Game Post 8/8


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Wednesday: 7:15 pm CT on WGN/670AM



1. Anthony Rizzo (L) 1B
2. Javier Baez (R) 2B
3. Jason Heyward (L) RF
4. David Bote (R) 3B
5. Tommy La Stella (L) DH
7. Kyle Schwarber (L) LF
8. Ian Happ (S) CF
9. Addison Russell (R) SS
1. Whit Merrifield (R) 2B
2. Alex Gordon (L) LF
3. Salvador Perez (R) DH
4. Hunter Dozier (R) 3B
5. Lucas Duda (L) 1B
6. Jorge Bonifacio (R) RF
7. Brett Phillips (L) CF
9. Drew Butera (R) C
Bullpen Usage

via Baseball Press.

Opposing pitcher

Scouting Report from Brooks Baseball.

Heath FillmyerHeath Fillmyer has thrown 494 pitches that have been tracked by the PITCHf/x system in 2018, all of them occuring in the MLB Regular Season. In 2018, he has relied primarily on his Fourseam Fastball (93mph) and Slider(84mph), also mixing in a Change (86mph). He also rarely throws a Curve (80mph) and Sinker(92mph).

His fourseam fastball is basically never swung at and missed compared to other pitchers' fourseamers, has less armside movement than typical, results in many more groundballs compared to other pitchers' fourseamers and has essentially average velo. His slider results in many more groundballs compared to other pitchers' sliders, has primarily 12-6 movement and has some two-plane movement. His changeis a real worm killer that generates an extreme number of groundballs compared to other pitchers' changeups and is slightly firmer than usual. His curve has primarily 12-6 movement, has little depth and results in somewhat more flyballs compared to other pitchers' curves. His sinker (take this with a grain of salt because he's only thrown 16 of them in 2018) is basically never swung at and missed compared to other pitchers' sinkers, is an extreme flyball pitch compared to other pitchers' sinkers and has less armside run than typical.

Sean's Note: Fillmyer has only made 4 big league starts, he also generates a lot of ground balls (53%). The right hander does much better against lefties than righties. Right handed batters are posting a .307 batting average against him.

Final Thoughts: David Bote moves into the cleanup spot after his 3 RBI night Tuesday. Fillmyer struggles against right handed hitters so it could be a good game for Javy Baez, Willson Contreras, and Addison Russell. The first two Cubs starters easily handed the weak Royals lineup. Jose Quintana pitched well last start so hopefully he can build on that.


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  • So far the series victory combinations have gone this way: Javy/Hamels in game 1, Bote/Monty in game 2. So that must mean LL/Q in game 3.

  • In reply to HefCA:

    LLQLJ? :o)

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    In reply to Milk Stout:

    I am going to go out on a limb and say he forgot that La Stella's name is not Leon and its Tommy so TL vs LL

  • In reply to Jim Odirakallumkal:

    I may have been too obscure with my acronyms. I meant LL as in Willson ;-)

  • One thing to watch tonight for is Rizzo's 1,000th career hit. He currently stands at 998.

  • Quintana has had a bright July/August other than a very dark outing against the DirtyBirds, and has gone at least 6 innings in 4 of his last 5 starts. He'll be lights-out against a weak KC lineup and the bullpen will continue to shine, and we may even build enough of a lead to allow Chatwood to emerge from the shadows.

    Bote gets the start in the cleanup spot. I know it's a SSS and he may regress, but his showing so far has been illuminating.

    A few bright spots on the injury front: Darvish threw a successful sim game earlier today, Morrow is ramping up his throwing program, and Bryant has begun baseball activities, though still not swinging a bat. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

    Javy's ascension into superstardom has been a bright spot on the Cubs season. He'll have a huge game tonight, leading the offense as they light up Fillmyer. Hopefully MVP voters can see beyond his dim OBP numbers and are enlightened enough to consider his entire game, which the other MVP candidates cannot hold a candle to.

    While I'm hinting around at the 30th anniversary of the lights being turned on at Wrigley I can't help but think of the slim glimmer of hope the Brew Crew are clinging to. 2.5 games behind a banged-up Cubs team in early August isn't an insurmountable climb, is it? I think Pat Travers summed it up well if they remember we still go head-to-head 8 more times this season:

    "No kiddin', I'm ready to go!
    When I find her boy don't you know.
    If I get her in my sight
    Boom, Boom, what is it? ..."

    Go Cubs!

  • Yep, 8-8-88. Then came the rain. I got soaked. I did not slide on the tarp. That nights sliding by Davis, Maddox, and Landcaster is the only acceptable pairing of Maddox and Landcaster in a sentence.

  • What happened to that stubbs guy? His sky is falling panic shtick was funny to me

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    In reply to bolla:

    Usually shows up at playoff time if we are llosing. Think he is cardinal fan

  • Look a nibbling quintana scared to throw strikes to weak hitting team, this dude man

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    In reply to bolla:

    Seriously, how about giving it a rest? We get you didn’t like the trade, but the fact is, Q didn’t make the trade. Q didn’t have any control over the trade. So why not support the players on the team rather than mock them?

  • In reply to John Winter:

    “Seriously”shut the f up and don’t worry about what I say. If you don’t like it don’t reply

    You got dudes spamming every thread complaining about Joe Maddon and I don’t see you saying a damn thing to them. Mind your business

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    In reply to bolla:

    No need for that language here. Be cordial and respectful.

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    In reply to bolla:

    Believe me, I spent the 2016 playoffs and 2017 responding to the Joe hate. You have no idea. I think I must have just gotten tired of it eventually. And we’ve been marking 1 year since John’s passing. Having read this blog since the beginning, I feel that standing up for the high level of discourse that John stood for, and which made this site special, is my business.

  • In reply to bolla:

    I mainly avoid these confrontations and BS posts. In the past I participated on other Cubs blogs that thrived on this kind of garbage conflict. I had to learn to let it go and disengaged. Ironically, I found this blog at the same time, and I read the Cubs Den for years without ever commenting, I just loved content and honestly, I almost envied the camaraderie, the lack of childish bickering and name calling in the comments. Those were the days.

    So I'll address this one, because guys like you can never quit with their complaining about the same players and trades because you want the response. You are basically trolling. Then you get the response and tell someone "if you don't like it don't read it." Well, that doesn't make any sense. You are commenting on a freaking blog, dude. Everyone is reading it. And when we get sick of it, you get to hear about it. So calm down and quite acting like high school kid.

    It really bums me out that this is even allowed on this blog. It never used to be.

  • In reply to JohnCC:

    I said if you don't like it don't reply. You typed that long winded response for nothing. I'm allowed to post my thoughts

    If I don't like how quintana or wilson or whoever is pitching I can say that. Quintana is currently down 5-0 to one of the worst hitting teams in mlb by the way. Not sure what you dudes are even talking about.

  • In reply to bolla:

    You are not allowed to post your trashy insults and "f-yous" to other posters. If John were still here, you would have been banned by now. If you're still not sure what this dude is talking about, grow up or go away.

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    In reply to bolla:

    We have a long history on this site of civil and respectful conversations. It isn't that it is civil because we always agree. But there is a basic level of respect that we have for one another. Many of us have floated around the internet and participated in comment sections where comments like "shut the f up" were acceptable. On this one it is not. You are welcome to post your thoughts. I know I, and likely many others, welcome your insights. But when the comment changes to ad hominem attacks, use fo foul/vulgar language (and yes, "shut the f up" is inappropriate language on here as this site was about establishing a community of open communication, a community antithetical to "shut the f up"). It is not about being prudish but that comments like that do not really elevate the level of conversation. But we have the right and, even when John was around, the commenters would do some policing if things were clearly out of hand. While we don't have the authority to delete comments that we feel went over the line we can, and always have, indicated when one did. This isn't about picking on you or anyone else. This is about re-establishing the norm of civil conversation where all of us learn something new every day on this site.

  • In reply to bolla:

    You are out of line.

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    In reply to bolla:

    It is "insightful" exchanges like this that have me seriously thinking about not bothering to read this blog anymore.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    This guy bolla is definitely into christian p territory now. John would have tossed him without a doubt. What’s the deal Cubs Den? Who is running the show now?
    Telling somebody to f off isn’t a term of service violation?
    The kid can’t take criticism and attacks back in response when those responses are nothing more than opinions, constantly derides and belittles players that aren’t his favorites and has even brought racial responses into 2 or maybe 3 of his posts.
    Now we have long term solid denizens talking about leaving because of him?


    TOS him.....enough is enough, ban him for a month, whatever.

    Do Something.........this needs to STOP NOW

  • In reply to Wickdipper:

    Moderating a commenting section is probably the most difficult part of managing a blog and it's a thankless job. When Cubs Den was "John's blog," he could spend more time guiding and controlling the environment he envisioned. Now that others have taken up the reins, it seems to me more member-policed. Everyone on the leadership group has done a remarkable job in keeping John's dream and our Cubs discussion refuge at the high standard set by the founder. All that said, on any blog there will be an occasional member who tests the enforcement of the rules. I don't know whose "job" it is to deal with them, but if it isn't done there's a danger that Cubs Den will devolve into one of the sites many of us left to come here.

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    In reply to Cliff1969:

    Part of it is that EVERYONE agreed that John had the authority to ban people, reprimand people, etc. Through no fault of their own, would we all agree that Michael E, Dabs, Sean, etc. have that authority? I noticed that not long after John passed away the quality of conversation went down quickly. I am just not sure anyone has the authority to "police" the comments section. I certainly wouldn't want to do it nor do I feel I should have the authority to do so. I think that is the problem, though. It makes me wonder how much John protected us from inflammatory posters.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    I certainly value your input Joel and hope that you'll be around for the long run. I know it's frustrating that this site doesn't have an authority figure to keep things under control but I still think that this website is as respectful of a website as any other cubs related site it's much worse anywhere you go and I still look at cubs den as the best place to have intelligent cubs related conversations.

    I'm not condoning what Bolla said I think using that language is uncalled for and that's the type of interaction that we all came to cubs den to avoid. That being said in Bolla's defense I've never once had one issue or argument with him and I've had many respectful cubs related debates and conversations with him. I think the reason that we have a mutual respect is that I show respect for his perspective and I don't mock his opinions every time that I disagree and he's returned that respect back towards me. I think in some ways Bolla tends to get unfairly attacked or gets his opinion mocked at times by a few posters because he tends to repeatedly pick on certain players and he at times exaggerates his take on those players. I'm not saying I agree with those criticisms but I don't think they're outrageous either Quintana and Justin Wilson haven't played to their potential and it's hard for me to come to their defense when one fan criticizes them on a cubs blog. Now on one hand, Bolla needs to show better restraint on his replies when someone bashes his opinion on their replies but I have felt like at times the sarcastic and condescending replies to some of his criticisms towards the teams have been crossing the line. I'm not saying that's the case in this context but I don't know about his history of interactions with John Winter either although if this is their 1st interaction then the insult was absolutely uncalled for. I'm not saying I agree with some of Bolla's angry reactions to peoples replies but I do think that at times he tends to get attacked every time he criticizes a player. I'd like to see less controversy on this website just like you but I'm just saying other posters need to be careful too when they mock a posters viewpoint or when they make a sarcastic reply to others comments. I disagree with many fans opinions and I've had debates with Bolla over many topics but I'm always careful not to talk to him or others in a condescending tone and that's why I haven't had one negative discussion with Bolla. Again I understand why everyone is riled up with this unfortunate debate but I'm just saying that at times I think others provoking Bolla and talking to him in a condescending manner is provoking argument as well.

    I think my viewpoint is somewhat influenced because Bolla has generally been respectful towards me individually but I just don't agree that he's as disrespectful as Christian P or cubstalk from years ago at least most of Bolla's posts are baseball related and not trolling. We all have different levels of tolerances for what people say but I just wanted you to know that your opinion and presence is valued on these boards

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    In my opinion, posters can only "self-police" so far. There must be some sort of authority to handle the "clean up on aisle 6" that will occasionally happen. Ultimately, everyone's cooperation is needed, regardless of the rules imposed or who is in charge of enforcing them.

    kkhaivi, I appreciate the insight that bolla brings and he often makes excellent points. It's the other stuff that I find irritating, the "I told you it was an awful trade and all of you who were in favor are idiots..." type of comments that he often makes. His comments often approach or cross the line of personal attacks. For example, this comment in this very thread about another commenter; "His sky is falling panic shtick was funny to me."

    It's interesting that his comment that started the blowout was related to Quintana nibbling at the corners instead of aggressively going after the batters. That's a sentiment stated by several Denizens on this post. bolla probably didn't deserve the response he got for that comment in this thread, but he's expressed his disdain for the Quintana trade so many times that it's understandable how someone would get tired of hearing it.

    I hope that bolla will give it some thought, make an adjustment or two in the way he approaches other Denizens and remain a member of the Cubs Den community for a long time.

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    In reply to Joel Mayer:

    It is not just Bolla. I too have had good interactions with him. Which is also why my original comment was "exchanges" and not "comments." There have been multiple times this season where I have told BOTH people in an exchange to "knock it off."

    While the Den is still probably the most respectful site on the internet when it comes to the Cubs I still think it has gone down hill dramatically. There is such vitriol toward cubs players, and not just the "struggling" ones but really good players. And it seems like almost every thread devolves into "competitive distance urination" regarding the current villain/hero of the day. It just seems like we have lost perspective.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    All perfectly fair points Cliff hopefully you guys pointing all of these facts out gives Bolla a better understanding of the type of respectful culture that John worked so hard to implement from the day that he started this blog. I just wanted to respond to give a different perspective and point out that some posters need to be a little more careful in how they go about disagreeing with other posters comments if they're going to get upset if their reply riles that poster up. I think at times the replies towards Bollas comments have been a little sarcastic and condescending but I get how some posters may get irritated at certain posts and I get that people react strongly to different things. And I'm glad that all of you are making the effort to enforce the type of respectful culture that makes this the best blog to go to for intelligent and respectful cubs talk.

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  • In reply to bolla:

    So, understand your contribution to the problem and fix it.

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    Don’t nibble so much Q. See what happens!! If you’re not getting that call on the edges adjust and be more of a shark and take a bite of the Strike Zone. Walks will do you in.
    Look at Fergie Jenkins. He routinely gave up more HRs than others in the NL but also hardly walked anyone. This is not just you but all our pitchers.
    We’ve come from behind before but why give them an advantage?

  • Another screwy strike zone from Joe West. This guy should have retired years ago. Joe has killed the Cubs over the years.

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    Okay time for a bunt against the shift or something to get this kid out of the rhythm......... This guys pitch count is way too low for the 5th inning.

    Need some base runners.

    Dare I say...... Maybe even a bloop n a blast?

  • Anyone ever see a stat on umpires and team records against each umpire? Is that too broad a stat to have? How about pitchers records with each umpire or something to see how much each home plate umpire affects a teams records? There has to be an algorithm for something.

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    In reply to Squareburgers:

    Go to statfox. They have that as well as I use those 2 when deciding betting over/unders, but there is some value for teams/pitchers as well.

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    What the heck was Happ doing there? Did he not even look at the ball?

    Even I knew that thing was going to bounce. Bounce where, I don't know, but since it was going so fast at least let it bounce and then decide to take off for 2nd.

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    2 on 1 out.......We need you Willy !

    Big gap shot please?

  • Lol jose quintana people, but I'm trolling. You gotta be kidding me

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    In reply to bolla:

    He pitched well right until the end. And pitched into the 7th, which most Cubs starters haven’t been able to do. And the fact is if the bats had done anything, he’s probably not even out there for the 7th.

  • In reply to John Winter:

    The royals are bottom 3 in every important offensive statistical category in the al. Pitching well shouldn't be that hard and quintana still allowed 5 runs. It's ok to be objective and a non homer.

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    In reply to bolla:

    With all due respect, you’re anything but objective when it comes to Q.

  • In reply to bolla:

    You are a hack.

  • In reply to Oldno7:

    Correction sir he is a troll.

  • Chatwood looking like his old self. I'd leave him out there even if he has to throw 300 pitches.

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    In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    I’d rather the Cubs put him on the DL and bring up Maples.

  • I was gonna comment how Joe mismanaged the 7th inning but it has gotten pretty aggressive on here tonight.

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    In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    I am normally w you on that, but it Doesn't matter if you don't score any runs.

  • In reply to Jim Odirakallumkal:

    True but game was still in reach at 2-0.

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    Hey we won two taking tonight off

  • Well that sucked.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Yep. Gain a game on the Brewers and hand it right back.

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    In reply to Cliff1969:

    But if we keep handing that game back and forth the cubs will win the division. That is the advantage of being on top.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    I'm not sure that's the way they planned it, but it IS a plan!

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    In reply to Cliff1969:

    It is a horrible plan/strategy, but at least it is an option for the Cubs. The Brewers can't even do that. They have to hope that the Cubs lose games. That is a horrible position to be in.

  • My character is being assassinated. I've NEVER called anyone an idiot for liking the quintana trade NOT ONCE.

    We all have opinions. I've seen people complain about baez when he makes a mistake, so argubaly the most valuable cubs player in 2018 can have several posters complain about him but I can't say anything about justin wilson who implodes 8 out of 10 times or quintana who the cubs paid an high price for who has been underwhelming? This group think you all are on is laughable.You act like I was saying disrespectful personal attacks or something.Dude tells me give it a rest like he's my parent. That's the issue here he aint telling me what to do.

  • "You act like I was saying disrespectful personal attacks or something."

    Uh, yeah, "shut the f-up" is kinda personal. There's a better way to disagree / disengage.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    and the guy who tells me to give it a rest like I'm child , that's perfectly fine? He was just saying the other day how I need to stop complaining about justin wilson after wilson let a 2 run lead become a 4 run lead.

    So when posters habitually whine about joe maddon despite the fact this is the most successful run in cubs history,maddon is the most winningest manager in mlb since taking the cubs job and the cubs have been to 3 straight postseasons maybe 4 and finally won that elusive championship all under his leadership. What is the difference?

    Serious question I'm genuinely trying to figure out exactly what I'm doing that's wrong.Because it seems like others get passes for doing the exact same thing.

  • In reply to bolla:

    Like I said, I value the insight you share here. I don't want to beat this into the ground or come off like I've got a persecution issue, so this will be my last post on this topic.

    I personally don't care what you think of any individual player and, you're right, you're absolutely entitled to your opinion about any of them. But, any time your comment includes an insult, even an innuendo, towards the person or people you're addressing your comment to or about, you risk offending or angering someone. Your comment about Stubbs, for example - what is that if not a backhand swipe at another Denizen? Maybe it's meant in jest, but in the world of text where smiles and positive body language don't apply, the reader infers the emotion.

    I have already stated that you probably didn't deserve the response you got to your Quintana comment. You could have allowed it to pass, softened it with a joke, explained that you weren't complaining about the trade but just irritated that Quintana wasn't aggressive against a light-hitting lineup. You chose, instead, to attack and now present the argument as whether your attack was justified or not.

    I'm not going to spend my evening pulling out other examples as I think you're intelligent enough to see what I'm getting at. My advice, which is probably worth no more than you paid for it, it to address others here as if we were all sitting around having a beer together. If I lived closer, I'd be glad to buy you one. Make your points and state your opinions as if we were face-to-face. A short pause to reread your comment before hitting the "comment" button isn't a bad practice, either.

    I hope to benefit from your knowledge and insight for a long time. Please help all of us do that.

  • In reply to Cliff1969:

    That's cool man. I'll police myself from now on

    I assure this blog I'll police myself in the best way you possibly can.

    Was never trying to disrespect johns blog or anything close.

    I Apologize to john winter for my response and anyone else I irritated.

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