed over. We all understand a new regime is coming in 2011, but at the expense of 2010. We're destined to be 8-8 at best. At least JC and DA will build a little chemistry next year.

    There's no way in hell I'd wanna be the Bears O Coord this season. Martz just wants a payday and a shot at interviewing for Lovie's job.

    Hopefully Lovie and his butt buddies will be so bad at coaching next season that he'll get shitcanned DURING the season. Jerry will then name himself interim head coach. Why not? His ass is gone at the end of the season too, why not have fun!

  • In reply to PhantomOne:

    Lovie better choose his friend as OC soon. I just recieved my order of 500 "Martz Shartz on Offense" Ts for next year.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Ha! Very nice Crown.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    so are we gonna have The Greatest Show on Something Resembling An NFL Caliber Grass Surface But It Really Sucks And Everyone Knows It?

  • In reply to BTiff:

    it's time for field turf. not that 7 inch long shit they played on in 2000 at Illinois but the short field turf that allows the fastest dudes of all time like Hester and Knox to fly around the field.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Izzy was amazing against the Vikes. Blocked XP and a strip ? from reduced looks ? That'll do for me.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Izzy has been great at blocking kicks for years and a specials beast. He is not the best tackle though. Average at best at run stopping and didn't get much pressure on QBs on passing plays. That definitely will not do at tackle for me. Don't mind him in the rotation some, but we need some meat up front starting besides Tommie. And Harrison didn't meet up to expectations this year after the gaining weight drama at camp. That vet Willfork dude on NE would be nice. Maybe then Tommie won't be doubled as much and get by his man once in a while or clog the middle better. Lovie ruined Izzy's chance at being successful at tackle when he told him to lose all that weight in the off-season. Again, shows how Lovie has fallen in love with the quick and light defensive player versus the fat and powerful one. A prototype that doesn't always work on da D line.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    In todays Chitown paps...

    One NFL executive said on Tuesday night the search for an offensive coordinator was heading in one direction: desperate Mike Martz to the desperate Bears.

    ''They'll try to sell it as a home run, but everyone knows what it really is,'' the executive said.

    It's going to be another St Lou Ram flunkie, Mad Mikey Martz. How great is that! Mikey is someone Lovehammer thinks can save his sorry ass and not get the Bears head coaching position after he get's gunned this time next year. Loveballs is done( do corpses really live on after death?) and we all have the pleasure of watching it happen. And it will happen. Bears will be 8-8 2010. That's just peachy...Oh note to Bears. If you plan to bring in MM Twice(little Mushin Mohammed slang fer ya)understand this. Your gonna need to replace that so called city/union cut/maintained grass crapola at the stadium real quick. Get something like Giants have. FieldTurf. Get on that Ginny will yah!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And we have a linebacker that Bellicheat would love. We can snow him into thinking urlacher is the next Teddy B.

    Ok, no we can't - but we could hope.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    They love it don't they ? Seymour, Vrabel, Wilfork ...

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    A strong possibility of three different OC in three years should really help the development of Cutler and other young players, especially the receivers. Momma always says, "stupid is as stupid does".
    The defensive players will have an easier adjustment - don't tackle anyone and don't guard anyone.
    Was Lovie Smith coaching the Packers defense yesterday? They gave up the slant pass ALL DAY!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    JC thought Turner was a moran.

    So - while constant change builds no rappore, it's better to change to what your incredibly expensive franchise QB with more talent than we've seen around here in 20 years wants, then stick him with a dipshit who thinks the Hester screen will work if we just try it a few more times...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The same guy who said, "We're running the same offense we did five years ago" and thought that was a good thing, by the way. Right on.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Read this article about the total clusterfuck back stabbing over at the Seahawks:

    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/01/ex-seahawks-president-scolded-jim-mora-for-supporting-mike-holmgren/1

    Now try and imagine Angelo sending that text to Lovie if Lovie supported Phillips.

    We have idiots but no drama. The Seahawks - they got the drama.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    we're in the same boat as Oakland:

    until either ownership changes or the owner dies, the management will forever be a laughingstock. smh this is bullshit

  • In reply to gpldan:

    LOL ! I like it Gpl. The only dude I wouldn't have the slightest hesitation in trading is Olsen. Everyone else is, or was, awesome at something. I hope that was a misprint about Urlacher being a girl BTW ;o) We can't replace him, especially not with a Ducheyne like Hillenmeyer for a backup. Harris *could* come back healthier/better - and our tackle situation is not good with Tommie off the roster, ditto Forte. Regarding Matt Handsome, we need to cut him a break playing with a sprained MCL all season long. If they don't put Hester back as return man, then what's the point of keeping his $7 million tush on the roster ? I've seen his tush. It ain't worth $7M a year unless he's going downtown 7 or 8 times a game and pulling one of them in.

    P.S. I called for Tommie's head a million times and now I'm a wuss. Only way I'd trade him is towards getting us the first pick of the draft. Would anyone else give up Harris and Hester for the Rams first pick ?

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Still can't reply -

    So here goes:

    1) It is what I say it is. I prefer Aromatherapy. Smells like team spirit.

    2) Hester WAS a good return man. Now he's just a big contract who is entirely too scared to get hit... and also the inventor of the 5-step spin move. Get rid of him. I'll take Manning, Bennett, and Know for returns if it means getting a real DE or FS out of the deal.

    3) I like Forte, but we don't need him. We can get away with Bell. Trade him while he's worth something. Maybe that won't be until next year.

    4) Olsen - First it was dropped passes... Then it was just plain terrible heartless play. Once again - trade him while he may have a value. We can do without him. We cannot do without some resemblance of a solid defense.

    5) I'd take Butters over Butter anyday. He COULD be worth a damn if he played/tried, as evident in the few games where he did both. Regardless, he's a Lovie backing prima donna. Trade him before that injury goes permanent.

    6) Urlacher - we agree to agree.

    7) Ayn Rand is a Russian whore. We see eye to eye on that... But man, can she deep throat. The only tenet of Rand's that I agree with is that handicapping those with ability is detrimental to society. She never fathoms the effect of greed, and therefore (like Greenspan) HAS screwed up the economy. Atlas Shrugged was the worst book I ever managed to get 300 pages through before using it to hide my stash...

    Basically, we have gaps to fill and no draft picks. If the Bears don't make moves in FA, then maybe we should consider some of these players as "disposable" and get a few players we need.

    So... Do we expect your Shabba-Dabba-Do to be the next Marshall or should we start looking for players that other teams might have an interest in? That was the question.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    trade Forte? damn....your moves could rival Matt Millen. smh.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    For sure, an RB roster of Bell, Wolfe and AP (who knows about Jones...) doesn't inspire confidence...plenty of good RBs out there this year. Plenty.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Oh, if THAT was the question...

    We expect Shabba-Dabba-Doo to have Marshall like ability without the dire need to be a TO and make everything about him. If, as another poster listed, Steve Breaston is actually a UFA (this I don't know) then Breaston-Shabba would be as deadly as Fitz-Breaston-Doucet is, since I feel JC has all of Warner's arm, most of Warner's head, and much better than Warner like mobility and toughness. And Warner seems fucking determined to make a run that gets him first ballot. He threw more TOUCHDOWNS than INCOMPLETIONS (5 vs. 4) against the Packers.

    That is just sick.

    So, in short - Shabba is filling one half of the equation - but none of us think Hester is the other half, nor can Knox and Bennett draw the double team reliabity. Each of them have serious weaknesses that Breaston or Boldin don't. Knox gets pushed around by strong corners, despite doing a pretty good job with Charles Woodson, and Bennett just does not have burner speed.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Fkn A, Gpl. Need a bookend for Shabba. Seeing Tory Holt and Woodson break down Darelle Revis on Total Access was enlightening. They showed how easy it is to completely disrupt and dominate a smaller receiver at the LOS and fall back into the optimal route by simply shoving the receiver's outside shoulder. Bigger corners and bigger receivers are not just trendy, they're the future of the NFL. Angelo thought that D.J. Moore, at 4'6", was a corner that could fit our band of Bears. Luckily, he's the genius who will be rebuilding our roster this off-season. Mmm. I'm still waiting for them to say they'll try Moore out as a receiver. I swear to God that would be so Gumpangelo. Melton as a kick returner and Moore as our split end, I can just tsee the press conference now, with reporters unable to contain their genuine guffaws at the desperation. Is there a psyche in upper management that says "Angelo drafted this guy, therefore there must be talent *somewhere* in his body - find it ! Find out what position this guy is supposed to play !" ?

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    We need a #1 receiver, and not a midget #1 receiver. It's probably our single biggest need as a team. We can fill in and around a position lacking a legit stud with regards to free safety. But at receiver we have to get it done. Shabba-Dabba looks like a prospect that will produce. But he's one man on one side of the field, where's the other ..?
    Angelo patently failed to improve the receiver position last year, so it needs priority now ....

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    2) "Know" should have been "Knox" - I'd hate to get shit for THAT typo. Might get crucified for things like that...

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    I've written 'Johnny Know' a heap. Only a fucking chimpanzee can get to the 'X' with their thumb. He'll always be 'Johnny Know' to me ... until whenever we switch him to kicker.

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Hmm have you ever watched them play? Hester I would agree with he hasnt returned one in 2 seasons and is no loss as a wideout, Olsen.. why would we get rid of our only young startable TE? Kellen Davis is no better at run blocking and is not as fast. Forte... Urlacher... Did you watch any of the 2009 season? This team in this scheme without Urlacher = 7+ losses guaranteed, and even though Matty had a rough year who do put in there to replace him? And not to mention the fact that your position math leaves us without a starting RB, MLB, TE and someone named Butters. Yah I bet we'd be real good with none of those positions.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Whoa, hold the horses man.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtRa0OFCTwY

    Watch that and dig it. It's the only video 'evidence' I know of - I wish I had the games on computer. Why would we get rid of Olsen ? Because he hurts the team. He drops too many passes (especially on third down), doesn't show up all day long and catches his bi-gamely TD when the game is over. Blocks like a bitch. Like. A. Bitch. Got promoted to be starting TE because ....? Kellen Davis is a WAY better blocker. I saw him flatten someone this year, and then he flattened another guy straight away. You'll never see the *first* guy go down with Flowers Olsen. Davis is 6'7 ... a monster target for Cutler ... uncoverable .... solid blocker, deserves to start over Olsen (Dez is another matter...) Tight End is a *very* deep position in FA with WR. About two thirds of the league have their TEs becoming FAs by the looks of it. Scheffler and marshall are on McTard's shit list. Let's go get them if we had any balls. McTard would probably poo his pants if we offered him Olsen and Hester (whom we're wasting anyway) for Scheffler and Marshall with a lower pick thrown in. ..

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    DE ? We've got more linemen than a mofo. Has anybody forgotten the hole at LG ? That's not fixed. And what's the deal with Shaeffer ? Is he our RT of the future ? I'd like to see a quality guard, FS and tall WR, but we have more chance of finding tits on a bull with Jerry Angelo doing the hunting ...

  • In reply to JohnGalt:

    Albert that used to be the rule. Apparently a couple of years ago, there were wars breaking out for position coaches so the NFL changed it's rules and now a team can refuse permision unless it is for a head coaching vacancy.
    The latest out of profootballtalk.com is that Lane Kiffin will be the new USC coach. That leaves the Tennesse job open, and if I recall last year they were interested in Lovie Smith. This could be a dream situation where Smith decides to walk away on his own. A boy can dream!

  • In reply to alott96:

    Sorry but that would be backing into a scenario. I don't know about you but I want my team to have the balls to talk to Cowher, cut a deal and then can the coach and tell him to take his babitch with him.

  • In reply to alott96:

    this could mean Monte Kiffin is available too......

  • In reply to alott96:

    If that's true then you know Fewell will be heading to NY. It would be a no brainer. Ok, who's next?

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    the Bears have a coach named Bob Babich who might be interested.....

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Great news! This is what the arrogent McCaskeys need. Their top candidate refuses to even interview because they went cheap and kept on a lame duck coach.

    Hopefully Fewell will do the same. VERY unlikely, but there is STILL a chance that Lovie will be fired after they realize this idea is blowing up in their face.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I bet they land Tom Clements QB coach of the packers as their 1 yr OC. It's the "safe," choice which also means it's the cheap choice. Totally a bears move.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Why would Clements come in and coach against GB for a lame duck coach, especially given how his rep skyrocketed after yesterday's game. Face, he's done a great job with Rodgers and I can't see him jumping ship to coach against GB twice a year. That is, unless he's offered a lot of money, which he won't be.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Good for Bates.Would you work for Paul Allen or Virginia McCaskey of the Depression Era?

    Tough call

  • In reply to animal:

    National media says three of these four guys will get picked for the PF-HOF:

    Don Coryell, Richard Dent, Cris Carter and Shannon Sharpe

    Who is the odd man out?

    That one is easy for anybody who actually watched these players play. Cris Carter.

    Carter was a one trick pony, the jump ball in the back of the endzone. That was it. By the standard of allowing Carter in, then Willie Gault gets in. Dennis McKinnon gets in.

    Never has one player done so much politics for his career after it was over. At least Cris Collinsworth tells the truth: he was no more gifted than Ed McCaffery or any other big white guy with hands. He was not in Steve Largent's class. He was in Ricky Proehl's class, i.e. not a HOF player.

    I will puke if Carter gets in over Dent. Dent was the most dominant true DE of the era. The only one as feared was LT, and he was a OLB in a hybrid 3-4 scheme. Dent was a Super Bowl MVP. How many defensive ends get to be MVP??

    I will never visit Canton again if Carter gets in, this round or any other round. His career got extended by having Moss on the other side, so he drew single coverage everywhere he went. It's just sad.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Leave a comment...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I don't know man ... 2nd in receptions when he retired, 130 TDs ... that's getting it done bigtime. Don Coryell ? Claim to fame : He inspired Ron Turner.....

  • In reply to animal:

    Hmmm, I wonder why his scheme worked in St. Louis but absolutely nowhere else...and besides Detroit, I don't think talent has alot to do with it.

    We talked about it back mid-season.

  • In reply to animal:

    It will be Martz by default. Who would want to come in and coach with Lovehammer, Bears Own "Dead Man Walking". 8 wins max next year. Move on people...nothing to see here.

  • In reply to animal:

    Yep, THAT is hot hot that Bears' OC position is. A guy they wanted didn't even LISTEN TO AN OFFER before saying "No, thanks."

    What is that odor?
    Damn! Viking troll.
    I guess there's just no house-breaking them.
    Did you leave the back door open gpldan?

  • Well, guys on a blog figured out that no one would want to come to Chicago because of the lame duck situation but the PRESIDENT, OWNER, GM and McCaskey family couldn't figure it out. Then we got rid of our OC. We actually have to take Martz right now. He is the only prick big enough to have the balls to come in knowing that he has to do it in one year or he's gone. Switch to field turf, install the greatest show on turf: Chicago edition then sit back and watch the defense come back to form.

  • I called this one early on. Clements was denied permission to talk to the Bears. Of course - what idiot on the Bears ever thought that Clements would come here? Two for two on turndowns so far.

    This organization continues to embarass itself in front of the whole league. And I love it! It's the ONLY way they will change.

    Still holding out hope that the realize the only thing to do is fire Lovie. Or will they wait until Cowher is signed somewhere?

  • In reply to BillW:

    I don't think that you can assume that Bates was the first choice, and Clements was the second choice. Actually, I think Martz is the primary choice, the guy that Lovie wants, and probably the guy that will come here. I agree that Lovie and Jerry should be gone, and will be gone after another mediocre season. But, simply because the 3rd or 4th coordinator that the PRESS believes the Bears should interview does not necessarily translate to the team's view of the situation.

  • In reply to BillW:

    don't know if you guys read this one by Morrissey, but I found it pretty funny... and pretty true to what we've all been talking about since black tuesday: http://www.suntimes.com/sports/morrissey/1983959,CST-SPT-morrissey11.article

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    MB...I thought the " stubborn as tree stump" verbage was great!!! hahahaha

  • In fact, remember that Angelo said the OC was THE MOST IMPORTANT decision he's made since HC? OK - you're first two choices turned you down Jerry! So at best you'll get the third choice - and somehow convince the fans that it was the right one all along??

    This is sad, funny, frustrating, insane...

  • What does DBB think of my game plan:

    Go after Logan Mankins of NE in FA first.
    Go after Wilfork of NE using Urlacher in trade
    Go after Steve Breaston in FA

    Use the 3rd round pick on a OG
    Use the 4th round pick on Juice Williams:
    http://www.nfldraftdog.com/2010-nfl-draft/Juice-Williams.html

    Carry 3 QBs into camp, look to install a Wildcat set with Juice, a Chicago kid who would play his heart out for the Bears...

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP,

    I was with you all the way until Breaston, which isn't a bad pick in the least, I just think a Floyd or a Naanee might be the better FA selection (they are both 6'4" or 6'5").

    Second, Juice Williams??? Really. I went to the link and here were his, "weaknesses: Inconsistency, decision making, spread offense, accuracy.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Despite what Andy Reid says, they are showing McNabb the door. Warner is hanging it up after this run, he's leaving ALL on the field (witness his SCREAMING at Doucet during the Packers game, I had never seen him go off like that) and McNabb is going to have an agent that says "hey, Fitzgerald needs somebody to throw him the ball." McNabb already lives in AZ in the offseason. He's a Card next year.

    Which means Kolb is the future. No way is he obtainable.

    Nobody wants Vick the Prick. Reid caught the Cowpokes off guard when he allowed Vick to air it out on them, but that's it. I don't think he's nearly as physical and certainly not as fast as he used to be. Keep Caleb around for if JC goes down, but Williams at 3rd string with a Wildcat package - come on - with our receivers - it just makes sense to have a Wildcat package. It allows a change up near the goal line when JC's decision making is at its worst. Williams doesn't have to carry the team, he just needs to be a credible run/pass threat and force the opposition to scheme him. For that role, he would be great, he's a big guy, but more mobile and a better pure runner than Culpepper, McNabb or even Vick ever were.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP very creative thinking - I like that... but I'm not sold. Just my $.02

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Follow-up question on the Pack refusing permission to talk to Clements for the OC position...

    It's been my understanding that NFL teams CAN NOT refuse permission for teams to talk to assistants IF the job offered represents a promotion. Ergo, if the Bears want Clements as QB coach, Green Bay is within their right.However, is not OC a clear PROMOTION from QB Coach?

    What's up with that?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al..knowing how the BEARS Management can FU!@#!#K UP a one car funeral..

    I imagine TP with the reciever in hand near his ear and LDL & JA over his shoulders whispering repeat after me "Is Jeremy Bates there? " We are looking for a QB Coach" and on the other end.. GB saying you have the wrong number Ted..pregnant pause... as he looks back to JA & LDL. Then LDL says "shit ..timeout"... you dialed the wrong number numbnuts! another pause...as they pussie slap each other in the background, and then LDL has a brain fart and says to JA can we challenge this conversation with GB and ask for Clements as the OC? and then in a deeped faked voice Ted says" calling Dr. Fine , Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine.... and as we fade to black there is Moe,Curly and Larry just satisfied with themselves as always...

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Specific to this situation Al, I read that they couldn't refuse the interview if it was for the HC position, but anything sub-HC and they were allowed to block it.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4664053/giants-may-lure-fewell-away-from-bears

    Giants may steal Fewell. Why not take the Giants job for a 3 year contract? It'd be better than risking a 1 and done situation with the Bears.

    We're not going to get any coaches we want. Hopefully management gets this message. Just let Cowher know now that he can begin preparing his staff and measuring drapes for his new office.

  • In reply to BTiff:

    Please Jebus. Can you imagine?

    Never going to happen though.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    this just slapped the shit outta me @ work:

    http://theredzone.org/BlogDescription.aspx?EntryId=2416

    premise: "Kampman could leave the Packers"

    cut Wale, bring in Kampman....1 problem solved. and he's STILL YOUNG!!!! damn....Bears need to gift-wrap this one and have his ass work out yesterday.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FQD..The phrase "Big Contact" is one problem that worries me..seeing the Bears in the area of "pulling the trigger" and trying not to shoot themselves in the foot that is the real problem..

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FQD, Kampman obviously hates the 3-4 system, but his major knee injury worries me. Tommie is young too (26), but we've seem how old his knees make him look. He'd still be an upgrade over what we have at DE if he's somewhat healthy but the price tag might be too big for such a question mark.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    the way i see it, he has 2 choices:

    1) prove that he can even be on the field and take a fair market deal
    2) stick to that 3-4 that has obviously paid dividends

    couldn't hurt to test the waters....no harm. no foul. and upgrade from wale's shitty season...smh.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    FQD...agree about putting it out there..but we cannot even get out shit together for coaches. What a CF!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Dude...Juice Williams...REALLY???? The guy has NEVER performed when it mattered. Angelo has enough problems with the draft without spending a 4th round pick on this loser. Why not go all the way and just sign Vick...he's a UFA.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    so you want a 3-4 NT, wait the 3-4 NT and you want to trade away a 4-3 mike; thus making both teams worse and both players having to make a complete system change in their waning years..... that would be the most epic fail of a trade in history.

    Breaston is a RFA unless their is a CBA. We don't have high enough picks to get any RFA.

    and Really a QB for 4th screw the needs in the secondary lets blow 2 years #1s a #3 and two years #4s on QBs. (Orton was a #4 so I'm lumping that in.) Did you watch Juice throw the ball? I'd prefer seeing what Forte can do with a pass rather than spending a pick on a guy I know can't throw it.

  • Forgive the triple post - but the more I think of it, the stranger the feeling gets. Seriously - they are screwing this up so bad that even the most die-hard fans (like me) are wishing for failure. It's the only solution. The hatred of the organization is goign to trump the love of the team - and the fans at the games next year are going to BRUTAL with a real lack of patience.

    I hope the players understnad that it's NOT directed at them - it's really direct at the Three Stooges.

  • Its becoming more obvious with each passing day that the Bears have already conceded next season. If this were not the case, Cowher would be head coach of the Bears and Lovehead would be having coffee with Marvin Lewis giving advice on how to waste challenges more efficiently.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Agreed. They will do what they must to just choke through next season and come out an average, non playoff team on the other side. Not a fun season to look forward to.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    oh, and for all

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Would you be this fired up MB?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwxhEu-nkys

    It's sometimes the stupid shit in life sometimes.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    DAMNIT ..crown how did you get me on you tube..hahaha

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    Based on your passion on da site, I know you were going just as ape shit. I certainly was. I was in Dublin at the only bar that had the game on at around midnight I think. I jumped on my girl roommate and knocked her down.

  • In reply to nicholsra:

    hmmm... the one day in the last year I'm home sick and there's not much traffic on Da Blog to keep me entertained.... AND it's 73 and sunny outside right now. Damn it!

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    FU its 12 here.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Hahahahaha... are you serious FTW? Damn, I don't envy you guys.

    Every time you need a little pick me up at work FTW, visit this site: http://www.wavewatch.com/Live-Surf-Cams-Region.php?CamID=10&RegionID=8

    That's one of the spots I surf. Maybe it will help a bit.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Nice Crown. That guy went totally apeshit. Funny.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    sadly, the happiest i've been as a bear fan since January 1986 was that 9 second dash

  • In reply to soudes:

    Signed myself out of hospital to watch the game, signed myself back in the next day. It was worth it, what a memory. The ridiculous Devin Hester ....

  • In reply to soudes:

    Does anyone REALLY care who the OC is ? I mean, you can't dance if you ain't the got the moves, right ? As long as it's not Ron Turner, we've already won the lottery. Whoever gets the job they know it comes with the proviso, run it and roll Jay out now and then ....

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Back away from the ledge -- all is not lost.

    At the same time, everyone needs to realize that there will be no FAs of impact this off-season. The names I see popping up over and over again will be RFAs, and we don't have anymore draft picks to give.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Jdawg..jump baby..jump..hahaha

  • In reply to jdawg:

    Next year is a true "sacrifice" year; one more step backwards so we can finally get off this road on on to a better one.

  • In reply to jdawg:

    JD, not true at all sir.

    Don't know about guards and FSs (although I know of at least 2 vet FSs), but I know for sure there will be a wealth of WR UFAs next year. At least two from the Charger's stable alone.

    If JA can pull his head out of his arse for one season, I think we can do some really good things with FAs this off season - barring all the CBA crap of course.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    there will most likely be no resolution until after the draft for a new contract, the big "kicker" that was supposed to make owners really want a new cba by now was this:
    Now since there is no new CBA, along with all the other non cap years rules, no team that is in the final eight of this years playoffs, so none of the teams left now, can aquire any FA without releasing one first. That's it. And players won't go down to 50/50 with the owners so we are possibly looking at no football in 2011, it's one of the major issues no big move were made by the Bears this year with new coaching, it is actually a smart business move.

  • O.K.... I will not multiple post this time..Multiple thought One thread.......sorry about previous multiples..

    1. At first I thought the LDL's Jumbotron antic's where just caused by his poor choices as a coach, hoping for the answer as if he were a child looking up at the chalkboard thinking the teacher maybe smarter then he/she. I now realize that this comatose action has been from the top down, this is true "Trickle Down".

    2. Management looks closely at your(coaching staff) reaction and actions upon the moment. The Proverbial "It's important to the Franchise" is a joke, just as calling a time out and then a challenge flag moments after, prove to me the consistency of inept of proffesionalisim in this organization.

    3. Choices of Character ..I find this the most damning of things.. now don't get me wrong all these gentlemen are as we say "Gentlemen" but that does not translate into great or even good coaching. It is difficult to see quality when you are in capable of judging quality, or even understanding quality. This is what has transpired since "Canary Sweater Boy" has had the reigns on this "CRAZY TRAIN".

    4.Waiting for the Answer?... Now in life there are times to allow you choices to come from a deeper power and then, there is the choice of waiting until it is to late and then the bus flatens you like roadkill. I have never completely understood this until now.

    5. "Lame Duck"....wow..I don't even know where to begin. Boys and Girls this will be one of the darkest of times. I understand that the clearing is within reach and the light is at the end of the tunnel. I find it sad that this is where we are at and this is what we have become.

    6. I really don't blame our Gladiators..yes some may have short comings but over all, they are lost lambs going out to slaughter and they know it. This coaching staff with it's Ideology is piss poor. The bend not break does not work. We've seen it 7-9 proves it. The self inflicting wounds and then blaming others for inflicting those wounds..wow...!

    7. I will Bear DOWN!!! WE WILL BEAR DOWN!!! Having the opportunity to go to see summer practices of the Bears when I was wide eyed youngster and getting to see those gladiators of that time.....man priceless... That is why I am a Bear Fan and always be...

    I know it is hard for all of us to fathom how low this club can go but, we will get through it and hopefully changes in 2011 will give us more faith than we have now.

    BEAR DOWN!!!!

  • Max,

    Nice to see you. I have to be honest and say that it

  • Yep, was just asking for more of his thoughts more often.

    I get I'm a newbie.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Max was here before me and has shown that he is a die hard. So, I don't give him shit. But, I agree with you MB.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    So, Bear fans, things COULD be worse.

    You COULD be a Tennessee Vols football fan.

    "Et tu, Lane?"

    That was a knife-in-the-back job worthy Marcus Brutus and the boys who stuck it to Julius Caesar!

    Oh, by the way,that crash you heard was the Tennessee recuiting class bolting for the door.

    I haven't seen it yet, but I understand there priceless video of Urban Meyer getting a text that could only be along th elines of "Hey Urban, guess who just took the USC job?"

    The NCAA (National Cash Acquiring Association) should stop pretending they aren't just another huge, for-profit, corporation or that they somehow care about education, ethics "student- atheltes" and such.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    BaM -
    I've wondered why the media isn't making a big deal of this too; it was VERY predictable that they'd whiff on OC and DC choices due to Lovie being a lame duck. The arrogence of them saying "we won't have to contact people, they will contact us" is blowing up in their face.

    I'm sure the media has prepared articles and they've agreed to wait until Fewell makes it official and THEN they will hit it hard.

    I am hopeful, aws I've posted before, that this will be portrayed as another McGinnis embarrassment and the Bears will need to save face (after all the insincere apologies to fans via emails and newspaper ads and the arrogence of that press conference circus).

    Cowher is waiting. I think he knows he represents "significant change" and can really excite the city.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Peter King, explained...

    http://czabe.blogspot.com/2010/01/give-monkey-blog-and.html

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Brilliant Al. King is allll about douchebagery.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    And coffee.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I have to give my brain a rest from the ridiculous coaching fiasco going on outside Halas Hall, so I got curious last night and did some fact checking about WRs. Our biggest receiver seems to be Arosh at 6

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    sheite... sorry for the double post.

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    I'm there with you, MB. Don't forget Rideau was 6'3, scored four touchdowns from his first five passes in camp, right ? Didn't drop a ball. Cut to make way for Iglesias. Don't need receivers like Rideau do we ? Much better to have shorter, slower receivers who drop the ball like Iglesias. I fucking Angelo and his mental draft picks. No reason we shouldn't upgrade a poor position for us. Between Denver and San Diego, we should get our own monster. Boldin's a good receiver but at 6'1 we don't need another of those. I can't understand why we wouldn't be throwing Kellen Davis jump balls every third play at 6'7, but there you go ...

    Is Ramses Barden any good, does anyone know ?

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    i officially give up. this coaching fiasco is similar to getting rid of Mike Brown without having a capable replacement. Now we are getting rid of a coach without having the scenario in place to bring in someone we actually want. change for the sake of change is not intelligent and it is going to hurt us. i hope this only sets us back years instead of 4-5. i will still watch but this is not shaping up really well. The boys are going to have to do it all on their own next year without improved coaching. Please God, no fucking injuries so we can at least go 9-7.

  • Hey Doc. Nearly, my friend, nearly :o) A gobshite has to be a person. If it was coming out of their mouth it would be referred to as either 'shite' or 'bollocks'. As in "Jaysus, that fella' talks some shit/ is full of shite!" ("Good Lord ! The veracity of that fellow's dictum is highly dubious !") or "Jaysus, he talks some bollocks, that fella")

    For some real rarities in the usage of the English language, one invariably has to go to Ireland - where we showed the English how to use it properly ;o) Anyone interested in what happened to the English language AFTER it left England ... visit www.slang.ie

    I've recorded some of the Dublin sayings for prosperity under the tag 'Quinny', but there are sayings from every county in Ireland. Priceless, if you have some time to kill ...

  • If Fewell takes the Giants job, I think Haugh in the Trib and the Sun-Times guys start writing stories about how nobody wants to come here to work with Lovie. Because they know he can't stand to be challenged (Chico Effect) and how anybody knows the whole regime is gone once Ginny and the Pets (little Elton John humor there) figure out what the CBA is going to mean to how much money they get from this cash cow called the Chicago Bears.

  • Well...

    This whole 'nobody is Lovie's friend anymore' and 'Dead Man Walking' still doesn't match USC hiring Lane Kiffin instead of Jack Del Rio.

    How much balls does it take to have the AD hold a press conference and say OUT LOUD "Jack is our man" and then KNOWING IT IS ABOUT TO BE A LIE, just walk off and announce via memo that it's Kiffin.

    Read this:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_rosenberg/01/13/usc/

    Fucking A. The Pac 10 should kick USC out. They aren't even faking it anymore. The big programs are hiring the MOST corrupt coaches, i.e. Saban - because the schools want to win more than they want anything, even if it means buying the Reggie Bushes of the world outright.

    The NCAA stands for No Cojones About Alabama.

    Sad.

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