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Why do I like the Chicago Bears this week?

  • I always like the Chicago Bears.
  • The defense held the Falcons' run game in check last years, harassing Michael Turner for only fifty-four yards on twenty-five carries.  If they do the same Sunday night, the Falcons will be unable to sustain lengthy drives and control the pace of play.  When teams have left the Bears alive late, the Bears have capitalized.
  • Two major points on the pass defense.  (1) Charles Tillman needs to shadow the opponent's number one receiver all over the field moving forward and that means Roddy White.  Tillman may allow his man to make the catch but his sure-tackling will prevent the eleven-yard first down from becoming a forty-yard touchdown. (2) The Bears know that one of Brian Urlacher's strengths was defending the deep middle of the field and that Tony Gonzalez has built a Hall of Fame resume in that area.  If the Bears allow him to dominate the game, everyone should be fired.
  • Special teams.  And it's not even close.  Maynard is off to the best start of his career, Gould is automatic, and the return game - while not scoring - is the best in football.  Great specials can neutralize a good club on the road and that's what the Bears have.
  • Jay Cutler doesn't want to hear about Kyle Orton.  Matt Forte doesn't want to hear about Cedric Benson.  Hester/Bennett/Knox don't want to hear about Terrell Owens.  I expect our offense - for once - to play Sunday night with a chip on its shoulder.  I expect prolonged drives and third-down conversions.  I expect points.  Lots of points.
  • Because not one man on the 2008 roster should forget what happened in Atlanta last October.  The coaching staff and defense embarrassed themselves, wasting a brilliant comeback drive from Orton and the boys.  That game - those final 46 seconds - were the definitive moment of a painfully inconsistent season.  Redemption is not always available at the fix-ins bar.  Sunday night it is.

Chicago Bears 38, Atlanta Falcons 30

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  • (We're having tech difficulties so I'm forced to put Treason's post in the comments. He'll return to the big room next week.)

    Treason says...
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  • Atlanta suffered their only loss so far at New England in Week 3.

    The Good News? New England beat the Falcons by running the ball. Fred Taylor racked up 105 yards on 21 carries. They held Matt Ryan to less than 200 yards passing, mainly because Ryan wasn't on the field enough to do more damage. Michael Turner had only 56 yards on 15 carries.

    The Bad News? The Patriots put Matt Ryan on his fanny exactly ZERO times and the Falcons' defense kept them in the game by being very tough in the redzone.

    Bears' mission:

    On offense, move the ball consistently.
    Keep Ryan and Turner in spectator mode.
    Take FULL adbavtage of Redzone opportunities.
    Yes, they have a great Tight End but guess what, that's one of our strengths as well.

    On defense, get to Ryan, early and often, he hasn't been sacked much, maybe he rattles.
    Remind Turner that he had a crappy day against us last year and don't expect a better one this year.

  • I'm telling you. This will probably end up being a close game. Shootout likely. Bet the over.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    the over-under is 45....i might put a bill on that ($100)

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I believe we will do very well this week coming of the bye. We will dominate the falcons and prove to all the doubters out there that we are post season bound! Sometimes I feel like Chicago fans need to have more faith in our team. I hate all the negative articles that I read out there from week to week. We have an awesome team and I am excited about this weeks game! BEAR DOWN!

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    That means 24-21 you break even. Not a sure thing. But pretty damn likely. That's why it's gambling.

  • Last year hurt me more than any other loss the Bears have taken, because it showed a lack of killer instinct from the whole organization. Squib kicking up 1 point???? unacceptable. As for this week, the key is pressure. Simple as that. Put Peanut on White, maintain good run gap discipline and keep Ryan on his toes or his back. That's it, it's that simple. Their D can't stop our O, so if we can monopolize time of possession, hit a big play or two and our ST plays like their hair is on fire, it's a W. Gonzalez can't own the game if his QB is on his ass. Bears 35- Falcons 24

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    You know what else pissed me off about the squib kick last year that no seemed to take into account...had we kicked the ball off like normal, chances are that more time would have come off the clock. So, even if the Falcons had returned it to mid field, they may not have had enough time to hit a pass play and then kick a field goal...would have had to chuck it into the end zone. Okay, last year is over, I'm done.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    But you are right and I yelled that at the TV as it was happening. Oh I yeah I was yelling WTF are you doing really loudly too.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    No doubt Jeff, but I think D. Manning has proven he has just as much potential. Wouldn't be surprised to see Toub rotate guys this week and have the rook focus on the WR position for this critical game. I'm also in favor of letting both guys share returns to keep both fresh for their main responsibilities on the offensive and defensive side respectively. I say we get a relatively even dose of both guys on returns this year, at least that's what I'm hoping.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    The Bears are in every game because they can score as needed. It seems they have to be threatened by the other team first before Ron Turner turns the playbook to page 2 and take the handcuffs off of Cutler. No team is ever just going to outscore us without a response.

    Also, it seems Lovie has perfected the Halftime Defensive Adjustment and the Bears absolutely shut teams DOWN in the second half. They did it to all 4 teams they played and they'll do it to Atlanta.

  • In reply to StarkyLuv:

    Amen to the Lovie comment. BY FAR the biggest difference in the D is that they *adapt*. Credit Lovie.

  • In reply to MattySouthside:

    The current betting line is Atlanta -3.5 which, if you consider -3 points the standard allowance for "home field advantage", makes the game the proverbial toss-up.

  • I have a feeling Special Teams will be the difference. I think it's D. Manning's chance to be in the return spotlight this week. I thought he was the best in the league last year at kickoff returns. I think he is just as fast as Knox. I hope Toub's unit finally gets some national recognition for having the best specials unit in the game for the last several years. Just found out that Shaw is leading the team with special teams tackles; looks like a silent sound pick up. I'm ready to put some shoulder pads on but it's only Thursday!

  • I think Danieal Manning's time on kickoffs is over, crown. Johnny Knox has been spectacular thus far.

  • Wonder just how much faster Lovie's team will be on the inside arty turf @ The G-Dome? Hester,Knox,Harris,Anderson, Briggs, Manning,Forte and rest of team will excel on this surface. Lovie has build Bears in the mold of Super Bowl Rams. Quick and Quicker. Think Bears have too much speed for Falcons. It's all about the mismatches and we'll have more in our favor Sunday night. Speed Kills! BEAR DOWN.

  • I even read someone suggest that we should send a 2nd rd pick if necessary. No, no, no. If Mayers says it ain't happening, it ain't happening. Done.

  • I think the Bears will win in another close game 23-20. They have to avoid losing the turnover battle, giving up a long touchdown, and win the field position battle with their special teams. I HOPE they can run the ball effectively, but I need to see it to believe it first. It would be nice to see 35 carries for 140-150 yards and control the time of possession. The D needs to hold them to under 100 rushing yards and get some pressure on the QB. If the Bears can get some pressure, they're due for a multi-pick game.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    You just had to leave me a little short on the over huh? 1 FG.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I've changed my mind. The Bears will win 26-20. Actually, I don't have a good feel for what's gonna happen in this game. If we hold them under 3 TDs I think the Bears win.

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Sweet. You have restored my faith!

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    I know nothing about this guy aside from draft status, stats, and what I've read online. One stat that stood out for me was his Wonderlic score. He scored a 7, out of 50 questions. That's horrible. He better have good football instincts. You have to be smart and be able to read and react quickly to be a good DE in the NFL, and KNOW when it's your job to contain the edge and not get outflanked. Hopefully Marinelli can pound this into his head and he can learn. I think it's a risky trade, but maybe we win the jackpot.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Jay Glazer says what most of us were already thinking:
    TO ain't coming.
    http://twitter.com/Jay_Glazer/status/4922424796

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    All eight supposed NFL experts are picking the dirty pigeons. They say its a lock. I say we abuse and neglect Matt Ryan & Co like Balloon boy's parents did to him yesterday.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Boys, i'm really excited to have Pisa back this week. the clips on the bears site show that he is healthy again. if he stays healthy you will see him blowing up guys like he did all preseason. It is a relief to have a guy like that back on the field. Screw the pundits and screw the talking heads. This sunday is going to be a war and i predict a 10 point victory and a Knox or Hester return.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Off topic, and granted I am biased, but the NFL Network is doing the Top Ten Turnarounds of all time. They've talked about the 1970 Dolphins, 1981 49ers, 1997 Jets, and of course the 2006 Saints...

    ...but where are the 2001 Bears? A decade of losing and disappointment ended by one of the most magical season I can remember as a Bears fan. Not even honorable mention?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Ghost if I remember correctly that was the season withthose crazy back to back comebacks against cleveland and San Fran right?

    That was unreal.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Yes, two Mike Brown overtime interception returns for touchdowns in back to back weeks. It truly was an amazing season.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Quick question for the panel...

    In your expert opinions were either of those two comeback superior to the Cardinals game on MNF?

    Im not gonna lie, during that cardinals game, I left the bar and was waiting for a cab, only to hear a roar, came running back in to see what was unfolding...Im embarrassed to say I quit on the team that game.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    they were different types of victories, some punctuated by defensive TD's and some by kick returns. i loved them both. i was at both Mike Brown return games. it was complete and utter LUNACY after the games. Blacks hugging whites, israelis hugging palestinians, city workers hugging yuppies...magical

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    the may be the kick ass red coming out, but this will be Daniel Mannings coming out party at safety. He's getting smarter every week, and with his athletic abilty that is plain dangerous. I'm predicting a pick or two and he'll be all over the field. bear out with your bad selves.....

  • In reply to TheFifth:

    Good point BDG, I had a high school coach who always chose to kick. Is that patting your D on the back? or smacking your O in the face?

  • http://www.theonion.com/content/news/espn_completely_misses_brett_favre
    This is more related to some earlier posts, but it's a funny parody of sports reporting, ESPN in particular.

  • yeah, that was good

  • Good points, Max. And you're correct that it was Mike Wallace and not Santonio Holmes involved in that play. I have no idea why I wrote Holmes (maybe because Jeff rushes me into writing these things at 3:30 am on Tuesdays).

    I think Wallace beat Tillman and, had BenRo not been hit, the pass would have found him, in stride, in the end zone. I think Steelers fans are crazy for thinking Wallace could have stopped short and come back to make a play on the ball. First off, all of his momentum was going one way. Second, the field was wet. That ball was severely under-thrown. Wallace had no chance.

    And if you look at where Afalava was, you'll see there's no way he makes a play on that throw. If BenRo doesn't get pressure on THAT particular play, and THAT particular moment, that ball definitely goes another 15 yards and meets Wallace in stride.

    Whether or not he catches it is another issue. But either way, it was a good scoring opportunity that could have gone against the Bears' favor.

    I think Bears special teams needs to be a serious factor in order for them to win this game.

  • You Bears fans sound like you don't expect to win this week. Good. Because you won't.

    I'm betting $50 on the Falcons to cover the spread. I'm going to bet another $50 on the over.

    After this game, Atlanta's schedule gets really tough. four of their next five come on the road against Dallas, New Orleans, Carolina and the Giants. This game at home is a MUST WIN for the Falcons. They're going to come out blazing.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    It's weird. You posted that like it's supposed to sting or something. I actually LIKE when non-Chicagoans hate on the Bears.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Jeff,
    headin out today, we start fast and force a turnover early we punish the falcons we are kinda flying under the radar ESPN FOLKS only remember our loss so with that being said Bears 28 Falcons 14 Cant wait for Sunday night in the Dome hope more bear fans are there while im screamin at the top of my lungs while the rest of the dome is silent!!! BEAR DOWN!!!

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Bears will win big

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    i was just watching the Falcons game from last year and i had forgotten that we drove on their ass in a 6 minute drive with 13 mintues left and called some pretty shitty plays on the goal line to get stuffed at the 1. We then held them to 3 and out, got the ball back drove down the field AGAIN. scored...and you know the rest. the point is that ESPN wants to crown their asses so let them crown them. we drove on them just like they drove on us so ESPN. Get off of the Falcons' nuts. This is a completely viable victory for the Bears. As long as we don't piss away the game in almost every phase like last year. Playcalling, kick return, shitty goal line playcalling, etc.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    If we gave up 24 to the Lions then I am pretty sure Atlanta will do that or more unfortunately. We need to score and score often.

    Go Bears!!

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Wasn't trying to single anybody out, BDG. I only became aware
    of Abraham's size when NFL NET's Jamie Dukes talked about the matchup with Pace last night and it prompted me to check out Abe's stats.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Well, well, well. Can you say "disrespect".

    Here's a an uncalled for and particularly SNOTTY piece from
    The Atlanta Journal Constitution's D. Orlando Ledbetter...

    http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2009/10/15/cutler-has-conquered-the-georgia-dome-vs-smitty/

    By the tone of this tripe, you'd think Cutler had left THE FALCONS for Chicago!

    One good fact gleaned from this article:

    The Dirty Birds are 11-1 under Mike Smith in the Georgia dome and Jay Cutler is 1-0 vs Mike Smith in the Georgia Dome.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    So, Naturally, I could not just let D. Orlando Ledbetter off the hook without posting a comment on the AJC site.

    I goes as follows:

    This is weak.

    What an absolutely snotty piece of tripe you authored, Mr. Ledbetter.
    Based on the tone of this article one would think Jay Cutler had "whined & hissed" his way out of ATLANTA instead of Denver.

    I would hope this column could be viewed as your equivalent of say, Jay Cutler's "first half against Green Bay" as opposed to representing the main body of your work.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Nicely done Al!

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Sniff, sniff. What IS that oder?

    Oh, THERE it is.

    Keyshawn Johnson passing this gas on ESPN Radio as I blog:

    "Knox is not a #1 guy. Devin Hester should just be doing special teams..." !?!?!???!

    What games are YOU watching Mr. "Just throw me the damn ball"?

    This, from a guy who made himself soooo "personna non grata" in Tampa he was basically told "We can't STAND you, Keyshawn. Take your ATTITUDE, take your MONEY, take your MOUTH and TAKE A HIKE!" .

    Same show, Chris Mortensen speculates that Chefs receiver, Dewayne Bowe, might be moved. Forget T.O., I find Bowe VERY appealing as a potential Cutler target.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Like Bowe. Keep trading picks Angelo. For proven players over his hit and miss record. No problem. He does better with 4th and later picks anyways value-wise.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    And this from a Browns fan bitching about Braylon Edwards catching everything thrown at him Sunday after so many drops in Cleveland.

    "I was gonna burn my #17 Edwards jersey, but i kept dropping the damn lighter."

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Ahahahahahahahahaha!

    Leno needs to sign that kid.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Yeah just insurance. Hopefully we sign em both to reasonable contracts.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    Jeff. Did you watch the 2nd half of the Lions game? Our return game has scored. And I am done reading the moronic comments of this chick you've brought in, please replace her with someone that understands football and maybe even actually watches the Bears games.

    On Gaines Adams, I think this finally makes Izzy a DT. Now go put the 25lbs of muscle back on Izzy, we need more pressure there. Only thing that worries me and I don't know a great deal about the differences in the 2 spots but Gaines played RDE and that is where Alex Brown plays... I thought we learned not to take Brown off the field, didn't we?

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    1. When did I ever say the return game hasn't scored?

    2. It's not a chick. And he's been brought in to provide the other side's perspective each week. Deal with it.

    3. Are you guys really debating who is going to get cut? We do all realize that none of the players we're mentioning will ever actually suit up for a game this year, right?

  • In reply to JeffHughes:

    1. "and the return game - while not scoring"
    2. Then bring in someone who can provide intelligent perspective.
    3. Lance Louis might cut himself depending on what happens with the courts.

  • In reply to mikemuadib:

    I wonder what Julius Jones thinks of Charles Tillman's sure tackling to prevent an 11 yard pass into becoming a 40 yard touchdown. Hmm...

  • In reply to TheConsummator:

    Yeah, no shit. People forget Peanut missed PS with a SHOULDER issue. He saw Jones squaring up on the sideline and said "I have MLB help coming, I think I will just go for the strip. That's what I'm known for anyhow..."

    Unfortunately, that MLB was Hunter 'Pinball' Hillenmeyer.

  • In reply to TheConsummator:

    Do you guys think that Jay Cutler feels like a dumbass now for leaving one of the best football franchises in the NFL for Chicago... I mean the guy now plays in a boring offense while KO is throwing up Pro Bowl numbers?? I bet Jay would do anything to be Brandon Marshall hugging JMAC... Oh well Go Chicago Bears!!!
    Love, Kyle Orton

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Rookie coach Raheem Morris singled out the 6-foot-5, 258-pound defensive end on the opening day of training camp, saying Adams would be considered a "bust" if he didn't post double-digit sacks this season.

    The 26-year-old said during training camp that he welcomed the challenge posed by Morris, who also called out the third-year pro after Adams began the season with lackluster performances in the first three games.

    "In football you need that. Players tend to get in their own element and do things that they want to do. They need to be called out sometimes. He's the coach. Whatever he says, goes," Adams said in early August.

    "I take it as a challenge. Being drafted fourth overall, that comes with the territory. It's year three for me. Obviously it's time for me to step up."

    At least he doesn't have Cedric Benson's attitude.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Once again, I will GLADLY "take one for the team" this week.

    Michael Turner was my #1 (3rd overall) pick this year and he IS in my lineup.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Please, please, PLEASE, Bears! Do some "dirty bird" stomping so we can rain more derision upon Mr. Ledbetter come next Monday!

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Speaking of that article - are there any parenthesis and exclamation points left in Atlanta???
    See below:
    http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-falcons-blog/2009/10/15/cutler-has-conquered-the-georgia-dome-vs-smitty/#comment-13787

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Izzy says he is playing this week. What an athletic freak! I doubt the coaches OK it but got to love his heart and determination after just getting his knee scoped and cleaned. This guy has quickly become one of my favorite players on the team. Specials beast on coverage and on FG blocks, and can play in multiple spots on the D-line. Ryan is hard to get on the ground. But, if we can force him to throw early and out of bounds and get into the backfield on run plays we will be just fine. I agree we need to score first. Lets go fellas.

  • In reply to Treasoner:

    Have you guys ever heard Ledbetter talk? He is about the most clueless POS I have ever heard. The fact that he is the main writer just shows how pathetic that news outlet is...The guy is a joke...He was on B&B the other day and they basically had to hold themselves back from laughing AT him...later in the show they gave the producer a little crap for scheduling the call...

  • Now it sounds like you are nervous, Jeff, I mean Voice of BS.

  • My take is that every (four letter network) is on Atlanta's jock right now because maybe they elevated SF's status a little higher than they should have been. Maybe SF just had a bad day, couldnt stop the run and then the house of cards came tumbling down. mT hasn't been playing lights out like last year's out of the gate performances (until he met us). The Bears just need to go in their and show them a HotRod coached D-line that didnt exist in last years game. A well rested TH after the bye should ensure about two plays from him in this game and a revitalized contract year Ogie should also provide some opportunities that the Falcons have yet to see. This is not the same team they faced last year, granted neither are they, but either way since everybody and their mother is taking them, even if I wasnt a Bear fan I would be seeing the stage set for an ESP? letdown.

    If they lose, ESPN will be lined up with a Christmas list of excuses for this team because right now they are the current darlings of the league (except for the Vikings, don't forget them)

    QB pressure, special teams, turnovers and ToT will decide this game. Could be any one of those things.

    Go Bears

  • I believe I saw John Abraham characterized on Da Blog as one of those "undersized" pass rushers that gives Orlando pace problems.

    Be advised: Abraham lists at 6' 4" and 256lbs. He IS a speed rusher, but he is hardly "undersized".

    That being said, Pace keeping Abe "Honest" IS a key matchup in this game.

  • People keep saying Olsen needs to "step up". Olsen doesn't need to do anything. It's a GOOD THING Olsen hasn't had a lot of catches. That's because the other receivers are making a LOT of plays. Olsen will get balls thrown at him when Jay feels he needs to do that. No need to force things to him "just because".

  • Cue Denny Green:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_N1OjGhIFc

    "The Bears are what we thought they were. Th-they're what we thought they were. We played them in preseason. I mean, who the hell takes the third game of the preseason like it's bullshit? Bullshit! (Where was this video in preseason? We should make it a tradition.) We played them in the third game, everybody played three quarters... the Bears are who we thought they were! That

  • Doc I thought Denny Green was going to have a coronary right there hahahaha........bless his heart

  • The Bears are who we thought they were!!!!!! Who the hell takes the third game of the preseason like its Bullshit BULLSHIT!!!!!! hahahaha classic!!

  • I don't know, men. MY vote goes to the Browns game in '01.

    Don't forget that they were still down by FOURTEEN with less than 1 minute to play against the Browns. It took a 9-yarder, Matthews to Booker, a successful onside kick AND a successful "Hail Mary" to James Allen JUST TO GET TO O.T. and set up Mike Brown's "Encore for the ages".

    You could see the momentum slowly shifting to the Bears in the Cardinal game and Arizona still had time to come back and miss a very makeable field goal attempt after Hester's punt return.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    you are very right ....... that browns game had several miracles back to back......the touchdown.....then onside recovery.....followed by a freaking hail mary and the first play of OT a pick 6 ......wow!!! now that's a hat trick + 1 I'd never seen anything like it.....I was bartending at the time and the place went bonkers

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    hot off the wire:

    Tampa Bay traded DE Gaines Adams to the Bears for a '10 draft pick thought to be a second-round pick.

    (courtesy of Adam Schefter of the 4-letter network)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    This means Wale is gone after this season for sure...Rod, work your magic.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Marinelli was actually coaching in TB when the Bucs drafted Adams.

  • In reply to BearDown1982:

    Boys, a solid defensive line and the addition of a young man with tons of upside potential in the hands of Rod with the badass motherfuckers we have at linebacker are the building blocks of a shut down defense. A little free agent spendy spendy for some Dback help in the offseason and oops...we've just created Monsters of the Midway part 3. Dead fucking birds...

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    that coupled w/ getting a #1 in the offseason and that's what they call a juggernaut fellas

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    All I have to say about ANOTHER kind of trade the Bears NEVER make is...

    "Who are you people and what have you done with the Bears' management?"

    Here's the skinny on Mr. Adams:

    6 ft. 5 in. / 258 lbs.

    Tampa's #1 pick (4th overall) in the 2007 draft out of Clemson.

    Has started all 36 games since he was drafted.

    13.5 career sacks. Only 1 so far this season.

    Nabbed 2 interceptions, including a "pick 6", last season
    with 6.5 sacks.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    Don't intend to bring up bad memories, but that pick 6 he had last year was against Kyle Orton and the Bears.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    And now he will benefit from Professor Marinelli's
    "Advanced Rushmen" classes.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    really, i'd like to see them cut iglesias. i mean really, what has he done since he's been on the squad? he disappeared in pre-season, hasn't even played a game yet....i mean what are they holding him on for?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    No way they release Iglesias. They'll go with Shaw, McClover, Louis or Toeaina.

  • In reply to Shady:

    ok. can you justify why you keep iglesias (besides as for packaging a trade type thing)?

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    He's not a good special teams player, I can say that.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    so what? gaines was the 4th OVERALL pick of the draft in '07. look where he's at now...

    just sayin' bro. there's really no reason to keep him b/c other players have more upside (unless we cut one of the practice squad guys)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    This guy experienced a little Benson-itis boys, 18.5 mil guaranteed, young guy, probably lost a little motivation after seeing seven 0's in his fucking checking account, good first year, average 2nd year...
    you know the rest. the leaders of our team and our dline coaches will create Alex Brown Jr out of this fucking kid. and if he ends up sucking he cost about 900,000 per year. peanuts in the pros considering how much money the Bears have.

  • In reply to Shady:

    Because he was a 3rd round pick, simple as that.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    i wanna see what they say about this move b/c for a 2nd rounder, we could've packaged a deal to get nmandi and IMMEDIATELY implemented him on sunday. they must be doing this to bolster the inside just in case tommie fucks up (he can play inside too)

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    I'm all for it. Competition never hurt anyone. As is '06, I like having a deep D-line where we can substitute guys and not worry that the level of play will decline. Adams was the 4th overall pick in the 07 draft so he must have some potential.
    Stats: 83 tackles, 13.5 sacks, 2 ints, 1 TD in 2 years and 5 games. 10 tackles and 1 sack this year.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    I turned off that game with like 1:47 left and we had just punted or something and I was so disgusted I started flipping around during the commercial and got distracted and saw at the bottom ticker that we had won in OT. I quit on them and I learned a valuable lesson. That will never happen again.

  • In reply to Albertintucson:

    He had 6 and 6.5 sacks and 2 INT, 1 for a long TD in his 1st 2 years on a steadily declining TB D. I think this is the perfect project for Marinelli and inexpensive insurance against losing Wale and Anderson so we can hopefully get some Secondary help next year and a #1 WR and we will be stacked.

  • Relax. This is a move for the future, not necessarily the present.

    AB and Wale will keep their starting jobs and Gaines will spell 'em off the bench.

    I was wondering about the future of the position myself before the season. Both Ogunleye and Anderson are in contract years right now and we're seeing some nice production. Gaines Adams will serve as competition to arguably the most important position on defense, and Adams will serve as protection in terms negotiations with Cliff Stein and the player's agents.

    Does anyone know how many years Adams has left on his rookie contract?

    JA and Lovie finally got their man. He seems like a great fit for the defensive scheme and I'm sure the Bears did their homework.

    I'll admit, a 2nd rounder for a guy who is struggling in terms of production for an '07 #4 overall pick is a bit questionable. But look at it this way, the guy is a hell of a talent and should be some nice clay for Coach Marinelli to work with.

    Angelo is pulling out all the stops.

  • Will you be watching my division leading team on Monday Night?? Love Kyle Orton

  • Very interesting move. I like it going forward in the next couple of years. But for this year I would have loved to see them make this move for a safety.
    From what I've been hearing from Hub Arkush amongst others Wale has been a gonner all along. I can't disagree with it, when he was brought here in a blockbuster deal he was supposed to have the impact Jared Allen has had in Minnesota. Well even in his best years he's never come close to that.

  • I think the Bears brass has made the decision to keep Gilbert inside, I don't see the move as a slap in the face. You're right though, Marinelli was in Detroit while Gruden and Kiffin were coaching in TB at the time.

    Don't you have the feeling this is going to be a boom or bust trade?

  • I was at that 49er game right after 9-11, when Shane Matthews tied it at the end of regulation with a td pass to David Terrell. It was an incredible comeback and win. That game and the Vikings last year were the two most exciting I've seen at Soldier Field.

  • Excited that they made a move to shore up the D-line long term at low risk....HOWEVER, for that pick, we could have Nnamdi.
    Nnamdi would make us co-front runners in the division instead of the dark horse (GB is going to be out of it by mid-season and Detroit...).

  • I think it would take some lower-round picks plus the 2nd, but it could be done. Hell, throw in an expiring contract like Wale if you have to. Oakland's not going anywhere; what the hell do they care? Picks and cap space will make them happy.

  • Relax, FQD1911, most of US would have sent "Don't Call Me Julio" Iglesias packing in camp, but it is still a given that the Bears will NOT dump anything as high as a #3 pick after only 1 season.

    Management HAS progressed in several areas, such as jumping at the chance to snap up an available franchise QB or this move to acquire Adams, but you can't expect ALL the bad habits to go away at once. They have shown absolutely NO inclination to part with 3rd rounders and up without a PROLONGED (more than 1 camp) look. I would say you'll see Iglesias kept at least thru next pre-season.

    Damn, Shady, now that you mention it, I can SEE that pick from last year. One of K.O.'s most terrible throws!

  • If the the Raiders DO move Nmamdi, it will be a shame that we missed him. He IS one of the best corners in football.

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