Daily Cubs Minors Recap: Hoerner gets first start in CF; Uelmen settling in with Myrtle Beach; Herron extends hot streak

Nico Hoerner (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

Nico Hoerner (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

AA

Montgomery 4, Tennessee 3

Game Recap

Some inconsistent control led to a pair of two-run innings off Cory Abbott, who otherwise looked good in his other 3+ innings of work. The Smokies were only able to get on the board in a single inning. Christian Donahue ignited a three-run 3rd with a leadoff double. He came into score on a Nico Hoerner single to right field. Singles by Vimael Machin and P.J. Higgins kept the line moving. They would get at least one runner on base in five of the six final innings, but were never able to get the big hit to tie the game.

Top Performers

  • Vimael Machin: 2-2, RBI 2 BB (.301)
  • P.J. Higgins: 3-4, RBI (.276)
  • Connor Myers: 2-4, R (.276)
  • Gioskar Amaya: 1-3, BB (.266)
  • Nico Hoerner: 1-5-, R, RBI, SB (2) (.282)

Injuries, Updates, and Trends

Cory Abbott (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

Cory Abbott (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

The Tennessee Smokies (40-49) are above .500 against the rest of the Southern League but have now dropped 8 of 12 against Montgomery.

Through the first six weeks of the season we saw nice improvement from Cory Abbott (5-6, 4.06) in terms of his command and control. He walked just 7 batters (3.8 BB%) in his first 8 starts (45.2 IP, 2.96 ERA, 3.28 FIP), but over his last 9 starts he has now walked 26 batters (12.0 BB%) in 47.1 innings (5.13 ERA, FIP). He's remained difficult to hit and his K rate has actually ticked up a bit. Abbott leads the system in strikeouts (98) and K% (24.4) among qualified starters in full season ball.

Nico Hoerner (.282/.358/.494) started in CF, made all the routine plays, and even came up with a smart play on his first chance in the 2nd to end a threat:

Advanced A

Myrtle Beach 5, Down East 3

Game Recap

Jimmy Herron (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

Jimmy Herron (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

Erich Uelmen held the Wood Ducks in check over the first six innings. The offense woke up in the bottom of the 6th, with Delvin Zinn doubling home Zach Davis, then scoring on a throwing error when Jimmy Herron stole second later in the inning. Miguel Amaya capped off the three-run inning with a bloop double to drive home Herron. Herron would drive home an insurance run the following inning. Garrett Kelly kept things interesting with a few walks after he replaced Uelmen, but ended up tossing two scoreless in relief.

Top Performers

  • Erich Uelmen: 6 IP, 4 H, 2 R, ER, BB, 7 K (W, 3-2, 3.20)
  • Garrett Kelly: 2 IP, H, 0 R, 3 BB, 2 K (2.14)
  • Cam Balego: 1-3, HR (9), R, RBI (.252)
  • Jimmy Herron: 2-3, R, RBI, BB, SB (19), CS (7) (.237)
  • Zach Davis: 2-4, R, SB (29), CS (10)

Injuries, Updates, and Trends

The hot streak for Jimmy Herron (.237/.335/.356) has now reached 20 games. He's hitting .351/.424/.432 (149 wRC+) to raise his batting average over40 points.

Erich Uelmen (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

Erich Uelmen (Photo by Stephanie Lynn)

The Pelicans have been getting some great work by Erich Uelmen of late as well. He started the year on the IL, and was a bit up-and-down over his first 8 starts, but appears to have settled in over his last 3 starts (17.2 IP, 13 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 4 BB, 18 K).

The right-hander has a diving sinker with arm side run which he compliments with a solid slider and changeup as well. His size and pitch mix indicate he has a future as a back-of-the-rotation starter, but I still have some questions regarding his ability to control lefties at the upper levels as his delivery creates deception against right-handed batters, but I think lefties get a much better look. He's used his secondaries more effectively against lefties this year, which has helped him hold them to a lower average than righties, but he has walked lefties at a significantly higher rate, which reinforces my belief they see the ball pretty well against him. Regardless of whether Uelmen ends up being capable of holding up multiple times through an order against advanced hitters, he does have an MLB caliber arm, and his stuff should play out of the pen if necessary.

DSL

Cubs1 4, Rangers1 3

Rangers2, Cubs2 0

19-year old RHP Luis Devers has been dominant over his last 3 starts (17 IP, 9 H, 1 R, 3 BB, 20 K)

Remember these guys? Rafael Morel (.305/.367/.524) hit his 3rd homer, and Yohendrick Pinango (.362/.449/.491) doubled, drove in 3 and swiped his 13th bag in 16 tries. They haven't been among the upper echelon of 17-year olds producing in the DSL so far, but they've consistently been right below that. Morel has been among the Top 10 power producers all season, and Pinango among the top ten in patience, contact ability, and stolen bases.

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  • Tennessee will be coming to Birmingham next week. I gotta catch Nico on this visit - I don't think there will be another one!

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    Cory Abbott's season shows us why promotion decisions don't always hinge on stats. Through the first few starts Abbott looked like, on paper, like someone who should immediately be sent to AAA. But maybe more time in AA to gain consistency and work through a slump that all pitchers go through will help him in long run. Better here than in AAA, where he might be getting blown up.

    Also, going to be in South Bend tonight, who should I look for? Morel, Brennen Davis, who else?

  • In reply to Zonk:

    Roederer, if he is playing (he came out for an injury yesterday).

    Jonathan Sierra was our highest price intl signing a few years back (and that class, which also had Amaya, went over the cap despite having no top signings, which cost us a shot at getting Moncada).

    Fidel Mejia was a surprise to make this team out of spring training, starting super hot and then got hurt. He just returned and hasn't put up big numbers, but will be interesting to see if he is good.

  • “Tennessee Smokies (40-49) are above .500 against the rest of the Southern League but have now dropped 8 of 12 against Montgomery.”

    Having trouble wrapping my head around this statement, and thinking maybe there’s a typo. If they are 4-8 against Montgomery, doesn’t that leave them as 36-41 against the rest of the league?

  • In reply to Cubber Lang:

    I'm old and your math checks. But, with the math they teach today you might be wrong. So I respectively will not pat you on the back. Good Day.

  • In reply to KJRyno:

    Yeah, I screwed that up.
    I may or may not have a computer science degree that required me to take a high number of math classes.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    It just feels like Montgomery has been whipping them all year while the Smokies have played pretty well against everyone else.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    It just speaks to the knowledge of your followers here at Cubs Den that Clubber saw it so fast. You lead a knowledgeable, albeit extremely dumb on occasion group of fanatics. .

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Yeah no worries. And we all know you don't just have all day to whip these reports up and get every detail perfect all the time. And yeah, they are much closer to .500 without playing Montgomery, so if you're watching the games, I can see how you'd get that feeling when they keep dropping games to the same team.

  • In reply to Cubber Lang:

    They also play some 5 game series in SL, and it seems like Tennessee has gone 1-4 against Montgomery twice.

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    In reply to Cubber Lang:

    Just caught this exchange between you guys; Good catch Cubber and a real funny chuckle between you and Ernst.. Thanks

  • Bryant for Syndergaard as the 2 main players. Their arb years match up. I think there's the start of a conversation there.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    Why would you do that?

    You trade for a guy likely to walk for a big contract. Makes no sense. If KB were dealt it will be for a lot more than equal control years.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    Starting point. The two key players. Cubs rotation as it stands today isn't getting past Atlanta or LA. How anyone can argue with that escapes me. Not to mention they're going to need pitching in '22. As it stands today Hendricks and Darvish are your 1-2. Someone is getting paid.

    This team needs more than a tweak to seriously contend through the rest of their window. Their inability to draft and develop at least one TOR starter over 6-7 years is going to come at a cost. Bryant is walking after the Cubs don't give him $30 mil for 8 to 10 years. I would guess the Mets would pay Bryant .

    There's a trade to be made that would help both teams now and into the future.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    To actually have a chance against the best teams in the NL much less the AL over the next few years some substantial changes will have to happen. Rotation, OF and INF.

    David Peralta or similar with an upgraded LHRP isn't close. The trend is there to see since '17.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    I understand your points, but I am not buying it.

    I absolutely believe the Cubs can beat ATL or LA in a series. Lester, Hendricks, and Hamels/Darvish/Q are more than capable starters. All 3 of those teams need bullpen help so there is nothing to be afraid of. It comes down to our lineup and our guys have gone on 2-3 week runs where we have been unbeatable. So, IMO, the Cubs can certainly compete with these teams in a short series. Now over 162, it may be a bit of a stretch.

    I am not worried about 2022. And your comment about not developing a TOR arm is short-sighted because of the plan. If you recall, the plan was to draft hitters and use FA/Trades to secure pitching. The Cubs wouldn’t be in this window if not for following the plan. The cost controlled years of hitters allowed them to spend on already MLB proven starters. It was a GREAT plan and has proven wildly successful.

    KB may indeed be traded over the next 2 years as you wrote, but that is a tough pill to swallow given he is a home grown MVP and, IMO, has a heckuva chance to be a HOF player. I would be surprised though if we traded KB and the headliner back was a pitcher.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    If you are going to trade Bryant and/or Rizzo. Why wouldn't you trade them for a package of mostly cheap controllable hitters? That is a big part of the Cubs success. I don't see any advantage to trading your best still controllable players mid-season, unless you are overwhelmed with the package offered.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    I also believe the Cubs could/would beat ATL and LA this year.
    Somebody has to tell me when a team in the past trades their best player while in first place in July?
    Just a few weeks ago the only talk in here was strengthening the 25th spot on the roster......now it’s Hot Stove......in July.....
    There has only been one game when the bullpen plan to get to Kimbrel at the end has happened.....
    I would dump Happ and Russell in a package to pickup an established bat but, that is about it.

  • In reply to Wickdipper:

    Kimbrel has two saves and one blown save , which was due to defensive ineptitude. Where did you get the one game for Kimbrel?

  • In reply to stix:

    His first save......when Maddon set it up with the stair step approach to get to him......is what I mean.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    I would not trade Bryant for Thor. We have more than enough starting pitching for this year. I don't think the team is scoring enough runs period. Your plan is to trade away one of the teams best hitters??

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    Kris Bryant is the 7th best offensive player in the NL by wRC+. Noah Syndergaard has a 4.68 ERA, 3.98 FIP and 1.28 WHIP slightly worse numbers than Jose Quintana who people want to ride out of town on rail. Syndergaard is also the poster child for inconsistency where Bryant is one of the most statistically predictable players in the game. All that said, I don't think Syndergaard is completely without value but that value is in minor league talent. A deal with Houston for Kyle Tucker and another top 10 prospect would be a phenomenal return for the Mets, but one of the 15 best offensive players in the game year in and year out? C'mon now.

  • Not to mention they're looking at critical weeks (4) without Hamels. Arguably their best starter.

    It's worth serious consideration. As constituted this team isn't contending for championships. The rebuilding teams in the NL will be passing them one by one. From what I've seen Atlanta already has. LA's record speaks for itself. And it's a pipe dream they can beat any of the top AL teams in a series.

    That's where I'm coming from. I only hope the FO isn't drinking their own kool-aid.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    Thor is not the Thor of 2 years ago. He is following a similar fall like Zambrano of 8-9 years ago. Thor just isn’t as unique as Carlos, but not by much. He hasn’t pitched a full season in 2 full years.

    Now, if that’s the starting point and McNeil and possibly others are coming back, I might be inclined to listen but not 1 for 1.

  • In reply to TexasCubsFan:

    I don’t think it’s time to blow the team up. Depth is the biggest problem. A trade for Castellanos puts Schwarber in a nice platoon.
    Bote/Bryant platoon with Heyward. See what Garcia can do until the deadline. Villar would be a nice add and should be cheap.
    What Houston and LA have over the Cubs, besides elite SP, is the ability to match up with platoon guys.
    Also a LOOGY would be nice.

  • In reply to d0a0v0e:

    Trading Bryant isn't blowing up the team. He's their number one asset as far as return in concerned.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    He's only a #1 asset if they blow up the team.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    Certainly in an in season trade. This winter could be a different story. My idea situation is to see KB stay here his entire career so this winter I sit down and see if something can be worked out in the $225-$250 mil range, $275 tops. If that's not possible he'll have two years of control left and will be extremely valuable. What if, and this is just a type of deal question, you could trade him to Houston for Forest Whitley and Yordan Alvarez or Kyle Tucker plus another prospect? That doesn't even necessarily take you out of contention in 2020 if you could pencil Whitley in at the back of your rotation to get his feet wet and Alvarez puts up anything close to the kind of numbers he's been doing since coming up. That said it would have to be that kind of deal for two top 5 prospects from a good system plus more and you don't do that kind of thing at the deadline. After all St. Louis got Paul Goldschmidt, who has nearly identical offensive numbers to Bryant, for an already in the show, solid MOR pitching prospect and a starting catcher they didn't have a place for. For two years of an offensive player of that caliber you get a better pitcher and a better position player plus. Period. That is the one and only way you ever think about trading a top 15 player in the league and even then only after you've exhausted all extension talks. The way Cubs fans undervalue KB's value is astonishing.

  • In reply to TexasCubsFan:

    Not one for one. A package. Create your own for grins. Starting point for conversation. The Mets need help and so do the Cubs. The rest of the central is continuing to improve. They're coming and coming fast. Cubs are currently sub .500 against division foes. And they're not exactly world beaters in the present. That's a wake up call.

    They had a decent May (by far their best baseball of year) then started June well before fading. And that fade continued into an ugly start of July.

    The '15-'16 editions of this team are over. It's a trend going on 3 years. Next years rotation currently features a declining Lester (the '16 version isn't coming back), Hendricks, Darvish and a final year of Quintana. Azolay isn't proven yet.

    Sans gutting the farm a bold move or two has to be on the table. Few believe Bryant is going to be re-signed. What waiting for the off season accomplishes alludes me. Other than another early exit.

    Had the Chatwood-Darvish signings panned out with Almora, Russell and Schwarber continuing to improve it's a completely different situation.

    The OF is second division at best. A need at 2B. Maybe Garcia surprises? Anything can happen. Then there's no genuine stopper ace at the top of the rotation. Hamels has been their ace since last year. He's been great. But. And it's a big one besides the fact he's on the shelf he's also a FA at years end.

    I'm obviously of the opinion a couple of band aids has no chance of getting them deep into October. I'd be interested to hear others ideas that don't center around a couple of tweaks and a 38 year old returning who's in the last year of a contract and in the midst of a real life family crises.

    I don't mean any of it in a flippant way. Just looking for other bold ideas.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    Trading Bryant virtually guarantees no postseason for the Cubs this year and probably next, unless someone gives back players that produce more and are MLB ready, NOW. In the meantime, pitchers like Hamels and Lester get older. I have to disagree - Theo needs to strengthen this team for this year, without weakening it for next. Hamels is a FA at the end of the year, and that gives the Cubs $20 mil to spend on somebody else.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    I think his .236 RISP can be replaced.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    I spelled out the kind of package you would need to trade Bryant above. Not a package headed up by 2 years of a mercurial starting pitcher that appears to be declining but ready for MLB prospects and darned good ones at that. How could you look at what St. Louis got for 1 year of Goldschmidt and think that 2 years (much less 2 1/2) of Bryant would be worth less?

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    This season the Cubs lack trade assets, and payroll flexibility. Last offseason the Cubs said internal improvement. We assume and some midseason rentals. Has enough internal improvement happen? I would like to see the Cubs clean up the roster by being both sellers, and buyers this month. Go crazy like Seattle has done with trades in the past. Cubs could hope to get some rentals that perform well. Maybe trade some future payroll obligation, see if some pitching depth is ready to help, and build a little more minor league depth. Maybe trade for a bad contract in a payroll exchange for Chatwood. Take some chances.

    If they make the playoffs hope they get lucky and win it all.

    I would not look to trade any of the top controllable core players mid-season unless you are overwhelmed.

  • In reply to Cubmitted:

    There is no chance you trade one of the best hitters in the game from a contending team to acquire anyone else if your goal is to continue to contend.

    Question for you is...if last winter, the Mets offered Thor for KB, would you have done it? If not then, why now when KB's value has gone up and Thor's has gone down? If so, what is your calculation that determined that Thor had greater value?

  • In reply to springs:

    It was never a straight up one for one proposition. Just two key pieces of making a deal work. With some creativity you could easily have 8 to 9 guys moving. Including some Cubs prospects. Just not top shelf. Bryant is leaving by '21 sans the Cubs backing up an armored car at his house. He's a Boras client. There will not be a discount to keep the band together.

    This team is not going deep into October with a David Peralta and an upgraded LHRP. Some believe that's possible. I don't.

    Whether it's with the Mets or other teams a TOR power arm has to on the list. Lester is a gamer. And a good signing. But he should be their #3 by now. If that was the case you're looking at a different picture.

    They also need to figure out 2 OF positions, find a LHRP and solve 2B while they're at it. Then there's another bench guy to replace Descalso. Moving on from Addy might not be bad idea either.

    This is not a playoff team going deep with Kyle in LF leading off. While holding your breath he doesn't make a critical error before being replaced late. Albert hasn't taken the steps to prove he's an everyday guy. Might he? Maybe. But it's clearly not happening in the '19 season.

    All of that is not getting done by shipping out some BP balls and a few Olive Garden gift certificates to sweeten the pot.

  • The Cubs are a very good team, just not a top MLB club. If you make the playoffs, anything could happen. The Cubs are due playoff luck for the 108 years.

    It is almost impossible to develop aces. The Cubs have spent a lot of draft capital on pitching, and so far have very little to show for it. A big part of Cubs problems, very few players after the 1st round have developed. That needs to change, and it looks like it that is happening from Michael's great articles.

    Draft capital spent on pitching
    2012--43rd,56th, 67th picks, plus 3rd to 6th round pick.
    2013 41st pick plus 4th through 8th round
    2014- 45th pick plus 4th through 12 round -this was the year they took 3 high school pitchers in the mid-rounds
    2015 3rd rounds plus 5th through 9th round.
    2016 3rd round to 20th round all pitchers except 7th round. No 1st or 2nd round pick that year.
    2017 picks 27th, 30th, 67th picks plus rounds 3,4,6,7
    2018 78th pick
    2019 27th pick plus rounds 3 to 5 and 7 to 9.

    The Cubs have the ability to pay a few starters big bucks. That is a huge advantage. Right now with their budget stretched, I would like for them to trade Quintana, and get something for him, and cut the payroll of his $10.5 million salary, and give the platoon of potential replacements a chance.

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    In reply to Naujack:

    It is not a matter of picks the cubs used, it's a matter of the type of pitchers they drafted. Theo was focusing on college pitchers who he could get to the majors as quickly as possible, he didn't focus on power pitchers and most of the time totally ignored high school pitchers in the first two rounds. Now if you think you can build a pitching corp of that type of pitchers, I guess you might think he erred in judgement, this year they seemed to make an adjustment and did select some power arms and I believe in coming years you will see some high school pitchers taken in the first couple rounds.

  • In reply to tater:

    I think with free agents getting less money, and shorter deals, absolutely plays into the Cubs #1 advantage in the central division, largest payroll.

    They have taken a few high school pitchers in the second round in the early years. I wish they took a few more high school players from rounds 4 to 15 athletic hitters, or pitchers.

    I absolutely agree with, and think the Cubs fell in love with a certain type of pitchability pitchers. It looks like to me for many of these drafts the Cubs then reached/overdrafted for guys they liked, and paid the safe choice too much of the slot value.

    Just this year in the 7th round the Cubs took a senior in the 7th round and paid him $50K. Most other teams with much larger draft pools pay those type of guys $10k.

    The Cubs need to get tougher, and pay almost all college juniors drafted to under-slot deals. Then you might have a few more bucks to pay at least one or more high school player later in the draft.

    For this season I would like the Cubs to build a trade around Quintana- get something for him. Do a few other minor rental deals. See if some of the pitching depth can earn the #5 spot in the rotation.

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    Another thing on types of pitchers chosen by cubs after the first ten rounds, we seem to go after guys with big bodies, especially left handers, who don't seem to throw very hard, hoping they will be able to later. I am of the belief you draft power arms as many as possible and hope you hit on 1 or 2 once in awhile. If you notice we have hardly any in our system except for a few IFA signees, and they are few also, but getting better.

  • In reply to tater:

    I agree Tater. I am still bothered by the draft of Little over Nate Pearson. It was in excusable to me on draft day and ticks me off a couple years later.

    I believe this recent draft shows we are going for more high octane arms.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    Pearson may have a better major league career than Little. But neither has made it to the majors yet so we don't know for sure.

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    In reply to John57:

    We do know who has the better upside and that is mainly what we're talking about here. Same thing goes in our last draft we had opportunity to take high school pitchers, we went for Jensen,instead. Allen was sitting there and we didn't pull the trigger because of his demands, well he signed for our top spot of 2.5M in the 1st round, and don't tell me we couldn't sign Hearn then, the draft would have played out different from 1st round on, heck who knows we may have gotten Jensen in the second....

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    I agree fully on the Little over Pearson analysis. Absolutely crazy. Of course, I was screaming at the computer to draft Giolito (or perhaps Fried, but especially Giolito, who was mentioned as best RHP HS ever and could've gone #1 if not for surgery) over Almora. Until this year, I thought I had been proven wrong, but now...

    Imagine if we had Giolito in the rotation now and Dylan Cease ready to come up (with Adzolay and others). Then something considered a weakness now would be a strength.

  • The problem with trading KB is that his best years are ahead of him. I would rather pick up Wacha, Wheeler, MadBum or Roark as a FA after the season than trade for Thor and lose KB.
    If the Cubs were a better match for Oakland or Atlanta, that’s were the young controllable pitching could come from in a trade. Don’t see those teams not asking for Contreras.

  • In reply to d0a0v0e:

    I empty the vault for Gerritt Cole. I give him a Greinke-type or better deal.

  • An interesting tidbit from another sport, tennis.
    This year’s Men’s Semifinals comprised of Federer, 37, Nadal, 35, Djokovich, 32, Bautista-Agat 31. Four guys playing 5 set matches with an average age of 33.5 years old.
    We hear from the supposed mavens, that baseball is “going young, and there are a lot of great young position players coming in, but not that many great young pitchers that I see. Lucas Giolito appears to be one of the few.
    The idea of drafting and developing more predictable position players makes sense, and then trading for or buying pitching as the Cubs have done. Hard throwing kids almost always are casualties of baseball wars and many never come back well from damage.
    My feeling is that the game may be teetering between the homer or nothing school which the Cubs seem to have bought into and the line drive camp which Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are trying now. I like the Pittsburgh approach with one big homer guy, Josh Bell, and an army of Cory Dickersons and Adam Fraziers. Age is not the crucial factor here.
    The Cubs could afford to trade Kris Bryant to get two Dickersons. Their lack of hitting to drive in runs is their biggest deficiency in my mind. Maybe Garcia helps now, but they still need two.400 On base guys in the lineup as additions. This is why they desperately want Ben Zobrist back at 38.

  • In reply to Swarf:

    Just a few observations. You want to add at least two.400 OBP hitters. Cubs have Bryant as the only one over .400. Rizzo and Contreras are in the .380 level. After that the OBP totals reduce. Quickly.

    I think TC said Bryant was the seventh best in the NL by OPS+ that probably means there aren’t very many players available with a +.400 OBP and probably aren’t available for what the cubs have to offer in trade deals.

    By the way Nadal is only 33 for whatever that’s worth.

  • I think Cole is going to the Yankees.

  • In reply to d0a0v0e:

    I don't think so, although they may try. He's made it pretty clear he wants to play in California and the Angels, Padres and maybe the Dodgers will all be in on him. The White Sox are said to be making him their main target as well but that's not happening. If I had to put my money on it I'd say Padres. He's really a perfect fit for them, and will anchor a young, talented staff. I think they'll keep trying to acquire Syndergaard too.

  • In reply to TC154:

    He’s an Orange County kid. I would say Angels first of all the CA teams. He played high school ball 10 mins from Angels Stadium.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    All things equal I would agree but will the Angels be willing to be high bidder on the only ace level pitcher on the market? You’re talking somewhere in the $150 mil area. San Diego has been much more willing to spend money than Anaheim (Trout was his own thing) and are certainly closer to a championship. Still, the only thing I’m sure of is that he won’t be pitching in Chicago for either team.

  • In reply to TC154:

    Padres do seem to willing to spend. I agree with you there. I think the Angels May be wiling to open the bank when you could pair Cole with Ohtani—all of a sudden you could make a serious run at the Astros.

    It’s very likely he is CA bound one way or another.

  • In reply to TC154:

    I’d also add TC that Cole hasn’t expressed much love towards this cubs group. He had some tough words for them back in Pitt. The guy doesn’t like the cubs IMO and only comes here if the cubs offer absurd money. I’ve also heard he prefers to play in the west coast. I love the stuff but I’d be shocked if the cubs signed him

  • In reply to TC154:

    I can’t see Hamels, who is 38, getting a $150m contract. I would expect a two-year deal at less than the $66 Verlander got.

  • Maybe Senga will post next year. The Hawks owner doesn’t want to post anyone. If Senga does post, it will make the starting pitching market more competitive.

  • Ken Rosenthal reported last month that the Pirates’ Corey Dickerson is on the trade market. He is just signed through 2019 for $8.5 million. With him and Zobrist for the rest of the year, the Cubs might be a different team.
    Is it worth a prospect like Maples or Garcia to obtain him? Would the Cubs trade Schwarber for him? They have home runs now,does he provide something they lack?

    Obviously, Dickerson is not the only clutch, on base guy potentially available. Other suggestions?

  • FWIW the cubs RISP is .249. The batting ave is .254. Seems they are who they are on a consistent basis. I would have thought the difference would be much greater given all the discussion of poor hitting with RISP on this site.

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