Sit on it. Brewers 9 Cubs 3.

The Cubs continued their art of being absolutely awful after a day off. The Cubs managed 3 runs off of Brewers starter Kyle Loshe. But Edwin Jackson went Humpty Dumpty in the 5th, giving up 5 runs, with big blows coming from Rickee Weeks and Jean Segura. Relievers Hector Rondon and Shawn Camp quickly poured gasoline on the fire and before you knew it it was a 9-3 thumping. Let's come in from the cold, come down from the wire....and breakdown.


Edwin Jackson went back to being bad, itchy Edwin Jackson again. 6 earned runs on 4 and 2/3rd innings. Jackson walked 2, including one to lead off that stinky 5th, and struck out one. Once again, Jackson had no pace, no rhythm, and while his pitches showed some bite, no consistency. While we know that win-loss record is a deceiving stat, Jackson's record of 3-10 actually is a pretty fair assessment of where he's at these days. I still believe he'll pitch better in the second half. But with the second half being very stress free, what will it really mean?


Hard to talk about today's game without talking about what happened before it. John touched on Marmol being DFA'd and Twitty McGee Ian Stewart taking his act elsewhere. But Dale finally gave Starlin Castro a day off. And Castro needs it. A whole wave of common sense whisking through the Cubs clubhouse. Brian Bogusevic more than earned his call up. This might be the tightening of the belt and straightening of the tie and making the Cubs as presentable as possible as opposing teams will be sending scouts around the Cubs often. Which brings us to....


Last year we tried to save one of the bullet points for rookies and young players. With the trading season upon us, gonna try and keep a running theme of what scouts saw during that night's game. While it's absolutely ludicrous to think that a player's value will go up or down with one single performance, scouting reports aren't going to be torn up and rewritten, there will be scouts in the stands and we should highlight what they will. Today's star was Nate Schierholtz. Nate delivered all of the Cubs offense with a 3 run home run. He also showed a good first step and good range in the outfield. So there won't be any AL bias with Nate. Wherever he goes, that team's d will probably improve.

This was the 9th straight loss to the cheddar heads. and something like 18 out of 21. And most of the losses have been of the El Kabong blowout variety. I'm interested to see how Starlin plays after the day off. And if Dale gives him another one. Scott FELDMAN!!!!  takes the mound for the Cubs (and in front of the scouts) against Brewers ace Yovanni Gallardo. Runs will probably be at a premium for the Cubs. So here's hoping the Amish beard is throwing rocks. Onwards.





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  • I think the most appropriate comment in response to this game is...


  • Amen brother.

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    Camp was a great addition last year, but he clearly either doesn't have the same stuff, or he was just overused. It is time to clear the decks.

  • In reply to Ray A:

    Agreed. Whether it really is that he was overused last year - or whether he is just another year older and his skills have diminished - Camp has been as predictably bad this year as he was predictably dependable last year.

    And I still haven't been impressed with Rondon. He's been more consistant than Marmol was - but that's hardly a glowing endorsement.

  • Clint Frazier, the 18 year old who was my favorite in this year's draft and the 5th pick in the first round by the Indians, signed for a reported 3.5 million. He had the best bat velocity in this year's draft and is an athletic center fielder with excellent hitting skills, awesome power, good speed, and a strong arm. In his first game last night for the Arizona Indians of the Arizona rookie league, he had 2 hits in five at bats, a home run and a triple, with 4 RBI's and no strikeouts.

  • Perhaps we should try Edwin Jackson in the "stopper" role now that Marmol is gone. Change worked well for Dennis Eckersly.

  • In reply to Roe Skidmore:

    I agree. Jackson's stuff and pattern of effectiveness would seem to make it a good option for using him, especially after Gregg goes.

    I would make him a 100 inning-a-year late-inning (7th, 8th and 9th) reliever, not a 60 inning-a-year closer.

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    Bold prediction: I think Kevin Gregg willl be a Tiger

  • In reply to Dale Miller:

    They ARE desperate for relief pitching, that's for sure.

    Porcello got lit up last night and the bullpen came in and added gasoline to the fire.

    I bet Jimmy Leyland went thru a whole pack between the end of the game and the time he got home last night!

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    In reply to Dale Miller:

    There's really not a whole lot to trade, though. Maybe a huge deal that involves Castellanos and Garza, but I'm not sure the Tigers would be willing to do that. They are all in for this year, I guess, so maybe.

  • man, is Ejax painful to watch, or what? he does not only pitch bad, he's sooooo slow. i thought that 5th innning was never going to end

    can we trade him?

  • 9 straight to the BREWERS. the only other bad team in the NL central and cubs can't beat them.

  • In reply to kansascub:

    It's very painful to watch the Cubs struggle against Central Division foes.

    Until they can start beating teams in their own will be a really long and agonizing rebuild to contention.

  • Well..... it took a few years of decline and a severe case of alcoholism to get Eckersly to convert from being a starter to a reliever. I doubt we're there with Edwin. But this was a discouraging start. No doubt about it. But the last couple of he had a brief run before this of being fairly good and the stuff is still there. He just needs a better mental metronome and I don't know how you do that.

    I think Gregg is gonna wind up a Red Sock. But we'll see.

  • In reply to felzz:

    Jackson is still young and has the arsenal for 2-3 good innings of relief. Relief may be his calling, he sure has failed as a starter this season.

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    In reply to Roe Skidmore:

    You are not going to send a guy you just gave 50+ mil to with a proven track record to the bullpen after a bad first half. End of discussion. You made the investment, you ride it out. Jackson numbers will even out by years end like always.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Thanks for moderating the length of discussion. We'll certainly give the consideration it is due.

    I happen to agree with the thought that Jackson may be very well-suited for a different role than a starter. He certainly hasn't been successful this year.

    So, if something's not working you're locked into it forever because of salary? Under that theory the Cubs would still have Marmol around.

  • Would love to see Gregg and throw in Russell to Detroit for Castellanos. If the Phillies hang on to Papelbaun, it's not out of the question that this deal happens.

  • In reply to Holy Cattle:

    The Cubs need pitching, pitching and more pitching. I would hope this trading season brings us pitching. Castellanos is a good hitter but probably below average in the outfield. We don't need him.

  • In reply to Holy Cattle:

    Russell has high trade value...look at what Sean Marshall brought us. Travis Wood has been great this year. Garza should bring up equal or better propspects than we gave to Tampa to get him.

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    In reply to Roe Skidmore:

    Disagree on Garza. There's no way we get a better package than we gave up for him because back then he had 3 years of cost control left. Nobody is going to give that much for a two month rental. Maybe last year but not now.

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    In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    If we do it right, they may turn out better, but only because every prospect they got but Lee appears to be a washout. (If Lee comes fully back, however, he could be very good indeed.) But, I completely agree with you, in terms of the present value of the prospects we get, it won't be close to what we sent.

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    In reply to Holy Cattle:

    If Russell gets us Castellanos, I'd do that, but I suspect Detroit will require more.

  • E-Jax has had consistency issues in the past. Though it seems he always pitched his best against us (we do make opponents look better, don't we?). Still this is very discouraging. Makes you wonder if the "suck" factor with this team is taking its toll on him. I guess Schierholtz having a career year negates that theory, but still.....

  • Glad that Castro got a day off, but to be honest, I think it would be more effective in the middle of a long stretch of games instead of a day after a day off in the schedule. Not saying I disagree with sitting him or even sitting him last night (I'm sure Sveum had his reasons) but just seems like a better spot to rest him would be in the middle of 12 straight games or something when he is more likely to be physically/mentally tired.

  • what is Dales aversion to small ball. is it he doesn't know how or is he always waiting for that 5run home run. lead off double then 3 straight outs. could have used one of those outs to get Rizzo to 3rd. then sac fly and its 6-4. what is the saying Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

  • I fear that the end of this season is going to be a repeat (or worse) of last year. After Feldman and Garza are gone and Jackson continues to be Jackson, who is going to fill out the rotation? Is Baker going to be ready? Our AAA pitchers don't look a whole lot better than the same guys did last year. I'm willing to accept another failed year, but only if progress is made for 2014 (and not just 2016 or later).

    I also disagree with the idea of making Jackson a reliever. With his contract, he has to start. Otherwise he'll be paid more than even Marmol was as a failed reliever.

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    I think EJax problems are 100% mental. If we made him a closer, it would only make it worse. He doesn't trust his stuff right now. Last night he had Lucroy on the ropes but instead of challenging him he nibbled and got hit hard. Nothing we can do now but keep putting him out there. Dale needs to treat a bit like a rookie-quick hook so he doesn't carry over the bad feeling. Sad that your big free agent signing needs kid gloves but the market and contract seem to really have affected him.

    I hope to see Bogusevic tonight.

    As for the trade market, I'd say the Dodgers screwed the pooch last year with the Cubs. Can't see us making any trades with them. Now the rumor is the Giants will move slow on their decisions.

    My two cents on Castellanos is that he's a stud. He's doing great in AAA and major league ready. If we could get him it would be a great move. Might take Travis Wood and Kevn Gregg or even Russell and Gregg. with Detroit giving us a pitcher.

  • In reply to Dale Miller:

    Assuming Jackson's problems are 100% mental, on what basis do you assert that making him a reliever would worsen his performance? Why couldn't it make him better?

    Pitching 110 innings in 80 games (over a season) may be much easier for him mentally than sitting around 4-5 days between starts.

    A productive performance in that role is worth more than as a rotten starter.

  • I'm not in favor of sending Jackson to the bullpen. This year is lost anyhow. He is young, cost controlled (although expensive) and he might as well get focused and start working these issues out.

    Next year, if we are contending, and he is a cog, sure, move him to the bullpen if you must. But, he just needs to trust his stuff and attack hitters. Really getting sick of seeing him think too much and nibble.

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