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Daily Cubs Minors Recap: Schwarber HRs; Zastryzny, Martinez, Santana have strong outings. Red Sox sign Castillo

Daily Cubs Minors Recap: Schwarber HRs; Zastryzny, Martinez, Santana have strong outings. Red Sox sign Castillo

First off congrats to Chicago's  Jackie Robinson West for their victory last night.  They have reached the U.S. title game of the Little League World Series.  They have a tough challenge ahead in juggernaut Nevada, who has blown through the field, so they're going to have to pull off an upset of Hoosiers-like proportions.  I wouldn't put anything past these kids right now.

In what should not be a surprise to anyone, the Red Sox signed Rusney Castillo.  They had the biggest positional need, the need for immediate impact, the big market money, and it helped that they had Yoenis Cespedes on the roster.  The price was even more exorbitant than even the highest rumors suggested...$72M over 6 years.  The deal is back-loaded and structured to look like 7 years for luxury tax purposes.  I think we see a hidden strength of a good farm system here in that the Cubs didn't have to overbid for Castillo knowing they have up and coming hitters that are either in the bigs or just a level or two away.  I'd much rather see that $72M go toward pitching.

As for the minors, it's not an exciting day if you're looking for big days from the big 4, but the system is pretty deep so there are plenty of guys to follow.  The regular season is coming to a close.  We should expect to see Kane County in the playoffs while the Tennessee Smokies (3 games) and Daytona Cubs (2 games) hang on to late season leads.  Boise looks like they're on the outside in as is the team most Cubs fans care about heading into September -- the Iowa Cubs.  Iowa's late season slide has dropped them into 3rd place, 3 games out

Sorry for the late recap.  Juggling a lot of things right now... things will get back to normal now.

Reno 7 - Iowa 2

  • It was a solid start for Dan Straily but poor offensive support dropped him to 7-7 despite allowing just 2 runs on 4 hits and 1 walk in 6 innings.  Straily did lower his ERA to an even 4.00 and has pitched very well since being acquired by the Cubs.  In 8 minor league starts, Straily has an even 3.00 ERA with a walk rate of 2.9 Ks/9 IP while striking out 8.6/9 IP.
  • Armando Rivero had a rare bad performance in that he allowed a 2-run HR in his one inning of work,  On the bright side he didn't walk anyone.
  • Junior Lake hit a HR but it was his only hit in 5 ABs as he tries to get back into a rhythm.  He has hit .316 since his demotion.  It's hard to envision a role for Lake on the Cubs in 2015 given that he does not fare well on the bench.  He needs to play everyday but the big club may not have that available for him.
  • The I-Cubs relied on infielders Jonathan Mota and Elliot Soto for offense.  Each had two hits with Soto driving in one of the runs.

Montgomery 8 - Tennessee 4

  • Ivan Pineyro has hit a wall in AA in an injury shortened season.  He hasn't pitched particularly well and with his somewhat fringy stuff, particularly his breaking ball,  it is something of a concern.  AA can be a big step up for prospects and it's difficult to know how much is due to injuries and how much is due to the step up in competition.  Pineyro fell to 0-3 with a 5.44 ERA after a 2.1 inning stint in which he gave up 7 runs.  His usually good control has deserted him this year.  He has walked 4.6 batters per 9 IP and he doesn't have the stuff to get away with that.
  • The Smokies got scoreless relief innings from hard-throwing Tony Zych (2.2 IP) and Zach Cates (2 IP, 1 BB, 1 K).  Both pitchers can pitch in the 96 mph range but neither has been that effective at AA this year.  Like Pineyro, their weak spot is their breaking pitch, though Cates has a solid change.
  • The Smokies got a combined 0 for 10 from Albert Almora and Addison Russell, so the offense had to come from elsewhere.  Minor league veterans Lars Anderson and Charles Cutler each had 2 hits and scored a run.
  • Stephen Bruno picked up some of the slack, going 2 for 3 with 2 RBI and a run scored.  Bruno has slowed down in his first full season as a pro but has steadied the ship again of late.  He has hit in 9 of his last 10 games, hitting .333 in that span and has a line of .277/.346/.398 on the year.

Daytona 5 - Clearwater 4

  • Rob Zastryzny resurgence continued with a solid 7 inning effort in which he allowed one unearned run.  He did not walk a batter and struck out 5.  He improved his record to 4-6 and his ERA to 4.54.  Those numbers are deceiving, however, when you look at his 8.66 Ks per 9 IP, 2.74 BBs per 9 IP, and his 3.54 FIP.  I have heard reports of Zastryzny's fastball being anywhere from 89-93 mph this season.
  • Zach Godley picked up his 5th save with a one out appearance.  His ERA is beginning to look more respectable as well at 3.75.  Godley projects as a 7th inning type reliever in the majors -- quite a bonus considering he was signed as an underslot.  He has shown better stuff in relief with a fastball in the 92-94 range and a high 80s cutter or slider.
  • Jacob Hannemann has been solid at Daytona.  He went 2 for 3 with a HR, walk, and 2 RBI.  He is hitting .267/.325/.390 at Daytona with 2 HRs.  He has shown some speed and a  little power, especially since the FSL and MWL aren't conducive to big HR numbers.  He has 36 steals and 8 HRs overall this year.  I like him as a fall league candidate to speed up his development and get him to AA next year.
  • Remember when we thought maybe Kyle Schwarber was wearing down after a long season?  That doesn't appear to be the case anymore.  He went 1 for 2 with 2 walk and hit his 5th HR at Daytona, improving his numbers to .281/.400/.479.  He also stole his 3rd base.  Overall this season he has hit .339/.437/.603 with 13 HRs and a 1.040 OPS.  I'm beginning to think he can just go to AA next year, but that may depend on his defense.  I also think I'd rather see him work on his defense than go to the Fall League next year.  He is going to hit there and probably won't get the needed work to get him ready to play on a defensive level.  Get him with Mike Borzello this offseason and mix in some OF instruction.  Beginning to like the idea of an Evan Gattis role for him.
  • Few players have been as consistent as Bill McKinney has been since joining the Cubs org.  He went 1 for 3 with a triple, walk, and an RBI.
  • Bijan Rademacher hit his 8th HR of the season and is hitting .271/.362/.427 overall.

Kane County 7 - Clinton 3

  • Jonathan Martinez looks like a pretty good pickup so far.  The RHP with the good change, feel for pitching and a fastball in the 90-94 range had a brilliant 5 inning performance.  He did not walk a batter and struck out 7 while allowing just 3 hits.  He's 10-5, earning a win despite a rare shaky bullpen performance, and improved his ERA to 2.50.  His walk rate is a cartoonishly low 1.4% (or 0.5 batters per 9 IP) .  He has struck out 5.5 batters per 9 IP thought that may improve if he can refine his breaking pitch.
  • Mark Zagunis is looking like a nice top of the order presence.  He went 1 for 3 with a double and walk to go with his 3rd SB.  He is hitting .250 at Kane though he has a .500 OBP because of his 7 walks in 6 games.
  • Jeimer Candelario went 2 for 4 with a walk and 2 RBI.  He is hitting .240 at Kane.
  • Jacob Rogers went 4 for 5, all singles with a run scored and an RBI,  He is hitting .269/.360/.446 with 15 HRs.
  • Chesny Young, hitting .338, went 1 for 4 with a double and 2 RBI.

Boise 7 - Vancouver 5 (13 innings)

  • The Dillon Maples struggles continued with 5 walks in 2.1 innings as he gave up all 5 runs allowed by Boise on this day.  I know that Maples had similar issues last year and the Cubs simplified his repertoire and approach and he pitched well.  I wonder if the Cubs tried to reintroduce some of the concepts he struggled with the previous season or if he has some rust from missing most of the season.  Maples has a great arm and good athleticism but injuries and an ironically non-athletic delivery has stunted his growth as a pitcher.
  • The Hawks got outstanding relief -- 10.2 scoreless innings in all -- beginning with 9th round pick James Farris.  Farris went 2.2 innings, walking one and struck out 3.  Farris has put up a 2.45 ERA in relief at Boise.
  • LHP Tommy Thorpe was a well-regarded finesse pitcher type prospect going into the draft last year, but an offseason dropped him to the Cubs in round 8.  He could turn out in that Chris Rusin/Eric Jokisch mold, which would give the Cubs nice value in the 8th round.  Like those pitchers, Thorpe has a high 80s FB and a good change with a good feel for how to change speeds and location.  At the short-season level, that can be enough for a pitcher to dominate, and that is pretty much what Thorpe has done.
  • Daniel Lewis is a great story but he is also having real success as a relief pitcher at Boise.  It will be interesting to see how he adapts at more age appropriate levels but the results are encouraging so far.  Lewis isn't doing it with smoke and mirrors.  He is missing bats.  His command still needs to improve, which is unsurprising for any young pitcher and especially for one who has had as much time off as he has but so far he looks good in a very small sample size.  He struck out 4 and walked one in his 2 innings of work, lowering his ERA to an even 1.00 with 5 walks and 12 Ks in 9 innings.
  • Corbin Hoffner pitched the final 3 innings to pick up the win.  He is 1-1 with a 1.69 at Boise.

AZL Cubs 6 - AZL D'Backs 0

  • Alex Santana isn't a guy I know a lot about other than he has put up good numbers in the DSL.  He pitched 6 scoreless innings without walking a batter and striking out 4.  The 20 year old RHP is 3-1 with a 2.58 ERA.  He has an average build at 6'1", 170 lbs but has shown good control throughout his young pro career.  He has walked 2.8 batters per 9 IP and is beginning to show an increased ability to miss bats (7.8 Ks per 9 IP).  Someone worth keeping an eye on and if I can dig up some info on him I will share it next time he pitches.
  • Brian Schlitter is on rehab and preserved the rain-shortened shutout wth a scoreless inning.
  • Gleyber Torres doubled and scored a pair of runs.  Torres is hitting .273/.365/.373 on the year.
  • Signed for a slightly overslot bonus in the 11th round, Kevonte Mitchell is looking like a good investment so far.  The tall, athletic CF'er went 1 for 3 with 1 walk and 2 runs scored.  Mitchell shows raw power in batting practice but he has been more of an on-base guy in games so far, hitting .297/.383/.332 with 15 steals in 16 tries.  If that power ever shows up in games, the Cubs might have themselves a real sleeper.
  • Rubi Silva is on rehab and went 2 for 3 with a walk.
  • Eloy Jimenez did not get a hit but drove in 2 runs, one of them with a sac fly.  Jimenez is hitting .240 and has flashed occasional plate discipline and occasional power (3 HRs, 10 extra base hits).  A work in progress but I think I'm pretty happy with what he has done so far.
  • Albert Mineo has cooled off from his torrid start, hitting .262 now, but he did go 1 for 3 with a walk and 2 RBI.
  • SS-2B Ho-Young Son went 2 for 3 with a double and a run scored.  Another great scouting find, Son is hitting .321/.377/.393 -- especially impressive because Son is known more for his speed and his glove.  Questions about his bat and makeup caused him to slip through the IFA period and the Cubs pounced on the opportunity to sign him at good value.  Definitely someone I will keep a close eye on.

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    I wonder if they plan to work Kevonte out in the infield as well or do they consider him an outfielder going forward?

    Also, Zagunis draws so many walks...love his eye at the plate. Hoping they can work him more next season at catcher and just see what he can do. Could we be looking at a leadoff-hitting catcher in the future? Not too many comps for this guy other than a Jason Kendall type maybe?

  • In reply to Chris Lattier:

    Jason Kendall is probably the hope with him.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Kendall pre ankle injury? He was my favorite catcher before he landed wrong at first base and broke his ankle.

  • In reply to KC Cubs Fan:

    I remember that, Kendall was never the same....nasty injury

  • In reply to Chris Lattier:

    John Wathan.

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    Really nice to hear that both Junior Lake and Mike Olt seem to be hitting a little bit down at Iowa. In my eyes both are blocked from being everyday players and make them prime candidates for trades that may develop. This winter is going to be a lot of fun for us Cubs fans....

  • In reply to bocabobby:

    I think you're right.

  • Great recap as usual. I stumbled onto your site this year and it has become daily reading for me.

  • In reply to Chris P:

    Isn't it, though! This (John's) write up and the respondents' above and below are the main reasons for The Den to be required reading for any Cub fan to really become a true follower. Even when I blow through (sorry John) the write up (I have SO many index cards keeping up with all of the names!) the commenter's from up and down bring me around and right back to what I should have read closer in the first place. BEST SITE EVER!

  • Boise would make the playoffs if the season ended right now. So that's another minor league playoff team!

  • In reply to Jimmie Ward:

    No they wouldn't. They are behind in the second half by more than a game and in the first half they lost the tie breaker.

  • In reply to Cubs Future:

    If the first half champ wins the second half, as they are currently in position to do, it goes to overall record. They have the 2nd best overall record right now.

    They're currently in the playoffs.

  • I'm not sure the Cubs failing to outbid the Red Sox reflects the team's strong farm system. The Cubs have their understanding of value for the international players, and have bid on most of the major players from Cespedes to Puig to Darvish. But they've consistently have not gone way overboard with their bids with the exception of Tanaka. Some of these bids came early in Theo/Jed's time when the farm system was less stocked, and some came later. But what has been consistent has been has been their slightly more conservative bidding style. I can't say it's the right approach or the wrong approach, but it has been consistent.

  • John,

    What do you think the FO plan for Torres & Jimenez will be for next year? Given the fact that they are both so young do you think they might repeat AZL or do you think they will go to Boise or even KC?

  • In reply to Hoosier Gus:

    Not John, but in my opinion I would like to see them repeat AZL. They can work on more of their weaknesses in extended spring training and then if they show good improvements in the AZL then promote them to Boise.

  • In reply to JLynch2247:

    You might be right...they are 17 years old and in a foreign country. They would probably benefit from staying in the same environment and staying together. Brings up an interesting question, how much of their "development" is baseball and how much of it is just growing up and learning English?

  • In reply to Hoosier Gus:

    I think they all have a chance for Boise but I think Jimenez could benefit by repeating the AZL. Cubs in no hurry with all their young talent.

  • Great update as always. This site has helped me weather the lean years....feeling very optimistic for next year starting to be competitive again.

    Side note, since Jackie Robinson West is coming out of the losers bracket, do they need to beat Nevada twice to advance?

  • I for one have been taking little jabs at the FO about holding Bryant back a bit and believing that it is solely due to control of the extra year.

    With that said, everyone needs to check out an article Peter Gammons wrote in the Boston Globe today talking about how the Red Sox may have blown it with JAckie Bradley and Bogarts. He basically says that the Red Sox rushed these two (and quite possibly Mookie Betts) to the Parent Club. All three have had fewer than 330 ABs at the AAA level and that it is likely/possibly that by not giving them the proper times at that level has led to their absolute horrific seasons to date.

    Whether it is right or wrong, or it applies to Bryant/Soler/Baez, an interesting and timely read for us Cub fans.

  • In reply to IrwinFletcher:

    Excellent points made in that article Irwin.

    Whether, or not, the decision to NOT promote Bryant this season to the parent club and 40-man roster is primarily due to financial gamesmanship, or to developmental worries, or some of both - I'm thinking that Epstein & Hoyer and their staffs know more about the situation than I, you, or most others outside looking in do.

    I would rather the front office be somewhat conservative in moving guys up (whatever the reason) as long as it doesn't hurt the player's development, and as long as it provides some benefit longer-term to the team's development.

  • In reply to IrwinFletcher:

    Gammons is a wise man.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    “There is so much hype on a lot of these talented young players that teams feel they have to blow guys through fast,” says one club official. “They hear, ‘this guy can play in the big leagues right now.’ It’s tempting, but they get here very fast, and even faster their holes are exploited.”

    What a wonderful point to remember when so many clamor for the talented youngsters to be rushed to the Cubs. Gammons' article should be required reading for all Cubs fans!!

    http://www.gammonsdaily.com/peter-gammons-the-struggles-of-top-prospects-in-mlb/

  • Eno Sarris projects Castillo's best season in Cuba to just a .220/.247/.362 slash line in America.

    The Red Sox may have just paid $72M to a Tony Campana

  • In reply to MendyMania7:

    .247 OBP?!? That's lower than Darwin Barney.

  • In reply to MendyMania7:

    If thats the case , I can imagine all the laughs Theo will have on Lucchino.

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    In reply to MendyMania7:

    And when the Dodgers called up Puig he was something like the #68 overall prospect. How did that worked out.

    I'm not suggesting the Castillo is that good, just that Cuban evaluations have been spotty and I would probably trust Boston's evaluators over everyone but ours and the Rangers.

  • John:

    Famous last words: Things should get back to normal now,
    (But, I hope they do.)

    Recently, a few folks have commented on the negative and snippy tone of a few respondents to this website, particularly re: J. Baez. While comments with demeaning or racist overtones
    cannot be tolerated on this or any site, some of the impatience
    may be due to another factor.

    We are getting closer. While it may not be obvious in every game, the overall trend is clear.

    And with every step forward,
    losing becomes more painful.
    Just wait until we are contending and watch how anxious Cubs fans can get.

  • In reply to tboy:

    Haha! You're right. Maybe I spoke too soon. I am done with my teaching for the week, though, so that helps!

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    Billy McKinney is an extra base hitting machine! I think we may have struck gold with this kid

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    In reply to William Ray:

    I sometimes want to call it the Samardzija-McKinney trade...then I remember how good Russell is and I change my mind.

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    Just for fun what if in 4-5 years the Cubs have Schwarber (C-OF, LH bat), Zagunis (back-up C-OF, RH Bat) and McKinney (OF, LH bat) as a 2.5 headed monster at C-LF. How fun would that be?

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    In reply to Joel Mayer:

    How bad is it when I make a post like this and somehow forget about Bryant/Soler who are likely destined for OF!

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    Sorry when I responded your post hadn't come up yet.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    What are we going to do with Bryant? Many are projecting him to play LF.

  • In reply to John57:

    You cross that bridge when you come to it John.

    Fact is - IF Bryant, Soler, Zagunis, Almora, Alcantara, Schwarber, and McKinney all pan out as ML-level players and especially as OF players (fact is - probably some will fail or get injured along the way),... some of them are going to be playing for other teams and traded for value to restock the MiL system.

    Just like if Russell, Baez, Alcantara, Casto, Rizzo, Olt, Bryant are all fighting it out for playing time in the IF in a year or three - some of them are going to end up playing somewhere else as well.

    Its an unusual - but good - problem to have as long as your staff is good at evaluation of and retaining the best combination of talent and trading off the surplus for missing pieces for the Farm.

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    In reply to drkazmd65:

    This is fun. The same skills that allow them to accumulate all this talent will be focused on determining what the best combination to keep will be. And then determining what the best "packages" to get back will be. Not a bad situation.

  • Runners on the corners, 1 out.

    2 rookies up. 0 runs.

    Frustrating.

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    In reply to Jimmie Ward:

    AA has no excuse for not making contact. Baez wasn't even thrown a strike unless you call the one he popped up a strike.

    I know it's not as simple as this, but if I am Baez, I don't even think about swinging until I have a strike or it's 2-0. Pretty sure it will be 2-0 a lot

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    In reply to Jim Odirakallumkal:

    I think 0-2 will be more common if you go up there with that attitude. It may work for 1-2 ABs and then the pitcher will figure it out and throw strikes.

  • In reply to Jim Odirakallumkal:

    He's rarely thrown a strike in the beginning of a count, last night though Bumgarner threw him two fastballs down the middle to start an AB and he looked at both of them. He was then set up for a strikeout.

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    Everyone seems to want to move him to OF. I'm hoping he sticks at third.

  • Baez with his 6th HR!

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    That was a monster bomb. I loved seeing him work a 3-2 count and fouling off some tough pitches.

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    In reply to JLynch2247:

    they're all monster bombs. I'd rather have 2 in the basket, or even three off the ivy, than one on Waveland.

  • In reply to SKMD:

    I'd rather have three underwera model girlfriends and a billion dollars but that's not reality... How about giving the kid a break? He's 21 years old, breaking into the Major Leagues when most guys are still in A+/AA ball. He hasn't yet played 20 games or even 80 plate appearances, that's a ridiculously small amount of time for a batter to adjust to the best pitchers in the world. I hear people on here bitchin on here about him and Alcantara chasing high heat when, and I quote, "that's something you learn in little league"....well in Little League there aren't any pitchers that throw 95 MPH cheese, which moves all over the place, and you have a split second to react to. Only the top 0.1% even make it to the Majors, much less succeed against the best players in the world. When Darwin Barney left the Cubs he was batting .230 with 2 HR's after 72 games...this season...but he has been playing 2B for the Cubs for 5 years and 542 games during which time he hit .244 with a grand total of 18 HR's.Baez is hitting .216 with 6 HR's after 18 games...how about we give him a little bit of time to acclimate before judging what he can and can't do.

  • In reply to SKMD:

    Lighten up, dude.

  • In reply to SKMD:

    Yeah, but think about it. He's averaged a jack in 33% of the games played just getting his feet wet. .33 (162) = 53 jacks over a season. Of course, that's a silly translate, but you get the drift. Even now, if I'm a ML pitcher, I'm not thrilled about facing him.

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    In reply to cubs1969:

    The scariest thing for a pitcher is that there is no margin for error. He has gaping holes in his strike zone. That is not a secret. But if you miss your spot and make a mistake he will make you look silly. There are players that are really good hitters and have small holes, but can't do much damage on a "mistake." This guy launches the slightest mistake into low-Earth-orbit.

  • Very interesting note I thought I would share with the Den regarding Kyle Schwarber ad us thinking he was "wearing down after a long season"...

    On Aug. 16th, Kiley McDaniels was scouting Daytona when he posted this...

    "Went down the side today and noticed a bad change in Schwarber's swing: dragging his back foot forward mid-swing with no weight on it.... didn't do it last summer & no one mentioned swing issues this spring. I bet he was fixing something & started that accidentally.... luckily the Cubs' powers that be were at the game and they saw it the same time I did."

    So the Cubs Development guys noticed this mechanical issue in Schwarber's swing that day and addressed it with him. In the 6 games since.. Schwarber is hitting .435/.500/.957 with 2 HR's, 4 Doubles, and a Triple!!!

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    I guess they have to keep an eye on him to keep his form good. He looks like he is going to be an absolute monster catcher.

  • In reply to John57:

    It also shows what a hard game baseball is...the smallest tweek can have you struggling and not knowing why. I'm not sure that his latest hot streak is necessarily as a result of this, but he has certainly been crushing the ball ever since.

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    Very cool bit of information.

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    Nice! Thanks for the info.

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    Great post. This is one thing that excites me as much as the talent levels we're seeing. I believe that we have coaching up and down the system that is paying strict attention to every nuance of the game, and won't let talent alone dictate their own approach to players. We can also credit Theo/Jed for insisting on a new paradigm we haven't seen up until now.

  • In reply to cubs1969:

    I also like how they put little stock in wins or individual stats when it comes to tweeking a swing or adding a new pitch. The entire organization is focused on development. I don't think we have seen that type of commitment in the past.

  • In reply to bleachercreature:

    I meant to say at the minor league level.

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    In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    Thanks for the tidbit. These are the things I don't get on other sites.

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    If I were to list the reasons why this front office will produce better results than previous Cubs front offices, this would be one. This is what investing in player development gives you.

  • Martinez looks like a solid pitching prospect, still pinching myself that we were able to get him for Barney! Another great move by the FO.

    Zagunis is a run machine, not only did he get the double and the walk, but he also got hit by a pitch...he scored all three times on base.

    Also Hanneman is really impressing me with the way he seems to be improving. He is definitely working his way up the organizational chart.

    Finally, Charcer Burks with another two hit day including a double is now batting .326/.423/.435 at Boise and 318/.392/.439 for the year.

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    ...and Burks follows it up by going 3-6 today with a stolen base, now batting .337 in 28 games for Boise!

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    If I were Jose Abreu or Yasiel Puig, I would ask Castillo for a percentage of that 72 million. There is no doubt that he benefited to the tune of tens of millions on this contract by the great performances of those two players, especially Abreu. Boston fell 5 million short on their offer to Abreu a year ago and, I guarantee, is kicking themselves over that so they went overboard on Castillo.

  • In reply to Voisie Winters:

    Do you mean Voise Winters from Bradley ? They were good. Maybe I should change my name to Barney 'gold' Mines !

  • In reply to plymkr:

    I remember those teams. I went to Bradley during the Hersey Hawkins years.

  • I wasn't there until Anthony Parker, but my dad also went to Bradley and I've been listening [on my little transistor radio in my fort, lol] since about '78. Go Braves!

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    In reply to plymkr:

    Yep, that Voise Winters. He was scoring 40ppg at Gage Park HS in Chicago when I was in grade school

  • And here's how old I am. I was a big Bradley fan when Chet Walker and LaVerne Tart played there. Listened to most of their games on that old radio.

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