Daily Cubs Minors Recap: Olt! HRs; Almora gets pinch-hit walk off double, Sands continues to impress

Daily Cubs Minors Recap: Olt! HRs; Almora gets pinch-hit walk off double, Sands continues to impress
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In Chicago, the young core of Javy Baez (HR), Anthony Rizzo (HR), and Starlin Castro (3 hits) stole the show, but the top 3 prospects --Kris Bryant, Addison Russell and Jorge Soler went a combined 1 for 14.

Albert Almora, however, came off the bench to salvage the day while former top prospect Mike Olt continues to roll...

Las Vegas 6 - Iowa 4

  • LHP Chris Rusin ate up some innings (7), but he did allow 5 runs to take the loss, falling to 7-12 with a 3.91 ERA.
  • Arodys Vizcaino got his work in with a scoreless innings, walking one and striking out 2.  Since that weird, dead arm period in early July where he gave up 9 runs in 3 outings, Vizcaino has been back a little closer to his normal self with  6 straight scoreless appearances, touching as his as 99 mph.  But in those 8 innings he has walked 5 and struck out 6.
  • Matt Szczur went 2 for 5 with an RBI.  He has hit .307 with a .347 OBP since the all-star break.
  • Josh Vitters went 2 for 3 with a walk.  He has had a solid August so far, hitting .333/.378/.500 but that come on the heels of a July in which he hit .115/.188/.218 -- which is an impossibly low .406 OPS.  Vitters is hitting .219 overall.
  • Mike Olt went 2 for 3 with a walk and his 6th HR since joining Iowa.  He is hitting .329 in that span.  If Olt was hitting what he is hitting at the MLB level, he would have a .192 average with 18 HRs  -- that's Rob Deer-esque.  It remains to be seen how much he will be able to sustain and whether he can come back to the majors and perform better than he did earlier in the season, but the turnaround has been encouraging so far.

Tennessee 6 - Huntsville 5

  • If I give you part of Corey Black's line, it looks fantastic: 5 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 6 Ks.  The part I left off, of course, are the walks, and he had 6 of them,  He reached 89 pitches after the 5th inning.  He still would have been in line for the win, but Zach Cates, who has been solid this year, gave up 4 runs in just 2/3 of an inning to lose the lead.  Cates' ERA soared to 5.24.  Black has a 3.12 ERA but his FIP stands at 4.32 and he has walked almost 5 batters per 9 IP (4.95).  I've always said that Black's high effort delivery. lack of command and slight build is a best fit in the bullpen and I stand by that.  Perhaps his velo would uptick in that role and simplifying his repertoire and approach may help his command.
  • If it's a tie game, or even a close one, the Smokies can call on PJ Francescon and the chances are he will pick up a win.  Although he has pitched almost exclusively out of the bullpen, he is 10-6 with a 3.71 ERA after pitching a scoreless 1.1 innings.  He walked one and struck out one.
  • Jae-Hoon Ha went 3 for 5 with a double and 2 RBI.  It's been a bad year for the defensive stalwart.  He has hit .227 this year but has been more like his self in the 2nd half at .257/.324/.361.
  • Stephen Bruno doubled and scored twice.  Bruno is hitting .270/.343/.392 but has really slumped since his .291/.378/.471 first half.  He has hit .189 in August and .250 since the break.
  • Lars Anderson went 2 for 3 with a double and a walk.  He scored a run and drove in a run.  Anderson has hit .356 since joining the Smokies.

Kane County 6 - Quad Cities 3

  • So-so outing for Paul Blackburn, who lasted just 4 innings and gave up 3 runs.  His ERA jumped to 3.34.
  • LHP Michael Heesch bailed out Blackburn with 3 perfect innings: 9 up, 9 down, 4 via strikeout.  Heesch has been very good in a bullpen role.  The outing improved his record to 3-1 and lowered his ERA to 2.94.  If there is anything Heesch has struggled with, it's walks.  He has walked 17 in 33.2 innings but has struck out 40.
  • 24 year old Francisco Carrillo has been good since his promotion to Kane County and today it was two scoreless inning with 3 strikeouts to get his 2nd save.
  • Danny Lockhart's solid season at the plate continued with a 1 for 3 day in which he tripled and walked.  He scored 2 runs.  He is hitting .288 with a solid .350 OBP.
  • Ben Carhart went 2 for 4 with a 2-run HR, his 5th of the year.  Carhart has played all over the field this year and has hit 269/.339/.360 at Kane County.  He's been a valuable cog on the Cougars this year.
  • Jeffrey Baez went 1 for 4 with 2 RBI.

Boise

  • Josh Conway started a combined no-hitter attempt with 3 innings in which he walked  one and struck out 3.  Conway has posted a 2.60 ERA in his comeback season, walking 9 and striking out 18 in 27.1 innings.
  • 10th round pick Ryan Williams took the no-no bid into the 5th but lost in on a single with one out in that inning.  He went on to shut down Eugene the rest of the way.  He walked none and struck out 6.   The 22 year old Williams may be too advanced for Boise, posting a 1.93 ERA with just one walk and 19K in 18.2 innings.
  • 9th round pick James Farris picked up where Williams left off, extending the one-hitter through 9 innings.  He struck out 4 more in his 2 scoreless innings, though he did  walk one.  The 22 year old Farris lowered his ERA to 4.50.
  • Corbin Hoffner lost the lead in the 1oth when he walked 3 batters in just 1/3 of an inning. One of those walks came with the bases loaded.
  • Boise was getting no-hit themselves and in fact, did not get a hit for the first 9 innings.  Lucky for them, Eugene was on the wrong end of a 1-hit shutout themselves and the Hawks finally broke up the no-no when David Bote doubled in the 10th.

AZL Indians 6 - AZL Cubs 4

AZL Indians 0 AZL Cubs

  • Marcelo Carreno made another start on his road back, pitching 2 innings, giving up 2 runs, walking 2 and striking out none.
  • Another encouraging outing from 18 year old Jesus Castillo as he went 3 scoreless innings, walking one and striking out 4.  Castillo lowered his ERA to 2.59 on the year.  The walks are still high at 15 in 24.1 innings, but he has missed some bats as well (19 Ks).
  • Andin Diaz lost  the first game in the doubleheader when he allowed 3 runs in the top of the 9th.  He pitched 2 innings overall.  Diaz has been solid overall, however.  He is 2-2 with a 3.32 ERA with 8 walks and 22 Ks in 19 IP.
  • In the second game, 4th round pick LHP Carson Sands went 3 scoreless innings, walking one and striking out 2.  Sands has pitched 13 innings in his debut season and has allowed just one run (0.69 ERA).  He has walked 5 and struck out 13.  Sands is beginning to look like was worth the overslot bonus.  He is an advanced pitcher with a good fastball (low 90s) that possibly projects for more.
  • The 2nd round pick, Jake Stinnett, did not fair as well, allowing the AZL Indians to tie the game with 3 runs in 1.1 innings.
  • Zach Hedges then lost the game when he gave up a walk off run in the bottom of the 7th.  He had pitched 1.2 scoreless innings before then.
  • 2B Andrew Ely went 1 for 4 with 2 runs scored.
  • The 2B in the second game, Ho-Young Son, went 1 for 3 with a walk and stole his 9th base.
  • Gleyber Torres went 2 for 5 with 2 walks, double, run scored, and 2 RBI over the two games.  He also stole his 7th base.  Torres is hitting .288 with
  • Yasiel Balaguert continued his rehab with a 1 for 3 day that included a walk.
  • An odd note in that Jefferson Mejia, who is a top pitching prospect at the lower levels, DH'd the 2nd game and went 0 for 2 with a walk.
  • Kevonte Mitchell went 1 for 4 with 2 runs scored and stole 2 bases (14,15).  Mitchell is hitting .321.
  • RoneyAlcala went 2 for 4 with a double and a run scored.   Alcala is not known for his speed but also stole his 2nd base.  He is hitting .287 on the year after a slow start.
  • Ricardo Marcano went 2 for 3 with an RBI and upped his average to .281.  He also stole his 4th base.

 

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    At the speed that Mike Olt has turned his hitting around, I would guess that it is the quality of pitchers that he is facing, not adjustments that he made. Still, I could be wrong, nice to see him getting confidence back though!

  • In reply to Jeff Wilson:

    Got to see this as developmentally more positive than just the level of pitching he has faced, because as John pointed out the other day - This is the first time he has hit well at this level. His first run at AAA was awful, maybe he was just moved to fast because of his age.

  • In reply to Jeff Wilson:

    A couple thoughts on mike olt....
    the good
    -he getting consistant AB
    -Olt he has never hit this well at AAA.
    the bad
    -pitching is not as good
    -still striking out a ton
    For Olt to be a successful MLBer he just needs to hit .240ish and keep k-rate around 30%
    I think Mike will get his chance again in September (Valbuena is returning to form) as this will be his last chance to prove himself (with Bryant waiting in the wings). We shall see.
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  • In reply to bleachercreature:

    I would argue Olt doesn't even need to hit .240 to be a big leaguer, he just needs to be over .200. Mark Reynolds continues to get work despite low BA, High K rates and bad defense because he hits HRs. Olt has a chance to match that offensive profile and provide actual defensive value as well. Even if he just becomes the shortside of a platoon he can have a decent career. I have no issue with having Olt and Valbuena being the backup IFs next season with Vailaka in AAA as a fallback in case Olt flops again.

  • In reply to mjvz:

    Not for the Cubs, I hope. With all the power they will have (hopefully) in Baez, Rizzo, Bryant and Soler there will be no need for a one-dimensional home run hitter in the lineup.

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    In reply to JohnCC:

    I disagree. There is always room for a guy who can play defense, draw walks--yes, I think Olt can draw walks--and hit the ball out of the park. Both Valbuena and Olt more-or-less fit this mold. I think Olt could also learn to play corner OF in a pinch. Give me a good starting line-up and a defensively versatile bench with power and discipline and I think you will have a successful team.

  • In reply to bleachercreature:

    Remember hes back with Manny maybe Manny has been able to help him figure something out

  • In reply to Jeff Wilson:

    I am sure that has something to do with it but he is better than the last time he was at AAA at this time last year, so there's progress there. There has also been a change to his approach. He is more willing to go to RF. And he ripped a single off of Syndegaard yesterday. in all honesty there are pitchers not as good as him in the majors right now.

    That said, I don't think he is as good as he has shown. He's still not a guy who will hit for average. Best hope right now is that he is a 3 outcome guy.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Wasn't Olt already a 3-outcome guy? The problem was that there was too much of one outcome.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    His Babip was a ridiculous .425 the last time I looked. Combined with a K rate around 30% and BB rate of 5% something's gotta give.

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    In reply to JohnCC:

    I think the BABIP will drop but his BB% rate will increase. Probably not offsetting eachother, but that is what I think will happen.

  • In reply to Jeff Wilson:

    There's a new intangible now with Mike Olt. He's had a taste of "The Show". That's huge. He wants back. He knows he has to do whatever he can to get back.

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Actually, he got a taste in 2012. His .152 BA in 2012 looked eerily similar to his .139 BA in 2014.

    Not sure this alleged "intangible" means anything, much less being huge... but it certainly isn't new.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Olt had only 40 ABs in 16 games in 2012 and that was before the vision issue. Not much of a taste as compared to the over 200 ABs in 72 games this year after trying to come back from the vision problems. I think he knows that it is now or never and will do was he has to do to get back. That is huge. I hope he makes it.

  • In reply to Jeff Wilson:

    I think it points out how much confidence plays a role in the game. There is a fine line between a good major leaguer and a bad one. The difference between the two is often confidence rather than talent.

  • Projecting to next year . . . assuming all continues to form, do we see Addison getting the call to the bigs, or is he going to be put through a Bryant-like hold in AAA? He does/will have more than a full year of minors under his belt. Not certain about his agent.

  • In reply to Gunga:

    There are a lot of variables, but it definitely seems realistic that he could follow Baez's timeline. Start next yr at AAA, then get 350-500 AAA at bats before getting called up.

  • In reply to KSCubsFan:

    KS, it also depends on who is playing well in front of him and if the Cubs are in the playoff hunt. But I too would say August next year would be the earliest.

  • In reply to bleachercreature:

    I agree. But I still think 2016 at the earliest. If Olt doesn't work out and Bryant can't play 3rd adequately, then they can continue with Valbuena next year.

  • In reply to Gunga:

    His agent is Boras. Same with Bryant, Almora, McKinney, Coghlan, and Arrieta.

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    In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    I could be wrong, and obviously time will tell, but I think as we become legitimately competitive, the FO will not be as hyper-vigilant of service time, clocks, etc.

    We're terrible right now so there's no motivation. But I could see a post all-star callup for Russell if he's playing well and we are in the hunt.

  • In reply to Giffmo:

    Agreed. I think they strongly consider what is best for the team. If they need a boost, then the cost of promoting someone like Russell can be less than the cost of dealing for a veteran.

  • In reply to Giffmo:

    I agree. If we were in contention right now, Bryant and Soler both would be in Wrigley already.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Of course, if we were in contention, that might mean we have talent at the MLB level and didn't need to rush Bryant or Soler.

  • In reply to Giffmo:

    I think that there is a very good chance that we can be competitive next year in the same way that Cincinnati has been competitive for the past three years. A better than average team that will need a lot of breaks to beat slightly better competition.

  • In reply to Gunga:

    I think he will be put through a Russel-like hold in AAA. I doubt that Russell will be anywhere near ready for the MLB next year until September at the very earliest, and probably not then.

    We have seen that for most players, defense is the last thing to be polished, and for a shortstop, that lack of polish can be extremely important. You can live with a bad throw from CF Alcantara every three games or so, but a couple of bad plays from a shortstop every day can destroy a team.

  • Where is Addison going to play if he comes up in 2015
    If the lineup looks like, Soler RF, Alcantara CF, Coghlan LF, Bryant 3B, Castro SS, Baez 2B, Rizzo 1B.

    Bryant to LF and Addison to 3B? Cubs are getting crowded with talent as soon as this September

  • In reply to Burns0128:

    Good (potential) problem to have. While I have confidence in the prospects and the process some of these guys just won't be there due to injury, trades, production or development.

    I hope I'm wrong!

  • In reply to Burns0128:

    When he comes up, Russell will play shortstop. Period. Defensively, he is a couple of levels higher that either Castro or Baez.

  • I know the pitching isn't as good in AAA but I believe Mike Olt can hit the ball. He had a good spring training this year and I have always said he should have been given the third base position from day one this year. Let him focus on hitting and not winning a position. Take that pressure off him. Also, young developing players need to play everyday. We know the Cubs weren't going to win a world series this year. This could have been fantastic for his development. But it's good to see him show what he can do.

  • In reply to ajbulls23:

    I think they were trying to protect him some. While he was in MLB this year, his OPS vs. LHP was .700 and vs RHP it was .509.

    Yes, you want him to play as much as possible. But if he isn't performing, you have to put the kid in the best possible scenario to have success.

  • My guess is that Bryant goes to the OF if they keep all 3 shortstops.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    You have to love 3 shortstops in the infield. Talk about defensive range along with a potential gold glove first basemen in Rizzo. The Cubs will be groundball pitcher heaven if this happened.

  • In reply to JLynch2247:

    I love the idea of that kind of athleticism all over the infield -- and a good 1B as an anchor. That's a big advantage.

    I also have to say Bryant looks a lot more athletic at 3B than I thought he would.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I said the same thing to Kevin last year when I saw him in Daytona. And for a big man, he can fly around the bases. He looks like a Shark clone (minus the hair) only playing 3B. I bet he would have been a helluva WR too. lol

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    How good of a 3B do you think Bryant can be then?

  • In reply to JLynch2247:

    I think he can be an average MLB 3B -- which is good considering how much he can hit. Average always sounds like such a bad thing, but MLB average is pretty skilled.

  • In reply to JLynch2247:

    I could certainly live with this eventuality!

  • John,

    Why do they limit guys like Sands or even guys that came out of high school this year? I can understand players like Stinnett who just got done with a long season of college ball. Just hasn't dawned on me why to limit a high school guy.

  • In reply to SpencerGoCubs:

    There's a lot for them to absorb. Also, they've been playing non stop, even though the HS season has been over for months. There's an endless number of showcase tournaments, etc...

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Also, there is a growing body of opinion that believes that overwork is deadly on a young arm. Particularly when not used to that workload. Although I have never seen them say it, I believe it is a firm policy of the Cubs to severely limit the innings count for players under 22 or so, regardless of potential or performance. Hence the piggyback starters at Mesa and Boise.

  • In reply to SpencerGoCubs:

    They aren't used to this big a workload or for the competitive season to last this long. They are still growing and vulnerable to injury at this stage.

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    In reply to SpencerGoCubs:

    Hoosier is right. But also there is no reason to risk arm injuries. These guys are years away in the best case scenario. Their arms are still maturing. My wife is a PT and she tells me that a teenage arm is not able to handle the forces that are put on it when pitching too much, especially the amount of force that these kids put on them throwing in the 90's no matter how "effortless" the scouts describe their delivery. They can do it for a while but slowing down their workload is really helpful.

  • Here's hoping that for both the Cubs team standpoint, and as progress towards his being a solid ML-level player where ever it is that he ends up in the long term - that the Olt we have seen in Iowa is more representative of what we see in Chicago when Olt comes back up.

    And you have to figure - somewhere in the AL - there is a team that could use Lars Anderson as a DH/1B guy - heck - he's a decent enough defensive 1B that somebody in the NL could give him another serious look.

  • Mejia DHing is kind-of weird. Babe Ruth started as a pitcher did he not?

  • In reply to Bilbo161:

    He was originally listed as 6'7" and 195lbs, but reports in ST said he was 230+. Now that they are using him as a DH, can't help but wonder if we don't have a future Zambrano (minus the head case) on our hands.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Az Phil has stated that sometimes there are mistakes on the MILB reporting in terms of player indentification. I wonder if that happened here.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Is this Michael Barrett talking smack bout me?

  • Most of today's news on the national baseball websites discusses the selection of a new commissioner. Has anyone seen reports which candidate the Ricketts are supporting?

  • In reply to Rosemary:

    I vote against any Reinsdorf backed candidate.

  • In reply to Bilbo161:

    Agreed.

  • In reply to Rosemary:

    Bud Selig selected Rob Manfred, an MLB exec, as his successor but Red Sox owner Tom Werner is giving him a run for his money.

    Can you imagine if Werner was the commissioner when the Theo comp flap was going on?

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Baez would be hitting bombs over the green monster if that was the case... Ouch!

    And as big of a fan as I am of Javy... it would've been totally worth it.

  • John I looked at the box score and it looks like Steele gave up 3 runs and not Stinnett.

  • I know this is a rhetorical question, and need not be asked but...why do so many kids pick Scott Boras? With his load of already established clients in the "bigs", how many can he actually take care of? I have no idea what percentage an agent makes (3-4%?), but he's gotta be raking in 25 mil a year or something. And these kids gotta know how "he is". You'd think that a kid like Bryant or Addison Russell, would like a proven agent that can spend more 1 on 1 time with them and still make sure their needs are taken care of, and their respective employers aren't "put off" by their agent. Just an OT thought...

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    In reply to copinblue:

    Bora's is the best there is at what he does. Who doesn't want that?

    And it's not like he works on his own. I'm sure he has a fairly large staff.

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    In reply to copinblue:

    I don't think there is really that much that the agent has to do with each client on a day-to-day basis. He probably can go months without talking more than a few minutes with most of his clients (though he needs to be ready at a moment's notice if any of them need him).

    I also don't think he is the bogey man he is sometimes made out to be. Very few teams will "refuse" to work with any agent, especially one as prominent as him. It would hamstring them too much. As an agent it is not in his interest to antagonize too many teams either. The more teams he has in a bidding war the more money he makes for himself and his client. If he ticks off too many teams it will start to affect his pocket book by lowering the price and players will start to find out they could have made more working with another agent and he would quickly lose his clients.

  • In reply to copinblue:

    What I find ironic is how much hatred there is for Scott Boras on this blog. He's a former Cubs MiLB farmhand who made the FSL all star team. Knee injury's derailed his playing career.

    He's obviously a smart guy. He's a Pharmacist and an Attorney. Became disenchanted with representing Pharmaceutical giants and followed his passion to represent individual players as an agent and became the best there is at representing MLB players. How you can not respect & admire that?

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    This. Not only is Boras's personal story something to be admired but I just do not understand the hate he (and all respected agents that don't steal from their clients) get at all. I realize the guys he represents aren't exactly "the little guy" in comparison to us, but in comparison to the billionaires with anti-trust exemption they go up against, the players and their agents are most definitely the underdog.

    In many cases the players have their employers and working environment forced upon them for roughly 10 years with little to no recourse before they are granted the freedom to look for better opportunities. If they do not get along with their bosses, do not like the city they play in, or are blocked by another player who limits their chances for future financial success, their only recourse before that is to ask for a trade, in which case they are branded malcontents.

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    In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Because in his attempt to squeeze every last dollar out for his client, he doesn't always act in the best interest of the player.

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    My guess is 99% of the time, when he is squeezing every last dollar out for his client, his client is well aware that is what he is doing and has given his blessing. Why assume the client knows what is in his own best interest? I think Boras realizes that any one of these guys can have their career taken away from them the next time they throw a pitch or step up to the plate and so maximizing their earnings to set them up for life while they can is probably the right move for nearly all of them.

    The players that want to stay where they are and sacrifice some money to stay with their team are not turned away by Boras. He oversees those transactions as well.

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    That's where the player (as the client) needs to be smart enough and strong-willed enough to (at least potentially) say 'No' now and again to his agent.

    A good agent will fight like a pit-bull for their client's interest - it's up to the client to make sure that the agent knows when to turn it on and off.

    Boras - despite being maligned - is very good at what he does. If the players he represents didn't like it (or start to not like it) - then they can always fire him and get new representation.

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    He is paid to fight for and advise his clients. The actual decision is the players to make.

    i.e., He has to take the offer to them. So hypothetically, he can say "so and so is offering XXdollars for XXyrs, I think we should accept/counter with X...., etc". You can hate the game all you want. But hating Boras for fighting for his clients is like hating Theo for doing the best job he can for the Cubs.

    Ultimately, we're the real losers because the owners are making way more than the players, and the players are making astronomical amounts. We pay for that not only with increased ticket prices and food/drink/parking costs at the ball park; but everywhere else from the advertising costs that fund those gigantic TV contracts.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    We are the real losers? We are given substantial entertainment, in many cases for free. Most fans seldom pay to see a game, instead receiving their entertainment basically for free, watching on TV, reading papers and blogs like these.

    And those who do go to the games, do so because they think the cost is worth it. If they didn't think so, they wouldn't pay the ticket price.

    Baseball, like every other business, only makes money of they provide a product that is of value to it's customers.

  • In reply to DaveP:

    We are the losers in the economics of the game, yes. Simply because the cost to attend has increased more substantially than inflation.

    What you think is "free" because you watched it on television, you actually pay for indirectly. If you don't see that, then I'm not about to take you through an Econ101 course. I'm sure you can Google that and find the info for "free".

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    I am not aware of any situation where he clearly did not act in the best interests of his client. All his clients, Arrieta being the latest, say that he keeps them informed of everything that goes on, and works to satisfy the client's goals. Almora wanted to sign early, so Boras got him signed early. If Arrieta wants a long term contract at this point, I would expect Boras to get him the best long term contract that is possible.

    Most complaints against Boras boil down to the fact that he words for the best interest of his client, not the best interest of the Club he is negotiating with.

  • In reply to DaveP:

    When it's all said and done, players are trying to care for their families. Of course you pick Boras as your agent. He's one of the best.

  • In reply to copinblue:

    I would imagine that Boras is not a one-man operation. Does anyone know for sure?

  • Perhaps this has been discussed at length on this site but I read the other day that the Cubs have been heavily scouting Syndegaard recently. With the Mets being known to want a long term short stop I've got to wonder if there is something there since obviously we have a surplus.

  • In reply to Holy Cattle:

    The teams match up well. The Mets like Castro and Russell/Baez were roughly on the same level when it comes to minor league prospect ranking (all top 10 guys).

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Syndegaard's stats look awful. Mets can keep him.

  • In reply to John57:

    Las Vegas is one of, if not the most hitter friendly ballparks in all of baseball. Any numbers put up there need to be taken in context.

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    In reply to mjvz:

    Also, his last 5 starts look like this:
    5G, 28.2IP, 1.88ERA, .382BABIP (seems pretty high to me), 11BB, 32K, 5 2B, 0 HR, 0 3B.
    And this includes a game against the Iowa Cubs. Granted there was no Javier Baez, but Bryant and Soler were there. Before that he struggled mightily, but something might have "clicked" for him like it did for Baez.

    I go back and forth on trading for him but nothing will happen until this offseason as no one the Mets would likely accept is likely to get through waivers.

    It could also solve another "problem" of the Cubs having too many SS/2B close to major league ready and not enough spots to put them. Though I will be honest, there is still part of me that believes in TINSTAAPP.

    Is there any chance we could overwhelm the Mets with a bunch of guys OUTSIDE of our top 5-6 prospects? Maybe centered around Vizcaino, Olt/Valbuena, Black and Vogelbach (and a "rejuvenated" Josh Vitters? LOL)? I know it is a longshot but worth a try. Or am I just getting too attached to our top guys?

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    The game against the Cubs did not have Baez or Soler. It was one of Soler's planned down days.

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    In reply to John57:

    OK, I saw that Soler had an AB and didn't dig into it to find out who he faced. Sorry. I also mentioned no Baez. Still, he is not quite 22 yo and is on a roll in AAA in a tough park for pitchers.

    I am as much of a numbers guy as anyone but when I see someone rated this highly and their stats are that inconsistent with that I start to dig. I found enough to be impressed with to say I would consider trading, though I would rather it be from depth outside of our top guys than from the cream of our crop.

  • In reply to Joel Mayer:

    And the Mets need a SS. They want Russell. They don't want/need what you proposed giving them. Do you want to trade Russell for Syndegaard?

  • In reply to John57:

    MiLB stats are far from meaningless, but they should be taken with a grain of salt... Here's a recent article breaking down Syndegaard's story behind the stats.

    http://www.amazinavenue.com/2014/7/25/5937067/mets-prospect-noah-syndergaard-analysis-2014

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    In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Nice article. Thanks HoosierDaddy.

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    In reply to John57:

    ROFL....Thanks, I needed that this afternoon.

  • In reply to bocabobby:

    Are you willing to trade Russell for him. That is what they want. I still say you can keep him.

  • Russell for Syndegaard makes a lot of sense to me. You do lose the insurance of having another quality infield prospect, but if you can go get lester, your rotation for next year is

    Lester
    Arrieta
    Syndegaard
    Wood
    Hendricks

    You now have three legitimate TOR talents, and pleny of guys waiting in the wings to take a 4/5 spot if Hendricks struggles or Wood continues to look like the 2014 version instead of the 2013.

  • In reply to Mjtharp2:

    I think Turner takes that #3 or #4 spot in the rotation with your scenario. So #5 comes down to Hendricks/Wood.

    But I'd rather they deal some lesser prospects with MLB pitching to upgrade the pitching. I'd think Wood/Straily/Doubront/Wada, etc... once value is re-established packaged with a lesser MLB established player (i.e. Olt/Coghlan, etc) could fetch a decent SP AA/AAA prospect...

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    In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    I could go for that.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    HD you are the Stinnett expert. Did you see he was in the game summary last night but had no results? Did they announce him and then decide to change pitchers right away? John's summary says he gave up 3 runs in 1.1 innings but the box said that was Steele.

  • In reply to John57:

    I'm far from the Stinnett expert. I've never met or saw him play in person. I do have a couple of friends that are scouts that have shared some insights on him. Which I've passed along here.

    No clue what happened in AZ last night, sorry.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Thanks

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    I just looked at the box again and Stinnett's line was taken out. It must have just been a data entry mistake.

  • I like all 3 shortstops, but if Bryant can play mlb 3b and Soler mlb rightfield. It just makes too much sense to trade one of them.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    If Bryant and Soler can play good to great in the corner OF positions and you have 3 good to great shortstops to play 3B, SS, and 2B, why do you feel it "makes too much sense to trade one of them"? Personally I would love to keep all 5.

  • In reply to John57:

    I'm ok with that as well, but the Cubs are building a championship team not just collecting the best hitters. Certainly possible that the two are in sinc.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    Totally agree. I was not just thinking about hitting. I was definitely thinking about who was best in what position defensively.

  • Any New Developments on Dylan Cease Road to recovery.Is the PRP doing enough??? or has anything changed since the signing. Hoping for a strong healed arm in the spring

  • We like to talk about who may play where a lot here (which I enjoy), so here's my 2 bits on the matter. I've had the pleasure of seeing Castro, Baez and Russell all play SS in person. Russell is the best of the lot - hands down. That said, I don't see the Cubs moving Castro off of SS after the progress he's made at the plate this year. I know Castro is on record saying that he'll move to whatever position is best for the organization. Nice, but I think it would possibly be a mistake. I'm not taking any chance of messing up his progress at the plate by moving him. I know a change of position shouldn't have any affect on a players at bats, but sometimes it does. I'm not taking that chance. Russell should be able to play an above average 3B. Hoyer claims Baez will be an excellent 2B in the future. So, as John has written in the past, with the infield shifting that is prevalent in baseball today, why wouldn't you want three SS playing all three infield skill positions. It's pretty obvious to me. I just wouldn't take a chance on disturbing Castro's progress by moving him to another position.

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