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Cubs have 2 of baseball's best under 25

Cubs have 2 of baseball's best under 25

Well, yesterday was a rough day, so I decided to shut it down and rest.  It's done me a lot of good.  I think if this were a boxing match, I'd have won rounds 1-3, the flu won 4,5, I came back in round 6, got a little too overconfident about my health and then the flu landed a roundhouse in round 7.  But I'm back up and ready to go again...

Keith Law comes out with a fun list every year of the 25 best MLB players under 25.  The players are those who have exhausted rookie of they year eligibility.  Law describes these players as the players with whom he would start a franchise.

The Cubs have two players on this list.  Coming in at #8 is SS Starlin Castro.  Law seems to have a lot of the same feelings that we have here about Castro in that he thinks he'll eventually hit 20 HRs and while he doesn't walk much, he's not "clueless" up there.  He thinks he'll add another 15-20 walks as he continues to learn the strike zone.  What's also nice is Law thinks that if he doesn't improve at all, he's still a valuable player.

In that light, it's easy to see why the Cubs felt little risk in extending him this past summer.

The only other Cubs player on this list is Anthony Rizzo, who comes in at #18.  Law calls Rizzo an excellent defensive 1B who should hit in the high .200s with around 25 HRs.  One reason he's knocked down a bit is probably positional value (he is the top rated 1B), but Law also expressed concern for the way he lit LHP last year (.559 OPS).  However, Law really likes his ability to make adjustments and likes his chances to improve on that.

The Braves had the most players on this list with 4, while Washington had 2 in the top 5.  The Royals and Orioles also have 2 players on the list.

 

 

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  • I was starting to worry good to see you back.

  • In reply to Tom Loxas:

    Thanks. I probably got too cocky when I felt better and did too much yesterday -- even though doc told me to do nothing but stay in bed. I feel better again and I've learned my lesson!

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I can't wait until we get a pipeline of players coming up. Hopefully someday soon we'll have 4 players on the list. Maybe 2 in the top 5.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I was getting ready to switch my avatar over to that milk carton with your picture on it. Welcome back.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    HaHa! Thanks!

  • In reply to SFToby:

    I was a bit off center without my Cubs Deninator fix. Welcome back! Sorry you're having to deal with that flu. I hope that I miss that experience.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    Thanks. I hope you miss it to. I wouldn't wish it on anyone!

  • Seems to be going around. Lymph nodes under my arms have been swollen for days. :\ Do you have a link to the whole list? Not having any luck finding it on google and was curious who the four Braves are.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Probably on espn.com insider only.

  • In reply to Gerald:

    Thanks, looks like you're right. Oh, capitalism. Punching freedom of information in the throat daily.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8821510/mike-trout-bryce-harper-top-25-players-age-25-mlb

    It's an ESPN Insiders article. Really well written.

  • In reply to stork:

    Thanks. Just linked it in the article. Must be rusty as I thought I had done that already! Law's stuff is almost always well-written. He also doesn't show much bias toward one team or another.

  • In reply to stork:

    Thanks, I appreciate it.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    It's been crazy in Chicago, people have ended up in the hospital, so there must be people worse off than me -- I've heard stories of people with 105 fevers for as many as 10 days. Yikes. I guess I should consider myself lucky. One hospital, Northwestern, had to start sending people away.

    I just added the link to the article, by the way. Insider only.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Yikes indeed. 105 for 10 days is the official JAMA definition of zombie. Get well soon. Mine's just an achey thing, yours sounds like the full monty.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Oh, I'm not one of those 105 guys! I did have 103 for 2 days, though. I almost started having hallucinations of a Cubs World Series victory.

    Thanks. I really think I'm through the worst of it as long as I don't do anything stupid.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    If that's what it takes, please cough my way.

    ;>)

  • In reply to Good Captain:

    Looking to get out of work?

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    No, looking to come out of the WS w/ a Cubs win.

  • In reply to Good Captain:

    Haha! That would be worth the flu. Even if it just a hallucination ;0

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Did you by any chance record the WS games or at the least Cub highlights?

  • In reply to Moonlight:

    I should have. That would be fun to watch :)

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I definitely laughed out loud when I read this.

  • In reply to KSCubsFan:

    :^)

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I saw an article the other day that people are being advised to wear surgical masks to the hospital to protect themselves and stop the spread. These flu seasons seem to be getting worse and worse.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    That's a good idea. I've seen people with masks on even in the grocery store. After what I've been through, can't say I blame them!

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Proof of evolution.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Im Guessing Simmons and Freeman are 2 of them. Medlen might be a 3rd, considering how he pitched last year, I just don't know if hes under 25. Heyward is likely the other.

  • In reply to mutant beast:

    Heyward was near the top last year too it looks like. Just so one of them wasn't named Delgado.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Law likes Vizcaino more than Delgado. Will be interesting to see if the makes it in the next year or two.

  • In reply to mutant beast:

    3 out of 4 but the wrong pitcher, it's Craig Kimbrel.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Forgot about him. Guess I didn't think of him as under 25.

  • Let me guess-The Nats 2 are named Strasburg and Harper. BTW , John take care of that cold. The flu gets nasty in winter.

  • Surprised Mike Trout is not among the top 3... I'd have him #1.

  • In reply to Caps:

    Trout is #1.

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    Just curious but what are your feelings on the Nats OF Michael Morse? Seems like he could be a very good outfielder for the Cubs and is young. I don't know how much the Cubs would have to give up for him but do you think he would be a good fit if they made a move for him?

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    In reply to Scott Elisco:

    Morse isn't that young, he'll be 31 on opening day. Unless we trade Soriano, there really isn't a fit for him on the Cubs. Morse plays corner OF and 1b. He also has some problems on defense, which includes limited range in the OF.

    Nats supposedly want either a lefty rp or prospects. I wouldn't trade Russell for a 31 yr old on a 1 year contract. I'd want more long term pieces instead.

  • In reply to Scott Elisco:

    30, big bodied guy. Good power but more useful to win now team in OF. I think he'll have to move to 1B soon.

  • I think Morse would not be a good fit because: (i) he is not good defensivley and (ii) they need a right handed hitting CF. If they did get him it would make Schiehotz irrelevant. Of course, if either one can play CF, I would stand corrected.

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    In reply to cubman:

    I'm not looking at this season. I'm looking for him to possibly be playing LF in the future when Almora and Soler get here.

  • In reply to Scott Elisco:

    Too old. Morse really is a DH for an AL team. Good hitter, poor defensively, Prince is a better defensive 1b than Morse is. Team that should look into him is Cleveland.

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    Astros' top prospect Jonathan Singleton suspended 50 games for PED use:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130109/jonathan-singleton-suspended.ap/?sct=uk_t2_a5

  • In reply to Just Win:

    Wow!! Just saw him in AZ. I'm disappointed.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    He's claiming the drug was pot which, if true, is insane. Shame on him for knowingly violating the rules, but there's no good reason whatsoever to ban a player for its use.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Not sure how pot enhances performance...

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Maybe in a pie eating contest...........I'm just guessing.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Here's the story from minor league ball. Apparently "drug of abuse" is how pot is categorized. Not sure -- it's definitely what I'd say if I could get away with it and I *was* doing anabolic steroids.

    http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130109&content_id=40905232&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb

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    In reply to Mike Moody:

    haha.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Well, it does provide relaxation, and Dock Ellis once pitched a no-hitter while coming down from an acid trip. I imagine Dock felt wired but relaxed. Pot can also keep a person focused. I used to write code for a living, and my fellow programmers and I used to "get some air" at lunch time and we'd all get more quality work done in the afternoons than the mornings. I think pot would help an athlete more than the old greenies, which caused a lot of jitters and lack of focus.

    In reality the only way pot would help performance is if you were smoking it in the dugout. Or eating it beforehand.

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    In reply to SFToby:

    oddly enough, only minor leagues test for pot. MLB does not.

  • In reply to NaughtyJohnny:

    I guess that's why they'll be having so many high pop flies in Denver and Seattle this year.

  • Gotta love baseball! Selig gave tacit approval to juicers all those years when their HRs were bringing fans back to the parks, now he hands out 50 game bans for pot.

  • Yeah, hows that for a change in stance?

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    No kidding. Glad you're feeling better, John. Spring Training invites. It won't be long now.

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    On another note, MLB will start testing in-season for HGH.

    (this year they only tested out of season and in spring training)

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/mlb/news/20130110/mlb-hgh-testing-regular-season.ap/?sct=uk_t2_a4

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    Cubs signed INF/OF Brent Lillibridge and OF Darnell McDonald.

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/01/cubs-sign-brent-lillibridge-darnell-mcdonald.html

  • If either one can play CF and bat righty, there is our potential DeJesus platoon. They both had bad years last year, but worth the chance to see if they have anything left in the tank. If they can't play CF and don't bat righty, I don't see the purpose of signing them.

  • I should have added that I don't know their splits, but hopefully they can mash lefties.

  • In reply to cubman:

    Darnell has hit lefties well, Lillibridge has hit for power. Also has versatility. Interesting signings. I remember when Darnell McDonald was a top prospect. Can't believe he's 34 now.

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    It wasn't that long ago there wouldn't have been any Cubs on this list, and last year, there was just one. They're heading in the right direction, and maybe next year there will be three or four.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    It'll be nice to keep replacing them too as they "graduate" to age 26. Steady stream...

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