Growing Tired of Tommie Harris

'Tommie is strong, motivated, bright, perfect for the system,''
Marinelli said. ''He was banged up last year. He seems pretty healthy.
... This group is going to compete. It is exciting to see them come
together.''
- Chicago Sun-Times, July 24th

"Rod Marinelli is full of shit." - Jeff Hughes, August 10th

Tommie Harris isn't healthy today.  He wasn't healthy in March.  He wasn't healthy in 2008.  He's never healthy anymore.  Harris revealed today that he had a scope in March and has been dealing with the lingering after-effects on his hamstring.  Then he capped off his brilliant sermon with this gem:
The hardest thing is, knowing how political this business is, and
having to wear pads and sit on the sideline acting like I'm going out
there and different stuff like that, but it's a bit frustrating but I'm
going to hang in there and just see how it plays out.

No, Tommie, you're wrong.  The hardest thing is watching a defensive tackle eat forty million dollars of contract while standing on the sideline week-after-week because he's never healthy enough to play football.  The hardest thing was facing Peyton Manning in the Super Bowl without the star defensive tackle on the field because he's never healthy enough to play football.  The hardest thing was experiencing Tommie Harris' 2008 suspension for not being mature enough to play professional football.

I don't root for Tommie Harris and I'm not ashamed to admit it.  I hope he sacks the quarterback on every play but I don't root for him.  I root for Israel Idonije and Adewale Ogunleye and especially Alex Brown.  I root for them because they show up every Sunday and they shut up the rest of the week.  Show up and shut up.  Tommie Harris hasn't done either in a long time.

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  • can we rate these blog posts? b/c this one deserves the highest rating possible; tommie needs to drink a nice double gulp of shut the fuck up and play ball. seriously....

  • Seeing stuff like this in the news makes me pissed off that when I had the money to buy a jersey, I was drinking the Tommie kool-aid. I could've saved money and bought the one I almost did (Israel Idonije).

    As for covering this shit up, I think it's planned by the front office to let little shit slip out every once in a while, so that fans won't realize that there are a lot of troubles with the team.

    I'm still expecting the Bears to run away with the North, but will no longer be surprised if they don't march through the playoffs like I thought they would after the draft.

  • For 40 MILLION DOLLARS we could have built a time machine, traveled back in time to roughly 2002, snatched up Warren Sapp and had him start at the 3 technique. Instead we pissed it away on a guy whose career ended in 2006.

  • Tommie Harris is a thief. He's a cedric benson, a Curtis Enis, a Rashaan Salaam, a regular Moose Muhamad. Another guy in a long line of guys who has stolen money from the beloved. The worst part about this version of cade mcnown is that he showed us how good he could be, before ultimitely becoming mediocre. he'll be fine in the rotation, but i highly doubt he'll ever be the difference maker he once was. How about a F tommie harris rodeo?

  • You've got SOME nerve, Jeff. How DARE you be right!

    Seriously, I am already on record here as having little or no faith in Harris.

    Unfortunately, this also begs the question:
    "What does Rod Marinelli see in Harris and should Rod's nickname be 'Pollyanna'?"

  • What's the BFD?

    I don't understand all the sudden hatred of Tommie Harris just because of a surgery he had in March that fans didn't know about. Again, is this really THAT shocking and appalling that we need to spout out against our GUYS? As fans, we can only hope Tommie returns to the disruptive player we remember, although in limited action this season. I think the Chicago Bears have the luxury to take it easy on Tommie considering the depth they have at the position.

    There is no reason to grind on Tommie in training camp and in PRACTICE (practice?) when the games don't count for SHIT! How about we wait to blast our guys until maybe we actually see them play in a game that counts for something. Wow.

  • In reply to Shady:

    On that note:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUYjD7A75HQ&feature=related

  • In reply to Shady:

    As one who has been sitting on the "Tommie Harris, one of the best?!?!" bandwagon for about three years, I'm happy to see that others are finally calling out this fraud for what he is.

    Oh for the good old Steve McMichael days...

  • In reply to Shady:

    Shady, not hatred...sheer and utter frustration mixed with disbelief at his comments when called out regarding the money/injury issue.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    we talkin bout practice? unfortunately the games as well.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Wasn't it Tommie we paid when we franchise tagged Lance? Seems like we should have done it the other way around (maybe my timeframe is wrong, not sure), then we could have dropped this mother fu$#@r after his first less than productive year. Unbeleivable, why these guys even talk to the media, maybe they should go to a class to learn the right things to say. This sheds light on Lovie and organization too, they don't want to tell the truth about Tommie physical condition. "No everything is fine, everything is fine, nothing to see here, keep it moving, nothing to see here." Why the fuck cant a fother fucker say with honesty to a loyal fan base, hey Tommie is hurt, we are working slow with him because anything he has going into the season we want on game day and not in practice." Instead, no tommie has been running individual drills blah blah blah. Now Tommie's dumb ass has thrown them under the bus letting everybody know that they are full of shit and he is too hurt to really practice, and they make me wear pads and sit around here pretending for the fans and media(tear). He should be ashamed and embarassed that he can't be involved what is going on, his frustrion should be that the hardest part is not being able to sweat and toil with his team mates, making them better, showing them what it means to be as good as he supposedly is. The company line has been, oh it's ok, this provides an opportunity for the rest of our players to get an opportunty and run some reps. So sure let's go with the depth argument, do what you do. It will be the depth argument, but the depth behind Israel Idonije and not Tommie, Tommie want my mommy anymore. This is it for me on Tommie, I don't care if he has a stupid mouth and doesn't practice if he produces when it matters it's the only way he gets a pass. If not he needs to be dropped like a bad habit, if he isn't helping, he's hindering.

    Or maybe he's just stupid. Go figure.

    On the previous string, my thoughts are that the preseason will probably assist in the choices of 5/6 WR's because it's not likely that in four games where these guys get a lot of time on the field that there won't be an injury or two that will help in the picking process. Don't want it, but it happens. Just a thought or 10.

    Go Bears.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I think the most frustrating part is that Tommie can be one of the players in the sport. He simply doesn't play in the sport enough.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    lets face it people they lied to us, they should have just told us the same day they signed cutler. This way we would only be concerned and not pissed. My vote is to have Ron Rivera as the next head coach of da bears.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    That's why in these big dollar contracts should be bonus based on performance. Like the rest of us, get paid for what you do not for who you are. If your performance is poor, the pay suffers. Injuries happen, it's part of the risk you take because you want to be a sports star. On the other side of the coin is the fact that most def lineman only play for say what: 9 yrs tops. And by the time they retired if they make it that far, most of them will have physical problems from the abuse they put their bodies through. So the smart guy is gonna make as much money in that period of time as he can since most likely he be disabled by the time he's 45 or 50. So kudos to Tommie's agent for getting him what he did. The players are simply a commodity, and are worth whatever their agent can get them a contract for. Obviously, Mr. Angelo and Mr. Smith must have felt he was worth 40 mil when they signed his last contract. And I'm quite sure that there is a performance clause in there somewhere. And so he doesn't blow out his knee right away they are saving him for the regular season so if it happens there maybe they won't have to pay the bonus. Judging from I've read about Jerry Angelo on this wonderful, insightful, and informative blog, (only because of the contibutions made by Capt.Jeff and the rest of the motley crew) I somehow feel Jerry will do what is best finacially for the Bears. Just this old mans opinion.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I understand people being upset but it was to remove scar tissue. It wasn't a new procedure which he could have wait to until week 5 while underperforming. At this point we sound worst then him whining about something that has already happened 4 months ago. If he looks like crap after week 6 then trash him. But we are talking about preseason in a system that has not changed. We say we believe in Rod Marinelli but doubt what he sees. I

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    worm,

    for me my complaint isnt so much about tommie and his lame mouth. It's more about the crap coming out of the staffs mouths. I just wish they would stop watering things down. It is all a wash if this guy comes out and does his job on regular season gameday, then love and crew look like geniuses, they expertly took a look at what he was capable of and knew his limitations and made the most of his skills when it counts.

    It just doesnt seem like that to me because we have been watching this kind of stuff on a regular basis for the last couple years. I get tired of the arrogance, if there is arrogance with results, yea i'll deal with it, but don't candy coat it and then act like yea this was our plan the whole time and you guys don't know anything so stay in your lazyboys and sit back to watch us experts do what we do.

    i am just concerned, I am venting, but I am reserving full judgement until I see what happens in september.

    Good stuff about Manning in the ESPN NFC NORTH blog.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The Lovie Smith era has had more lies uncovered than the Bush Administration. At this point does anyone expect a straight answer from Lovie about anything? If Tommy's leg as detached from his body on a play we would hear:

    "its a football game. we feel good about our football team. Tommie got a little banged up. We have some players who can do some things. We feel good about Tommie and this football team."

    It is what it is. Harris is made of glass. He'll play hurt, but he's always going to be hurt. If he is not on IR by week 10, i will be surprised. I'm not gonna freak out about this, it's the same story every year. Just means other people on D need to step up. I think Harris gets a little too much credit. When he went down in 2006, our line was still way above average with the same staff (minus tank johnson). He's the key to having an incredible line, but his heath isn't the difference between 2006 and 2008. SO lets hope for the best.

    PS. How retarded is making an injured 300 pound dude sit on the bench in full pads?

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Why hasn't anyone given him roids yet? Hello?!

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    On a more POSITIVE note, Al Afalava looks to be making some progress in camp. He's worked his way into the 1st team nickle FS position and is giving Steltz a run for his money. Pretty impressive stuff for a rookie who missed the majority of OTAs because his college was on the silly quarter system. Good to hear he's put in the work not only in college classroom, but in the football classroom with some of the coaches as well. Can't wait to see this guy hit either.

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog?post=4389943&name=dickerson_chicago

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm taking a wait and see approach, like Shady. I personally like TH and hope he gets back to 2006 form. It'll be a win-win for him, the Bears, and us.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    You guys are a bunch of giant pussies.

    Don't root for Tommie? You have no idea what it takes to be on that field. What it takes from coming back from a grotesque hamstring injury. I understand that you folks want more production out of Harris, so I do, but not rooting for Tommie Harris isn't going to accomplish shit.

    Root for all or none.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    I'm not in the camp that you root for every guy because he's in the laundry. That's cheerleader shit and it don't water.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    You can call it cheerleader shit. I call it being a good fan.

    Did I think Rex Grossman was a dipshit? You better believe it. But I rooted for him.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    The whole Tommie Harris situation is frustrating. Frustrating for fans, frustrating for the media, frustrating for ownership, frustrating for coaches, and I'm sure it's frustrating for Tommie.

    I just don't see how you can justify why Tommie Harris is the target for all of this pent-up frustration. As I see it, the fans' frustration comes from having their He sacrificed his leg in 2006 to help carry this team (more than Rex did) to a Super Bowl and clearly hasn't been the same since. I think anyone who is hoping to see him return to 2006 form needs to re-evaluate their expectations. The fact is the injury left Tommie as a shell of his former self, the guy you see in the #91 jersey in 2009 is not the same player who wore the jersey in 2006. It's just a fact. I think the best we can hope for in 2009 is that Tommie can wreak the same havoc he did in 2006 in limited action this year. Like I said, the depth the Bears have at the position allows for a constant rotation of players who come off the sidelines fresh and ready to make a difference on the field. Let's hope when Tommie hits the field this year, he's as close to 100% as possible.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Well I hit the post comment button early, in case you couldn't tell.

    The point I was trying to make with the fragmented sentence was that the reason I think fans are so frustrated is that maybe they expected Tommie to be close to 100%, like the coaches were telling us, but those expectations were quickly erased when fans found out about his surgery last spring. True, it's never fun to be lied to or mis-led about a players health status - but this isn't the 1st time subterfuge (Thanks Phil)has been used about a guy's health status DURING THE OFFSEASON. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it wasn't until recently that fans and the media have expected to know every little detail about every one of their favorite players all of the time. I follow the Bears year round like a lot of you guys, but I understand a lot of what comes out of Halas Hall (especially during the off season) should be taken with a grain of salt. So while this 'shocking news' may upset some, to me it's really just old hat. If you want to get upset about it, blame Lovie Smith for non full disclosure during the off season. But blaming Tommie for a lingering injury he sustained while helping lead this club to the Super Bowl appearence in '06? That seems a bit silly to me.

  • In reply to hollywood1:

    Wow. Just ... wow. Not much love for Tommie on this board, is there ? Funny thing is, if he recovers sufficiently and becomes the driving defensive force behind us winning the Superbowl this year, all the Tommie T-shirts come out again and he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Fickle fans. The reason Tommie got paid $40 million is because he's one of the premier tackles in the NFL. Sadly, the macho mentality of male professional team sports require people to play through pain and injury, because of you, the fickle fans. He played on last year ... even though he was aggravating and doing God-knows what extra damage to that knee ... because that is what is required int he NFL. If he didn't - if he rested up and gave his injury the required rest and treatment - you, the fickle fans, would have been bitching on another thread called "Where the f**k is Tommie?" with comments like "Why did we we pay that fat f****er $40 M ? - to sit on the bench ?". Is it Tommie's fault he got injured ? Would he rather Chicago was bitching about him as he catches some Zs on the sideline, clocking in and picking up that cheque, than to be playing football ? Of course not. But in the NFL you're not allowed to get injured. When you are one of the main reasons for defenses success when healthy, when you lead your defense to the Superbowl, you're a hero .... but God forbid you get hurt playing this rough sport, God forbid Tommie, because the fans don't want to know about that. They're right behind their healthy, mediocre linesmen who couldn't sack a quarterback if they were in a phone booth together.

  • Get a load of this...when asked by Mike Silver of Yahoo sports if he regretted letting Ron Rivera go, Coach Smith responded:

    "That's not what this is about. We went in a different direction. It's been good for Ron and good for us."

    Oh it's been phenominal for us!

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