Biggs: Martz To Run Offense?

If Lovie Smith is given another year to run the Chicago Bears (as is expected), Brad Biggs wonders something I knew would become a story sooner than later.  Will Mike Martz become the offensive coordinator?

''Martz would love to work with Jay Cutler,'' said the source, who
cited the close relationship between Smith and Martz in sharing the

Jerry Angelo will not allow Lovie Smith to return with the current coaching staff, a mistake made throughout the Jauron era.  It will take a major change and bringing in a personality like Martz would fit that bill. 

I will say this.  If you needed a reason to watch these final six games, you have one.  Lovie Smith is auditioning for his job.


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  • Ya know...

    I don't like Mike Martz. Never really have, although it's hard to argue with his success in St. Louis. I always thought he was more of a gimmick type coach who was able to capitalize on a team with a ridiculous amount of talent at the skill positions.

    Even with all his success, I remember watching the Rams lose quite a few times, particularly after their Super Bowl season, because Martz would literally forget to give the ball to Marshall Faulk for most of the game. They would rely too much on the pass, give up interceptions, lose a shootout, and then fucking Mike Martz would stand at the podium and say... "I probably should have gotten Marshall Faulk more involved, that's an oversight on my part" And then everybody would wonder how he could forget that the best RB in the whole fucking league was on the field... pass blocking.

    And, I'm tired of hiring people Lovie used to be with in St. Louis. It started with Adam Archuletta, and Orlando Pace, and now it would be Martz... And I'm sure I'm leaving out several others. I'm just not thrilled with it anymore. It hasn't been working out so far. Ditto for anybody from Tampa Bay. Angelo and Lovie need to move on.

    On the other hand, he might be exactly the kind of epic disaster that would get the whole staff fired, so, I guess that's a plus.

  • In reply to kidronmusic:

    Nice comments Kidron, especially regarding Martz not getting the ball to Faulk. I agree he would be a disaster.

    I'm a big Badger football fan, and when I compare John Chryst's (OC) play calling to Ron Turner's every week I get disgusted. Wisconsin runs a lot of two TE sets, but they use a lot of motion and misdirection on running plays and passing plays. Even though Wisconsin gets off the bus running, they have no problem changing the game plan mid stream based on what the defense is doing. Turner has never showed half of Chryst's imagination. I can't wait til that blimpkin is gone.

  • In reply to kidronmusic:

    As long as Martz doesn't become HC, I'd be OK with a change at OC.

    I do think it's funny, however, that Martz blasted Cutler for his post game body language but now he wants to coach him? Riiight.

  • In reply to kidronmusic:

    At this point in time I'm not saying it would be a good move or bad move, but hiring Mike Martz WOULD do ONE thing for SURE, namely, put an end to the "We get off the bus running" mantra we are currently forced to endure.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I'm not sure how the 'greatest show on turf' would translate to whatever you want to call the field conditions at Soldier Field. "The greatest show on _______ ".

  • In reply to Shady:

    Dilapidated Sod.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    That's got a nice ring to it.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    MARTZ..Really? look in the dictionary for ASSMUNCH and there is his picture. This would be another circle jerk inspired idea from the FU!@!@$!@ING GREATEST SHOW ON SHIT!! STOP IT! Again LDL living in the glory days and all he brings in is old fucks STOP IT!!! Please all.....get of this titanic and we need to go in a new direction! NOW!!!

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    as for Hester He is fucked in the head! (thanks to LDL, RT and the Bears management thinking he is a #1 Reciever) this damn exp. has gone BAD!!! Please as for an offensive component he scored more as a return man SHIT am I the only one seeing this!! DO all of you remember gentry for 3rd down conversions and having the other team try to cover him. This is what I beleive Hester can do for us and making us go vertical at certain times.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Martz would be a disastrous hire - whether that's a good thing or bad, I don't know. When Lovie came into town, he brought along Terry Shea (remember him?) and his encyclopedia-sized playbook. You remember how that went. Martz would bring in a similar playbook and a similarly steep learning curve. Remember who our receivers are? I don't think they would pick up the offense quickly at all. Martz succeeded with Warner, Holt, Bruce, and Faulk at (arguably) the primes of their careers. That's a shit-ton of talent, ladies and gentlemen - which we simply don't have. When Warner went down and Faulk came up lame and the receivers got old, where was the genius? In two seasons with the Lions and one with the 49ers, did either one become an offensive juggernaut overnight?

    That said, I don't think Bill Walsh could come back and get much out of our offense with the current O-line in place. This weekend is going to be like watching a top SEC team go up against a Division II school when our O-line lines up against the Williams and Jared Allen. You give Cutler a top-10 O-line and a big, fast possession receiver with hands (did you say Brandon Marshall?), and we could win with Bob Babich calling plays.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Not a Martz fan either. He's way too full of himself. If he were a sexual act, he'd be a Roman War Helmet

  • In reply to MASOCHR:

    Do you know my friend in Rome? Biggus Dickus?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    "He wanks higher than anyone in Wome !"

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Martz ? No chance. Ask yourself why aren't people banging down his door ? He previously slated Cutler and ended any chance of getting the job right there (if he wanted it in the first place that is). More importantly, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and talks a lot crap, doesn't perceive very well etc. and I've had enough of dumb coaches thanks. His 'insights' are BS and stomach-churning. The mute button is more insightful than he is. I wouldn't trust him to tie his shoelaces correctly much less plan my team's offense. I've said this before, calling plays is not rocket science, this is football. Look at the guys that play it - you can't make it rocket science because they just won't get it. I don't care who comes in as long as there's a basic philosophy behind what they're doing, as long as they are conspicuous by their absence from message boards. I don't care if there's only 20 pass plays and 20 running plays. That's all there should be, everything else is BS and for show. Executing plays correctly is all that's required. That's what's effective. Expecting players to absorb things and perform just because your playbook looks like the Encyclopaedia Britannica is futile and smacks of egotism. You can just imagine some of these tobacco-spittin' coaches going :"Yup, ah got 500 oh-fensive plays in he-yuh." and looking for reactions of awe and wonderment from the observer. "WOW ! 500 !!?"

    Define your philosophy. Practice. Execute.

    BTW - you have to see Hester on this breakdown ...

    Our boy Roy is breaking down film now - interesting video pointing out that Hester does nothing when the play isn't designed to go to him.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Martz is a big "NO" vote for me. He was lucky to have the great players he had when he won the Super Bowl for St. Louis, he is NOT the great offensive genius the press wanted everyone to believe.

    Mike Singletary didn't get along with him in SF. lobotobear said it best..he's an assmunch.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    My only confidence in Martz would be that he made Jon Kitna into a 4000 yard passer at 34 years old and did have the Lions at 6-2 half way through his second season. So I think he could get Cutlers head right. Other than that we have basically been running his style of offense haven't we? We never run effectively and we throw 40-50 times a game.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Ghost reminded me of something that was really bugging me about the Eagles game...namely, our Offensive personnel are built for speed at every single skill position, and even the OL are not grinders.
    The turf conditions are so bad that they negate the one tactical advantage that our #1 receiver, #1 TE, and #1 RB have. Not size, nor shiftiness, just flat out straight line speed. It's no wonder Cutler managed to overthrow the two fastest guys on the field Sunday; their cleats would probably have worked for aerating my lawn.
    Martz wouldn't want to be OC in our mud-slogging conditions..and I don't particularly want his smarmy mug looking down from a booth either. But his scheme would fit well with the attributes of our skill positions.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Lovie built a team for asshole-turf that plays at home in a mudbowl.

    Brilliant. Just brilliant.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    So Lovie went from

    "the greatest show on turf"


    "the greatest show in mud"
    (outside of attractive women mud wrestling).

    With the Bears out of the playoff picture, the mud wrestling looks like a better show right now.

  • In reply to MikeBrownhadaPosse:

    Martz is a dick, but he would be an upgrade over Wrong Turner (which is not saying much). I think he would be too expensive for the Bears "brain trust" (brain drain?) to consider him.

    But please, anyone chanting Charlie's Weis's name should realize that Belicheck did practically everything in New England. Weis hasn't found success anywhere since leaving Boston.

    If Weis gets fired, he still might be better than Turner as OC....but again, that's not saying much.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    o.k. this is the second place i've seen marshall mentioned. yes he's good yes he played with cut but did you see him in the chargers game. this kid has the potential to be another t.o. and i don't care that,s not bears football he's Trouble.

  • In reply to Shady:

    ...the worst field

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Regarding Hub Arkush's report...

    On the one hand, Hub DOES have an axe to grind. He was run out of the Bears' radio game analyst job and can't have any love for the current regime. Of course, I believe he was "run" because he reported what he saw, good or bad. How DARE he!

    On the other hand...

    Mr. Arkush is certainly no johnny-come-lately hack with a reputation for making up stories (Can you say "Mike Florio" ?).
    He has years of credibilty covering the NFL as publisher / editor of PRO FOOTBALL WEEKLY. Besides, you KNOW the Bears would
    try to discredit him as they grind one of THEIR many axes.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Arkush is beyond reproach. He knows more about Bears history and inside stories than all of us here combined.

    Sometimes he seems condescending on his radio show, but it's because he really does know the truth of things.

    And when Larravee and Arkush and Hampton used to call games, it was good stuff. Larravee can get plumpkin'ed by Ditka's mustache for all I care, the fudge packer.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I'm all for Mike Martz becoming the OC!

    So long as Cowher is HC.

  • Martz? More of the same stop gap approach by the Bears. Worn out form of thinking based purely off saving cash. They can't stomach paying remaining portion of Lovehammer's contract to hang out with Tony Dungy helping bad pro athletes get new work/careers. Wonder how Cutler will react if Martz comes in? This won't work but Bears will do it anyway. We're all so screwed it hurts. Lovie's crappy Cov2 worked in dome and so did Martz offense. With Bears shitty field you can forget crisp cuts that are needed to execute both. I say run Lovehammer out on a rail and bring in Jim Harbaugh. That will never happen...not in Obama's Chi-town. Bet Bears are forced to pay deep thinking always perplexed Lovie 10 million on top of 10 million just to fire his sorry ass. It's PC world fans. DOOMED!

  • In reply to tkfay:

    "That will never happen...not in Obama's Chi-town."

    So Lovie gets to stay because he's black?

    What are you, Andrew Dice Clay?

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