Winter Meetings Rumor Thread, Final Day: Rule 5, Grilli

Winter Meetings Rumor Thread, Final Day: Rule 5, Grilli

There was a bit of a frenzy this morning keeping up with the lightning quick Rule 5 draft.  For those of you who missed it, click here.  Even if you didn't miss it, check back as I did a bit more research on Cubs new RP Hector Rondon and added some information.  The Cubs also lost Starlin Peralta, as well as 3 other minor league players.

On with the FAs and trade rumors...

  • 11:46 AM:  Jason Grilli is re-signing with the Pirates.  Ending the thread here as that was the last player the Cubs were close to signing and it appears they are now on their way out of Nashville.  We'll keep track of the events, just not in thread form.
  • 11:16 AM: Nothing to do with the Cubs ( or maybe a little) here but interesting that the Twins have now traded both their CF'ers.  They traded Denard Span for top Nats SP prospect Alex Meyer. Now they've traded Ben Revere to the Nats division rivals, the Phillies.  RHP Vance Worley and top pitching prospect Trevor May are going to the Twins.  Interesting pick up for the Phillies in that Revere is a lot like a younger, cheaper version of Michael Bourn, who is now running out of suitors extremely quickly.  He may have to settle for that short term deal after all.
  • 10:00 AM: Yesterday I mentioned a source said to keep an eye on RHP Jason Grilli as the Cubs had serious interest.  That holds true today as Ken Rosenthal tweets the Cubs are one of three finalists on the veteran bullpen arm.  The other two teams are the Pirates and the Blue Jays.  Grilli has a 2 year offer and is close to making a decision.  Stay tuned.

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  • If Grilli signs with the Cubs, someone has to go off the roster.

  • In reply to CubsTalk:

    True. I'm sure the Cubs have decided who that will be already.

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    If he chooses a two-year deal from us over his hometown Pirates then 1 of 3 things happened.

    1. Cubs VERY desirable to free agents because...well....its the cubs

    2. We offered more money

    3. We offered a chance to possibly close, which would increase value for both sides.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Good point. Says a lot about the Cubs if they can get him over his hometown and a contender -- even if they do have to pay extra money, which I don't think they will.

  • Getting Grilli would be a nice plus for the Cubs. To me it says that Grilli liked the Cubs direction if he signs with them.

  • Phillies get Ben Revere from the Twins...might take them out of the OF market and definitely makes them less likely to be interested in Soriano.

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    In reply to North Side Irish:

    I.wonder if Worley or May was involved in the deal. Twins wanted pitching bad. Question is who plays CF for them now?

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Heyman says Worley...good deal for the Twins.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    sorry...that should've been Worley AND a pitching prospect

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    Worley and May for Span

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    P Vance Worley is the return for the Twins, according to one report.

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    In reply to StillMissKennyHubbs:

    Wow Worley and May for Revere. Nice pick up for the twins.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    Just saw that. First Span, now Revere. Who's in CF for the Twins?

  • Bombo Rivera?

  • Heard this from a baseball expert, and hard to believe but the Marlins will receive $128 million next season under the baseball revenue sharing program before the first game, even though the front office already got rid of their high salary players.

    Are the Cubs paying into or receiving under this agreement for being a large market team? It seems that certain small market teams that are not bringing in fans are taking advantage of this system.

    This is why I believe that teams like the Rays and the Marlins need to be relocated to larger cities to attract fans. The Rays were in the playoff race last season, and they could not draw people. In Miami, people came out to see Ozzie and the new stadium. Miami will have 500 people in their stadium this year on certain nights.

  • Span to Phillies takes away one of Bourn's big suitors too...

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    Looking more and more like Bourn may have to settle for short term deal. Still think original Cubs rumor was bogus though. Planted leak by Boras to drum interest. Hasn't worked, obviously.

  • The Twins did very well getting two top prospects and a major league ready arm for two decent, but expendable, center fielders. The Nats move must be more about a lead-off hitter than a center fielder per se. It will be interesting to see who takes Morse. Lots of questions about his swing and he is a minus defender in the outfield and at first.

  • In reply to RTGrules:

    The Twins really did a great job, especially with Revere. Goes to show you what even a decent young cost controlled player at a premium position is worth. I think Morse belongs in the AL.

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    Looks like Bourn will have to take short-term deals the rest of his career which is fine. centerfielders on the wrong side of 30 who rely on speed and no power whatsoever should not be given "best player on my team" type money. I've said this a lot, Bourn is a bad investment at any more then 2-3 years and is not worth 12-14mil a year. But were in a time where angel pagan can get 10mil a year so who knows what'll happen.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Very true. He probably could have easily gotten that deal and maybe a little more if he had your perspective!

  • MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors
    RT @Tom_Singer: Grilli:" I have not made a decision. I don't know where all these reports are coming frohttp://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2012/12/winter-meetings-rumor-thread-final-day-rule-5-grilli/#fb-comment-submitm, bit it's not helping me one bit."

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    Heard about that. Craig Calcaterra of NBC Hardball broke the story. I just reported it on the thread.

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    Bourn will probably end up in Seattle after they fail to get Hamilton. He actually should play well in that ballpark; Then I think the Cubs could swing something for Franklin Gutierrez to complete the OF for beginning of season.

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    In reply to Louie101:

    Possibly, but it sounds like Greinke is signing in Texas, who have supposedly told people they can't afford both Greinke and Hamilton both in the $25 mil per year range. Rangers trying hard to trade for Upton to replace Hamilton at a lower salary. If all that happens, Hamilton likely signs in Seattle. So where does that leave Bourn? Most likely on a short term deal, but with what team?

  • In reply to Louie101:

    I can live with that.

  • i think the revere trade could probably work in the cubs favor. the phillies still need a right handed bat to put in the middle of their lineup and dominic brown becomes even more expendable at this point. lets make this trade happen!

  • In reply to jshmoran:

    That thought crossed my mind too but it looks like they're after Michael Young. Not sure what people have against Soriano. They're willing to take on an overpaid, poor defender like Young over Sori?

  • John,
    They need to hire one of you guys at ESPN. Levine and this new guy Rogers can't right a straight story to save their lives.

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    In reply to KSCubsFan:

    Jesse Rogers had covered the Blackhawks for ESPN for a few years. He's a decent guy but far too friendly with the players to ever be critical, or even non-biased in his reporting. It might not start that way with the Cubs coverage but it will show up quickly.

  • In reply to KSCubsFan:

    Haha! Thanks. I don't know Rogers well because I'm not a huge hockey fan. Levine hasn't been very accurate this offseason at all.

  • also the braves arent trading profar or andrus, the braves arent trading simmons, maybe the dbacks will overpay for darwin barney because they are aggressively seeking a solution at short.

  • In reply to jshmoran:

    I like how You think JSH

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