Feasting on Redlegs--Cubs 10 Reds 0

It was a long and sometimes frustrating day in Cincinnati, but at the end of it the Cubs picked up half a game on the Cardinals and Pirates. The Twins could not help the cause with a win against Milwaukee. So the team is actually farther away from first place then where they started the day, but the Cubs have a chance to rattle off a few more wins before it is all said and done.

The game started with a familar feeling. Ben Zobrist drew a leadoff walk against Reds starter Sal Romano, and moved to third on a Tommy La Stella single. Kris Bryant hit a groundball to third baseman Eugenio Suarez, who fired home to get Ben Zobrist. Anthony Rizzo struck out and Willson Contreras flied out to end the inning, and it was deja vu all over again with a runner stranded on third with no outs.

Thankfully, Jose Quintana was excellent, and so the early struggles with runners in scoring position mattered little. Quintana did not a base hit until the fifth inning. A second inning walk to Adam Duvall gave the Reds their first base runner, but a one out walk and base hit gave the Reds their first and their best scoring chance of the game. Kris Bryant made a nice play on a Tony Cruz groundball to start the inning ending double play. The Reds would manage to put a runner in scoring position just one other time in the game. Jose Quintana would throw seven scoreless innings. Mike Montgomery and Steve Cishek finished out the three hit shut out.

The Cubs took their first lead of the day in the third inning. Ben Zobrist and Tommy La Stella combined for the second time to give the Cubs runners on the corners with no outs. Kris Bryant hit another groundball, but the Reds had to try for two with it hit back up the middle. The Reds only managed to get a single out at second, and the Cubs had a 1-0 lead. The Cubs added another tally in the fourth inning. Ian Happ launched a home run to right field to double the Cubs lead.

The Cubs broke the game open in the fifth inning. Ben Zobrist walked for the second time to lead off the inning, and moved into scoring position with Bryant's one out walk. Rizzo ripped a double into right field to double the Cubs lead again. Contreras struck out and had a generally miserable day at the plate. Happ was intentionally walked again. Romano loaded the bases with his two out walk of Addison Russell. Jason Heyward hit a pop up in shallow right field. Jesse Winker for some reason didn't charge hard and instead Scooter Gennett tried to make an amazing catch on it. The ball tipped off of his glove into the right field corner for a triple that might have been an inside the park grand slam if not for the stop sign. The Cubs 7-0 lead was more than enough for Q tonight.

The Cubs added single tallies in the seventh, eighth and ninth to break double digits for the ninth time in 2018. Heyward and Rizzo each had a sacrifice fly and the final run scored on Albert Almora Jr.'s double.

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Source: FanGraphs

Masterful Q
It wasn't his best start ever. It wasn't even his best start in a Cubs uniform, but it was a much needed performance from the sometimes maligned Cubs southpaw. This is the guy that the front office was trading blue chip prospects for last season. The innings were crucial with Hendricks unable to make it through six innings and the bullpen having to pitch into yet another extra inning game just hours before. Quintana shut the Reds down and gave the offense a chance to explode.

RISP Reversal
The story of game one today was the fact that not a single Cubs position player had a hit with runners in scoring position. Kyle Hendricks provided the lone hit in the ample opportunities the Cubs had to take the first game. Bryant twice put the ball in play, and was rewarded for it in the third inning. Ian Happ is hot again after being left for dead by some, and is another guy that just seems to like to hit in Ohio. The unusual pairing of Ben Zobrist and Tommy La Stella did its thing with the pair reaching base a combined seven times. Heyward's "triple" might not have been earned but he managed another base hit and sacrifice fly for a very productive return to the lineup in the night cap. It is frustrating to watch the feast and famine nature of the lineup, but when they are on it is a deadly group.

Random Reference
Q was divine tonight.

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Tags: Cubs, Jose Quintana, Reds, Sal Romano

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  • Posted previously but worth repeating, Q's game score today of 79 was the highest by a Cub starter this year, and tied for the 39th best MLB GS of 2018. That's out of 2620 total starting performances this year in MLB.

  • In reply to wthomson:

    Just a fantastic performance and Q showed what he's capable of when he's commanding that fastball like he did consistently with the sox. Just a fun stat in 2 starts this year vs the braves Q is 0-1 with a 16.73 ERA and keep in mind his 1st game vs atl in wrigley where he went 2 innings 9 runs was played in about the worst pitching conditions that I've ever seen. Let's just say we can thank those conditions for our comeback down 10-2. Also keep in mind that's a tough lineup that's kicking ass and winning games. Take those 2 outings away and he has a much more impressive 5-2 line with a 2.88 ERA. He had a 3.8-3.9 ERA with the Cubs last season so when you really break things down I think it's fair to say that some fans are making his Cubs tenure seem much worse than it is. And I admit for the most part as a guy that saw him a lot with the sox I feel like his command of his fastball has been way more inconsistent with the Cubs but the overall numbers aren't really bad. I get we have high expectations for Q but my only point is let's give him a real chance to prove himself I feel cub fans like all big market fans are a little harsh on premium acquisitions in general (remember how harsh people were towards Lester in 2015). I think in some ways I'm encouraged bc I feel that he hasn't been locked in at any timing with the Cubs other than last sept. so it's good to see that he's pitching alright without his best stuff. I think we can expect better things moving forward even though it's a long season and there's going to be ups and downs.

  • In reply to kkhiavi:

    And FYI that line was 4-2 with a 2.88 ERA ENTERING TODAY. He's now 5-2 and that era should be a lot lower after 7 shutout innings. Pretty solid for a guy that stinks lol

  • In reply to kkhiavi:

    But you can’t take those 2 outings away. That is how he pitched those days. Hopefully he will continue to become more consistent.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Agreed and and I've been consistent in saying that while fans are overreacting in part bc of their high expectations Q still just flat out isn't pitching to my expectations and having followed the white sox we can safely say we know he just hasn't executed as well with the Cubs ESP with his fastball command. I'm not making excuses for him he has to be better and more consistent but it's my opinion overall that the common Cubs fans are making more of his struggles then there is and I'm just providing a picture that when you analyze his Cubs tenure while he hasn't met my expectations of him he's still better then a lot of people think as he had a 3.8-3.9 ERA with the team last season which isn't where I want it to be but still pretty solid. And when you think about it yes you can't take away that start off where he gave up 9 runs in 2 innings but at the same time that was not baseball weather and while you can't erase that start you can still put things into context and realize that the weather played a huge part in how that game unfolded and those were pretty extreme circumstances and while it won't be the last cold game he pitches in its hard for me to see him pitching in much worse conditions. Let's get real we had scored what 12 runs the last inning or so mainly on free passes it seemed really difficult to pitch and joe Maddon himself said we won that game bc that wasn't appropriate baseball weather to pitch in. So when you consider how much that game hurt his ERA and when you consider that he pretty much won't be pitching in similar conditions again moving forward then you've gotta feel a lot better about his outlook moving forward because the reality is that starts the biggest reason why his numbers are below expectations. Now let's be honest given his resume he should be under a 3.5 ERA I'm not making excuses for him he's gotta be better if we want to go anywhere but I just don't think he's that far off and i think it's silly anyways to be overreacting when a guy doesn't pitch to your expectations in April. by the end of the year we won't give 2 shits about a 4.47 ERA in May as long as he gets the job done in future big starts for the most part and shows up playoff time. To me it's almost like saying a prospect is bad after a so so month or 2 when they have a such a long ways to go before anyone can jump to any conclusions. Q still has 3 years left to make us feel better about trading Eloy my only point is why not give him the benefit of the doubt until we actually see how it plays out were only 1/7 of the way through his Cubs tenure

  • The Cubs are now +67 in run differential, behind only Houston (+96) and Boston (+70). Pythagoras says that the W-L issue will even out in their favor, but in their first 40 games there were 12 where they scored 0-2 runs, of which they won exactly 1 game. When they won, they scored 7.7 runs (RA=3.1); when they lost, they scored 1.8 runs (RA=5.0). Nobody consistently hits excellent pitching, of course, but the Cubs are feasting on bad teams (72 RS vs 39 RA, 7W-4L against sub .500 teams), and thus far struggling against potential playoff contenders. If this isn't corrected, it's likely to be a short playoff run.

    I haven't looked into it yet, but I'll bet that impatient ABs against good pitching is the major contributing factor to their current W-L record. Their overall pitching appears to be of playoff quality.

  • In reply to wthomson:

    Agreed I saw that recently and that's very encouraging John always used to say that run differential is a good predictor of playoff success and it's great that were doing that even with rizzo, Russell, Baez lately, schwarber lately, happ, heyward, Quintana, Hendricks and darvish all playing below expectations either this year or at least lately. I don't even feel that we've played close to our best baseball yet the run differential has been very strong

  • In reply to kkhiavi:

    In addition the NL is wide open at this time. Don't sleep on the Brewers though I've been watching those guys and they look really good and they still have their ace Jimmy Nelson coming back. I don't think people realize how good that bullpen it maybe the best in baseball with knebel, hader (maybe the best relief pitcher in the game, jeffress and they have several other promising hard throwers. Yelich and Cain have been huge pickups for them, Aguilar is raking and they're Core from last year like Thames, Braun, pina, shaw, Santana and arcia are all struggling mightily yet they're still winning bc of that pen. I know it's easy to underestimate the new kid on the block but I think they're really really good and going to push us big time. Just to reiterate if you guys don't know josh hader then remember that name bc this kid is and is going to continue to be incredible if he stays healthy

  • In reply to kkhiavi:

    I know we handled them but I think we kind if caught their lineup at the right time and every game was close.

  • In reply to kkhiavi:

    I believe Addi is hitting much better last couple weeks. Base running not so much. But if Addi stays in the .260 I’ll take it.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    I listed guys that I felt have been struggling this year or lately. To me until a recent hot stretch addy hasn't been carrying his weight even or played to my expectations of his talent level although he hasn't by any means been bad. For me with his strong K to walk ratio and his solid Obp I'd just expect better power numbers as his slugging % is extremely low. The addy I know plays clean defense and is a power threat so to me we should expect a surge in power from him. In general I think we have a lot more guys we can expect to turn it around then not. I just hope our bullpen doesn't repeat last years 2nd half

  • In reply to wthomson:

    The biggest wow factor I got form your post is they are 7-4 against sub .500 teams. That is a small amount after 40+. That said just typing this I think that has to be light. Off the top of my head they have had 7 agains Miami, 4 against the Reds, and 3 vs. the Sox. That is 14. Either way the schedule will likely even up at some point.

  • In reply to bleedblue:

    1st series against Miami was split and at least once the Marlins were at .500.

  • Another factor in the Cubs record is (compared to 2016) unusually sloppy defense and mental mistakes that I attribute to a young team. They clearly have spectacular defensive potential, but focus appears to lag a bit at times. They took up the mantle of winning a world series, but they don't seem to have yet accepted the possibility of being one of baseball's all-time great dynasties.

  • In reply to wthomson:

    Going way out on a limb, I see the possibility of 5 HOF'ers on the current roster. They shall remain nameless at the present time.

  • In reply to wthomson:

    Bryzzo, contreras, Lester are the only ones I see although Hendricks can go a long way if they kill it over the next 10 years. I'd say mainly that 1st 4 ESP if Lester wins 200 which is almost becoming like the new 300 with today's bullpen usage. Baez maybe my favorite player but can't see him getting there if that's who you were thinking the stats geeks don't love him as much as we do

  • In reply to wthomson:

    Ooh, ooh, I'll try! I'm literally listening to "Centerfield" right now. "Put me in, coach":

    Honestly, I don't see 5, but I'm admittedly a small-Hall guy. I'm also a drunken optimist. Here goes:

    Theo, Jed, and/or Joe are very probable, but not included in this discussion (I'd also include the Tickets).

    Barring injury, Kris Bryant will go in on the first ballot, into what I call the "inner circle" of HOF'ers. As much as we appreciate him, I still think his greatness is overlooked.

    Rizzo has a shot. He has been as consistently great as any hitter in baseball the last few years. In fact, his numbers are eerily consistent. The Hall is tough, but he's 28. 7 more seasons with 30+HR and 100+RBI, plus a few more lesser campaigns and the counting stats will be there. Several GG's, top 5-10 MVP finishes, and multiple rings (!) will add to his legacy. Plus that character clause thing. Tony's a pretty good dude.

    Where next? Lester? You can make a case he's been one of the most consistently good pitchers of his generation. He'll go well over 200 wins and 2000 K's when hardly anyone is doing that anymore. Add in the multiple rings and respected leadership and a case could be made. But not by me.

    Schwarber, Almora Jr., Russell, Contreras, or Happ? If you added all there career highlights together, and ignored the bad stuff, then maybe. Maybe.

    El Mago. El Mago. He could finish with a career WAR of 100, or 30. For all the promise even I see in him, he is getting too late of a start to be an all-time great. I truly believe he settles in career-wise just under his ceiling. I see him playing until he's 40, finishing around 375 HR's, 1300 RBI, 1300 R, with an MVP, 5-6 AS appearances, a couple GG's, and a few rings. That's a pretty solid case for a premier middle infielder. But I'm a drunken optimist.

    Am I close? Go Cubs!

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    I usually let typos go. I obviously know the Rickett's, not the Tickets, own the Cubs. But that next autocorrect got me thinking.

    "There" vs. "Their". I know the difference. And it gives me a great segue into my current battle.

    About 4-5 years ago, John wrote an amazing article. I don't remember what it was about, but I know it was amazing because John wrote it. In that amazing article, John missed a typo. He used "to" when it should have been "too", or "two". or something like that. I don't remember those details.

    What I vividly remember is a comment made. Someone rudely listed the proper uses of the various forms of to, too, and two. John was obviously and rightfully offended by someone questioning his writing ability. He responded to this person who had just insulted him and questioned his competence in his very livelihood with a calm "why in the world would you think I don't know the difference?". John was pissed, but responded with the measured demeanor that set the tone for this community for years to come.

    We should remember this lesson, and learn from it. It's a lesson in how to interact with someone you disagree with, or even feel insulted by. The history of this site is to be civil and respectful to one another, even when we disagree.

    You'll get tired of hearing me say this before I give up and quit Cubs Den.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    BP, thank you for your efforts to keep Cubs Den the respectful arena of discussion John intended it to be. I'll buy you a beer (or something aged a little longer) one of these days...

  • In reply to wthomson:

    It is way to early to say we have 5 hall of famers. When is the last time a starting line up/ a team roster had 5 HOF guys on the same roster?

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    I think it is closer to 1 or 2 hall of famers on this roster

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    From SABR:
    Seventy-eight times a team has had five Hall of Famers for at least part of the season. Four of these had eight such players: the 1930-33 Yankees. A look at these four teams demonstrates two points: The first, not surprisingly, is the Hall’s preponderance of players from the late 1920s and early 1930s, presumably because of that era’s inflated batting averages. The other, very surprisingly, is the lack of direct correlation between having many Hall of Famers and outstanding success. Although 1930-33 fall within the Yankee dynasty years (1921-1964), the Yanks won only one pennant during those years (1932). Their world championship teams of 1936 through 1939, in contrast, had “only” five Hall of Famers.

    Seven teams had seven Hall of Famers: the 1927 and 1929 Giants; the 1933 Cardinals; the 1934 Pirates; the 1927 and 1928 Athletics; and the 1928 Yankees. The two principles mentioned above apply: All of these teams are in that same era, and the Giants, in particular, show a pattern they continued into the 1960s of having a large number of Hall of Famers with little to show for it.

    Of the sixteen teams with six Hall of Famers, all but two – the 1912 Athletics and the 1956 Dodgers – played from 19213 to 1934. True to form, those Athletics did not win the pennant, and the 1956 Dodgers, although pennant-winners, did not win the World Series; it was their predecessors, in 1955, with five Hall of Famers, who had broken the Dodger drought.

  • In reply to wthomson:

    I believe that the '69 Cubs were the last Cub team with multiple HOFers: Banks, Williams, Jenkins and Santo

  • In reply to wthomson:

    Fun question: Which Little League team had the most HOFers on its roster?

  • In reply to wthomson:

    The '69 Cubs also had Leo Durocher as their manager.

  • In reply to wthomson:

    The '70 Cubs had 5 HOFers : Santo, Williams, Ernie, Fergie, and Hoyt Wilhelm. Add Leo and Jack Brockhouse and you get seven (ok, with a couple of asteriks).

    And I STILL can't believe those CUBS teams ( Kessinger, Beckett, Hundley, Holtzman, Hands, ...) never wom anything.

  • In reply to wthomson:

    That's my biggest concern this season. I believe the SP will even out, the pen is deep and solid, and although the offense is still young and inconsistent, we have enough weapons to win when it matters. Any two or three guys get hot and we will win a series. But...

    There seems to be a lack of focus, and even Theo and Jed are concerned and making public comments. They've criticized the "attention span" of the players on the field. Simple defensive miscues, base running blunders, situational hitting, it all needs to tighten up to be Championship caliber.

    We had a complete turnover of the coaching staff. I think, or at least hope, that it just takes time for everything to gel. We can't expect all these differing opinions to mesh immediately. But we do need to "do simple better". We haven't done that.

    There is the real possibility that young players are starting to look forward to a big payday rather than team wins. That's where leadership comes in. Wherever it comes from, we need to tighten up. It was the same story this time last season, and we did get better. Hopefully that lesson sets in earlier and with more urgent weight this time around.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Hard to blame the guys too in some ways winning such a historic and emotional WS even has me hungover almost like there's less regular season urgency and it's kind of like wake me up for the playoffs but it's ok we have that curse breaking ring anyways which is an attitude that the players can't have with how good our division looks. Theo said that in some ways waiting until the last second to turn it on last season and succeeding may almost hurt us bc while it gives us confidence that they can do it again on one hand it also gives the team positive reinforcement to tuning out the 1st half of the year only to turn it on when they need to but that also means we have to expend more energy late season. We also had the easiest 2nd half schedule in baseball last season so to me what we did last season wasn't a sustainable method of contending. In addition due to that atl rainout we have a makeup day aug 30 which means we have to play 23 games in a row from aug-sept which in my view should be illegal they should have a final week just for makeup games bc when we have 7 games to make up and the Brewers have 1 that's what you call an unfair advantage and that shouldn't be a part of the game in my view that can alter playoff races. But the point is with all the off days were going to lose this summer bc of rainouts (with more to come) there needs to be more of a sense of urgency to winning games now. I thought we lost that atl series solely bc they came to the park with more energy and focus then we did.

  • In reply to kkhiavi:

    Hopefully these guys rise to the occasion this time bc I think while we'll always be proud of those guys for getting that ring it would just be unfortunate to only get one WS with all the talent that we've assembled on the roster ESP with all the cost controlled talent. I do have a ton of faith in these guys and I do believe that they will at least play in another WS over the next 3-4 years I truly believe that

  • In reply to kkhiavi:

    Some of the players made comments during the off season and in ST that indicated that last year was a fluke and they were entering this season with a renewed sense of urgency. I haven't seen it on a consistent basis. As I did last year, I keep hoping for the day they will "turn it on" or "get serious" or whatever. I still think it will happen, but I'm impatient...

  • Here are top 3 bullpens in MLB by ERA listed along with their team's total # of games played, the total number of appearances and IP by each team's 5 mostly used relievers, and then their MLB rank in highest amount of innings pitched (1= highest RP IP in the MLB/30=lowest RP IP in MLB)

    Team A:
    46 games played, 97 appearances, 112 1/3 IP ; ranks 5th highest in total innings pitched amongst their entire BP.

    Team B:
    43 games played, 97 appearances, 100 1/3 IP ; ranks 15th highest in total innings pitched amongst their entire BP.

    Team C:
    44 games played, 97 appearances, 112 1/3 IP ; ranks 18th highest in total innings pitched amongst their entire BP.

    Team A is the Brewers, Team B is the Cubs, Team C is the Diamondbacks.

    I feel as though the 3 team's BP ERA's are irrelevant as they are all within .15 points of each other. But I see that good teams are using their bullpens hard. Four of the 6 top teams on the list were teams with serious postseason aspirations. The standout is the Astros, who's BP usage is WAY lower than all the others. Like we might be talking a Z score of 2 or greater. I guess the Indians BP fits in with the low usage of the Astros, but their team BP ERA is 5.73, so they're a whole other conversation. The reason the Astros usage is so low is obvious (Incredible starting pitching). Five of the 6 best BPs by ERA are NL teams. The Braves are way up there too, and their BP usage mostly resembles the Cubs usage, but with even more appearances by their top 5.

    So I'm interested in seeing how the NL playoff race develops as all these bullpens are leaned on mighty hard because the way the game has recently changed. This kind of bullpen strategy sure seems to be a lot tougher for NL managers. It partly makes me wonder if the DH would change any of that, but I don't really think there's any correlation there, as much as starting pitching just being able to pitch deeper in games, but you'd think in the AL (with the DH) and harder/deeper lineups, that more relief pitchers would be used there.

    But I do ask, considering the facts presented, is the Cubs BP really being overused? It seems like they're right in line with the rest of the league when their bullpen's IP has them squarely in the middle of the pack.

    **I also would like to see our starters go deeper to help cut down on our BP "overuse" and hopefully prevent injury while preserving their effectiveness for the postseason...

  • In reply to Cubber Lang:

    The Cubs were higher earlier in the season since the starters were worse in the first few weeks than now and the preponderance of extra inning games. But that isn't really the point either way to me. We've seen managers adopt strategies that provide short term benefits with long term costs all the time. The most obvious example is the way bullpens are used in the postseason. It took months for Chapman to return to "normal" after the 2016 run and Jansen is still not right from last year's run. The Cubs might be in line with teams that are doing well, but that doesn't equal that it will still mean that the arms that have racked up a lot of April and May innings will be ready for October. At least that is my concern now since until proven otherwise my assumption is this a playoff team.

  • ......haven’t looked at the standings since yesterday, will have to double check but did notice that the Cubs were only 2 or 3 wins and the corresponding 2 or 3 less losses away from having the best record in the NL. Both April and May so far in my mind anyway have not what anyone would call “stellar” and we can all remember the games we’ve kicked away. Baseball seasons are always such a journey...........one of the reasons I like it so much.

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    I wish I could see a number of HOF on this team. Right now, KB is the only one on that path. Like BP, I am a small HOF person. If Javy or Willson were to really raise their game for the next 10 years maybe. For the pitchers, Jon Lester might be voted in as a 3 time (for now) WS winner, but I remember Gibson and more recently Pedro Martinez. Even Burt Blyleven took almost 20 yrs to get in. We have different numbers to look at now for both pitchers and position players. 500 HR used to be a lock but that's getting harder and harder to reach, the same for 300 wins.
    Take Javy for example. His numbers might never be extraordinary, but watching him play everyday I know he's one of the best defenders and baserunners in the game. How to measure that?
    I'd like to mention one more thing too (or to). Just kidding. I grew up being corrected when using the wrong word--for example, amount instead of number (when you can count something--the number of players for example.) I see it here but don't correct anyone, but does anyone want to be corrected? It certainly don't want to be disrespectful or anyone and have learned to let things go, but in my mind I change it. I love it here and don't want to be in any way a disrupter.
    Anyway, I've seen some very good things from the Cubs lately. But please clean up the mental mistakes on the bases and you'll make it easier for all of us to watch.
    Go Cubs!!

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    Baez is no where near a hall of famer. His slash numbers .255/.299/.441. Makes all those great plays but makes to many errors on routine plays.

    Someone above mentioned Joe Maddon for the hall of fame. The only way Maddon gets in the baseball hall of fame is if he buys a ticket. Although Maddon might get in the basketball hall of fame. They let anyone in that hall.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    This is true. Ability? Yes. On field performance? No.

    I love Báez as much as anyone in here. I have defended him for 4 years in here. But I am getting tired of his up and down play as a hitter. For as “smart” as he gets credit for with some of the crazy good instinct, I am think he can be equally “dumb” as a hitter. He just loses his approach and discipline. A guy who lets 30% of his at bats get to an 0-2 count will never be successful in MLB. Bryant gets there too much, IMO, and he is at 23%. The average MLB hitter hits in the .160 range when the counts goes 0-2. Baez is now at .105. If you keep swinging at balls, you will find yourself 0-2 way too much. I wish he were more cerebral as a hitter. I really liked what I saw the first 3 weeks, but there has been a regression in approach which bothers me.

    I hope he gets the ship righted now the Russell is hitting. This lineup is really close to breaking out.

  • Amir Garrett said he was upset baez showboated in may 2017 when he hit a grand slam off him so that's why he was so demonstrative after the strikeout lol. He held that in for a whole year. I like how almora and rizzo took offense they were ready to brawl.

  • In reply to bolla:

    Baez is one of the biggest showboats in baseball. He shouldn't get upset at anything a pitcher does.

  • NO QUITTERS IN BASEBALL!!!!!!

  • Happ starting at 3B for Bryant. I don't know what information led to this decision and who knows maybe KB is beat up or fatigued but it's hard to think of our lineup right now without Bryant ESP with the way rizzo, schwarber and javy are laboring. I can't really complain I'm the one always clamoring about resting our key players but I'm generally not a fan of sitting guys when that guy happens to be the hottest hitter in your lineup. Let's hope this maneuver pays off its hard not to think that we're taking it real easy on the Reds resting our 2 best RPs in the extra inning game yesterday and now sitting a hitter whose seemingly in his best form that he's been in all year despite having an off day tomorrow. Hopefully the guys pull through because its already a bit disappointing that we lost that 1st game that we should've won and I get our position players didn't play a good game but it's still probable that we get that win if at least cishek and perhaps morrow were used and we treated that ballgame with more urgency. I think it would be extremely disappointing to come away with 2/4 and count me as nervous that the division's going to be much more difficult to win then last year the Brewers pitching staff is pitching really well and winning them a lot of games even with their potent offense surprisingly struggling and ace Jimmy Nelson due to return mid season

  • I am not as convinced on the Brewers, their starting pitching is not very good and for all the nashing off teeth on our bullpen usage check out theirs. Hader is on pace for about 100 innings and Jeffress isn’t far behind.

    Their run differential is not reflective of their record. They are leaning extremely hard on that bullpen and it is paying big dividends, can they ride it for 116 games? My guess is it gives out at some point.

  • In reply to bleedblue:

    I agree that the SP is the biggest question mark but they also have their ace Jimmy Nelson coming back and it's a pretty good rotation with Davies, Nelson, and Anderson but idk if it's playoff quality and I think they need to grab another starter which maybe likely given that 4 spots their obvious need. At the same time though their SP while they don't have household names has generally been pretty good since last year and while I consider their rotation to be questionable they still have a great bullpen with 2-3 high end pieces and haders a legit ace reliever.

    Additionally entering the season their offense was supposed to be their strength after acquiring Cain and yelich. Those guys are off to all star level starts and Jesus Aguilars playing great but Thames, Braun, pina, arcia, shaw, and Santana who were their best players are all either injured or in major slumps yet they're still 10 games over .500 and rarely lose unless they're playing the Cubs. And from their perspective you can say once some of those guys get going then the offense will obviously improve and they have Jimmy Nelson and possibly a trade for a SP. if that happens then they're essentially a complete team with a strong Offense, defense, an elite bullpen and still a good not dominant starting rotation.

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