Game Post 9/10

Series preview can be found here.

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Tuesday: 9:10 PM CT on NBC Sports Chicago+/670AM

Lineups

Cubs

1. Ben Zobrist (S) 2B
2. Kyle Schwarber (L) LF
4. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
5. Kris Bryant (R) 3B
7. Jason Heyward (L) CF
8. Nico Hoerner (R) SS
9. Jose Quintana (R) P

Padres

1. Manuel Margot (R) CF
2. Nick Martini (L) LF
3. Manny Machado (R) 3B
4. Eric Hosmer (L) 1B
5. Wil Myers (R) CF
6. Ty France (L) 2B
7. Luis Urias (R) SS
8. Austin Hedges (R) C
9. Ronald Bolanos (R) P

Bullpen Usage

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Lineups and Bullpen Usage via Baseball Press.

Opposing pitchers

Scouting Reports from Brooks Baseball.

Ronald Bolanos: Bolanos did not even crack the top 15 prospects at the start of the season, and for some reason the pitcher has yet to get a Brooks Baseball page despite this being his second big league start.

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  • Welcome back, KB and Willson.

    I don't know what's going on, but Nicky 2bags is meeting with Boras and 4 of his staff members prior to tonight's game. I can't find out just yet if Theo or Jed are in town. Could just be that Boras and Co. are here, meeting with their client. I don't know.

    What a debut for Nico! We had fun last night, but I do see people with legitimate questions about how he fares when the pitchers get a game plan and adjust. I understand the narrative that he may be being rushed. I understand that he is green. But you know what? I think he is ready. Why isn't he? Please don't go to a site and regurgitate that he "only" has ____ minor-league AB',s. That don't fly with me. If a guy can play and has the mental fortitude to deal with failure, he's ready. Nico is ready.

    Nico again goes all Suave bringing the skills that this team is so sorely missing. 2-for-5, 2 RBI, 3 runs (1 BB), a stolen base, and solid defense, which is all I ask for on that end.

    Go Cubs!

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    These West Coast games are tough. I have to get up at 4:30. This morning was rough, but last night was worth it.

    I'm going to try, but I may fail. Today was a hard day.

    If I can't make the duration, I ask that someone pinch hit. You know the routine.

    Nico...

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Suave...
    Getting ready to say that many times tonight

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    I agree with you BP. How can the minor leagues help any more than playing in the Major Leagues? If someone is thinking about Major Leagues adjusting to the player eventually, that could happen even if he goes back to the Minors and comes back up later.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    I'm very much into a player's mental state to project how far he goes. Nothing trumps talent, mind you, but we've all seen unrealized talent due to a full skull. I won't list examples.

    Nico seems to get it, and all I hear is that he is unique in that sense. He will not be broken by a stretch of failure. I haven't seen as much video as I would like to make a full projection, but I have seen enough. He passes my baserunning test, which is my simple way of evaluating a player's baseball IQ. He understands the game. I've seen so many prospects with loud tools that don't know how to play baseball.

    Nico Suave does.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    The mental fortitude of a young baseball player is definitely important. We know Epstein puts a lot of weight into this in scouting; Almora, KB, and Schwarber all had/have it. I think it's why Theo wanted Rizzo so badly as soon as he got to Chicago. Happ, I've read, is a perfectionist that just wants to win at all costs. In his case I don't see the fluid athleticism as even Schwarber. Nico definitely has it. It's going to be fun to watch.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    I mean you’re not wrong about Hoerner possibly being ready but I tend look at averages and college players who come up earlier than the average tend to struggle. Is that a fait accompli? Of course not, guys beat the odds all the time but if I’m evaluating a player I’m doing based on the most likely outcome. I hope he beats those odds but they’re all I can rely on if I’m making a judgement

  • In reply to TC154:

    With all due respect, many people have gone broke by betting with the odds. Anyway, I disagree with your statement on the averages. I would like to see the data in the past 5 years on young players coming up "early" and BTW what is the definition of early? Right off the top of my head, I think about KB, Tatis, Correa, Springer, Torres, Acuna, Albies, Seager, and so on.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    Out of that group only Bryant and Singer were college players if we’re comparing apples to apples. Bryant had about 800 minor league PA and Singer over 1,000. All I’m saying is that the best of the best usually get more time in the minors.

  • In reply to TC154:

    I named young players coming up from minors "early" not just college players. Please name some of the best of the best that you are talking about and then we can compare.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    As a general rule college players need lest time in the minors. Both Bryant were higher ranked prospects than a Hoerner. That’s why I used those examples. I’m not going to go looking up a bunch of players and looking up their PA. If you read articles on development the general rule is that guys should have 700-1500 minor league PA before coming up. That includes IFA, high school and college although the first two categories generally need more than a college player. It’s not like anything I’m saying is contentious. Can individuals exceed those norms? Of course they can but I’m certainly not going to predict that.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    Neither Springer nor Bryant were brought up early." Bryant played a full year split evenly between AA-AAA, 600 PA, 43 HR, 1.100 OPS. He wasn't rushed up. Surely you remember the contention around keeping Bryant in AAA for the start of the 2015 season.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    I also remember the only reason he was kept down longer was so the Cubs could get one more year from him.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    Right. And I'm sure Boras will never forgive Theo for that. Two injury ridden seasons or not, and even though KB is an upstanding young man, Cubs ain't getting any discounts.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    Springer was not the best example for you to make your point. He was drafted out of college in 2011. Played in the minors in 2011-2012-2013 and enough service time in 2014 to delay his clock. He had about 1300 PA's before reaching the bigs. He is only a month or 2 younger than Heyward who is on year 4 of his free agent contract. Springer hasn't finish arbitration yet.

  • In reply to clarkAddson:

    Ok, so my mistake but my point still stands and besides, I also named 7 others so what's your point?

  • In reply to TC154:

    I think Kyle Schwarber and Ian Happ are examples of what "could" go wrong. Both have college-level experience, both were promoted fairly quickly and both were impressive in their first weeks of MLB. Both suffered setbacks and both were eventually returned to AAA to work out some issues. Does that mean it'll happen to Hoerner? Of course not. I just want the Cubs to be diligent in their evaluation and make sure he gets the help he needs - if he needs any at all. If he does well the rest of this year, it's easy to announce that he has "arrived" and then make no moves to acquire an infielder. If they decide to start 2020 with Nico at 2B, they need a better backup plan than Descalso, just in case.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Remember he's 23 already, and a Stanford grad. And a contact hitter.
    I think all those things will work in his favor and he will be fine. I could be wrong. I was once, I think, I could b e wrong about that too. In any case, he's making me look forward to the game a lot.

  • In reply to Oneear:

    I think I was wrong once myself, but I could be mistaken.

    I'm not saying Nico is fully developed. I actually brought up the idea of bringing him up earlier this season, before all these injuries. Let's not forget why he is here now, because of a series of unfortunate injuries.

    He knows how to play ball. I know people point to the X number of minor league AB's other prospects have had, but honestly, why? When a kid can hold his own against the best, and not be beat down if he fails, why not get to the upper level and familiarize yourself with the coaching, scouting, and brotherhood of a team?

    Many prospects can be broken by failure. That is very true. But some cannot be. We famously set up Javy for a monumental failure in 2014, and he did not disappoint. But he also did not break. It's what he needed at the time.

    Every player is different. I don't like the "he needs X number of AB's at every level" argument.

    To be perfectly honest, Nico is only here because of Javy's thumb and Javy's replacement's face. I would like Nico to be more seasoned, maybe even a few months at Iowa to begin 2020. But he will not be overwhelmed or set back because of the early call-up.

    Nico is tough. Nico is smooth. Nico is...

    Suave.

  • In reply to Oneear:

    I think you are wrong about Hoerner being a Stanford grad. He was signed after his junior year. Not sure he graduated yet. Then again I could be wrong again. ;)

  • 25 years ago, I player in KB's situation would have been pulled aside - by a teammate, maybe an agent, even a coach - and offered a little something that wasn't cortisone.

    "Take this injection, rub a little of this on it for a couple of days then see how you feel...you'll be amazed."

    And by god not only do the nagging pains go away faster it seems like he sees the ball a lot better, too. Maybe it was the rest. The his bat speed ticks up and he feels like he can't miss, totally "locked in." Rub a little more on that sore shoulder, another injection in the leg, just to be sure...

    The rest is history.

    Now guys are back to playing through pain, performing at 60% because it's August and September and their teams are in the race. And we the fans dog them for weak, over rated, over the hill.

    Fickle game.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    Fickle game, or fickle fans?

    I love the point you bring up, and the fact that KB doesn't succumb to the pressure.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    I honestly had ended that with "fickle fans" but thought that the word game includes all of us. Anyway, you get my point.

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    Juan Soto is 20, Rafael Devers is 22 and been up for almost 3 years, etc. Nico played several years of college and I don't know how to equate 3 years of college with pro ball--is it A or high A? Idk. I do know that not only did he hit very well--but that will be adjusting to what the pitchers learn about him--but he ran the bases very well--look at the triple e.g., but his defense was very good. That should be there regardless of the other aspects of the game and we need to be better defensively to win these last 19 games.
    Right now, Milwaukee is tied in the 8th, Arizona is losing in the 8th, StL is losing 2-1 in the 4th at Col.

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    There was replay angle of his triple from behind home plate that was very to watch. Impressive speed and no hesitation, smooth.

    Acuna 21, Albies, 22, Guerrero Jr. 20....

  • Should Hoerner maybe be 7th, and Heyward 8th?

  • In reply to Treebeard:

    Guess not!!

  • In reply to stix:

    I'm glad he's batting 7th.......

  • J-Hey. What else can I say?

    Brewers just beat the Marlins.

    Yelich left the game after fouling a ball off his leg. I know nothing else.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Broken kneecap

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    In reply to stix:

    That’s a blow to Milwaukee. I’m sorry for the injury but if we don’t win tonight we’ll be only 1 game up in the WC.
    Cards still losing 2-1.

  • Ben needs better aim or better shortstop on his DP ground balls.

  • In reply to stix:

    It was a terrible throw.

    What an awful inning of seeing eye and bloop singles.

  • Can the Cubs ask for a redo of the second inning? That was brutal.

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    Nicky “Legs” Castellanos runs it down!

  • Glad they challenged that. As it went to the commercial and showed the replay, I was pretty sure Heyward's left hand was beyond home plate when they showed his body make contact with the glove.

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    KB Kaboomed it! Back in the game.

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    And again for KB... and now Heyward again! Tie game... Nico base hit. Let's take this one!!!

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    Nicky, relax. You can do it.
    JD said that when the Cubs hit 2 HR they win most of the time. Ok, that works for me.
    Yates is really good. This inning he’s painting each side.

  • Big game. Hopefully the Cubs can come all the way back. Let’s get a couple runs here and win this

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    That would have added to the growing legend of Nico Suave—if it had been fair.

  • Need to throw some strikes here... Make them win!

  • In reply to Cubber Lang:

    Don't just hand it to them.

  • I've enough of Maddon.

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    In reply to Cubmitted:

    That’s entirely on Cishek. He nibbled with 3 batters. Just throw strikes. If he hits it, he hits it.
    That sucks big time!!

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    It was pretty obvious Cishek didn't have anything after 2 batters. 7 other arms in the pen and he leaves a guy out there that clearly find the plate?

    It's not April. Saving the pen for tomorrow shouldn't be in the equation.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    Cishek is a lot like Edwards Jr. You know after a batter or 2 if he has it or not. That is time to make a decision wether to leave him in or not. He should of been pulled. Maddon again blows another game.

    Maddon count down: 18 more regular season games.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    I can't wait for Joe's comments when he is let go.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    He got the 1st batter out and then gave up a weak infield single. You already knew then that Cishek didn't have it?? Wow. You're amazing. Can you let me know before it happens when the stock market will crash? I would appreciate it

  • In reply to Cubpack:

    I could let you know when the stock market will crash, but I won't because I would rather watch you lose what little money you have go away. Any other questions?

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Anybody that watched the game and thinks Joe was the problem is solely focused on bashing Joe. Our second baseman threw a ball into the corner for the second game in a row costing us 5 runs. And a pitcher can't throw strikes. Both professional athletes. As a manager, you put professional athletes out let them do their job. Sometimes they do, and sometimes they don't. Joe ran 5 relief pitchers out there before Ceshek which tells you something. He probably had a few relievers that were not available. Make the routine plays and we win easily.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Nice.
    No other questions. But maybe you could let us all know how you do in your interview for the Cubs managerial job next year. Your obviously way too qualified to just be a blog manager

  • Had enough. What was that?

  • Might as well have put all 7 fielders in the infield, but still can't defend the walk-off bases loaded walk... Wasted another day.

  • You know as much as I really want Maddon retained and Theo to stay because I still think they give the Cubs the best chance to win in the future, I almost hope their gone at season’s end. Then when the Cubs are perennial door mats again maybe some of the naysayers will truly understand how important they were to the teams success. But I’m too old to wait through multiple attempts before we find half the success current management has brought to the Cubs. Be careful what you wish for.

  • In reply to PhillyCubFan:

    I agree. But like you, I don't want to wait for years or decades waiting for them to find anyone else as good as the current regime, manager included.
    Maybe they can find a manager that connects better or is able to get more out of his players than Maddon. Who knows. But that is what the guys that get paid to make those decisions are there for.

    For those fans that rip Maddon because they say they knew Cishek was going to walk guys after 1 or 2 batters or because he started Kemp a game in August or he played Caratini rather than Contreras for a few games after his hammy injury....they're just proving the point that most fans are clueless

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