Cubs Notes: Cubs to Rosemont? Baker to get MRI, Edwin Jackson pitches a gem and a shout out for Cubs Den

We'll have to wait for the regular season for Felz's recaps but I thought I'd put up  another quick news and notes piece since it's been a busy Monday...

  • David Kaplan created quite a stir today when re reported that the mayor of Rosemont is willing to give the Cubs a parcel of land to build a stadium.  Said Mayor Donald Stephenson, "The Chicago Cubs are being held hostage by the neighborhood as they look to run their business. We are willing to offer them a tremendous opportunity if they are interested. Bring the bricks and the ivy and we can get a deal done.”  I'm not sure how serious this is.  I would think moving out of Chicago and Wrigley Field would be a last resort, but it seems that Rosemont is willing to go all out to become the new home of the Cubs.
  • Bad news for the Cubs today as Scott Baker felt some elbow soreness in his elbow and will get an MRI.  Baker was only at 85 mph yesterday after coming back from Tommy John surgery less than a year ago.  Meanwhile Matt Garza has yet to throw off of a mound.  Right now it seems possible both may be out until mid May and both may be put on the 60 day DL.
  • The good news on the pitching front is that Edwin Jackson pitched a gem, going 6 innings and giving up just 3 hits and 1 walk.  His last two fastballs were clocked at 96 mph.  Dave Sappelt had the big hit, a 3-run HR, and Javier Baez made the defensive play of the game, snaring a line drive at the top of his leap that was otherwise headed to left-center field.
  • Dale Sveum said tomorrow's lineup is likely to be the Opening Day lineup.  It is exactly the same lineup I predicted this morning.
  • Perfect Game analyzes the Sean Manaea vs. Thomas Windle matchup this past weekend.  They have great things to say about both pitchers but one thing should give the Cubs some pause:  Manaea hates pitching in the cold.  In case you've never been to Wrigley in's pretty cold.
  • A shout-out from one of our favorite radio guys, Matt Spiegel.  It's short but he enjoyed our breakdown of Javier Baez's swing.   You can listen to the podcast here.  The mention is between the 18:30 and 19:00 mark.

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    I had to miss the game. How were Javy's at-bats?

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Uneven. Not as good as yesterday. Had one particularly bad AB.

  • I can't see the Cubs actually looking at leaving Wrigley seriously, but I wouldn't be shocked to see more of these type of offers pop up, or also wouldn't be surprised if it was a ploy on ownership's part to nudge the city a bit.

    John, did you see the Reilly article about the Cubs and Wrigley this past week?

  • In reply to TheSinisterUrge:

    Here is the link, just in case anybody missed it:

  • In reply to TheSinisterUrge:

    the Rick OReilly article in which he claims the Cubs will never win at Wrigley, that they are losing $73 m/yr by being there, etc etc, etc. Typical snide NE sportswritwer.

  • In reply to TheSinisterUrge:

    I did see it.

    I do think it's partly a negotiating ploy. Maybe mostly that.

  • It is time to move. Chicago's mayor and Wrigleyville are unreasonable. Wrigley Field is a horrible place to watch a game. It is kid unfriendly, many bad seats, parking problems and run down. Build in the suburbs, get a new generation of young fans, play more night games, better parking, food plus a new atmosphere. This is 2013, it is time for change to secure the future of the Cubs. I would much rather watch a game at Miller Park than Wrigley. Kids like it better there, food is better, easy parking and no bad seat.

  • In reply to Craig:

    Peronally it's a bear to get to Wrigley for me. Takes 1 to 1 1/2 hours to get there by train. It's also a pain to get there by car because I'm not close to the 90. Still...I love the Cubs, so it's a sacrifice I make! I totally know what you mean though.

  • In reply to Craig:

    I'd take the opposite stance.

    I live in the city and love being able to walk to the games or just jump on a bus....never have to worry about parking or driving or any of that.

    The food has improved at Wrigley over the last couple years and I'd assume it would get better if they could renovate the concessions.

    I think there are more "bad" seats at Miller Park (not accounting for the roof on cold days). If you're in the top half of the upper deck if feels like you're a mile away. At Wrigley even row 8 in the 500 level feels like the 300 level at most places. As long as you have a feel for where the poles are you're fine. Then there's the Uecker seats at Miller Park...

    Everyone has their opinion but I hope they never leave the city.

  • In reply to Craig:

    Craig, I have to disagree with most every argument you are making. First of all if you really feel Wrigley is a horrible place to watch a game, then maybe you should become a Brewers fan. I have been to every ballpark in baseball and can tell you Wrigley Field and Fenway Park are the two greatest ballparks in Major League baseball and no one else even comes close. While teams are doing an outstanding job of building new stadiums, Wrigley and Fenway offer something that can never be duplicated. These ballparks have amazing character. I'm also trying to figure out how you think Wrigley is kid unfriendly? I've taken many kids to Wrigley Field including taking my 10 year old nephew to the season clinching double header back in 2003. It was an experience he will never forget. When I was a kid, I went to Cubs games to watch baseball. What's wrong with kids today if we can't entertain them with something as pure as baseball. If they are not actually interested in the game, why would you spend that kind of money on tickets? Also, If you are dead set on giving them something to do before the game, might I suggest taking them across the street to Sluggers where they have batting cages upstairs. There are many creative ways to entertain kids around Wrigley. I have yet to take a kid to a game while riding the Metra and EL, eating a hotdog and watching a ballgame only to have the kid say "this sucks". And if the kids you're taking do not enjoy it, maybe baseball just isn't for them. I have season tickets to Wrigley and live in Naperville. So my commute is not easy. But if I want to have a few beers at the game or afterwards, I can hop on the train and get home safely. I wouldn't have that option in Rosemont. I do agree that there are some seats at Wrigley that are not ideal, but I can assure you most any ballpark has some not so great seats. Yet as I've made my way to many of the older ballparks throughout baseball, I've grown a great appreciation to how well Wrigley was designed 100 years ago. It's made me realize just how lucky we are to have access to such a unique stadium. There is a reason it has landmark status. As Americans living in such a relatively new country, we tend to value "New" things far too much. Why can't we expose our kids to tradition and character? I'm also not sure what you mean by parking problems. I've driven to plenty of games and have never had issues with parking. Most of the time I park for free and walk a little. A little exercise never hurt anyone. Building in the suburbs will not generate new fans, winning will. And I'm not sure how you think they will make better food in Rosemont than they will in renovated Wrigley Field.

  • In reply to Ibleedcubbieblue:

    I Bleed & Cowboy- thank you, thank you for finally saying what i have tried to say many times but never took the time to detail it. i lived nxt to wrigley for 13 yrs b4 moving to bucktown. i love wrigley & feel the same way about fenway. so glad you said what you did while living in the burbs cuz it seems most everyone who calls for the CUB to move to the burbs lives there. Too bad if you dont like the travel - just like John said - if ur a true fan its worth it. GO CUBS

  • In reply to mditka:

    I disagree that being a "true fan of the Cubs" is equal to "not complaining about the many misgivings about Wrigley Field". Now, in and of itself, I love the scenery there as much as anyone. And, if you are fortunate enough to live near there, I imagine it is the ideal.

    But I am getting pretty tired of people holding up the hassle it is for everyone who does not live on the Northside as some badge of honor. Just like I am tired of all the fans who hold up the 105 years of futility as a badge of honor.

    Rosemont and Brad Stephens are a joke. But I wish I could go to more games, and it isn't because of the ticket prices, but it is the fact that one must invest an entire day to getting there. Because of the inaccessibility of Wrigley, for suburbanites and everyone else actually attending Cubs games are an Event rather than, you know, a Game, like it is in every other city.

    And that ain't conducive for high attendance figures.

  • In reply to Ibleedcubbieblue:

    Haven't been to a game at Wrigley since the year before I first moved out of the 'Region'. Was a game during the 1993 season. Good game - they beat the Pirates if I remember correctly.

    Used to love to go to games,.... even if getting to Wrigley could be a bit challenging - always managed to get to a game pretty much each Summer. Have been to games in KC, and DC (current home turf) near where I have lived outside of Illinois/Indiana,... but they are just not the same.

    I just can't mentally picture the Cubs without Wrigley,... where the ghosts of Jack Brickhouse and Harry Carey still ring true in my head.

    I hope they don't move,....

  • Can you list what level the top 10 picks are going to. Which
    ones should advance to another level by mid year.

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    Top 10 draft picks? I'll give you the current top 7 and what I think. Appel may go to A and reach AA by the end of the year. I think the other college arms -- Manaea, Gray, Stanek will start in low A. Meadows and Frazier would start in rookie ball. Kris Bryant would probably start at Boise and maybe move up to Kane.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I think the all would be in Ext ST for a few weeks first.

  • In reply to KGallo:

    Oh definitely. Every Cubs draftee does that. Just guessing where they'd go for their first league.

  • the cubs don't need to move; they only need a threat to move to be credible. i don't think there's any other leverage that would get the wrigleyville power players to compromise in negotiations.

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  • In reply to John Arguello:

    That ship sailed when Ricketts started buying up all the property around Wrigley. "Twas a big mistake to do that before you finalize the negotiations with the city.

    Tunney is an idiot, but now he holds all the power in the negotiation, and I'm sure he'll use it. This will probably require Rahm to intercede, which would have happened already except for the Super Pac whoopsy.

    Cubs aren't going anywhere unless Uncle Ricketts wants to flush about a billion greenbacks down the drain.

  • In reply to Cubswin4harry:

    not if the burb foots the bill to move the team in , sure short term Rosedale would be suckin hind but long term revenue created by the Cubs there would be a cash cow .

  • " thing should give the Cubs some pause: Manaea hates pitching in the cold. In case you've never been to Wrigley in's pretty cold."

    And perhaps more importantly, it's pretty chilly in October as well!

  • In reply to Pura Vida:

    Yes. Good point!

  • In reply to Pura Vida:

    You'd think for a guy that grew up in NW Indiana and has spent his college days in Terre Haute he'd have figured the cold weather out by now.

  • If Baker and Garza both miss 1.5 - 2 months, we're looking at a top 5 Rule 4 draft selection in 2014.

  • In reply to Eddie:

    Any in the top 10 are protected (don't give up 1st pick if sign a top FA)

  • In reply to Eddie:

    Probably. At least top 10. But if they miss 2 months then it likely means they're off to a bad start -- which means a lot of Iowa Cubs playing in August and September.

    Then again, if they come out of those first 2 months in good shape, it's a whole different story with those 2 coming in to give the team a boost.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I find it unlikely they'll come into June in any kind of good shape without those two. This team is built to win with pitching and defense, because they absolutely suck on offense. Take away two of your top 4 starting pitchers, and you're looking at a bad start, another veteran sell off, and another catastrophic end of the season.

  • In reply to Eddie:


  • They should move to team to Arlington Park.
    There is massive space right next to the racetrack.
    They can build a 50,000+ seat stadium.
    They can get every dollar of parking, restaurants, hotels,
    and maybe a future casino. This all can be done in partnership
    with the racetrack owner.

  • Did Bernstien really make a comment comparing Baez and Brooks Kieschnick?

  • In reply to lokeey:

    Bernstein's an entertaining guy, but his baseball opinion doesn't really carry much weight for me.

  • In reply to lokeey:

    Yeah...can't say I see the similarities there.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    no doubt, john. and you're right kyle, not much weight there at all.

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    I hope they do move to Rosemont. Screw the mayor! Screw the alderman! Screw the neighborhood!

  • Tom Tunney is beginning to look very bad here. It's past the point of fighting for the "good of the neighborhood" when he's impeding progress and possibly jeopardizing the property value, and more importantly, livelihood of his constituents. The area is called Wrigleyville for a reason (despite fmr Mayor Daley's efforts to rebrand it Lakeview Central). If you take the Cubs out of the area then nobody wins except the suburb the team moves to. Some of the bars / restuarants will do fine, but many will not. The rooftop owners will have some prime views for a skating rink or park or whatever occupies the space. The city will lose millions and millions of tax dollars and all the sudden once the police presence goes down the crime of Uptown starts to creep south. All this to protect a few of his buddies and claim that traffic and noise and WWIII will break out if the Ricketts family renovates (no word of increasing capacity, so not sure how that increases traffic) a city landmark and adds a hotel with their own money.


  • In reply to cowboy2024:

    This, I will agree to. Tunney is an idiot for all these reasons and more. Not that this makes him unique amongst Chicago Aldermen.

  • I don't think Chicago can afford to lose the Cubs anymore than Mesa could, but the threat to move needs to be real to work.

  • In reply to 44slug:


  • Windle's from Minnesota and played hockey for a good chunk of his youth, pitching in Wrigley in April shouldn't be a problem at all.

  • In reply to Jim Weihofen:

    Ha! True. Manaea is from Indiana, though. Just outside Valpo. He should be kind of used to Chicago-ish weather.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Yeah and I'd bet if you asked every pitcher, 99 out of 100 would say they'd prefer warm vs cold climate. Muscles don't stretch or loosen up the same when it's 40 degrees vs 70 degrees.....

  • Today shines a light on how foolish the city has been in playing such a dangerous game of chicken with the Cubs. It simply has been ludicrous. I found it refreshing a voice like the mayor of Rosemont called them out on it. It would be an utter disaster for the city to lose the team. Can't imagine Rahm sleeping to well tonight with this development.
    A case can be made that the proper business decision would be for the Cubs to move out of Wrigley to a new location. There are a myriad of advantages. I personally think they would sell more seats in the right location and the right kind of new park. I have spoken with people in Chicago in positions of influence, and they think the Ricketts plan has been to dump the park from day one. The Cubs franchise is the asset, the park is the liability. It is playing out just the way they wanted.
    I hope that at least it comes to light that under the current situation, the Cubs are basically forced to look for other options.

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    Question: Does it matter if Manaea hates the cold if the Cubs are playing in Rosemont with a retractable roof?

  • In reply to Demarrer:

    Haha! Great point ;)

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    Couple points on the stadium business.

    First, take anything Rosemont says with a grain of salt. The mayor runs the place like a personal fiefdom, and it's been mobbed-up for awhile. I have no doubt arms could be twisted easily to get stadium built, but no thanks to Rosemont

    My in-laws used to live on Alta Vista Terrace, right by Wrigley. If you move there, you have to know the stadium is there. They did, and they enjoyed it for awhile. Sorry for the neighbors, but if you don't like it, then move out; prices are high and you'll make a bundle. My in-laws did.

  • I think the Rosemont thing is a ploy, but moving should be an option. I love Wrigley, but for the amount of money Ricketts is willing to spend, a new, modern copy could be built in Schaumburg. I think if Ricketts & Co. put a few hours into a plan, with help of an outside committee, the pressure would be so great on the city of Chicago, Wrigleyville and Tunney, they would rubber stamp the proposal on the table.

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