Chicago at Cincinnati Preview

Your 3-2 2009 Chicago Bears
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Cincinnati

Why do I like the Chicago Bears this week?
1. I always like the Chicago Bears.

And now for something completely different...

I like my football players angry.  Violent.  Dick Butkus.  Bill George.  Mike Singletary and the rest of the '85 guys.  I don't like linebackers that "excel in coverage".  I don't like safeties that "play the ball well in the air".  Sure those are admirable traits but they don't mean shit at the point-of-impact.  Sunday, in Cincinnati, there's a reason to be violent at the point-of-impact.  That reason's name is Cedric Benson.

Cedric Benson cried the day he was drafted fourth.  Not because he was soon to become an unfathomably rich man, no.  It was because three other guys got drafted first.  Ced was bitter.  He cried like a water sprinkler and it set off my douche bag alarm.

Benson quickly shredded those doubts and looked like the kind of big, bruising back Anthony Thomas could only pretend to be.  His style was a perfect compliment to Thomas Jones and in 2006 they were arguably the best running back tandem in the sport.  The Bears traded Jones, the man who carried them through the postseason, and handed one of the most historically rich positions in all of sports to Benson.  I thought he was destined for an MVP-type season.

And...he sucked.  Slow to the hole.  Slow through the hole.  Broke about three tackles all year.  He never had the desire on the field but always seemed to have an excuse off of it.  The stories of a locker room in shambles and intentional practice injuries began to circulate quickly and the team never put together a consistent effort.  Benson was a bust and the Bears wisely realized they needed to move on.  Enter Matt Forte.

Now Benson has found a career in Cincinnati, seemingly the perfect place for him.  Did Benson learn his lesson?  Has success on the field led to composure and maturity off of it?  What do you think?

"I heard all the rumors that were said coming out of Chicago," the
Bengals running back said during a conference call. "Even the Bengals
said they would call and inquire about me and get nothing but negative
things ... that I didn't work hard, that I was, I guess, a prima donna,
didn't work hard on the field, just wasn't focused."

Lance Briggs responded:

"I know he has had this date circled for a long time," Briggs said. "He
was a little worried we were cheap-shotting him. Now he can get revenge
on everyone who he thought cheap-shotted him in our training camp."

When Benson hasn't been successful running the football, the Bengals have lost.  It's simple as that.  And if this defense doesn't hit this guy...if they don't gang tackle this guy...if they don't attack the line of scrimmage on Sunday...I have no use for them.  Any of them.  I've always hoped that the guys on the field cared as much about outcomes as I do.  On Sunday I wanna see.  I wanna see Cedric Benson on his damn back.  I wanna see violence.

Chicago Bears 30, Cincinnati Bengals 10

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  • "On Sunday I wanna see. I wanna see Cedric Benson on his damn back. I wanna see violence."

    I love it.

  • In reply to Pearldrummer5555:

    me, too!!!!

    can't wait!

  • In reply to Pearldrummer5555:

    I'm with BDG in regards to Benson. I don't think (m)any real Bears fans have any respect or "good for that guy" feelings towards him like most of us do with neck beard. The most sympathy I will give him is that he joined a team where most of the players were behind Jones because he was a locker room leader that everybody liked. Deal with that shit and play, it's part of earning your stripes as a rookie. Don't mope and throw in the white flag. I vividly remember watching Benson get drafted and saying, "Oh shit, what the hell is a matter with this guy? Why the f is he crying?" When he was playing I constantly wandered if he was smoking weed all the time because he always looked aloof and detached from the game. Always sitting by himself on the bench, keeping silent. Lance Briggs was talking about Pisa earlier in the year and how he immediately accepted him because he could look into his eyes and see who he was and that he was ready. I think the Bears and their fans were forced to look through Benson because their was nothing there. He was a transparent football player. No heart, no resiliency, no toughness, get the fuck off our team! Briggs will have at least one back breaking hit on Benson this week, hope he gets his moneys worth.

  • In reply to crowntheirass:

    So, why didn't Bears management see this when Benson was still at Texas? What kind of scouting are we doing?

  • In reply to Pearldrummer5555:

    Great post Jeff.

    I agree, everyone is talking about how Benson is "out for revenge", but how about the BEARS being out for revenge. We wasted quality time and effort on that POS.

  • The Treasoner has three things on his mind at this point: sleep, driving to Vermont tomorrow to kick off a four-day vacation, and figuring out how to hell to watch/hear/keep track of the Bears-Bengals game on Sunday. Ah, what does it matter anyhow--I already know the outcome!!!

    My crystal ball is telling me Cedric Benson is not longer THAT Cedric Benson, but rather a much-improved, weekly HGH shot-in-the-ass version. The Bears defense SHOULD gobble him up, but he's so mad--he probably cares more about this game than anyone else playing in it--I expect him to go off. After all, no other back has done squat against the Bears thus far. How fitting would it be for Cedric Benson to be the guy who bucks the trend?

    The Bears have to be disappointed following last week's loss to the Falcons. They had every chance to win that game and seemed to blow almost every chance to win that game. How much of a role is the acquisition of Gaines Adams and the loss of Antwan Odom going to play in this game? Either way, I really like Cincinnati's frontline, especialy Geathers.

    I'm going against the Bears, as always. Benson has something prove. The game is in Cincy. The Bengals are on bye next week, so they'll go all out in trying to win this one, knowing rest is around the corner.

    Final Score: Bengals 16, Bears 13. A late field goal decides the outcome.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    I can't wait to see how you come up with something for the Cleveland game.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Neither can I... I'm sure it will involve the ghost of Jim Brown, weather and "Derek Anderson's" resurgence.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    "One day [Omiyale's] going to be a All-Pro left guard," Olin Kreutz tells me. "He's going to make a lot of people eat their words."

    Well Olin, we are really fucking hungry.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Frank-O da All-Pro! Frank-O da All-Pro! Frank-O da All-Pro!

    Boom-shiddy-boom-shiddy-boom.

    Nope, sorry. The beat sucks.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Last time we faced the Cincy Stripers it was Ochocinco who burned us.

    It goes without saying that we do not want to see Cedric Benson have any kind of a day that cannot be described without using words like bad, poor or terrible on Sunday.

    Tino is gone for the season and now facing possible microfracture surgery. THAT, I believe, folks, is a career-threatening diagnosis.
    Trite but true: If it weren't for bad luck,he wouldn't have any luck at all!

    The Packers just signed Ahman Green...? What is up with THAT?

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    LOL.

    Just what games are you watching, Irish, because, apparently, they don't involve the Bears.

    "Olsen is a bust" ....?

    Oh, Really? Let's see YOU make that catch down the middle in the fourth quarter Sunday OR get up after either of those cheap shots against Pittsburgh without requesting a stretcher, a morphine drip and your mommy.

    "Knox is a rookie".

    Well, DUH! That is BRILLIANT criticism! Right up there with someone criticizing you by saying "Well, he's IRISH!"
    You ARE correct. He IS a rookie. He's also scored TDs in FOUR STRAIGHT games and was savvy enough to make a move that drew both a P.I. flag Sunday AND high praise from a guy who knows a little about playing receiver in the NFL, Cris Collinsworth.

    "Bennett isn't an NFL Receiver for me."

    Well, feel free to drop a statement like that and not back it up with any facts. Bennett has several nice grabs on the season. Enough to demonstrate that he belongs.

    "Still love on the board for Lovie?"

    Yeah, sure, I've got some "Lovie Issues" too, INCLUDING the LG situation you cite (see previous thread), but the blame for Cedric Benson over Thomas Jones falls at the feet of Jerry Angelo.
    Feel free to aim at the correct target before you open fire.

    Other than that though, you made some REALLY nice points.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    "without requesting a stretcher, a morphine drip and your mommy." Classic!!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    That line was awesome Albert!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    For some reason, the Bengals don't worry me at all. It's not a Sunday Night game, so the Bears will be relaxed. I think they'll FINALLY allow Cutler to throw the ball more in the first half since the Texans just shredded the Bengals secondary last week.

    I think this may be a blowout. Bears 28-35 points Bengals 10-14 points.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I will be heading south to the Benson Bowl,and i am wired up already!The Bears are gonna open a can of Whoop-Ass on Ced,i can feel it.
    I never was a Benson fan,and did'nt like the way the Bears management treated Thomas Jones.

    I see 15 carries for 3 yards and 2 fumbles.

    Yes a man can dream. Da,Bearssss

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    unfortunately the two players that pinballed him in that practice were Brownie and 54, and they won't be on the field. Hopefully Lance brings the wood.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Albert, Irish used to be on the old Tribune msg board that disappeared. He's got a thing about Olsen. On the old board he used to talk about him being a pussy. I told him that was crazy talk because none of us have a clue how hard these guys get pounded. He was always going on about Kellen Davis being the guy instead of Olsen. I like Davis but I don't see him ever getting double coverage. Oh well. That's the great thing about these sites, we can offer our opinions and kick it around.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I used to stick up for Cedrunk and thought the Bears gave up too soon. I thought they should have waited until the cases were through the courts. However, this guy is just a talented nutjob that can't take responsibility for his own actions. I hope we pound the shit out of this asshole.

    Go Bears!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Rancid, hear, hear! Years ago we had many knock down drag outs about Ced vs. TJ. Having watched Ced at my alma mater, I was a big fan and couldn't have been more pumped when the Bears took him. I supported him during his tears (which only much later I learned the real reason for those tears - he didn't want to be drafted by the Bears because he already knew they didn't want to pay him what he wanted). After a very promising second season paired with TJ that culminated with that season ending (and likely Super Bowl losing) fumble and concomitant (fake?) injury, he proceeded to run in 2007 like he absolutely hated the Bears and the game and being hit. Drinking games were created based on how many seconds it took Ced to drag his bones upright after a hit (after runs which were typically better measured in feet than in yards). He averaged one injury per carry - at least as indicated by his post-tackle body language. He then mercifully committed career suicide by cop - DUI cop - and we got to end a very sad chapter of Bears history.

    (Note: He wasn't, however, the Bears' biggest bust ever, not when there's so much recent competition for that slot - Cade McNown, Curtis Enis, Michael Gaines, Rashaad Salaam, Rick Mirer)(we get to count Rick because we traded our first round pick for him)

    But as Rancid says, TJ was no saint in that offseason mess either.

    I surely hope the Bears pound the Bengals into oblivion on Sunday - not motivated by "revenge" against Ced but simply to erase the awful taste of losing from last week and to re-establish their bonafides as a legitimate contender for the playoffs. Losing cannot continue to be an acceptable outcome for this club as it has been over the past two seasons.

    I wonder if we will see any impact from our newly acquired quasi-stud? Will it be Gaines to the rescue? How long will it take for The Mighty Marinelli to teach this kid how to rush up to his potential? Surely more than one week! Does Hunter H go back to the middle? Will there be any linebacking signings or does the Briggs Hillenmeyer Roach Williams McClover group work?

    I just know one thing

    BEARS GOTTA WIN ON SUNDAY

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    As s bears fan I never liked Ced. I never felt he belonged on our team. He always seemed like a cry babby pussy. When it was his turn to run the ball for us he sucked! TJ did his job and i appreciated him while he was here. Right now Forte is sucking but I think its more of an O-Line issue concidering what he did for us last year. I love Forte. I even named my dog after him. LOL

    "On Sunday I wanna see Cedric Benson on his damn back. I wanna see violence."

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Say what you will about Thomas Jones, but he was the best (and my favorite) offensive player during the Super Bowl Era. He has proved to be a Pro Bowl talent who could have served the Bears well. Instead he is rushing for 210 yards for the Jets in a losing effort against the Bills. What if Forte rushed for 210 yards Sunday night?

    The Bears feel the loss of Jones, too. They drafted Benson, Wolfe, and Forte to replace him. So far, no long-term solution is out there. (Yes, that's right. Forte isn't a long-term solution unless he gets in gear. To me he is guilty until proven innocent). I know, it's not just Forte. But this team needs to get the run game figured out very soon. Contrary to what Jeff said in a post earlier this week, it is vitally important for Chicago to work on fixing the run...lest we become one-dimensional and Franchise throws 2 INTs every game.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Jones was running ROUGHSHOD over the Colts in the Super Bowl when the geniuses on the sideline inserted Benson just because they had planned to and Cedric the "not much of an Entertainer" promptly gacked it up in the shadow of his own goalposts!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Don't forget the NFC Championship. Rex barely broke a sweat. Jones rushed all day. My favorite was the last TD of the game...Jones reverses and rushes about 15 yards to put the game away 39-14. What a game!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Didn't the Bears have a TD drive in that game with like 8-10 straight runs Halas? I think this will be another close game, with the Bears winning. Like I said last week, the Bears can't lose the turnover battle or give up a long touchdown pass (especially easy ones on blown assignments). I don't expect the Bears to put up a lot of points until they can run effectively in short yardage and red zone situations. Benson's emotions will get to him and he won't do much in the game. The Bears will move the ball effectively and keep Cincy out of the end zone. Bears win 23-16.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I honestly feel that if Lovie gave some kind of emotional speech like this in the lockeroom, the bears would be much more successful as a team. I want to see them fired up right from the start!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Jones was definitely the heart of the Offense that year and seemed to step up and make the big play every time that we needed one. Emotional leader. We could have extended him or tagged him if necessary. The way we handled the Benson situation had to be an insult to him. Who gives a shit about a partially divided locker room. We made it all the way to the Super Bowl. Let the veterans handle that until we aren't making it to the playoffs, like the last 2 seasons.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Yeah, Cormonster. That does sound familiar. I remember that Thomas Jones rushed for more yardage in that postseason than Walter did on the '85 Super Bowl run.

    Not that Thomas Jones is anything like Walter Payton. This whole conversation is beating a dead horse, but I don't care. I liked Jones. I think he was the best back the Bears had since Neal Anderson. Maybe Walter Payton himself.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    Best back since Brad Muster.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Adams to make debut Sunday. Full participation for hillenmeyer and idonije.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I don't know how you can't consider Forte a long term solution after what he showed us last year. I mean, what else do you want? Great combination of speed and power. A guy who can catch and run equally well. A guy with amazing vision, who hits the hole hard and can brake ankles with his moves. He proved that all last year. Hw can you question him five games into this season? It's hard for Forte to do his job right now because there is a defensive player waiting for him before he even gets the ball or because all the gaps are clogged.

    The run problem is an o-line problem. If I had to guess, I would say that the o-line could be the Bears biggest issue in the next couple seasons. They are aging, the 1st round "franchise" Williams has not played to the level everyone has expected, and captain Olin got owned last week and is insisting that high priced and under-performing Omilaye play beside him because he likes having a bigger body next to him. If the bigger body can't block, he is no good.

    With that, I say the o-line improves drastically this week. They know the finger has been pointed at them and probably want to shut everyone up. I also say that Forte has his first 100 yard game of the season and at least 1 TD. I know he's ready to shut everyone up too.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Because I remember Anthony Thomas! And no, pal, it's not JUST the O-Line. Was the O-Line better last year? I don't think so. I don't know if Forte is hurt or what, but I know I can't be the only person out there who thought Forte lost a step in that 61 yard run against the Lions that should have been 6 points, not a tackle at the five yard line. One fumble last year and three fumbles in 5 games this year indicates something is up. Someone else on Da Blog opined that he looked unfocused when hitting the holes. Rich Eisen described Forte as one of the biggest fantasy disappointments (and not that I give two shits about fantasy football...I think it is wicked) and he has a point.

    Last year is old news, buddy. The run game needs to start impressing now.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    I don't think Rich Eisen's opinions on fantasy football five games into the season is a good reference to explain away the running problems, but maybe that's just me pal. The 2008 Bears run game averaged 3.9 yards per carry and they ran the ball quite a lot. That is a shit ton better than what the o-line has produced this year. I'm not saying Forte couldn't be feeling some lingering injuries; I'm just saying stick with the guy after the consistency he showed us in 16 games last year.

    I just get tired of bipolar Bears fans who say one minute that the guy is the second coming of Sweetness or a franchise back and then the next minute say he may not be a long-term solution at RB. Have some faith in your guys, let them improve and fix the problem before calling for everyone's head after a quarter of the season. The O-line/Forte issue is like the chicken or the egg debate, no one will win that one. If Forte has 100 yards on the ground this week, there can be arguments made both ways that Forte or the line was the reason for the improvement, or a combination of both. Frankly, I don't give a shit as long as it improves. I'm just showing some loyalty to a guy that proved to me all last year that he works hard, is humble, has a good head on his shoulders, and can get it done in this league running, blocking, and catching.

  • In reply to TheGhostofHalas:

    It *is* just the offensive line.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    There are a couple problems preventing the running game from getting started. Number one, there have been too many battles lost in the trenches. Right now guys like Frank Omiyale and Chris Williams are losing far too many one on one match ups which doesn't allow for any consistency in the running game. To make matters worse, when the line DOES manage to create a seam or a hole, Forte looks a half step late or makes the wrong cut. This inconsistency plagues the running game and puts far too much pressure on Cutler to convert on 3rd and longs. While I don't think Wolfe is an every down back, I thought he took better advantage of the opportunities given when the o-line made some decent blocks. When guys our guys up front aren't getting blown off the ball, Wolfe seems to be the back running with more purpose and awareness. Forte, however, has the added ability to catch the ball out of the backfield which makes him a more versatile back. Point being, with Forte obviously not at 100%, I wouldn't mind seeing Wolfe getting a bit more of an opportunity to run the ball when this line finally DOES start to find some consistency.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Question. Is Cutler allowed to audible and under what circumstances? I know I felt totally comfortable with Orton calling a good play, not necessarily that he could make the deep ball throw but that he would call a smart adjustment when he saw trouble.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    If the O-line can't run block for shit go to the shotgun. Get Forte his yards from short passes if necessary or draws (which I am not too crazy about but what we're doing ain't working). Whatever moves the chains. With a big lead and long drives we will eventually wear their D out and then maybe we can run more consistently.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I am on board with your "Shotgun Solution" to the run game, Z, however, I cannot believe that a personality as forceful as Cutler's is not audibling and on a regular basis.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    From our "The Beat goes on" department...

    Tommie Harris sat out Wednesday's practice, which is customary, AND Thursday's, which is NOT. Per Vaughn McClure, look for Marcus Harrison to start at tackle Sunday.

    Not exactly "Man bites dog" news, is it?

    Regarding the continuing disappointment that is Mr. Harris since 2007, I give you these immortal words from John Greenleaf Whittier:

    "For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these,
    'It might have been.' "

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Considering Tommie plays what is supposed to be the most important position in Lovie's defensive scheme...I think the time is now to start thinking about who will play said position going forward. Tommie is never going to be 100% healthy. As a result, Tommie is never going to be the player we thought he was going to be. None of this is his fault, however, this position is far too important for the Bears to continue to pretend Tommie will come back healthy season after season after season.

    I'd imagine Tommie will play most of this season on one healthy leg while giving us some glimses of brilliance at times like he has the last couple of seasons. However, I hope the Bears give serious consideration to making a change come the offseason and don't try to sweep it under the rug once again.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Well I'll be there on the Bears side right around the 40. I'll be wearing my Ditka Jersey and screaming "GO D!" Let's hope my bear karma wins out. BEAR DOWN BEARS!!! Let's give Benson a REAL reason to be Bitter!

    Ron Turner...please throw the ball more and Please, no FORTE UP THE MIDDLE PLAYS on 1st down in the red zone. Trust me, they will be expecting it.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    We should have traded Tommie before we extended his contract and gave him a boat load of money.

  • In reply to JWilson:

    Or maybe we shouldn't have ridden Tank Johnson outta town so quickly.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    So I treated myself to the 1985 Bears DVD set on Amazon, and over the past few weeks have been watching the early-season games. Something struck me that I didn't quite remember from when I was 15 and watching those games live: the 1985 Bears were not impressive early--at least not on defense. The running game was anemic, and if not for #9, they could've (and probably should've) gone into the San Francisco game 3-2 or more likely 2-3.

    Why do I bring that up? There are some parallels here. This team is living and dying by #6. Cutler has a good game, it's a win. He has a bad game, it's a loss. The running game is anemic. Injuries to key players (in 1985, Duerson missed games early-on, the O-line had nagging injuries, Suhey got concussed, etc.). I am in no way implying that the 2009 version is as good as or will have a similar outcome, but what I am saying is that there are a lot of things we as Bears fans gloss over when we look at post-1985 teams, and we miss details.

    To wit: we assume the Bears are, always were, and will always be a running team and will have a powerhouse defense. And so Forte's struggles this year are not only cause for alarm, but cast in doubt his fitness for the future. It must be a critical problem--with Forte, likely--because the running attack is so anemic. I could go on, but I won't.

    Turner's play-calling has been... not good. But when Erik Kramer was QB, Turner did a pretty good job back then. So what's the difference? I don't know.

    I do know that the O-line is not playing up to par. Omiyale is Terribale; I gave up counting how many times he's standing up, watching the RB or QB get nailed by the guy he should've been blocking. Pace's false start on a critical play is inexcusable for a veteran of his status, but did you see where he false-started to? He fired off and blocked down; the play was an off-tackle run... and I don't know that it would have worked.

    Why isn't Cutler taking deep drops and slinging the ball to two of the fastest guys in the league (who are both developing into legitimate go-to receivers this year)? Sure, the offensive philosophy isn't completely in-line with gunslinging, but then, you don't buy a Ferrari to drive to the grocery store. The bigger part of the problem is that deep drops get him in trouble, because the O-line isn't holding blocks long enough.

    It's cliche, but it starts and ends at the line play, folks. I've heard/seen jack squat from the DTs since week 2, and the DEs were near-invisible last week. Given that the fast, mobile DT on the roster has been incognito for years now, and there's still a gigantic question mark at FS, and Roach isn't a "cover" MLB (hell, with his age, #54 isn't really a cover guy anymore, either), it might be time to give up on the Tampa-2. There certainly won't be any salvation in the draft next year.

    I forgot where I was going with this, but I'll close with this: when you have the same personnel and things get worse--or you upgrade personnel and things don't get better--it's not the personnel. I've said for a long time that the Bears fail where other teams succeed in developing young players at skill positions; had Rex gone to Green Bay, they might be saying "Brent Who?" up there now. I see Tommie Harris as not having improved from his rookie promise; I see Danieal Manning stuck in limbo despite his obvious gifts; I see Benson being allowed to drift and fall into trouble. The coaching staff has to change. Jauron's downfall was his unswerving loyalty to poopsacks like Shoop; Lovie got rid of his best assistant and is moving too slow on the rest (the Babich move was long overdue). This season is going to play out--hopefully with Turner loosening up the offense. But long term, there need to be some moves in the coaching staff and coaching philosophy.

  • In reply to IBNO:

    Nice post.

    How about Justin Gage on the Titans? We let him go and kept David Terrell. Whoops. The list goes on and on.

    The Sun Times ran a story this week that the problem starts with Lovie. And that the argument is that, Lovie is a coach who can build a team on paper only. He finds ways to lose close ones, he doesn't have Tuna-magic, that ability to bring a team together or the abilities of Belli-cheat to find loopholes and weaknesses in others (even by cheating)

  • In reply to IBNO:

    Cedric strikes me as the kind of guy too selfish to play politics. He should be washing his OL's cars and buying them steak dinners. My guess, based on his sulking years here, is that he doesn't do that shit. Thinks it is beneath him. Rather be out on his boat.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I think we need to quit babying Wolfe and get him in there to discern whether or not he can help the team going forward. He should be taking at least a third of the snaps at this point. With the roster restrictions being what they are, he can't simply be a good special teams player and a spot rb. Same with AP when he's healthy. They could provide a serious change of pace in the run game and force the other teams to spend some time gameplanning for them. Forte is good, and I agree that the short passing game can more than make up for a flat running game...especially with JC at the helm. And, as with the 49ers back in the day (when they were embarrassing the beloved on a regular basis) the short passing game will set up the running game.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Is AP back and playing in this game?

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    We need to punish cedric and ocho asshole get pressure on palmer and mix up the offensive play calling and jump on some bengal ass early and often BEAR Down!!!

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    I agree. This game is in Cincy, in that craphole state of Ohio.

    Bengals need to make a season of it. Lovie has no answers for the run game. 16-13 Bengals.

  • It was on one of the Twitter updates to the right on this site. I didn't catch who the twit being quoted was.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    It's still on there. The last one at the bottom. His name is Zach Zaidman it says.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Last Week vs. a highly suspect Texans' run defense:
    16 carries - 44 yards for for Cedric the "Not Much Of An Enetrertainer".

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Hey Cedric! How's the boating life?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    We've been through this years ago. The fact that Benson and TJ couldn't coexist is on them, not management. If they could have it would have great. Rich pricks with egos. They forced the situation which forced the trade. And at that time with the info they had, the Bears kept the right guy. I know in retrospect that sounds like bull, but with the video and knowledge they had seen AT THAT POINT, it made sense, and I agreed with it. My only beef was with how little we got in return for TJ. The Benson exposes himself as a candidate for the World's Biggest Assholes coffee table book, and we get rid of him. One of the few things I liked that management did during that period of time. Enter Forte, and sophomore slump or not I'm glad we've got him. I like him. He's not a candidate for world's biggest asshole. I think it is a slump, and i think will end. SO I agree with Jeff. Screw this guy. Get pissed of by him. Whether you were a part of the team then or not, here you have a self-absorbed prick who cares about no one but himself trying to play the victim and present that he was wronged by the team you play for and that hopefully you have some dedication and faith in. If you're on the D, you need to prove what we all know, he doesn't have the balls for it. Hit him and hit him hard. If you're Forte, prove that the Bears chose well.

    This is nuts, because for over a decade I've had the fantasy that the Bears will end Favre's career with a nasty sack but I'm actually to a place where if the Bears could only knock one more guy out of the league this year, I'd take Benson over Favre as that guy. How fitting would that be. He's nothing but a lot of talk and a paycheck.

  • He sat out an OTA or two with a pulled hammy, an injury prone to flareups.

  • Here's my take on Ced keeping it real and lasting in Natti. Folks in Cincy love their Bengals. They'll support Ced even when he ends up in the back of a police car (drunk) over border in Kentucky(that's where Cincy boys go to get all F'd up) He'll soon be popping off that region is racist and what not. Next thing you know he's out in Cincy. Give him time and give Tank time. They'll both BLOW IT because they think they can "get over" on fine folks of Ohio. Not! Both these cast offs are walking arrest warrants. Their going down Sunday. Can't wait for Briggsy to lay a Knock Out hit on Ced the Complainer...

  • Briggs is going to take Benson's head off @ some point. Can't wait. We didn't really open up the big holes that a back like Benson needs, but still, he looks about 10 lbs. lighter now than he did w/the Bears. After being "the man" his whole career, he didn't know how to deal with, you know EARNING his place on the team. That press conference where he said he expected to be the starter kind of set the tone for his bust-ish career w/the Bears.

    On another note, does anyone else think it's funny that we've got Cinci and Cleveland bookending Halloween? And then we'll be in orange jerseys on Nov. 1st, I'm guessing. It's going to be a two week sea of orange. Orange-a-palooza.

  • I think 30-10 is over the top. I see this as a 50-50 game but one that must be won due to the blowing of the Atlanta game last week. I feel like it'll be 21-17.

  • Good stats, but still difficult to compare the o-line's performance throughout all of '08 to the 5 games this year. Even though the running game has started in a similar fashion to last year, the o-line's run blocking did dramatically improve in '08 after the first quarter. That's all I'm asking from them to do. I like the idea of letting Cutler try the shotgun on 3rd and shorts. I also don't know why they haven't tried more screens to the flat with Wolfe and Forte. Matty proved he can be just as dangerous catching the ball out of the backfield than running it.

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