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Daily Minors Recap: Iowa offense explodes for 16; Jimenez, Paredes homer; De Los Rios strong in debut

Daily Minors Recap: Iowa offense explodes for 16; Jimenez, Paredes homer; De Los Rios strong in debut
Isaac Paredes

Outside of Tennessee, the offenses throughout the system came through in a big way Sunday, including a well-timed career day by Elliot Soto. Be sure to check out the article by Tom from this morning. The A and AA teams have concluded their 1st halves and will be taking 3 days off for the All-Star break.

On to the recaps...

AAA

Iowa 16, Omaha 3

Game Recap

John Andreoli

John Andreoli

A day after the Iowa offense exploded for 8 runs they decided to double it the next day. Every hitter in the lineup reached base. In fact everyone reached base at least twice (!) except Victor Caratini (go figure). Elliot Soto led the way with a career high 4 hits and tied his career best with 3 RBI. Unlike Saturday when the exploded for 8 runs in the first 3 innings then did not score again the rest of the night, they kept the pressure on Sunday. After scoring 4 in the 1st, they added 5 more in the 4th, and then home runs by Jeimer Candelario and John Andreoli helped them add 7 more over the final two innings.

The starting pitching also responded this weekend. Casey Kelly followed Aaron Brooks's standout performance (7 IP, 4 H, 1 R, BB, 6 K) with one of his own.

Top Performers

  • Honestly, everyone deserves to be here, but I will just highlight a couple
  • Elliot Soto: 4-5, 2B, 2 R, 3 RBI
  • Jeimer Candelario: 2-4, 2B, HR (8), 3 R, 2 RBI, 2 BB
  • John Andreoli: 2-4, 2B, HR (5), R, 4 RBI
  • Casey Kelly: 6 IP, 8 H, R, BB, 6 K (W, 4-1, 4.50 ERA)
  • Connor Mullee: 1.2 IP, 3 K

Injuries, Updates, and Trends

Bijan Rademacher

Bijan Rademacher

Mark Zagunis added to his league leading walk total (47) with three more on Sunday. He has been moved into the leadoff spot lately to jump start the struggling offense.

The other spark at the top of the order has been Jacob Hannemann.  He has picked up the pace offensively since his promotion, hitting .333/.353/.417 in 14 games, and has also brought much needed speed to the lineup (7 for 7 in stolen base attempts).

Another recent lineup change is the move of Bijan Rademacher into the cleanup spot. He has provided the offense with another patient hitter near the top of the order (12.9 BB%). Since late May he has also been one of the team's hottest hitters (.378/.462/.556 in 19 games). He scored twice and knocked in two on Sunday while also throwing a runner out at the plate.

AA

Chattanooga 10, Tennessee 2

Game Recap

Not much of note in this one. Preston Morrison (6 IP, 7 H, 6 R, BB, HBP, 4 K) was hit hard, giving up 6 runs on 5 extra base hits to drop to 0-6 on the year. The little offense the Smokies mustered came in the form of solo homers by Jason Vosler and Cael Brockmeyer.

dillon-maplesTop Performers

  • Jason Vosler: 1-3, HR (13), R, RBI, BB
  • Cael Brockmeyer: 1-3, HR (4), R, RBI, BB
  • Kevin Cornelius: 2-3
  • Dillon Maples: IP, BB, 2 K

Injuries, Updates, and Trends

Dillon Maples has continued to his breakout season. The key seems to be that he has finally harnessed enough command to miss bats consistently. The trend of extreme ground ball rates from throughout his career has continued, but this K rates have sky rocketed this year. He had never averaged striking out a batter per inning previously, but now in 2017 he has punched out 52 in 35.1 innings.

Another positive emergence this season has been the power spike from Jason Vosler. Already having established a career high, he now has 3 homers in his past 4 games. His previous career high in slugging was .374 back in 2015. He is at .521 in 2017.

Advanced A

Myrtle Beach 8, Down East 3

Game Recap

Eloy Jimenez

Eloy Jimenez

The Pelicans closed out the 1st half of the year with their 15th win in the past 17 games. Dakota Mekkes and his bullpen mates threw six innings of one run ball in support of swing man Casey Bloomquist who started and threw three innings. Eloy Jimenez drove in the game winners on a two run blast as part of a 4 run 4th.

Top Performers

  • Jesse Hodges: 2-4, 2B, HR (6), 2 R, RBI
  • Eloy Jimenez: 1-4, HR (7), R, 2 RBI
  • Tyler Alamo: 2-3, 2B, 2 R
  • Bryant Flete: 2-5, R, RBI
  • Dakota Mekkes: 2 IP, BB, 2 K (W, 1-0, 0.00 ERA)
  • James Norwood: 2 IP, H, K

Injuries, Updates, and Trends

Daniel Spingola (.285/.368/.434) busted out of an 0 for 19 slump with a pair of hits. The outfielder doesn't possess much over-the-fence power but has plenty of gap power. He is a good athlete with a decent eye at the plate.

James Norwood

James Norwood

A double and a homer by Jesse Hodges raised his line to .273/.350/.450. The 23 year old Canadian has improved his eye at the plate this season and it has led to not only a better walk rate but more consistent power.

The bullpen ERA shot up to 0.42 since June 5th by surrendering just its second run in its last 42.2 IP. Dakota Mekkes improved to 4-0 with a 0.50 ERA overall between South Bend and Myrtle Beach. He has allowed just two earned runs all season, and none since May 10th (18.2 inning scoreless streak). James Norwood extended his scoreless streak to 9 innings over 6 appearances. The hard throwing righty is 1-0 with a 1.64 ERA and 23 Ks in 22 IP this year.

A

South Bend 9, Lake County 3

Game Recap

It was nice to see the young Cubs team respond after a tough extra inning loss on Saturday. 18 year old Isaac Paredes set the tone with a 2 run shot in the 1st. South Bend would get two more runs in the 2nd, 4th (on a Vimael Machin homer) and again in the 5th before capping it all off with a single run in the 6th. Bryan Hudson also rebounded from a really tough outing in his last start. After lasting just 3.1 innings on June 12th he struck out 5 and induced 10 ground ball outs over 6 innings Sunday. He gave up just a single fly ball in securing his first win on the year.Hudson behind 2

Top Performers

  • Bryan Hudson: 6 IP, 6 H, R, BB, 5 K (W, 1-2, 4.19 ERA) 10-1 GO-FO
  • Isaac Paredes: 2-4, 2B, HR (4), R, 3 RBI
  • Vimael Machin: 1-5, HR (5), R, 3 RBI
  • Luis Ayala: 1-3, R, RBI, BB, 2 SB (10, 11)
  • Zack Short: 1-3, 2B, BB
  • Michael Cruz: 1-3, R, BB

Injuries, Updates, and Trends

Already possessing a pretty physically mature body, I'm not sure we will see much more weight added to Isaac Paredes's frame, but that is not to say that his strength will not continue to improve. He already has impressive pull power from his right hand stroke. The swing is geared towards line drives so I wouldn't expect huge home run totals moving forward, but 12-15 is not out of the realm of possibility, along with significant extra base hits. He finished the 1st half at .262/.341/.389. He did get into 3 games for South Bend last season, but the Mexico native is essentially making the jump straight from the Arizona Rookie League this season.

A-

Eugene 6, Vancouver 2

Enrique De Los Rios

Enrique De Los Rios

Game Recap

After dropping the first two games to Vancouver, Eugene has won the past two in the series. Led by impressive pitching by Enrique De Los Rios, Mark Malave and Luis Aquino the Emeralds never trailed. Gustavo Polanco and Jhonny Bethencourt continued their hot streaks to begin the season. Polanco hit his first homer and Bethencourt collected 3 hits. Rafael Narea, Joe Martarano and Zach Davis also contributed a pair of hits and drove in at least one run each.

Top Performers

  • Enrique De Los Rios: 5 IP, 3 H, R, BB, 5 K (W, 1-0)
  • Luis Aquino: 3 IP, BB, 4 K (S, 1)
  • Gustavo Polanco: 2-3, HR (1), R, 2 RBI, HBP
  • Jhonny Bethencourt: 3-4, 2B, R, SB (3)
  • Rafael Narea: 2-3, 2B, 2 R, RBI, BB
  • Zach Davis: 2-4, 2B, 2 RBI
  • Joe Martarano: 2-4, RBI

    Gustavo Polanco

    Gustavo Polanco

Injuries, Updates, and Trends

It was good to see Enrique De Los Rios only walk a single batter. He walked just under 1 per inning last year with Eugene out of the bullpen. As he transitions into a starter this year, improved control will be key for the 6'1" Venezuelan. He can bring the heat in the mid 90s and compliments it with an above average curve so there is talent to work with if he can harness it.

Gustavo Polanco has 7 hits, 4 of which have gone for extra bases, through 4 games.

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  • Would Mark Zagunis be a realistic option for lead off at the major league level? It would be hard to find him a place to play but we could really use that OBP at the top of our order.

  • In reply to Ozzie24:

    I have always compared Zagunis to David DeJesus as a hitter.

  • In reply to Tom U:

    Yeah, that is a decent comp as a hitter. DeJesus had the distinct advantage of being a really good defensive corner outfielder and being able to handle CF as well. Being lefty didn't hurt either. Zagunis is an average corner OF, can't play CF and is righthanded.

    Perfect world he could platoon with Schwarber or Heyward. But that is basically the role Zobrist already fills (and what Happ figures to do down the line) while also being able to play other spots. I just don't see a spot for Zagunis opening up any time soon. I think ultimately he gets his shot in the majors with another org. His plate discipline should absolutely be able to play in the majors. I wouldn't be surprised if he is part of a deal at the deadline.

    The only way I see Zagunis finding a role long term is if Happ is included in a deal for pitching. Then Zagunis could find the 4th OF job available once Zo moves on. But even then, Jimenez would be lurking and could even be ready to supplant him at that point.

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    In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I have liked Zagunis since he came on board with the Cubs. But I also have a hard time seeing a good route to the majors for him. Not particularly versatile on defense, bats RH, decent but not great power.

    Like you I see him traded. Likely not a "centerpiece" but a valuable one none-the-less. He certainly has a valuable skillset. Just one that the Cubs are relatively stocked in. In some ways his situation--not style of play/skillset--reminds me of Vogelbach last year.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I saw on TV last night before the game that Dejesus had a career .358 OBP leading off. I would take that all day out of a lead off hitter.

    I was thinking of Zagunis being a short term fix at lead off for parts of this year but even that would be hard to get him playing time.

  • Thanks for the plug Michael!

  • I have this gut feeling that Jacob Hannemann and Albert Almora are going to be going to the Giants in exchange for Cueto. The Giants have the worst outfield defense in the league, and need to get younger in the OF as well. Cueto's opt-out makes things tricky, though.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    That would make the Cubs OF defense pretty bad. Almora has a spot on this team. I just don't like Happ in CF on a regular basis, especially with Schwarber in LF. I honestly just wish that Maddon would try starting Almora in CF 5-6 days a week and see how it plays out.

    At the very worst Almora should be getting used like Javy was last year in the IF. Let him start multiple games a week and then bring him in during the middle innings with a lead in the rest of the games. He would essentially be a right hand hitting CF/4th OF. The issue has been the Cubs have not built many early leads this year. The pitching has put them in early holes and the offense hasn't jumped out to fast starts.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    I could see the Giants being interested in the Cubs stash of upper level hitters that are currently blocked: Candelario, Zagunis, Caratini, Burks.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I would not mind trading Candelario, Zagunis and Burks but would be hesitant to part with a switch hitting catcher who is batting in the .340 range. Montero is probably gone next year and I don't want to have Schwarber catch too much. I don't think Caratini is blocked next year.

  • In reply to John57:

    If Montero does not return I think the Cubs will look to fill the hole with a different veteran. I just don't see them going with two inexperienced catchers next year. Especially with the turnover expected in the pitching staff.

    And not to take anything away from Caratini because he is a good hitter, but never take PCL numbers at face value. There are 20 guys hitting .315 or above in the league. His BABIP is .390 and it is pretty easy to hit for power in many of the stadiums.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I agree, it is much easier to bat in the PCL than in the majors. But Caratini is a solid switch hitter that I would like to keep.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I wouldn't think of Contreras being inexperienced next year after catching some last year and all year this year. If you are thrown into the fire and catch in the World series, I think you have plenty of experience. Now, saying two young catchers and I might agree with you.

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    In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I like Caratini but I wouldn't mind seeing him stay at AAA for another year and work on his defense. It can't hurt. Like you I believe the Cubs will sign another veteran catcher. While Contreras will have a couple hundred games worth of experience unless the Cubs decide he is ready to take that next step I can see them signing a guy to a 1 year deal for $3-6M. It seems like every year there are guys willing to sign for that as a catcher 34-37 years of age. For all we know it might be Montero.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    I'd have no issue with that.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    I'd be more interested in Shark than Cueto. We know Shark's contract commitments and is a similar age (with a lot less miles) and is a more sure bet health-wise. If Cueto pitches well you are sure to lose him and if he continues to struggle you are stuck with him.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I would also be interested in Ty Blach. He has killed lefties and could be a Mike Montgomery-type late developer.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    The Cueto contract makes things complicated, no doubt. Although I hope the Cubs get someone long term, like Archer or even Shark, I just have a feeling it is going to be a rental. And although I don't necessarily disagree with what you say above, the fact that Happ is playing defense, and Jay is available, makes me think that Almora could be expendable. Almora is also a good fit for for the Giants. They are a team that prioritizes defense, and when you play in a division with three pitchers parks (LA, SF, SD), and the enormous Colorado outfield, you can see why outfield defense is so important.

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    In reply to Cubswin09:

    How important is it to them if their OF defense is, by your assessment, pretty bad?

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    They just got old.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    Cubs can't keep paying premium prices for rentals. Torres and Soler have paid for one and a half seasons of closers. That is not a sustainable practice or the type of return on investment that you want to keep getting. As good as the Cubs system still is, and it does have good depth, it is not infinite. At some point the team has to bite the bullet and make a big deal for guys with cost control or start turning jobs over to their own young pitchers.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    We prioritize defense as well and so I definitely do not see Almora being traded.

    I agree with Michael's view of Schwarber and Happ in LF and CF. I also don't like Happ at 2B defensively either. That's why I think it really boils down to either Schwarber or Happ getting traded. We can only afford to keep one them as the primary Left Fielder.

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    In reply to Cubswin09:

    Would love to see Shark as Lackey 2.0 for the next few years. An innings eater who can stabilize the bottom of the rotation. That said, if they get Shark, I still think they need another starter.

  • I wonder what it would take to get Jason Vargas and Lorenzo Cain from KC. Both are older and on contract years so ideally the Cubs would still add a separate SP with more control, but they're both nice players and would fill a need. I don't imagine the required package would be too ludicrous.

    Maybe they go crazy and get Vargas, Cain, and Danny Duffy!

  • Jeff Passan says that he thinks the Cubs are going hard after Chris Archer and that the teams have discussed him in the past and the Rays might bite but would insist on Eloy to top the package. With 4.5 years of control where Archer never makes as much a $9 mil AAV don't you have to consider that? I wonder if Eloy, Candelario, Adbert Alzolay and another prospect gets that done. If so I do it yesterday.

  • In reply to TC154:

    I can't imagine an Archer deal that doesn't involve Jiminez. I haven't followed the minor league Cubs very closely since the core came up to the bigs, but that package you mentioned feels like giving up so much.
    That said, I fully expect Archer to get at least what Sale got (and he should).
    I'd hope that Jiminez, Candelario, and a throw-in would be enough. I'm probably over-valuing Candelario though.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    Sale went for the #1 and #18 (now #11) prospects in the game, a highly regarded, but unranked RHP and a bit of a throw in on top. Archer isn't as good as Sale but he has more years of control so you figure the package will be similar if not quite as high. Either way I think 2 pitchers would have to go and one of them being Alzolay or Cease. I love the potential of Eloy but part of this plan was to stockpile bats to acquire pitching and that hasn't happened yet. Getting Archer now allows them to sign a lesser tier pitcher the likes of Estrada or Cobb in the offseason and not wade into the $150 mil plus club with Darvish or Cueto. Again I make the deal.

  • In reply to TC154:

    I wouldn't be upset if they made that deal. I agree, they're going to have to find top-tier pitching somewhere and I don't think this year's FA class is the best place to look. More than one $100M deal for a 30+ year old SP is too much for 1 roster. Archer is the best option of the obvious guys available.

    It would sting very much to give up Jiminez, but they're going to have to give up value to acquire value. If it's not Jiminez, it will be someone from the big league team.

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    In reply to Kramerica20:

    I like Jiminez, but not as much as many on here. I wouldn't want to trade him for a "rental" but someone with controllable years at a very reasonable rate as well as a solid history of success I would have to jump at it. I wouldn't be surprised if they demanded Happ--or maybe Hanneman--in the deal as well. Someone a little more "ready" for MLB time (along with Candelario). I wouldn't be thrilled about it but I could live with it.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    I could part with Happ or Jiminez, but both in the same deal would be rough.

  • In reply to TC154:

    Also, I didn't realize Kopech was ranked that high. Wow

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    A starter that can consistently throw 98-100 MPH. That is a rare, rare thing.

  • In reply to TC154:

    If you can get Archer with that deal, really any deal that doesn't touch the Major League team, that seems like a no brainer to me.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    I don't think you are over-valuing Candelario. He can be a full-time 3B in the bigs now, with the very real possibility of a couple All-Star-worthy seasons in his career. He couldn't headline a deal for an Archer-type pitcher, but is a valuable secondary piece. Jimenez and Candelario would come close to getting that deal done.

    I'm just happy to hear a big Rays/Cubs rumor that doesn't mention Javy. The Rays covet Javy, and he has been the sticking point in many previous negotiations. The draft is over, let the trade rumors begin!

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Not sure what value Candelario holds for TB since they have Longoria.

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    In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Just spit-balling here but Longoria is owed $86-94M over the next 5-6 years ending at age 36-37. While I don't think Candelario is as good as Longoria he is young, controllable and considered a solid prospect.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Agreed, I wasn't saying he's a perfect fit in Tampa, just that he's a valuable secondary piece in such a deal. He actually could be a fit in Tampa, though. Logan Morrison is having a career year heading into free-agency, and Longoria is expensive by Rays' standards. If they could move him to get younger and cheaper, they will.

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    In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I agree, I guess it depends if they want to rebuild or retool. They seemed to do a lot of retooling when Joe was there, but maybe it's time for a rebuild. If they do a rebuild, then I could see them trying to trade Longoria and get out from under that contract. It would sting as he is the face of the franchise, and they really don't have that next young "star" in the waiting. D

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    Agreed about Javy. Even if this is all he'll ever be offensively (I'd be shocked if he doesn't improve), his defense is soooo nice to have. I'd hate to lose him.

  • In reply to Kramerica20:

    Regardless of the off the field stuff recently with Russell, his continued lack of progress at the plate has firmly put Javy off the table in any deal (not that I ever believed he was available to begin with). The Cubs have no SS in the system besides 18 year olds Parades (who is average at best at SS) and Ademan (who was playing DSL last year). Javy is essentially untouchable at this point.

  • In reply to BarleyPop:

    I don't see Candy as a full time 3b in the majors now.

  • In reply to WaitUntilNextYear:

    I do, but I guess that could depend on which organization. A contender? Maybe not. A rebuilding team? Certainly. He has the footwork, arm, and hands to stick at 3B. He has the emerging switch-hitting bat to play either corner IF spot. He's been tried in the corner OF spots to increase his versatility, but I don't think he has the wheels to do so. It doesn't matter. I think he is a MLB third-baseman, but is obviously blocked here in Chicago.

  • In reply to TC154:

    I'd imagine an Archer deal would require Jimenez and one of Cease/De La Cruz. Then a lesser third piece, maybe one of the AAA guys (Candelario/Caratini/Zagunis) that TB could plug in right away.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Is TB really going to trade their ace when they are in the thick of the playoff hunt? I think you would have to blow them away with a deal.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Well of course that's the problem. They could legitimately see themselves as a Wild Card team and that's not a stretch unless you believe in the Twins, Orioles or Rangers.

  • Gleyber Torres to have Tommy John surgery.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Ugh. That sucks. Kid was developing so nicely. Feel bad for him.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Man. Here's my other wild prediction: he never plays for the Yankees. Instead, he's part of a package this offseason for MadBum.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    They may want to move Castro to 3B at some point. Then they could play Torres at 2B, which would have the added benefit of protecting his arm.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I'm just pulling it out of my you know what. But I feel like the Yankees's window will be opening wide up, the Giants has closed. If you're the Yankees, add Bum to front the rotation and the team is a clear World Series favorite. And they have the farm system to get it done. And Brian Sabean has Yankee connections.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    Oh, definitely. If the Giants are finally ready to rebuild they could get a MASSIVE haul for MadBum and the Yankees would be ready, willing and able to make a move for him. Torres would make sense as a centerpiece in such a trade. MadBum would require a top 5 prospect like him in any deal.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    They may not want Torres as the center piece of the trade if he needs TJS.

  • In reply to John57:

    Recovery for position players is different. Even if he ends up losing a couple of MPHs off his "fastball" he can still play 2B. Torres is expected to be ready by start of next year.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    And never mind, I guess it was his non-throwing arm anyway.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I believe he injured his non-throwing arm sliding into home plate. Yankess probably not too concerned about protecting his arm. Too bad for Torres. Hope he recovers without any set-backs.

  • In reply to Michael Ernst:

    I think Torres was also playing third and would/could replace Headley for the Yanks.

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    In reply to Michael Ernst:

    Its Torres left arm that needs the surgery. Unless you mean protect as in "hide" his arm at 2nd base.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    That is a very wild prediction. No way the Giants trade Bumgarner. He is on a very friendly team contract. for a few more years.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Well, the Giants are bad at baseball, as evidence by the fact that they have the second worst record in the league. They can't hit, pitch, or field. On top of that, they have a farm system in the bottom third of the league, and not a single elite prospect. They are over the luxury tax, and have the fourth highest payroll in the league. And they don't really have any good trade chips. The guys teams might want (e.g., Shark, Cueto, Melanin, Belt, Crawford) are all on the wrong side of thirty, are paid handsomely, or some with opt-out clauses or other issues. Bumgarner is young, an elite talent, and comes with a very reasonable contract. Trading him is the quickest way to rebuild the farm. I guess they could keep him to front a really bad team for three years, and then pay him $300m or watch him walk.

  • In reply to Cubswin09:

    You've been saying this about SF since the beginning of the season and you're absolutely right even if I didn't see it coming. My bias, and this will come a shocker, is that if you have starting pitching you can always compete but my theory has been knocked around a bit the last couple of years and no doubt SF looks like they need a rebuild. That said does it look to you like they actually will? I've heard some conflicting thoughts on that.

  • In reply to TC154:

    Will they actually do it, trade Bumgarner? I don't know. I think it needs to be considered. They are on a pace to lose 100 games. They can't just wave a magic wand, clear off huge contracts, get younger. Maybe people think they are just having a bad year, and they can keep the same team next season and suddenly be better than the Dodgers, Dbacks, and Rockies.

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    In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    It really comes down to how competitive do the Giants see themselves in the next 2 years (when Bumgarner's contract runs out). If they think this is an aberration and they will return to their "even yera magic" then you absolutely keep him. If you look at the team and say, as Cubswin09 point out, "We are bad at baseball. We are aging and don't have much in the farm system," then you absolutely trade Bumgarner. If you don't see yourself contending before 2020 then what point is there in keeping him? It is why good players get traded every year. It is a very fast way to rebuild a farm system.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    All good points guys. I guess you never say never especially in baseball. If Bumgarner can be had the Cubs should be looking into that also. With that said I could see a statue at 24 Willie Mays Way that has MadBum pitching to Posey one day.

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    In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    I wouldn't be surprised if they are already planning the statues after 3 WS in 5 years. Trading MadBum at this point won't end that. Remember, Mays retired as a "Met."

    I am sure the Cubs--and everyone else--is looking into acquiring MadBum. I don't know if the Cubs can match the Yankees offer, though.

  • In reply to 2016 Cubs:

    Yankees?! Heck with the Yankees. If SF is gonna trade Bumgarner, Theo should back up the minor league truck and do whatever it takes to make him a Cub.

    But there is no way they're trading Bum. Period. They'll figure out another way to open that window.

  • I buried this in a reply comment above, but the more I think about it, the more I believe that one of either Schwarber or Happ will be traded, if not at the deadline, then over the winter. They both lack defensive prowess. Unless the DH comes to the NL (please, no!), we defensively cannot afford to play both longterm. I believe this FO values run prevention as much as I do.

  • In reply to TTP:

    Just don't agree with your concern with Happ in CF. Can't think of a play he hasn't made that Almora could. Tho I love Almora, Happ has been a pleasant surprise in CF and could remain there long term. I'm actually more concerned with his one handed swing as it is something that needs to be fixed. If so he would be awsome.

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    I think that Happ might be the replacement to Schwarber. He's hit as many HR as Kyle did the start of their career, he's much more flexible as far as positions played and more athletic. He does have a little hit or miss--he doesn't get many singles.
    How much does the FO want pitchers? Schwarbs is still very young and could very well adjust to ML pitching and start getting his OBP back and hit 30+ HRs too.

  • In reply to Jonathan Friedman:

    That's the conundrum with Schwarber. I've said as recently as last year I wouldn't trade him for Sale straight up. His left-handed bat is too enticing. But at the same time, he has deficiencies. When I think with my head rather than my heart, I can see Schwarber more valuable in trade than our long-term left-fielder.

    I was very critical of Soler, especially during the "who do we trade, Soler or Baez?" phase, but Schwarber has many of the same negatives. I like a complete ballplayer, and neither one is that. The biggest reason I prefer Schwarber over Soler, though, is their baseball character. Schwarber's drive and work ethic during his rehabilitation is the stuff of legend, with bloody hands and teammates in awe. Soler was frequently disciplined for not being "game-ready", which is team-speak for not having drive.

    In a perfect Cubs world, as much as I admire Schwarber, I can see a more complete player in LF long-term.

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    In reply to BarleyPop:

    I said it then, and I really wish they pulled the trigger in trade the Schwarbenator for Chris Sale. I don't think the Sox would have done the deal anyway.

    I agree 100% w you on the Soler comp. I have to believe if he worked as hard as he could, with his talent he would be producing in the show as long as he was healthy.

    We need pitching pitching pitching

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