Game Thread 9/22

Series preview is here.


Wednesday: 6:35 pm CT on ESPN, WGN / 670AM



  1. Jon Jay (CF)
  2. Kris Bryant (3B)
  3. Anthony Rizzo (1B)
  4. Ben Zobrist (2B)
  5. Alex Avila (C)
  6. Kyle Schwarber (LF)
  7. Jason Heyward (RF)
  8. Javier Baez (SS)
  9. John Lackey (P)


  1. Eric Sogard (SS)
  2. Neil Walker (2B)
  3. Ryan Braun (LF)
  4. Travis Shaw (3B)
  5. Domingo Santana (RF)
  6. Eric Thames (1B)
  7. Stephen Vogt (C)
  8. Brett Phillips (CF)
  9. Brandon Woodruff (P)

Bullpen Usage

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via Baseball Press.

Opposing pitcher

Scouting Report from Brooks Baseball.

Brandon Woodruff: Brandon Woodruff has thrown 570 pitches that have been tracked by the PITCHf/x system in 2017, all of them occuring in the MLB Regular Season. In 2017, he has relied primarily on his Fourseam Fastball (95mph) and Slider (86mph), also mixing in a Change (85mph).

His fourseam fastball generates a very high amount of groundballs compared to other pitchers' fourseamers, has some natural sinking action and has slightly above average velo. His slider generates fewer whiffs/swing compared to other pitchers' sliders, results in many more groundballs compared to other pitchers' sliders and has primarily 12-6 movement. His change generates fewer whiffs/swing compared to other pitchers' changeups, is slightly firmer than usual, results in somewhat more flyballs compared to other pitchers' changeups and has slight armside fade. 

Michael's note: Lefties have eaten Woodruff up so stacking the lineup in that direction makes sense, but that isn't going to stop me from my next selection...

Who Could Have A Day?

Javier Baez. Because who else am I going to pick? He's my guy.

But on a serious note, this does seem like a good matchup for Javy since Woodruff is primarily a fastball pitcher and his slider has not proven to be a good chase pitch. He is a ground ball pitcher and Javy gets a lot of base hits on hard ground balls. I think he comes through with a couple today, including another big hit with two strikes.

Final Thoughts

Finish it. At this moment the Brewers have their backs against the wall and won't go down without a fight. They'll come out focused.

Mr. Lackey, you pitched well in your last outing before you lost your mind. You are at your best when you play with an edge, just be careful not to step over it. You've pitched in plenty of games bigger than this and your counterpart hasn't. Be a pro.

Team, go in there and leave no doubt in anyone's mind who owns this division, now and in the coming years.

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  • Best game thread all year. Especially the Final Thoughts

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    Gets that means its time to hang up my cleats. First one I have ever done gets voted the best of the year (voting is now closed by the way).

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Yikes. No idea where that came from.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Well, voted best by me. Not sure how much that's worth.

    (I actually am sure. It's not worth a lot)

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    You could be the smartest person in the world with the most impeccable taste as well. That is how I am imagining you right now anyway.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    That's how I like to imagine myself too.

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    In reply to Kramerica20:

    Is this mutual admiration society closed or can I join too? LOL

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Check your headline, Mr. Smartypants best game-thread writer ever. Today is the 22nd.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Was hoping no one was going to notice that. Beginner's mistake. Just looked at the previous game thread and added one. Forgot we didn't have a seperate game thread yesterday, just the series preview.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I guess Sean can have his job back when he returns.

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    In reply to Kramerica20:

    Have I been Wally Pipped already????

    (Sobs in corner)

  • In reply to Sean Holland:

    You can't even use injury as an excuse.

    You chose to consider a wedding more important than a Cubs-Brewers showdown series :)

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    In reply to Michael Ernst:



  • I got to hand to to Maddon. He does not give up. Last year when he had Heyward hitting 2nd into July. Or Schwarber hitting leadoff this year for months. Or Zobrist hitting .192 with 19 RBI in almost 200 plate appearance as the clean up hitter. Does Maddon say this isn't working? Nope he says I know I am right and the data is misleading. Now lets watch Zobrist go 4-4 tonight.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    I don't know... he might be trying to take it is easy on Russell so there is no recurrance of the foot injury (Although, I'd probably not want to rest him until we're done with the Brewers series).

    I'd actually like to see him rest Rizzo a few games if we can clinch early. Even though he nearly hit one out yesterday, he seems a bit frustrated of late, especially on some of the strikeouts.

  • Yea, Riz seems to be battling a little bit with the stikeouts, but he's always been streaky hitter.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Maybe but it sure looks like they will have a very short bullpen tonight. gee, that guy Maddon burning out his relief staff, what a revelation.

  • In reply to willycat:

    What, exactly, would you have had Maddon do differently these last 6 games (in which they are 5-1 by the way)?

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    Thank the players for saving him. Let Jake pitch 6 innings. Leave your best outfield in the game.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Get real. Maddon isn't the one who sets Jake's pitch count limit. He was at 71 pitches when he left the game.
    I actually agree with you on Heyward but Willycat was talking specifically about Maddon exhausting his bullpen of late, which is a ridiculous gripe.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    I would think maddon would have some say or voice on Jake and how he looks and feel.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    He was on a strict pitch limit and Maddon stuck to that limit. Jake left the game with a lead, and Edwards, his replacement, pitched a great inning. You know whats more important than the Cubs winning that game? Jake being completely healthy for the next 6 weeks.
    You know what didn't work? Duensing walking Keon Broxton and his 8% BB rate and 38% K rate. Or Strop throwing 3 strikes and being down 2-1 in the count because the umpire was garbage. Maddon didn't walk the worst hitter in the field, and Maddon didn't blow several crucial calls. The Cubs won by the way.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    A pitcher can get hurt on any play. We can't have them in bubble wrap. If Jake goes 1 more we eliminate 1 inning of bullpen. 4 innings is too many. I love when whiny fans blame umpire. Umpire made a big call at 1st base for Happ. So crying about umps isn't legit. Maddon blew several calls and I thank players for saving the game.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    Maybe Joe will take out lackey after 5???? If we are lucky.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    My issue with Joe's bullpen handling was the quick hook to Duensing, he got a double play ball after giving up a single; why not let him pitch to 1 more batter there, and he'd been pitching well of late too.......

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    In reply to Kramerica20:

    WaitTilNextYear: Your comment of "A pitcher can get hurt on any play. We can't have them in bubble wrap" is recklessly irresponsible. If Jake is on a pitch limit it is because people with a great deal more knowledge of the situation than you or I have said they are confident he will be safe up to that point but then things start getting really dangerous. They do not know precisely the number of pitches (I doubt someone went to Maddon saying, "If he is going to have trouble it will be the 72nd pitch") but they can have a pretty good idea. What you are saying is, paraphrased, "To hell with Arrieta's health and likely effectiveness in the playoffs. We have an inning to get through and an inning less split up among about 15-20 guys in the bullpen is MUCH more dangerous than having a guy coming off an injury get pushed too hard."

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    Mayer. I disagree with you. No matter how safe one is a ligament can tear or a hammy can tweak. If Jake said my lower half feels weak then so be it. Then I do question why at that point. I don't think I said to the heck with his health but if he is feeling good he should have been allowed to shorten the game for the 15-20 guys. Love how when u agree with what they did you throw the old they have more knowledge then u and I line. Very original. If Jake couldn't go past 75. Then skip 1 start. Rondon came back and threw i high leverage spot. Did he have a lot of simulated games for his elbow?

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    In reply to Kramerica20:

    WaitTilNextYear: I am not trying to be "original." I am not talking about esoteric knowledge. I am talking about the fact that you and I don't really know the exact nature of his injury nor its severity. And unless you are an extremely knowledgeable rehab professional (athletic trainer, physical therapist, etc.) I don't trust your knowledge of the situation. Further, the LAST person I trust in a situation like this is the pitcher himself. Jake is very aware of his body and its capabilities, likely more so than most pitchers. But he is also an elite athlete and these guys seldom are able to admit they might be in danger of injury. They always believe they can battle through it. It is part of being an elite athlete. By the time they realize they might be getting injured it is often too late.

    I also disagree that if he can't go past 75 pitches he should have skipped a start. He basically kept the Brewers in check. That isn't easy to do. If it means the bullpen throws 1-2 extra innings I will take that to have Arrieta going and allowing the Cubs to have Montgomery in their bullpen and not have Tseng make that start.

    In short, I will defer to the Cubs who DO have much more knowledge of the details of Arrieta's injury and what he is likely capable of.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    Not lead off with Jon Jay when Zobrist is in the line-up? Or ever?
    I love the guy, off the bench, but he is not a lead-off hitter on a MLB playoff team.
    On this team this year, Zobrist or Bryant should be. AA should play every day going in to the playoffs until he shows he can't. This is not the 2016 pitching staff.

  • Couldn't agree more on Jay, and how can you have Jay and Zobrist in the same lineup; let alone with Avila already in there!

  • In reply to Treebeard:

    I get the LH Line-up part. And giving WC a day off.

    I have to give credit where it is due though, That was a major league at bat by JJ there. 15 pitch single!

  • I'm not saying that Jay shouldn't play, just not as much.......

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    In reply to Treebeard:

    Maddon is picking his spots for Jay. Lately Jay has been pretty hot (6 for his last 13). Also, I think Maddon likes getting that LH bat in the line-up and Jay is a decent OF defender. Not every match-up is a good one but sometimes it is the least bad.

    We may not agree with Maddon's line-up decisions. We may wonder why he doesn't put someone else in there. But he generally does things for a reason rather than robotically filling out the same order regardless of likelihood of success.

  • In reply to willycat:

    So many malcontents with Madden. Dude has kept this team as fresh as imaginable all season, to the point where they head into a critical late season series riding the 2nd best record in the NL since the break. That’s called peaking at the right time. Madden deserves credit for knowing his team a helluva lot better than us fans, as evidenced by 285 regular season wins, and counting, in 3 years. The guy could walk across Lake Michigan and you’d still find reason to crucify him.

    I’m not expecting any wins in October, but that won’t be his fault; other team’s staffs are just better. Regardless, he’s done a tremendous job with this team. Again.

  • In reply to Stubbs:

    That was supposed to say 2nd best in baseball, not NL.

  • In reply to Stubbs:

    Exactly. The guy's teams dominate in the 2nd half every single year without exception. But the "Joe is an idiot" crowd never mentions it. Now that the Cubs are winning crucial games and have a relatively comfortable lead, the Maddon naysayers point to things like him exhausting his bullpen... in several 1 or 2 run games... against the exact teams who are chasing the Cubs... in late September... in games they WON.
    Honestly, some people just need to gripe.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    No one's saying Joe's an idiot (at least I'm not), and I'm definitely not saying I could do a better job, let alone have anyone in the clubhouse or organization listen to me; but I am saying: for all the analytics and data he goes thru, and all the tinkering with the lineups, and all the bullpen / pitching overmaneuvering; can't he just learn from the experiences he has as he goes thru the season, let alone year to year?

  • In reply to Treebeard:

    Why do you ignore his track record of success? What exactly is he supposed to "learn"? It doesn't compute.

  • In reply to wastrel:

    He's supposed to learn when to pull a pitcher, and when to leave them in; when to ride a player who has a hot bat when given the opportunity; not to pull your best hitters for defensive replacements too early and too often; not to have favorite players, because this is business, not personal, so you have to make decisions without emotions; he needs to learn that analytics aren't a panacea, and neither are splits, etc. etc.
    If you were suddenly told you were the coach of the Golden State Warriors, the players might be able to get to the playoffs in spite of you.......

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    In reply to Treebeard:

    Why do you assume that, because you would manage things differently, Joe hasn't "learned from the experiences has has as he goes through the season"? I have heard Joe commenting on experiences he had as a minor league manager 20+ years ago. I have heard him comment that he made a mistake and then go on to not make that mistake again.

    Isn't it also possible he has learned from the experience of "playing the hot hand" when that "hot hand" was achieved in a game that was a favorable match-up for that player only to see him wilt in an equally UNFAVORABLE one the following day? Or that he stayed too long with a good hitter who wasn't a good fielder only to see 2-3 balls drop that shouldn't have on the off chance that MAYBE that good hitter MIGHT get another PA? Or stayed to long with his starting pitcher rather than bringing in the bullpen guy whose JOB it is to "relieve" the starting pitcher and say, "Don't worry, we've got your back"?

    I am not saying that Maddon is perfect or that I agreed with all his moves in any given game or series. But I do trust he is doing the best he can given the information (analytics) as well as his experience and knowledge of the team.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    I will just have to disagree with you. I have as much inside info as you do. If that move didn't work out u wouldn't have same thought. It was lucky it worked out well. I don't see Milwaukee as the same offensive threat you do. Also Jake is smarter then u give him credit for. If leg is issue he would have said something.

  • In reply to Stubbs:

    As an old hippie, he does get on my nerves. I can't watch him pre/post game anymore (what's up with the hair dye?).
    Speaking of, don't get me started on the gray hair I grew in games 6-7....

    But, I wouldn't want anyone else managing this team for the foreseeable future.

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    I got gray hair in Games 6 and 7 too. Both times I thought he went to Chapman too early. Then I saw his commentary about Game 6. He said that Chapman was his best chance in a high leverage situation. He also admitted it was a mistake to not have someone warming up to relieve him once the crisis had passed in the 8th and 9th innings.

    In Game 7 he also commented that he had scripted that change. He was anticipating that moment when he brought in Lester and when he brought in Chapman.

    As I keep saying, I don't agree with how he did things. But I like that he doesn't do things on a whim or a "hunch." I got enough of that with Baker and have enjoyed taking advantage of the manager of the Cardinals who doesn't know analytics from a...anyway, back to the matter at hand.

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    Besides winning, I hope that Lackey can pretend the 1st inning is actually the 3rd inning and then he'll be dominant. I also hope he can go deep into the game and give our relievers a day off, at least most of them.
    A great, great win yesterday, and this one would be even better!
    Go Cubs!

  • That was a special throw from our defense only RF. A 7-hopper to the cut off man on a bullet hit right to him.

    I laughed out real loud on that one.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    Doesn’t matter now.

  • They need some netting over the bleachers. Somebody is going to get hurt tonight.

  • This is about right for Lackey. Now he’ll settle down and go 6. Won’t matter much. Hope for the split.

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    Why didn't KB go back and tag 3rd? He was close enough or he could have tagged the runner.

  • Great pitch, great composure fielding and throwing Home, great connection with Rivera.


  • In reply to Stubbs:


  • One of the best at bats I've seen in a long time. Nice job JJ !!!

  • I really like Jon Jay, but there are some things I don't like. I don't like him leading off for sure, this experiment has been tested, run it's course, and been proven a failure. But that was a beautiful AB.

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    In reply to BarleyPop:

    I think Maddon constructs his line-up this year around his 2-4 hitters. He really likes Bryant-Rizzo-Zobrist. Then kind of mixes and matches. I don't think he goes into it saying, "OK, obviously, Jay will lead off..." I think things kind of end up that way sometimes.

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    The Brewers have read this book before. Just keeping getting hits and get them before Woodruff is relieved--well, there goes that inning.
    A great job by Jay to wear his arm out and a patient, veteran hitter like Zo does the rest. Now hold them.

  • Gotta walk Shaw there.

  • At least our pen keeps meeting expectations.

  • In reply to Stubbs:

    As does our opponent's pens, and pretty much every pen in baseball history. They give up runs. And we keep winning.

  • Brewers offense just waiting to bust a big inning.

  • In reply to mwillie:

    maybe they can wait till a week from tonight in the Looooouuuuu!

  • In reply to KJRyno:

    Let's hope. I be going to Wednesday night game.

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    I mentioned baseball IQ in the last thread about our minor league outfielders. That's the 6th tool and Shaw didn't have it on that play.

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    Shaw tried to pull an "El Mago", but it just didn't fully compute. Funny thing is Javy was watching from the on-deck circle, and I'm sure chuckled inside.

  • El Mago.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    And I repeat myself...

    El Mago.

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    In reply to BarleyPop:

    El Mago slides!!
    What I don't understand is that sliding into 1st (and 99% of the time it's not a good idea) but the left hand is the one that tags the base when it's the right hand that slides by it--why not touch the right side of the base with the hand that first gets there--the right hand?

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    I wish we had kept Martin on the bench to be used as a pinch runner but he is a better defensive player than Jay and we've seen what defense does.

  • We put the DING in dinger! No? ........close enough

  • "We want to play
    Just a little bit longer."

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    .....but I wanna go home.....don't wanna stay


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    JHey, Tommy just walked, why not take a pitch or two and see what happens? That's the difference between a confident hitter and one who's not.
    C'mon Javy.

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    I was actually pretty impressed with Javy's AB. It started out as usual, with swinging out of his shoes in an attempt at a 600 ft. HR, but I thought he made a nice adjustment mid-AB and calmed himself. A couple nice takes before getting screwed on another bad call.

  • What's worse. Jhays baseball swing or Charles Barkeys golf swing?

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    In reply to mwillie:

    Do you have to ask? Anyone who hasn't seen Charles swing--take a look!

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    I once heard someone (?) describe Barkley's swing as having a "serious hitch in his giddyup". Pretty accurate.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Ha! I actually had this post
    Heywards stance/swing is painful to watch tonight. To much 'hitch in that giddyup'. And not in a good way.
    But lets give credit where credit is due (arcane knowledge alert):\

    Tennessee Earnie Ford!

  • He's falling back into last year's habits. It's pretty ugly looking with all the excess movement. He was much more "quiet" and now seems to be flinching and re-gripping the bat. I was encouraged in the off season, but now it appears he has the Yips at the plate. It's pretty bad to watch.

  • Don’t trust CJ here, but no one is left.

  • In reply to Stubbs:

    Ugh CJ.

  • Well at least Hader and Knebel won’t be available one of these next two. Brewers are due to drop 10 on us tho, so may not matter.

  • Nobody warming up...

  • In reply to mwillie:

    Who would you choose? Pena? Its CJ’s to lose.

  • Walker always kills us. This is gonna be tense.

  • Wilson..Lol

  • In reply to mwillie:

    More like Russell

  • Cubs Win Holmes.......!

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    We've had a few times where our runner's have been in and in sliding by the bag came off it and were tagged out so maybe it all evens out during the season.
    Now it's where I thought it might be--the Cardinals and us. We are still 5 games ahead in the loss column and that's a pretty good position to be in.

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    Does that count as a pick off by Willson? It must be.

  • Wow! What a series. Playoff baseball in September. Love the look in LaStella's eyes during that AB. Ice.

  • In reply to NoDoubtAboutIt:

    3 AM.

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    That was such a great at bat - La Stella has been brilliant this season

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    In reply to KiwiBob:

    TLS is dong TLS things. This is whyI wasn't advocating "getting rid of him" last August In fact, I was one of the loudest saying, "NO, this guy has things to contribute to the team." He can fill an important role on the team.

    If he was our every day starting 2B and 3rd best player we would be in trouble. But he can fill in at 2B and 3B when the match-ups (if Maddon decides to trade some defense in favor of getting on base) warrant it and can "roll out of bed at 3AM and just plain hit." He doesn't try to hit HR unless he gets a really juicy pitch. He stays within himself. And gets on base.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    Right? He gave a great post-game interview. Clearly Mil. wanted nothing to do with his bat.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    I will add this though. In the curerent MLB environment, TLS would start for A Lot of teams that don't have the luxury of the Cubs defense and versatility. Put him on a shifting team and I could see him slashing 280/370/500 at second.

  • If LaStella is your starting 2B, you are a bad team. I know Joel is one of his biggest supporters, and even he admits as much.

    LaStella had carved out a nice little niche for himself. He can give you a quality AB coming cold off the bench at a moment's notice. There is great value in that. But he can't do much else, and as long as everyone understands that, it's all good.

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    In reply to BarleyPop:

    As I said, "if he is the starting 2B AND 3RD BEST PLAYER ON THE TEAM (emphasis added) you are in trouble." As a starting 2B and the 6th best player it would be a much better team. His defensive deficiencies would become a problem, though. But I could see him scraping together 1.5-2.5 fWAR.

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    I think .500 SLG is ambitious. I could see .280/.350-.380/.425-.450 (given consistent playing time I could see him amassing doubles rather than homers).

  • The gauntlet has been thrown!
    Book it, If TLS ever gets a chance to play every day for some team, he will play passable D, hit over 20 HR's and slash what I stated.

    In this environment that's not a big leap.
    ya know, a lead off batter.....

  • I can see that slash line on an everyday basis, and do like your take that that's the slugging of a typical lead-off man. Something's juiced, and I'm not sure it's just the baseballs.

    We may soon find out about LaStella with another team. His bat is a blessing off the bench, but with the talent on this team, that's about his only use. Zobrist is getting older and will be filling more of a bench role. I just don't know how long we can keep him on the roster with that singular tool. I think he probably goes somewhere else and does get more playing time. Good for him.

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    In reply to BarleyPop:

    I wouldn't be opposed to trading TLS for a decent deal. A good reliever or something like that. But short of a good deal he is a valuable player on the team. He gives Maddon another LH bat off the bench and really isn't "blocking" anyone. The top minor league guys are Caratini and Zagunis. Zagunis is a RHB and a corner OF, not infielder. Not that the Cubs are short of infielders but they are not short of OF either. So, is Zagunis really an upgrade? As for Caratini his defense will likely decide his placement next year. If they feel he is ready to be the back-up C then he will be on the roster (in the space formerly held by Rene Rivera/Alex Avila or Miguel Montero). If they decide they are going with a veteran back-up or that Caratini needs more seasoning that decision will be made regardless of TLS existence.

    Again, I wouldn't mind a trade and I think TLS could be a starter on an OK team, maybe even a good team. But I am not going to give him away as if he isn't REALLY valuable to the Cubs.

  • If Dawson gets or has been let go in Miami does Theo call him for a special assistance job with the Cubs. The Cubs probably don't need another special assistance but from a nostalgic standpoint only I would like to see Dawson in the organization.

  • In reply to Rock:

    They can give him a blank contract and he can fill in his worth.

  • In reply to Stubbs:

    Well said, what a bargain the Cubs received back then.

  • In reply to Rock:

    If the story is true that Jeter wanted someone else to be the hatchet man all that shows me is the guy doesn't have any stones.....and has always had one of the best PR guys in the business covering for him.
    I already question his business instinct because he's already been fleeced by Loria.....

  • In reply to Wickdipper:

    Seems like he's getting the hatchet job.

  • StL is now is 2nd place. Thus the Magic Number for the Cubs to clinch the division is 5.

    StL is now alos the nearest to COL for the 2nd NL WC, still 1.5 games back.

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    In reply to CubsFanInNorway:

    THANK YOU for getting the Magic Number right. I have read a couple places that list it at 4 and forgetting that MIL is in 3rd place now.

  • That was not a strike when they called baez out with the bases loaded.Ball was inside off the plate it should of been 3-2,great ab by la stella he has a .475 ob % as a pinch hitter which is amazing.Thank goodness russell stayed with the play because edwards was looking shaky.Another thriller, the 1st two games of this series have been like watching postseason games

  • In reply to bolla:

    The ump was brutal all night. It appears the umps are wearing down too. Way too many bad home plate strikes zones these last two weeks.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    I can't stand when fans constantly complain about umps. Easy to second guess umps calls after the fact. That is the come back I get for questioning maddon so it is the same for an umpire. I thought lastella pitch was easily could have been called a strike. If the umping is so bad then why did MLB set record for Hr???

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    The home run issue? The ball HAS to be different.....has to be.....

    Scooter friggen Gennett with almost 30?

    How do umps have anything to do with the surge in homeruns?

  • In reply to Wickdipper:

    If they have a bad zone they would be taking the bat out of the players hands.

    Just get tired of ppl playing the ump card. It all balances out.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Nice Strawman argument. Constant complaints probably mean too many missed calls. Not sure how you equate umpiring and HR. Apples and oranges, my friend.

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    The umps haven't gotten worse this year compared to years in the past. Some people like u must believe that fox or wgn have the zone absolutely 100% correct. There is a reason MLB hasn't adopted it. You are gonna have borderline calls go either way. It won us the game last night. How many calls get over turned year? What percentage are upheld?

    If umps are calling more strikes the strikeouts would be at all time high? More strikeouts mean less at bats to hit Hr.

  • In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    Not trying to be confrontational here at all so don't take it like this but we've had 3 home plate umpires in the last 10 to 12 games that were just dawgshit awful.....and I've never seen it so bad. That guy Thursday night was.......I really can't describe how bad he was.....then there was the young one in the Lackey/Contreras game.
    Especially this time of the year umps GOTTA step it up as much as players do.....

  • In reply to rbrucato:

    It's been that way all season, only we haven't been paying as close attention. The games feel more critical now.

    ROBO-UMP: "Don't let perfect get in the way of better."

  • In reply to bolla:

    Actually it WAS a strike. The umpire failed to call several pitches in the bottom of the zone, but was significantly more accurate than the umpire the night before. The on screen box is tied to the CF angle, which is not true, but rather a few degrees off. Fangraphs explained this last season while comparing camera angles in all parks.
    Here is link to the scatter plot of pitches from last night. Pitch to Javy was just inside the black.

  • In reply to charactercounts:

    I believe that "pitch trax" uses 2 separate cameras space apart that track the ball. It is not the camera that is used for the telecast.

  • Great game for the pen again 6 innings 1 run I will take that.

  • What a interesting game. Nothing beats pennant race baseball. The intensity of every pitch is amazing. Tides are turning we are getting those breaks and calls that we didn't earlier. I think if Happ is called out call stands. Baez play was so close and the lastella walk was such a break. Lastella is getting treated like Joey votto. But this is what it takes to go on a nice run again.

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    In reply to WaitTilNextYear:

    I don't think it is "the Joey Votto" treatment. I think it is a MIL 'pen that is going on fumes. The last couple of games have taken a real toll on the team, I think. Losing 3 games in a row on the last AB by the opposing team can be hard. Losing 2 of them in which your best bullpen guys were throwing is even harder.

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