Cubs players in high demand on trade market.

Cubs players in high demand on trade market.

Talked with some industry people tonight regarding the Cubs and the upcoming trading deadline.

I was mostly trying to gauge the market for Matt Garza, after John discussed reports of several potential suitors for the Cubs pitcher. I'm hearing it would be an upset if Garza wasn't moved ahead of the deadline. I asked one NL talent evaluator (whose team has been mentioned as serious suitors) about their interest in Garza.

They like him plenty, but they do still have some reservations regarding his health. It turns out not everyone is ready to consider Garza 100% healthy. This particular team is looking to fill multiple holes. I of course asked if any other Cubs would be of interest.

“Many," he readily replied.

We already know that Garza, Nate Schierholtz, James Russell, Kevin Gregg, and Scott Feldman will receive plenty of interest. It seems to many in the league that the Cubs have the most attractive pieces to sell on the market.

A NL scout tells me Scott Feldman would make a real nice addition to the back end of anyone’s rotation. There will be much interest, and the Cubs are motivated to move him.

One team to watch with Feldman I’m told is San Francisco. Feldman apparently likes the Giants as a potential destination. Not that Feldman has any Ryan Dempster powers or anything. It could be a good fit regardless, as the interest is mutual.

The Cubs will have some decisions to make on just how much of sellers they are. There will be plenty of talk between now and the July 31st deadline.

From what I hear, a lot of it will stem from incoming calls to Jed Hoyer’s phone.

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  • 18 year old Clint Frazier had 3 more hits in 6 ABs with 2 more RBIs last night in Arizona Rookie League, now hitting .455 in 2 games with a total of 6 RBIs and 2 HRs.

    In the meantime, 22 year old Jacob Hannemann is hitting .219 in 7 games in Boise rookie league with 1 HR and 2 RBIs with 7 SOs in 32 ABs.

    And Yasiel Puig had 3 more hits in 4 ABs yesterday and is hitting .435. Dodgers are proclaiming him a superstar and saying he should be in this year's All-Star game.

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    In reply to shalin:

    Your point is........?

  • In reply to Cubs 27:

    I'm not speculating at this time, just giving you the facts.

  • In reply to shalin:

    So your point is that a high 1st round pick is better than a 2nd round pick?

  • In reply to ddevonb:

    Actually, Jacob was a 3rd round pick

  • What are chances he get traded before todays game? Every
    time he pitchs Worry something bad will happen. Trade any
    veteran who will get us at least 1 great/good prospect. Put in
    an prospect who does not figure in our long term plans

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    In reply to emartinezjr:

    I know exactly what you mean. I'm not a superstitious person. I realize there is an element of chance in everything. I think, over the decade, the Cubs have made most of their own bad luck with bad personnel and bad business decisions. Hell, my twitter handle, bbqgoat1968, is joke making fun of that particular curse. However, if Garza were to get hurt again before he could be traded, I might be forced into rethinking that position, in spite of everything I know to be objective reality.

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    Not that fast.

  • Unlike Paul Maholm, Scott Feldman is a journeyman pitcher who is having a career year. Keep up the great work, Tom, enjoy your posts.

  • In reply to shalin:

    Where they're similar is that they both hadn't realized their potential until they signed with the Cubs. Maholm is a legit #3 SP and is LH. FELDMAN!!! is a legit #4 RHP. Plus he's a rental vs Maholm had another year of control.

    We won't be landing a top prospect with medical ?'s for FELDMAN!!!... but he's a very valuable commodity for a contending team to have him in that 4/5 slot.

  • In reply to shalin:

    Thanks Shalin. Feldman should have some value I wouldn't sell him short.

  • In reply to Tom Loxas:

    I agree wholeheartedly, Tom. A career year for Scotty is a good year for many pitchers, so any team who is in the chase should give up something of value to get him

  • In reply to shalin:

    I'd rather have the year Feldman had in 2009 with a 17-8 W/L record that the "career" year he's having this year.

  • In reply to Moonlight:

    In 2009, Scotty had a 4.08 ERA, this year so far, 3.46. Career wise, he gives up more hits than IP and he does not miss the bat as often as you'd like, but hey, let's congratulate him for a job well done heading into the all star break. Didn't Scotty pitch half his games in 2009 on the road or were they saving him to pitch only at home?

  • I think Kris Bryant should get his as* in gear and sign for 6 million or less. He's a clone of Dave Kingman, with less raw power and arm strength, but a little better contact hitter, much more extroverted, and a little more athletic. Kingman started him pro career at 21 in AA ball in the Texas League and hit .295 in 210 ABs with 15 HRs and 41 RBIs, then the next year was in the Pacific Coast league where he hit .278 with 26 HRs and 99 RBIs in 392 ABs, finishing the season in the majors with the Giants, where he also hit .278 in 115 ABs with 6 HRs and 24 RBIs.

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    In reply to shalin:

    Feldman is a journeyman? The Cubs are only the second organization he has ever been with.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Michael, Paul Maholm was the 8th player chosen in the 1st round by the Pirates years ago and had a very good season in his last year with them before the Cubs shrewdly scooped him up in a team friendly contract last year. His lifetime major league ERA is 4.23 compared with Feldman's 4.67. EJax better start pitching well and soon, otherwise Cub fans are going to let him know about it, just like they did with Marmol.

  • In reply to shalin:

    I would not get to carried away with the difference in ERA between Maholm and Feldman. Maholm has only pitched in the NL without the DH. Until this year, Feldman has only pitched in the AL with the DH, which tends to make for higher ERAs for pitchers in that league. Personally, I like both pitchers. They are "thinking man" pitchers who don't rely excessively on velocity, trying to blow batters away. They actually 'pitch", mixing locations and speeds to confuse the batter. Picking up Feldman was just as "shrewd" as picking up Maholm. I am also concerned about EJax. Is it just me, or does it seem like most of his pitches are the same speed? Is that why he is getting tagged when batters are coming up for the 3rd time in a game?

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    You sold me on Feldman!

    So... tell me again why we want to trade someone like this for unproven minor league talent?

  • In reply to DetroitCubFan:

    ' cause Feldman is a FA at the end of the year. So you're either signing him then or you're trading 2-3 months of Feldmania to a contender, which the Cubs are not, for long-term prospects, which hopefully help the Cubs becomes a contender. Same with Garza. Of course, with Garza you can make him a qualifying offer at the end of the year, and if he doesn't sign, you get a compensatory draft pick.

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Feldman also pitched in Texas, one of baseballs more notorious hitters parks(see Hamilton, Josh for further emphasis). Id like to see what the Giants have to offer.

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Seems to me hes telegraphing his breaking ball. Look at the HR Molina hit off him last week, it was like Molina knew it was coming. Same with Monday, Its ridiculous Rickie Weeks cant hit anything other than Cubs pitchers who seem not to know how to throw an offspeed pitch(yes E Jax) without telegraphing it.

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    In reply to shalin:

    Journeyman typically defines a player who is well traveled, EJaxx for example. Feldman, like Maholm, isn't well traveled. I'm just having a small issue with the way you used the term, "journeyman." To me, it has nothing to do with where he was drafted or his stats.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Yeah journeyman to me seems like someone who played on alot of teams, either by trade, fa, or dfa. Can pretty much be described as a vagabond.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Here's the definition from Wiki and other dictionaries of journeyman:
    " Worker or sports player who is reliable but not outstanding."
    Big Mike, are you a former cop?

  • In reply to shalin:

    A major difference between Kingman and Bryant is BB to K ratio. Bryant's is improving each season, as opposed to Kingman's who went the other direction.

    BRYANT
    2011 33BB, 55K
    2012 39BB, 38K
    2013 66BB, 44K

    KINGMAN
    1970 37BB, 64K
    1971 32BB, 105K

  • In reply to Denizen Kane:

    Kingman played for USC in 1969 and 1970, not 1971, as a pitcher and hitter. He only had a grand total of 153 ABs in those 2 years, and you're trying to tell me that Kingman had a total of 238 BBs and Ks in those 2 year in college?.

  • It sounds like Theo/Jed sit in the driver's seat, a good thing since this ML team is going nowhere, yet has value to others. Things are going to get interesting pretty quickly.

  • In reply to cubs1969:

    Make the trades fast and wise. Because of the 40-man roster
    3 for 1, 4-2 trades will be hard unless we get very young prospects

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    Relax. The Cubs need to let the trades happen in due time. You can't force a trade. Those are the ones you regret. We are lucky to have Theo and Jed doing our deals. They will jump all over a good trade if it is there. If there isn't a good deal for us, they will walk away from the table (or hang up).

  • Thanks for the insight Tom. I'm okay with another sell-off. I just hope they get a good haul. We added some interesting pieces last year, but none of them have contributed diddly squat yet.

    Here's to hoping last years haul & this years are on the field at Wrigley in 2014. Probably 2015 before we're a .500 club and 2016 before we're legit....

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    I don't think it's going to be large scale. I think Russell would have to be huge return. Not sure how they view Nate. I'm checking.

  • In reply to Tom Loxas:

    I agree, Tom. Russell is young and very good, in his prime and hopefully stays healthy, and he should not be traded except for a truly great return.

  • In reply to shalin:

    Shalin---Totally agree. We trade him, we better get something REALLY GOOD in return!!!!!!

  • Anyone showing interest in EJax? Hehehe

  • In reply to lokeey:

    Don't think he's going anywhere. However I'm asking sources to tell me about any surprise availability.

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    If only the Cubs could get back half of what they gave Tampa Bay in acquiring Garza.

  • In reply to steffens:

    Chris Archer has great stuff, but he's almost 25 now and still has command issues, so the Cubs did ok in the trade for Garza.

  • In reply to shalin:

    I agree, shalin. Other than Archer, have any of the others amounted to anything? I don't think so, and I don't think they will. The book remains to be written about Archer. Fuld? 4th or 5th outfielder at best. The shortstop? I can't remember his name so maybe that says it best. Guyer? Nope.

    On the other hand, I wouldn't be disappointed if the Cubs kept Garza.

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    In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Hak Ju Lee is the shortstop. He was putting it all together in AAA when he suffered a serious knee injury earlier this year. If he comes back from that 100%, he could make the deal worth it for Tampa all by himself.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Hak-ju Lee hit .261 in AA in 2012 with a .954 fielding %. That doesn't rock the world. He did have some gaudy #'s this year in AAA before he was injured, but that was only after 15 games.

    I'll still take Garza over Archer and Lee.

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    In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    First off, forget the fielding percentage. Lee is a major league shortstop, and a gold glove one at that.

    The numbers really aren't the important thing about Lee at AAA. What was important was that he'd improved his approach, was swinging at better pitches, having better at bats, and the numbers reflected that. Much like Alcantara for us -- he was a better player this year before the injury.

    Now, the knee injury was quite serious. It's possible that he never comes back.

    The point isn't who is a better player, the point is that the Rays were losing Garza anyway. To get their shortstop for a decade for him was a pretty good move. The Cubs might still be able to get something of equal value for Garza. But, if they don't, they essentially gave away a gold glove shortstop for nothing.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Gold Glove? You don't win Gold Gloves at .954.

    15 games worth of numbers reflect a hot streak in AAA, not necessarily a major league shortstop.

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    In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Darwin Barney's fielding percentage as a 21 year old in A ball: .957
    Darwin Barney's fielding percentage as a 23 year old in AA ball: .949

    It's the minors. Ignore the numbers. He has a plus arm, plus range, plus hands, and plus instincts. He's a major league shortstop. A very good one.

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Mike, obviously Hak-ju Lee has not played at the MLB level, only MiLB. He is not a major league shortstop until he does. He's only a prospect until he does, and he may never get there. Baseball-reference is full of players like this.

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Tink, you do have to remember, minor league fields tend not to be major league quality., lots of uneven surfaces, bad hops, etc. Biggest stat for m e is range and arm strength to play the position. Lee had both.

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Agree, I thought that Hak-ju Lee was more of hacker than a future good major league hitter. Sorry for the pun. And I felt that Alcantara was the better prospect even before Lee's serious knee injury, much better hitter with the ability to improve his defense a lot.

  • In reply to shalin:

    From what Ive seen of Alcantara, the kid makes adjustments, has good hands, needs to work some on his footwork. Id compare him defensively to Aramis Ramirez when he was with the Pirates early in his career. Offensively, Alcantara is definitely better, especially as a lefty hitter. Will likely produce far better power #s than Lee. One thing the Cubs might consider is keeping Alcantara as LH hitter only. Loses his swing when he doesn't get consistent Abs RH.

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    In reply to Mike Moody:

    Agreed!

  • In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    Hak Juk Lee-has been hurt each of the last 2 seasons, b oth with season-ending injuries. Hes become injury-prone, so it seems he has little value for them right now.

  • In reply to mutant beast:

    But every .954 fielder in AA becomes a "Gold Glove" winner like Barney. LOL

    And if you want to base everything on 15 games in AAA, Lee's fielding % actually went down for those 15 games in AAA.

    Sorry, fellas, fielding % does carry some weight. If you can get to the ball, but you can't come up with it or can't make a decent throw, well, something may be consistently missing.

    The track record for middle infielders coming over from Korea, Japan, and China and making the transition to MLB just isn't that good. I don't see Hak-ju Lee as an exception.

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    In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    You're the only one here hammering on numbers. I talked about approach, you somehow read that as "His numbers were really good."

    You don't have to think he's that great, but scouts and prospect gurus put him well ahead of Alcantara entering this season. He's probably slightly ahead of him now. You're free to disagree with that -- but understand you're disagreeing with people that know a lot more than the two of us.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Yup, and every ballplayer on every so-called prospect list makes it to MLB. Tell that to Jackson and Vitters, that will make them feel good. Here today, gone tomorrow. They were both highly rated prospects who are now finding their way off the lists.

    I just don't believe in calling a minor leaguer a "gold glove" before he's played one MLB game in one of the 30 ballparks. I wouldn't call him a "silver slugger" either.

    Up here in Minnesota, the Twinklesticks had a middle infielder from Japan who won batting championships over there and was supposed to be a slick fielder too. He was supposed to be a "can't miss" according to the "experts" and "gurus". He proved himself to be neither a hitter nor a fielder on this side of the pond, and Nick Swisher proved that his legs were toothpicks as well.

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    In reply to Tinker Evers Chance:

    This is not asked sarcastically at all. What is your overall point?

  • I am hearing things are to happen pretty quick and once it starts it going to be like rapid fire.

  • In reply to KGallo:

    Any idea on when the ball might start rolling? As John said yesterday, do you think we could See them trade Garza perhaps after his start today to get the ball rolling?

  • In reply to Jamato:

    I think that after Nolasco is dealt is when we will see Garza moved and the ball starting to roll.

  • I hope the critics of Theo/Jed understand that the fact that we have the best trading pieces available is not by accident. This is exactly as it should go for a team that is rebuilding.

  • In reply to Holy Cattle:

    Like

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    looks like their early spending in the FA offseason is going to pay off very well after all, even though Baker and Diamond didn't pan out

  • In reply to NaughtyJohnny:

    The Astros, who are also rubuilding, have little if anything to trade and boost their farm with. It's like their rebuilding plan is based only on getting the top draft pick.

  • In reply to Holy Cattle:

    That's because they don't want to invest the money on players that can be flipped at the deadline. Probably to much risk in their opinion.

  • John and Tom and others what do you think about josh bell in the Pirates system? I would love getting palanco Heredia and bell for a package if we cant get any pitching thats close to the majors that Theo likes

  • Solar has a stress fracture????

  • Soler broke his shine bone.....he will be out for awhile.

  • Muskrat: #Cubs prospect Jorge Soler has stress fracture in left shin. Will be in walking boot 4-6 weeks. No Futures Game

  • I see Ald. Tunney wants the Cubs to reduce the size of the proposed signs and scoreboard....and does not want a hotel street walkover and no hotel outdoor patio...........Cubs say they will not give in......

    One of three moves will be made....

    - Cubs will have to give in on Tunney's demands.....

    - Cubs will have to pay off city politicians...

    - or the Cubs will move out of Wrigleyville to a new stadium.

  • I pick your third option. But what probably will happen is Rahm will intervene on the Cubs behalf and the Cubs will get what they need. Rahm wants that 500 Million dollars that Ricketts is dangling in his face.

  • "the Cubs are motivated to move him."

    I don't think that is accurate. They are willing to move him if the price is right. If they don't get a good offer, there is little motivation to move him.
    If he is moved it is because the demand is high and so is the offer that goes with that demand.

  • In reply to ddevonb:

    That's based on my convo...but thanks.

  • In reply to ddevonb:

    Im guessing someone will pay it. Pittsburgh, anyone?

  • Matt garza pitched a gem he gone hopefully

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