Audibles From the Long Snapper

Brandon Marshall: Out in Denver?
BM is in great shape and preparing for this weekend's Pro Bowl to be the last game he plays in a Denver Broncos' helmet.  Marshall will be trade bait come early March and should fetch a sum that includes a number one draft pick.  While we'd all love to see the Bears get involved, there may just be too many competitive teams with a number one (Baltimore, Miami) for it to happen.  That begs the question: do the Bears have anybody on the roster that might interest Denver?

Jeremy Bates Salutes Jay
Vaughn McClure has some interesting and inspiring quotes from Jeremy Bates on Jay Cutler.  But the part that interested me is the conclusion:

Pressed about the
Bears' situation, Bates refused to bite. He was scheduled to interview
in Chicago until agreeing to remain with Carroll.
 
"I'm not
going to get involved with what took place,'' he said. "I'm really
excited about going to Seattle. Coach Carroll is a great coach, and he
put together a great staff. I'm excited about going to work in
Seattle.''

What did take place?  I was under the assumption that Bates never met with the Bears regarding the position.  Are there gaps that have yet to be filled in?

Three Quick Things...
(1) Pisa Tinoisamoa is coming back to Chicago next season and that's a good thing based on the flashes he showed early in the year.  (2) Olin Kreutz is having major surgery that will require a multi-month recovery.  I think it's time to let that ship sail.  (3) Wanna know why the Bears can't hire a coordinator.  Ask Neil Hayes:

"You've only got one year to get it right and sometimes it takes longer
than that," said one longtime NFL assistant. What many perceived to be
a tough 2010 schedule may also be making candidates wary. Besides
playing the division-rival Vikings and Packers twice next season, the
Bears will also play the Eagles, Patriots, Jets and Seahawks at home
and the Cowboys, Giants, Dolphins and Panthers on the road."

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  • Too bad we don't have any trade bait. I don't think WR is going to be a spot the Organization will be looking at. Too bad but there will be other opportunities down the road. Right now O-line and secondary are our main player concerns I think.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Agreed. Along with someone that can actually get to the QB consistently so our Cover who might be effective instead of resulting in having holes that Swiss cheese would be jealous of.

  • I have a different take on the Kreutz situation. This news that he played the entire season with a fairly serious injury is encouraging to me. It's now possilbe that Olin's play hasn't slipped as much as we've feared, and that after this surgery he can return to his former pro bowl self. I realize that it's no sure thing, but to me it's worth the risk. The bears have too many holes as it is to be dumping players for the hell of it.

  • In reply to alott96:

    I hope your right. We need to rest him a lot in the preseason so we can see how Beekman looks there so we know how bad we are at the position if Kreutz doesn't play better.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Speaking of taking chances on older vets comes this nugget from profootball talk: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/28/tannenbaum-jets-will-keep-gholston-jones-is-less-certain/
    Would it be worth it to bring back Thomas Jones? I realize he's 32 and all, but in a two back system he could still be effective.

  • In reply to alott96:

    instant upgrade at the position. do like dallas does and have a 3-back system (Forte, Jones, Bell) to give Matty's system a rest...

  • In reply to alott96:

    My first inclination was to bring back jones but upon further review it would be a mistake I think. I liked what I saw Bell do last year and we have to look to the future. Jones would play a minor role and as much as I like him, I think it would be wise to pass on him.

  • In reply to alott96:

    With a 7-9 record, how did we get such a difficult schedule? Last years seems bush league to the one coming up.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    When it rains it pours. Look at it this way, if we make the playoffs we'll be battle tested. Back to reality though, at least the Bears will have to fire Lovie when our team goes 4-12.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    I'd rather play and beat the best Crown. If we run amok no one can say we had an easy schedule ...

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    If this Rogers guy had anything to do with Favre throwing 35 Td's and only throwing 7 Int's then I hope he takes the job.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    I doubt he even talked to Favre during the season. No one teaches or coaches Brett Favre.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Finally, something real to talk about. All of this guff about co-ordinators and guys that are going to get blitzed after next year is meaningless and boring as fuck. Yes. The wide receiver position. And here's my $0.02.

    Big is best. Small receivers are old school. Steve Carolina Smith was invisible this year. I've been salivating over these 6'4 + beasts and wondering what we would be like with a couple of big old bookends. When Orton is in trouble he can just chuck it in Marshall's direction. Go up and get it my son. Rivers to V-Jack - oh no, he's covered - Rivers to Floyd at 6'5. The Jets got Edwards for Sanchez. Brady to Moss. Look around, they're all giants. Remember Cutler getting slightly upset with Hester when he realised he wasn't going to help him in the air ? Week sixteen brings Shabba into the starting lineup, 6'2, and the passing game comes alive. No coincidence.

    *If your targets are bigger, logically they will be hit more easily and more often.*

    The above does not apply to Girl Olsen. Which brings us to our first piece of trade bait. He brings NOTHING to the team. Nothing, except more proof that Angelo should not be let near the roster. The Miami U. connection is too much to ignore as just coincidence.

    Hester is number two trade bait. The ridiculous Devin Hester is now just a sub-average receiver with speed that is not being utilised. He hasn't picked up the fundamentals, he doesn't block, he doesn't do any of the things a receiver should be doing when not actually catching a pass. But he may be worth a #2 to somebody or as part of a deal for Brandon Marshall.

    Hunter Hillenmeyer. Pretend to play football somewhere else. Goodbye Uter. Danke Schon. Auf Wiedersehen. Bye bye.

    Tommie Harris. I'm leaning towards thinking Tommie could be on the way back, but if somebody wants to give us a #1 we can't say no. And here's where the wet dream ends .... using some picks, Harris, Hester and Olsen ...if we could somehow get Marshall and the Rams first pick, we would reduce our chances of getting a guard and a FS. But our passing game would be awesome and Mr. Suh would collapse every O-line we face over the next 8 years. His presence would negate the need for a stellar FS.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, sometimes you are completely right and other times you are way off. As with Olsen. How many 4th down touchdowns did he have this year and on the goal line? Do you remember him making plays in pittsburgh to help the team win? You are way too down on him.
    As with Defense, I know I'm going to get bashed for what I am about to say:
    Asside from Lance Briggs, Hillenmeyer is the best D player we have. I just have to say that. On probably 25 other teams he would be the starting MLB and when the Defense was great he was the started Strongside.
    Harris needs to go. Potential-wise he is THE best player on the team but the poor guy's knee is never going to get better.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    Wow. Something tells me you're not joking. Read that back. (other than Lance Briggs) Hunter Hillenmeyer is the best player we have. Wow. I'm just going to leave that for someone else because I've just gone numb down my left side. The Minny game doesn't make up for 15 games where he was out to lunch, whiffing tackles WHEN HE WAS IN HIS GAP, and creating a gigantic hole in the Cover 2 when only the seams are supposed to be the weak spots. In the run game he was giving up about 30lbs on Urlacher so that suffered by default. 90 Tackles for a MLB ? Patrick Willis had 150 this season. What the hell was Hillenbum doing exactly ? Urlacher would do 130 drunk. He lost us the Philly game on his own he was so pathetic. But I get tired repeating/typing all the same shit over and over. He fucked up our coverage calls all season long and he would NOT be staring on 25 other teams, and if he did, they would be the bottom 25 teams in the league. He clearly proved he was not fit to replace Brian. This team has been defined by the MLB position throughout history. Hunter Hillenmeyer ?

    How many 4th down + goal-line TDs did Olsen have ? Don't know. Can't have been more than seven. Take out the three from the Arizona game which were tokens in a blowout. That leaves four that could have been useful. I remember a lot of two catch games, and one in particular where Cutler aimed it at him 14 times. I believe one of the two was for a TD. But that's not production when the hopes of the aerial game are on your shoulders. Olsen was supposed to be the man. No one was ever sold on Hester, but he did appear to have improved early in the season. But it was all smoke and mirrors. Olsen was going to be the big target, the big blonde number one pick. We could put up with his inability to block if he became Antonio Gates or Dallas Clark. I'm not saying he's a bad blocker, I'm saying he doesn't block. He doesn't even try, he's like Hester. He doesn't lay his hands on there once he's forward from the line of scrimmage. It's like he's scared of contact, or shies away from it. I used to like Olsen. I don't watch college football so I never saw the guy play. But from what I've seen, he's not productive enough, he's not tough enough, he can'/doesn't block, and drops too many damn balls to be a #1 TE for me. What would our receiving and overall situation look like with Dez Clarke as #1 this season ? A lot better, I'm sure. Kellen Davis can block. Given the opportunity at 6'7 he can probably catch it pretty good too. He was wrongly promoted over Clarke, although we didn't mind too much at the time? He was good, right ? Well he isn't. I'm not even happy with him as a #3. Trade him while he's worth something and before the rest of the league find out he's about as useful as tits on a bull.

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    It's really hard to find tape of someone being crappy, so you have to kind of cherish them when they come along ... Olsen V The Rams

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtRa0OFCTwY

    Watch this and tell me why I should be a fan.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    You Boy Roy for Offensive Coordinator

  • In reply to A7Xthebest:

    IMO Cutler is the best player potential-wise. Tommie is way up there too but I think we could and should make him part of a good trade.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Irish, you might call guys like Olsen, Hester and Harris trade bait, but I think you're overestimating how many fish are biting out there. If the Bears are serious about trading any of the guys you mentioned, they would most likely have to initiate the negotiations, putting themselves in a position to receive little or no value for in the trade. Like Al said, the Bears have far too many holes to be getting rid of players, especially their best players, for what would likely be horrible trade value.

    How about instead of dumping their best players, the Bears go out and sign a big name free agents or two? Despite the CBA expiring in March, there are actually some big tenured names on both sides of the ball. Lovie and his D could sure use guys like J. Peppers, D. Sharper, K. Vanden Bosch, A. Kampman or C. Hampton. On offense, there are some nice options on the line like E. Amano of TEN and Stephen Neal of NE along with skill players like Chester Taylor, Antonio Bryant and Kevin Walter.

    By signing a key FA or two, the Bears might actually be able to salvage this an otherwise painful and embarrassing offseason. Some of the players on that FA list have the ability to make whoever ends up accepting the coordinator positions look much better than would with just the players already on the roster. Does it sound like something the Bears would do? Probably not. But considering they're limited in what they can do in the draft, and considering they're sitting on some extra dough, I wouldn't be surprised if Angelo and Lovie end up signing a big name free agent or two in order to turn things around quickly and save their jobs.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Depends on what you call trade bait, Shady. Hester, Olsen & Harris are guys that would generate interest. The only trade I'd advocate though, would be :

    a) Any trade that gets Mr. Suh in Burnt Orange & Blue, and doesn't involve Briggs, Cutler, Forte or Jamar/Chris Williams.

    b) I'd take a third rounder or better for the girl. %$#@& I'd take a dog with scabies and rabies for Olsen ....

    c) A number 2 for Hester or as part of some deal for Marshall/V-Jack.

    I don't think Tommie is done after all, and now it appears Tommie/Forte/Kreutz were all on bum wheels this year. I'm willing not to order the assassination of Angelo if he does what he should have done last year in FA - 1. get us a monster WR and 2. A dude to block for Cutler who is not called Frank Omiyale.

    Angelo passed on Sharper and Dawkins this year. Sharper made the pro bowl and we didn't even TALK to him. Angelo is class A wanker. Nuff said. He can't be trusted to get us anyone exciting in free ageny. We only got Cutler because of Orton. Although there's so much talent available this year it will actually be enjoyable watching how he fucks it up this time ....

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    If you add getting a player who can disrupt a pocket and wreak havoc on Quarterbacks for the D-line to your list of getting us a monster WR and a dude to block for Cutler than I will also agree to not order the assassination of Angelo, unless we don't make the playoffs. Then he is out with his coach.

    Angelo should only ever be allowed to pick 4th Round Defense and below. Give him whatever title you want but only let him do this. Ever.

    And Ted Phillips should only be able to make financial decisions for the Bears, not football related decisions. Again give him whatever title he wants too but only let him do this. Ever.

    Create a new position if you have to for the football guy but get a football guy.

    Not putting people in a position that they are good at and asking/allowing them to continue to do things that they are not good at is really, really dumb. Split the jobs cowards. Your in charge. Just do the right thing.

  • In reply to Shady:

    That sounds great. Shady for GM.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Irish it's interesting that you are quick to point out just a couple of stats that enforce your point but deliberately ignore these facts:

    Hillenmeyer only started 13 total games.
    Hillenmeyer did not start all 13 of those game at MLB. Several of them were Roach at Middle before being replaced by Hillenmeyer.
    Hillenmeyer ended the season with 2.5 sacks=to that of Briggs.
    Hillenmeyer ended the season with 1 INT=to that of Briggs.
    Hillenmeyer ended the season with 4 forced fumbles>than that of Briggs'0.
    In the Cincinati game, Hillenmeyer was the SINGLE person on the entire team trying to win. He was the ONLY Defensive player I did not see giving Cedric Benson ass-grabs and pats on the head after HELPING HIM UP right after gashing them for another ten yards.
    Any missed calls going into the defense that cost us games were Roach's fault when he was in at Middle. Make no mistake, I like Roach, but he's better at Strong Side.
    As far as Olsen goes, why is he the only offensive player whos production you're not tacking onto the O-line? Clark had a bad year too, and I think a number of receivers would have done better had the line held up...especially our pass-catching tightend.
    In regard to his blocking, no it's not the best, but all I know is that all the other players on the team said it got measurably better over the course of the year.

  • In reply to IrishBearsFan:

    Didn't think much of the tough schedule next year but that definately doesn't help us out...at all. We have no first or second round picks...it is highly unlikely we get any big free agents....so little improvement talent-wise other than that our offense gets older and wiser...but wow.

    Our division contains Adrian Peterson...Calvin Johnson...Aaron Rogers and a damn good packers offense improving....a star to come in Matt Stafford....we have a tough road ahead.

    We have hit a low spot. I hate to say I told you so...but I said we are a cheap franchise....and we are feeling that now to the fullest. We are not in the 1970's anymore...NFL is big business...if you don't have a lot of value in the bank...its pretty tough to run a franchise it seems...and we are that team with owners who don't have cash to spare...probably running like the Glazers running Manchester united or Hicks and Gilette running Liverpool....borrowing on interest. How do you compete with Redskins or the Cowboys. It pisses me off Chicago is a big city and we act like Buffalo.

    I may be over-acting a tad...but this sucks.

  • In reply to jeungru13:

    Ooh - I keep forgetting about Calvin Johnson. Just like the Lions - Ha ! Boom boom.

    Any chance he could become a Bear ?

  • In reply to jeungru13:

    Off topic - Glazer actually has the biggest football club on the planet (remember the NFL is small potatoes compared to FIFA) in debt !! Manchester United are in massive debt. Imagine the Steelers going into debt ....

  • In reply to jeungru13:

    downside is clear. upside- their division contains Jay Cutler, one of the best young WR cores in the game, versital everything back forte, two awesome corners, best core of LBs around

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    Hmm. How bout that, Jeff. Seems like if the Bears had the ONIONS to let Lovie go then we wouldn't be in this PICKLE we currently find ourselves.

    I'm trying to embrace a more vegatarian vocabulary.

    But seriously, is it too late to back-peddle? I mean, that one fool chose the RAIDERS over the Bears. The RAIDERS, boys and girls! The team that has NO prospects of ever doing shit ever...until Al Davis sells the team or dies and Al ain't sellin'! As high as I was about the season nine months ago, that's how low I feel about 2010 right now.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    "I'm trying to embrace a more vegatarian vocabulary."

    That, was very funny Ghost. Well done.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    I'm REALLY looking forward to this time next year, when the schedule is used as a scapegoat for why we went 5-11. Only to be followed by the 5.5 million dollar scapegoat that keeps Lovie here until the end of his contract.

    Thank God Pisa is coming back.

    Irish - I'm with you on the trade bait. Let's get some SUH. I now live in Omaha, and I HATE the Huskers... but that guy is going to make some team very very happy. Please, let's do what we can to make it us, and not the damn Rams.

    Get rid of Olsen, Hester, Urlacher,and whomever else is needed to get us a damn pass rusher that won't punch people in the face just to get a game or two of rest.

    SUH ME!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    GREAT Olsen argument, Irish.

    "Oh, THOSE touchdowns don't count."

    The 3 TDs against the Cardinals were NOT 'tokens'.

    The 3rd one turned it back into a football game and the Cardinals re-inserted Kurt Warner to confirm the fact that it do so.

    The fact that Odious Ed Hochuli and his incompetent zebra crew had decided the game was over in the first half and that the Bears were not "worthy" of any of the 3 or 4 flagrant P.I. fouls against the Cardinals robbed football fans of what could have been a much more interesting finish.

    "Girl Olson" ?
    Feel free to take that moniker and stick it where the sun don't shine.

    "Girl" doesn't bounce up from the two illegal, cheap-shot, spearing hits that the "Troy-Polumalu-wannabe" Steeler safety delivered in week 3.

    I am repeating myself but I submit that if YOU had taken either of those shots you would have been requesting a stretcher, a sedative and your mommy.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Absolutely agree about the Steeler game, Al.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    trade Urlacher and give them back Johnny Knox. Or give them Urlacher and next year's #1 pick. Otherwise, we're the same team. time to mix it up and try something different. Denver is already going to draft a WR, this will help them out since Knox is proven.

  • In reply to RealityCheck:

    That trade is essentially Knox for Marshall straight up. And every NFL team knows it.

  • In reply to RealityCheck:

    Marshall is a malcontent women beating bag of douche. Sure he's a beast on the field but he's also a bad locker room guy and an all around dick.

    We didn't suck donkey dick last year because our receivers were bad. Reciever is need # 472 on the Bears long list of needs. Stick with the guys that we have and give them a chance. They are actually one of our positions of strength at the moment.

    I would argue that we need a running back more than a receiver, and certainly we need OL/DL and secondary help more than receiver.

    This team always does the opposite of what I expect them to do. 2008 I expected them to be miserable, and they finished with a winning record and almost made the playoffs. 2009 I expected 14-2 and the playoffs and the sucks horsetaint. Good news for next year. I have no expectations for them so count on a playoff berth and another extension for the bald guy from big sandy. count on it.

  • In reply to RealityCheck:

    If Brandon Marshall invented the Strawberry Shortcake...

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=strawberry+shortcake

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Nasty!

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    While I am NOT the "smartest guy in the world" I DO have my moments.

    Like NFL Officiating guru, Mike Pereira has confirming my call from days ago that there should have been a flag on the high-low hit on Narcissus.

    What a DAMN SHAME there wasn't! (he said, trying to suppress the laughter).

  • In reply to RealityCheck:
  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Calling all cars, calling all cars. Fire Lovie now, fire Lovie now. There is no choice left but to pull the trigger before we lose anymore standing as an NFL franchise. Up till now the front office had created themselves some wiggle room but I believe the writing is on the wall, the Bears have no choice but to fire Lovie and his entire staff.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    *waiting on Irish's non-logical response to all of these facts*

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I am not persuaded, MB, and Irish is most certainly NOT "100%" right."

    He's not 100% wrong, either, as I've conceded during past debates on this issue that there is certainly room for improvement for Greg Olsen.

    HOWEVER...

    The Steeler safety LAUNCHED himself and led with his helmet.

    TWICE.

    THAT is the TEXTBOOK definition of Spearing.

    It is strictly VERBOTEN!

    The rule is as much for the defender as the receiver as it is a great shortcut to a wheelchair, as Mark Buoniconti discovered years ago.

    Weight difference is hardly a factor when a guy puts his helmet into your head. Like a guy weighing in at 190 or 200 lbs is somehow trivial?

    And spare me the macho posturing of the "That's football where I come from" platitude.

    That stuff is real easy to spew from the compfort of a computer keyboard.

    I wouldn't last 10 minutes out there so I would certainly not challenge the manhood of anybody taking that kind of punishment for months at a time.

    The "GIRL" comment is absolutely, "100%" uncalled for anyway you slice this.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al,

    Ok, the girl comment, I agree, is a bit much but it

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    i am scared about Urlacher MB and it's because the injury he had and the surgery he had are not easy to come back from. i'm not exactly a pro athlete but i am a human being and i had almost the exact same surgery. My left wrist is about 70% of the right and that is 3 years after surgery. I had a different rehab regimen as well. mine consisted of White Castle burgers at 3am and Jameson, video games, occasional sex and the occasional run on the treadmill. I take that back. he will be fine. i really am just lazy now that my football days are over.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Hahahahahaha... very nice Johnny. Very nice.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Sliders cause tissue to heal faster. The grease embeds the tissue with amino acids that speed up the regen process.

    A crave case turns you into fucking Wolverine.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    First of all, in order to bargain in this league you have to have someone the other guy wants or you have to have the pizzaz to convince another team the guy you want to trade will benefit the other team. The Bears will have a tough time doing either so the best route the Bears really have any opportunities will be via the free agent market more than likely.
    Maybe we have a few players we can trade for 3rd,4th,or 5th round picks but thats about it. Pace will be gone, Davis probably won't be around and A.Peterson or Wolfe probably won't be back either. Hillenmeyer can probably bring us another 3rd round pick. I don't see how we get a 2nd round pick unless we're willing to give up 2 players like Hester and Hillenmeyer for a middle to high second round pick.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    And how can they make any major personnel moves without Coordinators in place on both sides of the ball.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Just heard on the Score:

    The Sun Times is reporting Mike Martz is at Halas Hall right now.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    sooooo Bears faithful:

    Kevin Rogers or Mike Martz

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    FQ-

    Thats like asking would you rather:

    be lit on fire or shot in the face.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    true, but we all know what this season is. who's the lesser of two evils?

  • In reply to Dmband:

    I cant believe Im saying this but I'd have to take Martz.

    Im not happy about it.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Martz in Chicago will be a nightmare. It could work with the speed we have in Knox, hester and DA from a conceptual point of view but I don't see how it will work in December and January.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Oh fuck. Guess I can't taunt the Lions' slappies at the bar anymore...

  • In reply to Dmband:

    Probably dont have to worry about January.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Touch

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    OK, MB, I admit I have a tendency to take some of the posts too literally.

    Frankly, I see the receivers/tight ends as back-burner items, for now.

    My theory is that the Bears should channel all their efforts into upgrading the offensive line to an upper tier level (and I realize that is one TALL order), whereby many of the other issues on the offense will evaporate by default.

    Same goes for the defense. When Ted Washington and the Tractor owned the ground they trod and for that brief period when Tommie Harris really WAS the best tackle in the game, our back 7 was free to zero in on targets of opportunity and wayward footballs.

    I would place O-Line as priority over the D-Line because if your offense keeps the ball, that automatically makes your defense better.

    The reverse, however, is NOT true. No matter how good your defense is, if your offense is constantly doing the "three and out tango", your defense invariably spends too much time on the field and eventually wears down.

    Shining Example: The Jets defense is Super Bowl caliber, but the 3 and out at the end of the first half against the Colts greased the skids under them.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Albert, are you sure you ain't the smartest guy in the world. Huhhuh.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al, I

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    PFT: "Don't be surprised if Martz benches Cutler in favor of Caleb Hanie."

    Puh-LEASE.

    Pro-football talk, The same people that reguklarly give you
    Mike "I periodically just make up stuff" Florio.

    The source of that quote Ghost cites is Evan Silva.

    Who in the hell is Evan Silva? He refers to Mike Florio as
    "PFT Grand Poobah".

    Right on, Evan.

    Heavy emphasis on the POO. Don't step in it on your way out.

    Frankly, I'd almost be willing to to see Martz get the job just affirm what a doofus Florio is.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Oh, and I know that this is a bit like watching a car crash, or even more accurate, going back to the scene of the crime to look at the skid marks, crushed glass shards and dried blood, but I just can't help myself (enjoy!): http://www.startribune.com/blogs/83045062.html?elr=KArks47cQiU17cQiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

  • In reply to MB30SD:

    Haiti needs T-shirts.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    GP, good idea!

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Those Viking t-shirts should come in real handy.
    There's BOUND to be a shortage of toilet paper.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Martz is in Halas Hall right now, eh?

    Let's open up the channel to the bug in the lamp:

    "...fuck yeah I like the seven step drop. I will have Jay Leno throwing for 400 yards a game, much less Cutler. Yes, I know, Williams is not Orlando Pace in his prime. But come on, Love Dove! remember how we used to do it! Nobody thought we'd have bag boy in the hall! I'll make Earl the Pearl into Tory fucking Holt! We'll have Daley inviting us up to Lake Geneva for whiskey and cigars after we take this team deep! Just you and me baby!"

    Ok... let's shut it off. I heard enough.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    This team is beginning to look the the North Division walking dead. This can't be happening.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    Oh yes, it can be.

    Next season ultimately comes down to whether the vets have the pride. The pride to show they appreciate the privilege of wearing the uniform with GSH on the sleeve.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    look at it this way......if the Bears suck horribly in 2010 they will have a very high draft pick that will actually belong to them and not Denver. Depending on how bad they suck it could lead to the ouster of Lovie AND Jerry. THAT means that high pick won't necessarily be wasted by Jerry Angelo's bumbling hands.

    A horrifically bad season could get rid of Lovie and Jerry and get us a high enough pick to get Jay either a stud OT or WR or a stud DT or Safety.

    Think about it....

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Ted Phillips. Jerry Angelo. Lovie Smith.

    More, Larry and Curly?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Er, MOE, Larry Curly. DUH!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    BTW,here's that link, which also discusses the best
    $20K Bobby McCray will ever spend.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

    As a matter of fact, we Narcissus "lovers" should send
    Mr.McCray thank you notes and contributions to help defer the fine.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Al for GM, sorry to whoever I gave it to before, you can be asst GM. Director of Player Personnel or some shit?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    LMAO @ gpldan, that gave me a really good laugh just before I go to bed. Thanks man.

  • In reply to Dmband:

    PFT: "Don't be surprised if Martz benches Cutler in favor of Caleb Hanie."

    ....

    I got nothing....

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    wtf is this silly shit?

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Wow, maybe going 4-12 is putting the expectations a little high for this season. Jeez Martz you won't get the head coaching job if we go 0-16. He won't right? I hope he won't.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Seriously don't know the answer to this but, when was the last time we actually hired a coach and fired them after a single season? It seems to me we actually are one of the few teams that sticks with our seemingly bad decisions and actually give our coaches a chance to prove themselves...but maybe I'm completely wrong...

  • In reply to alott96:

    WE ARE FUCKED!!! WITH LOVIE!!!

  • In reply to alott96:

    WE ARE FUCKED!!! WITH LOVIE!!!

  • In reply to alott96:

    WE ARE FUCKED!!! WITH LOVIE!!!

  • In reply to alott96:

    WE ARE FUCKED!!! WITH LOVIE!!!

  • In reply to alott96:

    Congrats to Derrick Rose making the All-Star team. Another great example of a Chicago sports franchise who's front office are a bunch of morons and get really lucky once in awhile. Imagine that team without him. Trying to be competitive despite your coaching and front office holding you back. That's the Chicago sports way. Lately. Unfortunately. Except the Blackhawks. Yes I know its a football blog.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    And Pisa being back if it's a done deal is great news.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I hope he doesn't pull a Dvorachec and get hurt again.

  • In reply to ImissButkus:

    or pull a Dvoracek and get in a bar fight

  • In reply to BTiff:

    or pull a Dvorak and screw up his keyboard.

  • In reply to alott96:

    ...or Ricky Williams ....

  • In reply to alott96:

    YES

  • In reply to alott96:

    nobody wants to coach our Bears... embarrasing

  • In reply to alott96:

    are we worse than the fucking Raider organization now? Is Virginia the new Al Davis? Are we becoming the new gold standard for ineptitude? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Hope you're right about Kreutz Al. While I don't think he'll ever get back to his pro-bowl caliber level, I think he can still be a solid contributor not only on the line, but also in the locker room.

  • In reply to alott96:

    Olin Kreutz has sucked hard for the past four seasons, '06 included. He is terrible. Nothing about a multi-month recovery surgery says anything good. And besides, he's 32.

  • Exactly. It would be easier to replace the dead weight on the team if we had some of that cheddar to throw at FA's every year. You know. The good ones.

  • Don Bank's Mock Draft 1.0 Oh that's right some of you won't be interested because it is only for the 1st Rd and we aren't in it. I bet most of you will read it anyways like I did. Wouldn't it be great to be able to develop talent so that we could get players like Cutler and Marshall and even better than them in trades with just players off the team from our positions of strength instead of having to use so many draft picks all the time? Nice fantasy huh?

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/01/28/mock.draft.1/index.html?eref=sircrc

  • Blah, Blah, Blah. I'm really getting sick and tired of flapping my gums about the Bears already. I cannot see any upside to next season already and its only January. Does anybody else feel this way. I know we're supposed to be positive but quite frankly I can't find anything positive to dwell on anymore.

    Draft-depressing
    Roster-depressing
    Coaching-depressing
    Near term future-depressing

    I can feel it coming on already. I don't see how we can having a winning record next year or the next for that matter. Maybe we'll be able to pull out a Minnesota like win once or twice next year but other than that, the sky is falling.

  • Broncos draft Jimmy Clausen from Notre Dame and start the process of showing Kyle Orton the door in 2011.

    Bank on it.

  • gp: I think you're right about the Broncos drafting a QB. I'm not sure about it being Clausen though. I think the Bronco's planned on using the 1st rd pick they got from us on a QB all along. Barring injury, Clausen probably won't start for a couple of years. Not sure if Clausen is one of those QB's that can step right into the job.

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