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Commenting Policy

One of the great things about Cubs Den is the quality of the readers and commenters.  There is a lot of information discussed that extends beyond the article itself.   But it's not just the intelligence of our community that makes the comments section a go-to place, it's the respect and civility in which debates are handled.  It's simply a great place to talk all things Cubs.

The site continues to grow and so I thought this would be a good time to remind everyone of our commenting policy.

  1. First and foremost, respect the authors and the commenters.  You don't have to agree with them and if you have a different point of  view, then by all means share it.  But personal attacks or harassment of any kind will not be tolerated. Those comments will be deleted.  No exceptions.  No excuses.  
  2. Trolling the authors and/or commenters will not be tolerated.  Those comments will be deleted as well.   And believe us when we say we couldn't care less what trolls have to say.   We just don't want to cater to desperate pleas for attention.
  3. In general, the comments should be about baseball and as always it's okay to reference anything off-topic.  Be my guest.  We're open to discussing anything Cubs or baseball in general.  The same goes for any friendly tangents into pop culture and other sports.
  4. This is not a political blog, so please save those opinions for another stage.  I find that nothing can break down civil discourse faster than politically charged rhetoric.  As I have often said, baseball is my refuge from that sort of thing.
  5. No spamming.  If you have a site you want to promote, contact me personally and we can work something out.  Generally I am good with this and I will link you in the post itself where it will get more readers.
  6. Anti-social and/or hostile behavior will not be tolerated.
  7. I do not moderate comments beforehand and so if you get a message that it your comment is "awaiting moderation" and does not appear or if it goes to the spam filter, let me know and I will release it.  If you have been one of the very few who have been banned, your comments will not be seen nor read by anyone at any time.  So if you want to appeal your status, contact me directly.  Similarly I  don’t even what gets trapped in the spam filter.  If you’re a reader in good standing, which is like 99.99% of you, then I just release it without needing to look at it.  It is often there because of links or because the comment is long.  And if the spam is from a hostile reader who is known to be a repeated offender (which is basically 2 or 3 people), I just send it to the trash without reading it. The only time comments ever get read — even by me — are once they are on the forum for everyone to see.  Again, I don’t moderate comments in advance.
  8. Lastly, I can and will make decisions based on anything or anyone I deem bad for business.

Additional suggestions

  • We are not all going to agree on everything.  That would be boring.  But if you find yourself in a debate and it's starts to get out of control, walk away.  It does not mean you "lost" the debate.  If anything, it takes more courage and confidence to walk away. There are times to debate but sometimes we reach the point where it's better to agree to disagree.  But hey, if you can keep it under control and keep it respectful then you can go all day if you want!
  • We are all wrong some of the time.  If we weren't, then Theo and Jed would have to start worrying about their jobs.  Trust me. They aren't worried.
  • You don't need need to look at a debate as something you need to "win" at all costs.  Believe me, nobody is keeping score.  There are no Cubs Den commenter standings.  Understand that you can almost always find common ground and there is always something to learn.  I can tell you without hesitation that I learn something everyday on this blog and it could come from any given commenter on any given day.  The beauty about baseball is you don't ever have to stop learning.  But if you're the type of person who thinks they are right all the time, it doesn't make people think you are the smartest person in the room.  The only thing it tells them is that you have stopped learning.  And, well, that's kind of sad...and boring.
  • You'll find that if you do need to correct someone on something factual or grammatical, doing it respectfully goes a long way.   Making someone feel stupid about it never works.
  • If your sole purpose of commenting is to pick fights with other commenters, then don't be surprised if people stop listening to what you have to say.  Nobody likes truculent commenters.

None of us are perfect.  We will all make mistakes from time to time, myself included.  Let's do our best to keep this blog as a place where where everyone feels free to express their opinion without fear of ridicule or personal attacks.  You will find people here with all sorts of opinions.  Bring your own and feel free to back it up.  Just do it respectfully.

Thanks for reading and I appreciate everyone's support.

 

 

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  • I'll take your tips as an advice lol... I for one don't know how to walk away from a debate... That said, my replies are 98% baseball and if I reply it's with my own point of view, I try not to stray from the subject... But when it gets heated, it's just better to get up, leave your comp, phone or tablet and do something else, come back later and maybe you can share the same point and get better responses the next time around.

    I am of the opinion that the board here sets this website apart from others... I have had conversations (on both ends) when one party is proven wrong with facts and research and the other one just accepts it and thanks the person for sharing the knowledge and learning experience, like I said, here, I've been on both sides... But in some other boards people tend to just lose it and be quick to throw an insult, which is easier than to find a good argument... At that point, move on to the next conversation.

  • In reply to Caps:

    Haha :) Easier said, then done right? I know what you mean. If you want to keep debating and it's about baseball, you don't have to walk away, you can do it all day. They can be fun if they don't get personal.

    And thanks for the kind words about our community. Everyone works hard at it and I know we'd all like to keep it that way.

  • That's what's great about this site. I have learned things everyday from perspectives to facts and stats I never even thought of. Great place to raise or lower my blood pressure depending on the topic- thanks

  • In reply to edubbs:

    Thanks Edubbs. I like that description :)

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Quick question off topic- from your conversations with people in the organization, is a winning attitude being instilled? For the past 15 years, my son and I would attend the Cub caravan in central Illinois and it wasn't until a few years ago that Bob Dernier stated " we are here to win the World Series." NO ONE had ever stated the goal as that. It really hit me like a ton of bricks.

  • In reply to edubbs:

    Absolutely. Albert Almora has said it, so has Kyle Hendricks. I talked to Ben Carhart and he said some great things about how they're developing not just as players, but as winning teams, You can read that here...

    http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2013/10/q-a-ben-carhart-talks-about-winning-a-championship-his-daytona-coaching-staff-and-teammates-and-converting-to-catcher/

  • The aforementioned is why this is THE cubs blog. I learn something everyday, and usually more often than that. I still think everyone should enjoy this blog while it lasts...John wont be here forever. I don't know much, but I know that.

  • In reply to copinblue:

    Thanks copinblue!

  • Thank you, John. The absence of snarky, personal jabs is what keeps me coming back. It's been bleeding in here and your leadership in communicating this policy and enforcing it ongoingly will ensure that this blog, your blog, will remain the best Cubs blog out there. Thanks again.

  • In reply to Quedub:

    One of the great things about this blog is I don't always feel the need to comment anymore because it has grown to include so many people that someone else usually posts a similar take. However, in this instance, let me say I agree 100% with everything Quedub has stated.

    Thank you John.

  • In reply to mjvz:

    I'll second that mjvz!

    John, thanks for posting this, hopefully this blanket reminder is all that's needed to end some of what's been happening recently.

  • In reply to Quedub:

    I agree. John is "nipping it in the bud", to quote Barney Fife, which is the best way to handle it, in my opinion.

  • In reply to Quedub:

    Thank you Quedub. I appreciate the support and the kind words. Look forward to your comments again, though I know you mostly chime in on prospect stuff.

    Tentative plans to start that soon again.

  • Ditto. Remember when you start unpacking your rage here that it's a drag for a lot more people than the one you're dumping on. And most of us will think less of you, even if you're "right."

  • In reply to wastrel:

    Very true, it affects other commenters, not just the person being attacked.

  • Even when you feel like punching the guy misrepresenting your position in the face... with a knife... just channel your inner Burgundy and you stay classy, San Diego.

    And if you pride yourself on logic, reject absolutism. Realizing the relativism of personal values inherent in all of our opinions helps you discover that with most debates there is no right and wrong, just a difference of priorities and a speaking at emotional cross purposes.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Wise words, Carne.

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    Hear, hear!

  • Another thing that makes this blog so great is that you can learn a lot from those who comment and from the insight that John and others provide. Thanks, John.

  • In reply to pricewriter:

    Thanks PW!

  • I really enjoy writing for this community of readers and commenters, it's really fun to read the responses on articles and while I can't always reply it's great to just glean what people are thinking.

    Really enjoy real baseball talk, and it's provided here.

  • In reply to Mauricio Rubio Jr.:

    And thank you for the work you've done and will be doing. It's almost stunning to think what fine baseball minds we have at work here.

  • Ever since I 'dumbed' into this Blog last winter - I have found it to be one of the most informative places, and one of the most generally respectful places I have run into on the internet.

    I know that I (for one) am one of the most opinionated people you might ever meet in the realm of politics (although I suspect many of us are given a bit of inspiration) - but I do my dangedest to keep that the heck out of here for EXACTLY that reason - Cubs fans cross those barriers - and it's one location where I think many across the political spectrum can agree.

    Let's keep it clean folks - and if I lapse into political rhetoric please dope-slap me and get me back into line pronto.

  • Thanks for writing this, John. What I always end up thinking when seeing "heated" debate, is that we all really are on the same page and the disagreements are basically nuances, i.e. how we think we should get from point A to point B. This blog is an educational place and even though I might wholeheartedly disagree with someone on an issue, I likely still learn something from that someone. This is a must read for Cubs fans.

  • Thanks John for the reminder. Like many of the posters, I mainly read and not comment for I don't have the expertise many of our fellow posters have. We are embarking on my second favorite season (following summer baseball) and that is winter meetings, trades, free agent signing - you know, winter baseball. As an educator, I can appreciate the difference of opinion and the courage from you, John and the other moderators, to keep this site civil, respectful and the best. Looking forward to reading about continued Cub successes.

    Onward!

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    I agree, but with one caveat. I think where politics directly affects the Cubs, as it has with the Wrigley renovations, it's appropriate to talk about. When it comes to that discussion, you can't get away from it because it simply wreaks of it.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Politics are everywhere, but it's in general terms when it comes to the Cubs or any other team. Don't want to get into spitting match about how it's all the fault of the Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Green Party, Tea Party, Whig Party, or the Bull Moose party.

  • I disagree with John alot and we debate the merits of Castro and Samatdzija until we are both blue in the face. The thing you guys don't know is after that we end up talking on the phone about something else entirely.

  • In reply to KGallo:

    Haha :) Very true. You and I agree on a lot more than we disagree on.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I'll make a bet with ya John , next year Castro hits at least .285 and is very good no matter what uniform He is wearing . :)

  • I know I repeat myself, but its what I really believe. Cub fans are
    the greatest and we should enjoy reading what each of us
    have to say. Its only baseball and a big part of our lives

  • Does Navarro to the Jays pave the way for Garza to follow and thereby quash any thoughts of a Shark sighting in Canada?

  • In reply to Cleme:

    I am going to say no. A lot of teams are afraid to touch Garza because of Health concerns and give the health issues the Jays have had with their pitching staff. I don't think Jays are willing to risk it.

  • I was honestly surprised to see this article posted because I have seen very little in the way of attacks or insults on this blog. It's why I enjoy coming here. I've learned quite a bit, the writers are very interactive with the readers, and there's always good discourse to be found in the comments.

    There's another well-known Cubs blog (sorry John, I am seeing other blogs) where things have gotten really negative lately. Personal attacks, insults, slurs, and anti-Cubs posts are basically the norm now and it's just not nearly as fun of a place as it used to be. I have found myself spending less time there.

    So with the excellent addition of Mauricio, there's even more reason to come here. I apologize in advance for the increase in the number of Tweets I will be cutting and pasting here.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    I'm like you in that I don't remember reading any inflammatory remarks aimed at anybody here.I look forward to coming here everyday to get my Cubs fix. Many thanks to the writers and commenters here for making this a most enjoyable place to go.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    I'm like you in that I don't remember reading any inflammatory remarks aimed at anybody here.I look forward to coming here everyday to get my Cubs fix. Many thanks to the writers and commenters here for making this a most enjoyable place to go.

  • I agree, there is another Cubs blog site I follow, and the comments there have really turned to a nasty and derogatory tone in the past few months. Life is to short to waste it reading garbage from sad frustrated people. This place is the best.
    You really want to see how polluted a board can become, visit Cards Talk on the Post Dispatch website. Years ago, it was a place to have some good baseball discussion with fans who knew some baseball. Now, it is just an insult fest. Name calling is the norm, and personal insults flow. The moderators did nothing to stop it. I will spend my free time here, much more fun.
    Hey, I saw Seth Smith and Drew Stubbs were non tender candidates. They are both pretty good players, seems like Stubbs would be a nice right hand platoon for the Cubs. Am I crazy?

  • It was mostly my fault

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    emart, you are one of the last people I worry about :)

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    The commenting guidelines are great, but none of us could ever win a debate with John. After all, his last name starts with the word "argue".

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    lol

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    LOL you got me there.

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    It's in my blood :)

  • I go way back as a Cub fan and this is the best time ever to be one. Good owner, FO, prospects, and Cubs Den. Enjoy the process!

  • Navarro to Blue Jays...Does it mean Samardiza(sp) followiing?

  • I appreciate the lack of political discussion on this board on a daily basis. I used to rely on a different Cubs blog, but there was too much politics.

    "nobody is keeping score"

    Uhh...so I should not be keeping my spreadsheet?

  • In reply to Richard Beckman:

    Agreed.

    And LOL..yeah, you can throw that spreadsheet away.

  • In reply to Richard Beckman:

    Talking about the Cubs Trumps politics , politics makes me bleed from my eyes and other places ... lol

  • I have been a loyal reader of Cubs Den and it is where I go to first to get all my Cubs news. Living in Texas it has been a goodsent and I appreciate all the the minor league info. John and everyone who writes thank you so much for all your hard work. This is the first comment I have left, but plan on chipping in more. I appreciate the the respect and civility in which debates are handled. It's simply THE place to talk all things Cubs. Keep up the good work and let's keep it classy

  • In reply to cubbybear7753:

    Thanks Cubbybear!

  • Dan Szymborski ‏@DSzymborski 1m
    Darnell McDonald signed minor-league deal with Cubs. Kinda strange, but in fact, he's now outlasted all but 4 of other '97 first-rounders.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    This says to me that even in an emergency (like last year with Junior) they want their AAA outfielders at AAA for a full season. So Szczur, Golden, Andreoli, etc will stay in Iowa. His success last year (small sample) was so far above his career averages, they can't be thinking of him as anything more than veteran depth as a 5th/6th OF'r.

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    In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Golden, as in Reggie? Did I miss something? Because, I thought he was still struggling mightily in A ball.

  • In reply to Matt McNear:

    That's right about Golden, and I think Andreoli will start in AA-Tennessee again.

  • In reply to Ghost Dawg:

    Agreed. Golden probably gets a shot at Daytona. It's probably make or break for him. I don't seem to get a lot of enthusiasm when I've spoken to people about him. He can hit some majestic HRs but he's so far behind from a development standpoint so it's hard to see him catching up quickly at this point. Might be a late bloomer at this rate.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    Cubs love his attitude -- a guy they want hanging around the young kids, whether it's at AAA or as a 5th OF'er.

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    mjvz said, "One of the great things about this blog is I don't always feel the need to comment anymore because it has grown to include so many people that someone else usually posts a similar take"

    I agree with him. But when I do see posts I like, but require no further comment, I'd like to be able to acknowledge them with a "like" or "thumbs up"

    John, is there any way to add a feature like that, or is that sort of format change up to ChicagoNow?

  • In reply to Mike Partipilo:

    That would be a nice add, but I would have to switch to Facebook comments.

    I can take a poll on that at some point. I'm not sure how many of you are on FB.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Any thought about the possibility of switching to Disqus?

  • Of all the comment/discussion boards I've ever been on this is by far the most civil, and the most impressive intelligence wise. Some real sensible knowledgeable fans. Especially for Cub fans who are usually WAY too emotional, and irrational. I come here to read the comment section almost as enthusiastically as the content itself. Big UPS to all the commenters and the writers for engaging them.

  • In reply to jackhammerebm:

    Thanks Jack!

  • Thanks for the reminder about comments. Unlike the idiocy I read in the comment section of our local newspaper, the comments here are well thought out and respectful. This is my first comment, but I have been an avid follower of the Cubs Den for over a year. Keep up the great work.

  • In reply to 1945AD:

    Thanks 1945AD. I appreciate that.

  • He models professionalism with a team first approach. McDonald gets good at bats and doesn't try to do too much. Good signing and the kind of player that is nice to have if needed.

  • As of right now Brett Jackson looked like a super star compared to Javier Baez. Personally I don't think he is ready for the MlB and out our the top 4 prospects he is the most likely to fail.

  • i did list a sentence that didnt make sense yesterday.. apologize if it seemed trollish - not the intent

  • I would love to be at Bryant's first game also. Not sure that will be possible schedule wise due to work but I plan on getting a Bryant jersey the minute he hits MLB. I have anticipated that day since the day he was drafted. Going to exciting year.

  • Does the comment section accept HTML so that we could use hyperlinks? I'm assuming not since I've never seen it but thought I'd ask.

    John, thanks for making this blog one of the only sites on the web where it's worthwhile to read the comments!

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