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Cub fans relax. Chris Young to sign with Mets.

Cub fans relax. Chris Young to sign with Mets.

Declining, disappointing, overrated Chris Young, who was rumored as a possible platoon player for the Cubs, and was championed by several arm chair GM's, has agreed to a deal with the New York Mets. Cub fans who were terrified that Young might bring his downward spiral to Wrigley and become an older version of Dave Sappelt, or a faster version of Scot Hairston, or a right handed version of  Jaque Jones, can breathe just a tad easier knowing that Young will be striking out and wearing a groove between Home plate and the dugout At Citi Field in disgusting Flushing, Queens.

Young's career started out gangbusters. A highly touted prospect in the White Sox organization, Young was the centerpiece in the deal that brought Javier Vasquez to the South Side. And Young had a fabulous rookie season, belting 32 home runs. That season culminated, as you might recall, with a home run in the second game of the National league playoffs off of Cub starter Ted Lilly, who threw his glove in to the mound so hard you thought he was trying to raise Orcs from the dead in middle Earth.

But strike outs were a problem and the BA peaked at .257......Gow. Eventually the snakes tired of Young, trading him to Oakland in a trade that brought back harry disease Heath Bell......Double Gow! Young tanked in Oakland and will try to revive his career with the Mets. We wish him well.....from a distance.

Cub aren't out of the woods yet. Bronson Arroyo is still out there. More on this situation as it develops

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Tags: Chris Young, Gow, Ted Lilly

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    Oh god.... Please.... No Bronson Arroyo...

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Arroyo is not a guy I want to see pitching half his games in Wrigley,... too much long-ball danger from him - although he has been very durable.

    My guess - we don't need to go out and spend FA money on pitchers like Arroyo when we have potentail innings-eaters in our own system like Beeler could be.

    Don't get me wrong - he's had a good career for some pretty good teams. Just don't see him as being anything the Cubs need unless they get him for a really good price on a flippable contract with the intent of doing just that midseason.

  • In reply to drkazmd65:

    Amen to both of you on Arroyo.

  • I have a feeling that the Cubs might be aiming a little higher as far as any possible off-season acquisitions go.

  • I sure hope you're right.

    Arroyo is supposedly close to the Twins. I'm putting in a phone call to all my Minneapolis friends to see if there's anything I can do to make that deal happen.

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    A trend in baseball is to lock-up young players as quickly as possible to save money. I wonder if Chris Young's career started a few years later if someone wouldn't have tried to lock him up, then regret that later.

    Signing him to an extension after his best year would have seemed very logical; you're locking up a guy with power, athleticism, who plays a premium defensive position fairly well.

    Just goes to show the risks with that, and particularly the risks with a player who strikes out alot; with that many Ks, it's fine line between acceptable and roster fodder

  • Don't worry about Bronson. The Twins are after him as part of their program to infuse more youth onto their pitching staff.

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    In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Well played! LMAO!

  • "he was trying to raise Orcs from the dead in middle Earth."

    Such a geek.

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    I've been thinking about the possibility of adding Matt Kemp the past couple days. The murmurs of Ryan Braun, being a target of the Mets made me think if there were any other rare talents that were available.
    The description of Kemp's surgery sounds scary, and reminiscent of Grady Sizemore, "The arthroscopic operation included the removal of several spurs and a loose body. microfracture of the talus bone, a procedure of punching numerous holes in the bone to stimulate the formation of an overlying layer of fibrocartilage"
    Anyone else have opinions on Kemp? The Dodgers are such an enigma, I'm not sure how they view him. This does make me more willing to kick the tires on Grady Sizemore. Kemp-type flyer without the albatross of a contract.

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    In reply to Theo Einstein:

    That's where I believe the Theo effect helps the Cubs. This FO will not overpay for such a gamble of Kemp or Sizemore. But as a savvy group, they will not leave any stone unturned. If you can take a flyer on either player for a modest amount, it would be worth at least talking about it.

    I didn't believe that Hendry took enough low risk gambles as he should have. He did so with Dempster, which turned out to be a great move. But that seemed to be it. It seems as if anytime a once promising player is released or made available, the Cubs now jump all over the player (i.e. Bard, Olt). I feel like whenever I see one of these players released, I say to myself, "I wish we would take a chance," only to find out the FO has already had the same thought.

    We don't know what the Dodgers would ask for Kemp, but you know that this FO will at least ask. That's a big change that I am very proud of for this organization.

  • In reply to the real alman:

    Any bets the LAD start with Soler or Baez? Id hang up the phone on them.

  • I think this regime is too smart to strike a deal with Chris Young or Bronson Arroyo. If anything, that's what I've learned with their acquistions over the past two years. This is why, after two long years...and they've been long, my mentality hasn't changed. We are going to turn into perennial winners at some point with the hopes that one of those winning years, at the least, turns into a World Series Championship.

  • In reply to apalifer:

    Except for the night he and Jed went out and got drunk, and gave Edwin Jackson 52 million bucks, I agree.

  • It may be smart to not be involved with Chris Young, but I'm beginning to wonder if the cubs will be involved in any transactions. Will they sit on the sidelines until 2015?

  • I think Chris Young could have been a solid signing, actually, provided you only expect him to play a role and not that he will be the impact player he once was.

    On a one year deal, I'm good with that. He isn't going to make the Cubs winners, but he can be a small piece.

    I'm disappointed he signed elsewhere, actually.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I'm with you John.
    His K rate was 25% last year and 23% in career. If some people think THATS bad, wait til Baez and Bryant make their debuts.
    I think Young gets at least 2012 numbers l, based on his BABIP bouncing back, and that gives the Mets a 2-3 win player for $8M.
    In other words, the 2nd best position player production if this were the 2013 Cubs.

  • In reply to Norm:

    Good points, Norm. that's how I look at it as well.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I think he would have been fool's gold. I think he would have had some 3-4 with two HR game in April, Cubs Den will be flooded 50/50 with "We might have found a diamond in the rough...." and "Quick, let's flip him for prospects I've never heard of but Arguello has" comments. Then he strikes out 20 out of 50 AB's, throws a ball from CF into Len and JD's booth, and everyone is disappointed.

    Gonna be hard to speak rational with me on Chris Young. Not only did he pee in the soup for one of my favorite AL teams last year. But he has been an expensive purchase on many of my fantasy team auctions. Only to see .212 trying to burn itself onto my forhead like a third eye.....

    Nah, good luck with the Mets.

  • In reply to felzz:

    I think what you will see is a player who will play good defense, give you some good ABs, hit for some pop. He won't hit for a average but I can easily see him putting up a .325 OBP, which would be better than a lot of Cubs last year, while hitting around 15 HRs.

  • In reply to felzz:

    So.....

    You hate him because he beat your favorite AL team and cost you on your fantasy team.

    A poster cites valid statistics showing he may not be as bad as people might think.

    And your conclusion is that he is fools gold.....

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    In reply to IrwinFletcher:

    This is why I hate fantasy baseball

  • In reply to Pooch7171:

    I 'love' fantasy baseball,.... but it bears little resemblance to what one would really need to do to build a good real-world baseball team.

  • In reply to IrwinFletcher:

    No.

    I hate him because I see a lot of wasted talent. I see a player who could have been "anything" and will be lucky to be "Something"

    Throw in the fact that the "Change of scenery" didn't work.

    The poster posted a valid STATISTIC. one....singular. The rest was conjecture. Just like mine.

    And yes, I think he will be fools gold. Because that's what he's been.

  • In reply to felzz:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mets-land-bargain-in-chris-young/

    Dave Cameron does an excellent job disagreeing with you entirely.

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    In reply to Andrew:

    Dave Cameron also has no qualms about the Vargas signing either. ;)

  • I personally think Lake needs to play everyday to see if He is a long term asset , having been up 1/2 a year and did a pretty solid job as well as doing well in winterball I would like Him tyo get a real shot playing everyday. Better than trotting out Chris Young .

  • In reply to Bryan Craven:

    I agree. Lake and the 3 lefties. We still need a right handed bat, here's hoping that Vitters takes the next step to fill that role next season.

  • In reply to Roe Skidmore:

    Vitters finding his way - even if only as a nice platoon piece - potentially solves a lot of the potential offense problems on next year's outfield.

    A bit of power,.... good contact rate,.... at least adequate defense,....

  • In reply to drkazmd65:

    I would really like to see Vitters break through. You dont want to pay much for a guy who will only play vs. LHP, can only play corners (and not very well), and give you some occasional pop. If he can even be a .275/.315 guy with 10 HRs and fringe average defense, I'd take that right now in a platoon role at his low cost.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Exactly John - and the price would definately be right for Vitters.

    AND - if he has a good start to the season - he becomes a trading piece you can dangle to a team in a playoff hunt - assuming (and I do so assume) that the Cubs do not find themselves in a playoff hunt come July/August. Right now - his trading value is close to nil.

    Or - you keep him around as a cheap platoon corner OF, emergency 1B/3B guy and pinch-hitter until somebody better comes along.

  • Felzz, I love all your work, but you have outdone yourself in the opening paragraph. I am going to have residual laughs from that for at least a week. You deserve a bizarro-world Ford Frick award for "Young will be striking out and wearing a groove between Home plate and the dugout At Citi Field in disgusting Flushing, Queens".

  • Actually am quite glad Young will not be playing half his games in Wrigley. If the Cubs go after a FA outfielder NOT Curtis Granderson - I am thinking it should be either Corey Hart, or maybe making a play for Micheal Morse (if he is actually semi-healthy, although he is a defensive liability in the OF).

  • I didn't think this FO would go after the likes of Young, but it's a relief none-the-less. And please, dear sweet Jeebus, no no no no to Arroyo.

  • In reply to Pura Vida:

    What if Arroyo brings back the braids?

  • That opening paragraph is gold! Gave me a much needed laugh this morning. A thing of beauty, thanks man!

  • Glad you guys enjoyed it.

  • the picture is my reaction to the entire FA class this year Felzzy

  • Serious question here... How does being championed by some makes them armchair gm's but suggesting 37 Bronson Arroyo is better? I like Arroyo and dont get me wrong I wouldn't complain but aren't both of them similarly risky players? Except that Arroyo is seeking 3 years and wants to command more money.

  • In reply to Caps:

    We are all armchair GMs when it comes down to it :)

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    True, we're also armchair coaches, scouts and managers lol.

  • In reply to Caps:

    Exactly. Maybe I should try a Cubs Den fantasy league again, even though that isn't really like real GM'ing (thus, that's why they call it fantasy!) But it's still fun when I have the time to do it.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I think that would be a lot of fun. I'd be interested.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I would join the bandwagon.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Wanna make it GM-like? Make salaries count.

  • In reply to Matt Mosconi:

    Maybe. But if you really want to make it GM it'd have to be a keeper league where salaries count long term.

    Biggest issue for me is time. I'm going on vacation in February, so it would have to be after that.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    i am in a league like that right now, Keeper league , slaries / arb 30 prospect farm team , int draft / amatuer draft . ESPN scored , proboards ran . great 20 team league . Sorry the Cubs are taken tho :) PS I already trade Shark and got Taillon , Glasnow lol

  • In reply to Bryan Craven:

    Oh, I would take a really bad team. Could be Cubs, but not necessarily. They just have to be bad. That would be fun for me to try and turn around.

  • Young to the Mets,that's a big OKAY with everyone I'm sure.Thinking of trying to be competitive on a shoestring (bwahahah),how about signing Franklin Guttierrez as a platoon partner for CF with Sweeney. Maximum production for a minimum of money with better results I'm sure than we got from CF last year. Lake is better off IMO figuring out how to play left field.

  • I am actually disappointed that Chris Young signed with the mets on a 1 year deal for only $7M. I thought that he fit the front office's ideals in being an athletic outfielder who sees a lot of pitches. Signing him would have reduced the cubs reliance on Lake and Vitters as RH outfielders, improved the defense in the outfield, supplied power and speed to the lineup all without requiring a long term commitment. And in the event that he realized the potential he showed earlier in his career, he could have been traded at the deadline or tendered a qualifying offer. I don't believe any of the other free agent outfielders offer a comparable package for this manageable of a contract.

  • In reply to Greg Menke:

    See my comment before yours.

  • Love the Brandon Hyde bench coach move... Head of player development now down on the field... Good move, IMO.

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    Peter Bourjous is going to haunt us for the next couple of years.

    The White Vince Coleman! ( no he wont steal 100 bases a year, modern day version )

  • Been disappointing so far. Murphy, johnson, and young all fit the clubs needs. Screwd up my predictions too. I dont if their is an outfielder out there that is a good fit. Kazmir is hopefully the next target. Velocity is back and good k to bb ratio.

  • Yes and no on Chris Young.

    His "platoon splits" would have most likely been magnificent against lefties. However, I don't think he signed to be a role player with the Mets, thus, making this "most likely" a good pass on our end Cubbie wise.

    I think he could have been a good 4th outfielder, but for 8 million, I don't think that is the plan in New York.

  • John, I always appreciate your sanity and positive take, but Chris Young has had an OBP above .315 (his lifetime mark) exactly two of his seven full seasons. I think expecting or "hoping" for a .325 OBP is rosy, and even then and as much as I appreciate the importance of OBP, at .320 that is not close to good to balance out the .200 BA. Icky Bad!

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    Not even close to disappointed.
    I live about 30 minutes East of Oakland and saw quite a bit of Chris Young. That guy isn't even a shell of who he was.
    7 million dollars? We're better off with 2 years of Sweeney. I'd rather spend money on Ellis and Baker.

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