Bears Should Trade For Ronde Barber

I watched about seven minutes of the heinous ballgame between the Tampa Bay Bucs and Washington Redskins Sunday because I may or may not have had a wager on it.  (I did.  It was the lone ray of sunlight, outside of Chicago, in a dismally dark gambling day.)  My brother Jon argued it was the worst game played in the NFL in a long time.  From those seven minutes, I can't disagree.  But one thing stuck out...

Why the hell is Ronde Barber still playing in Tampa Bay?  Monte's gone.  Derrick's gone.  Simeon and Warren are long gone.  Dexter's in the UFL.  The heyday of the Bucs' defense has shuffled into the NFL history books.  Ronde is no longer the elite corner he was half a decade ago but he can still field the hell out of the position.  So why is he still playing in Tampa?

I don't care.  Ronde is the one of the best Cover-2 corners there's ever been and the Bears aren't leaving the Cover-2 in the near future.  By dumping a late-round pick, the Bears would invigorate a struggling secondary and add a necessary veteran presence.  Ronde, who is hating the Tampa media at the moment, would have to welcome the jump to a contender and relish the opportunity take one more run at a championship. 

I'm not trying to sound like a wacky sports radio call-in guy.  I know trades are complicated in the NFL.  The salary cap makes that a fact.  But this move makes too much sense for both sides for the Bears not to make an exploratory phone call.  Why would the Bucs, clearly rebuilding, shy away from dealing a veteran who won't be around for the rebuilt?  Why wouldn't the Bears, clearly needy at corner, think dealing a fourth rounder worth the services of a player this talented?

Will it happen?  Probably not.  Why?  Because it makes too much sense. 

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  • i'd have to see some stat to be OK w/ this shit here (sorry Jeff, love your posts, but i can't ride w/ this one just yet)

  • I didn't get a chance comment on your last post, but that was one of the best you have ever constructed, Jeff. I think you pinned down the situation in the NFC North better than I have ever heard it before. Good job!

  • Ronde barber? I'd take him, even though I have no idea what the Bears have to offer.

    Trades are still not common in the NFL but, guess what?
    Erstwhile browns pass-dropper, Braylon Edwards, is a New York Jet today.

    Everything I have heard / read about that Bucs / Skins game basically says if it was a builing, it would have been condemned.

    Steve Czaban, Fox Radio host, gave Washington a big "Boooo" on his website, www.czabe.com, yesterday even though they won!He pronouced Tampa as "being in the wildcat all day" with new QB Josh Johnson, and labeled Jason Campbell as being of "backup" quality. All that from a life-long Redskin fan.

  • Details on the Edwards transaction from NFL.COM. Of most interest is the 3rd paragraph:

    The Cleveland Browns traded wide receiver Braylon Edwards to the New York Jets, according to multiple sources. Terms of the deal have not been disclosed. According to NFL.com sources, the Jets traded third-year wide receiver Chansi Stuckey, third-year linebacker Jason Trusnik and two undisclosed draft picks.

    Edwards, Cleveland

  • Yesterday's post? Goooood. Today's post? Baaaad.

    Ronde Barber? Really? Day. Old. Bread. And for a 4th or 5th rounder? That's a joke, right? Looks what JA has been able to do with those picks in recent history, and now those picks become even more valuable to the future of this team now that the Bears have traded this years' 1st rounder to Denver for Cutler.

    How about a RB or WR who might actually be willing to run on special teams?

    And regarding the Braylon Edwards trade, I think it was a good move for both sides. Not only was Edwards a headache for Cleveland this year, but the Browns have 2 very promising rookie WRs in Robiskie and Massaquoi who can be just as if not more productive than Edwards would have been. If you're a Jets fan, you should be happy your new "franchise" QB Sanchez finally has some weapons to play with on the outside which should make life a bit easier on the rookie.

  • "Izzy" got scoped.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-07-bears-chicago-oct07,0,4617695.story

  • I've been a Bears fan for a long time - the first QB I remember was Bob Avellini. Booooooo Bob.

    In that time, outside of the Cutler thing, I have never seen the Bears build via blockbuster trade. Ever. Always it has been building via free agency and the draft.

    Now this Cutler thing comes along, and everybody on the train, in the city at restaurants - everywhere - want to keep trading. It's like the freakin Genie is out of the box.

    Look - Zack Bowman and Peanut are not Champ Bailey in his prime. We get that. Vasher may have lost all the foot speed needed to even play in the NFL, anyone with eyes can see that. And DJ Moore isn't going to line up the Falcon's Marty Booker. Yeah, we know.

    But let's not start shuffling picks out the door for vets. Barber is no better than than Deriick Brooks. What is with the fetish-ization of Chucky's Tampa 2 Super Bowl team? Hell - let's go get Jermaine Phillips and maybe John Lynch while we're at it!

    Or not.... let's stick with the guys we have. I agree Barber may:

    A. Have something in the tank
    B. Want out of Tampa

    I'd give away a 4th rounder for him on a 2-yr deal with nothing but incentives on year 2. But there are other corners out there who could work as well.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    you mean Monte Kiffin/Tony Dungy's Tampa 2 defense right? well if you didn't, you should have. :-)

  • In reply to gpldan:

    The day old bread argument just doesn't hold water. He made the Pro Bowl ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2008.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    And I'll never understand why folks don't get this about the Bears...leave the offense alone. They're terrific. They can score. WE CAN NOT STOP THE PASS.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    Speaking of pass defense, someone explain this to me...Calvin Johnson lite the Bears up in the first half. It appeared that the Bears were letting either Bowman or Tillman cover him depending on which side he lined up on...sometimes, one on one with no safety help (see first play of the game, cough, cough). At half time, the Bears adjusted...having Peanut shadow Johnson while telling DManning to shade toward Johnson's side no matter what the entire second half...double coverage if you will. And, apparently it worked, because Johnson was no where to be found after halftime. Now, if I'm Lovie Smith...and I know Calvin Johnson is the only legitimate weapon the Lions can use to hurt me...why did I not use the 2nd half game plan from the get go?

  • In reply to gpldan:

    BD...you're dead right. The reason is simple. Lovie has to constantly fail out of the scheme. He believes one corner plays the left side, one plays the right. He doesn't match up or deviate from a soft cover 2 in the back. That is until they fail out of the scheme.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I'd be surprised if Charles Tillman doesn't shadow Roddy White and Ochocinco the next two ballgames.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    after taking the advice of a fellow Bears enthusiast on here, not getting caught up on rankings this early in the game, but dammit i'd be lying if this didn't make me smile:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/06/week-four-power-rankings/

    (and i quote)

    7. Chicago Bears (Last week: 11). The Bears enter their bye week at 3-1 and rising, thanks to the franchise quarterback who didn't look much like a franchise quarterback in Week One but who has looked like a franchise quarterback since.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    It is way too early to be making predictions on who is where. Even after 8 games last year GB had like 5 wins and then they go 1-7 to finish and are one of the worst teams in the league.

    After about 10-12 games you can see more what will happen. The fact is the Titans could still go 12-4, will they.. probably not but it is way too early to do rankings imho.

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    i dont even evaluate teams until 8 games in....

  • In reply to FQD1911:

    CAVEAT EMPTOR:

    Since he's been cited a couple of times in this thread, I just thought I would let everyone know that I think Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk stinks out loud.

    Last week, he reported that Randy Moss wanted out of New England.

    Rodney Harrison immediately told Dan Patrick that that was absurd.

    Patrick had Florio on his radio show where Mr. Mike ADMITTED he'd just MADE IT UP, based on his own musings and Moss' behavior when he was in Oakland. He not only admitted it, he seemed pretty smug about it as if makin' up stuff was no big deal to him.

    Apparently, he got his degree from the Sears & Roebuck School of Sports Journalism.

    Patrick, whose radio show I have come to enjoy, did NOT pounce on him, which I DIDN'T enjoy. Probably because Florio's DanNation regular and they are both employed by NBC SPORTS.

    As far as I'm concerned, when you admit you made up a story, you have just taken any and all credibility as any kind of journalist, sports or otherwise, and flushed right down the toilet.

    In other news..

    Seems to me that in a league where capable defensive backs are at a premium, Chris McAlister would have been employed long before now if he had anything left in the tank. This would be his 11th season (it's Ronde Barber's 13th) but he has not played a full season since 2006.

  • In reply to gpldan:

    I would trade a 6th or 7th rounder for Barber but that is about it... Bowman and Tilman handled Ward and Holmes all day long.. all day. Bowman kept Burrleson in front of him all day and limited his impact, and one of our more physical corners (Corey Graham) doesn't see the field. Plus we have a high paid Vasher and a young DJ Moore waiting in the wings. We can only field two corners, we don't even bring in a 3rd for nickel. If we look at DBs we should look at definite starters and I am not so sure Barber starts here. Personally I don't think he is much better than Bowman/Graham and he is way older so the speed and long term gain are really out the window.
    We had a chance at Dawkins for FS and Bodden at CB in the offseason for free and we didn't even look into it, why would we go for someone now that we would have to give picks up for.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Or hell go get Chris Mcallister, he won't cost you anything and he is a better corner than Ronde and younger too I think.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Ronde sounds good, and I also agree with Mcallister. One things for sure we need help back there.

    Go vote for Knox for rookie of the week.

  • In reply to dutsami:

    Vote for Matt Forte too.

    http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=players-air-and-ground&season=2009&seasonType=REG&week=4

    http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies&season=2009&seasonType=REG&week=4

  • In reply to dutsami:

    can anyone say nnamdi asomugha

  • Too bad, gpldan.
    You JUST MISSED "The Gary Huff Years".
    He made Avellini look like John Unitas.

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