Cubs to sign OF Nate Schierholtz

Cubs to sign OF Nate Schierholtz

Well, was working on an aritcle and missed this one.

The Cubs got their outfielder and he's a good fit in that he hits LH and plays solid RF defense.  He's not a walk machine but he does have  some on-base skills.  What he lacks is power.  He's a career .270/.319/.409 hitter.  Against RHs last year, however, Schierholtz hit .287/.358/.413, so the Cubs can maximize his production by platooning him, probably with Dave Sappelt.

The move guarantees that David DeJesus will indeed stay in CF but with solid defense in both corners, the Cubs can help mitigate the effects DeJesus' below average defense there.  It's not an ideal situation, but not a bad signing under the circumstances.

Schierholtz signed a one year deal for $2.25M with 500K in incentives, so if Jackson is ready, it won't be hard to transition him to 4th OF'er status.  He also has value in that he can back up Anthony Rizzo at 1B.

Schierholtz was the Giants #4 prospect in 2008 and the #8 prospect in 2007.

In 2008, Baseball America wrote this,

For a player with 30-homer potential, Schierholtz makes excellent contact. His strikeouts have dropped from 132 to 81 to 77 over the past three seasons as he has leveled out his lefthanded swing. He plays a strong right field and has an above-average, accurate arm. He's a good runner for his size if not a pure basestealer. His body is all sculpted muscle.

Obviously the power didn't develop but much of the rest of the report has held true.  He's a good defender with a plus arm and makes solid contact at the plate.

He was on the back of my mind but it was a bit of a surprise for me. I didn't mention Schierholtz at all this offseason.

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    Good fit for the Cubs, and definitely not on any of our lists. :)

    I like the deal. He's probably not going to hit 20 HR's, but at that price on a one year deal he should be easy to flip if they want to at the deadline. I also read he's arbitration eligible for 2014, so we control him for two seasons if we want.

    Now if they could either bring in a 5th OF who can also hit lefties then we should see DeJesus sit vs LHP like he needs to. Otherwise, I'd rather see them try Shierholtz out vs LHP and see how it goes with Sappelt playing CF vs. LHP.

    Shierholtz actually has reverse splits vs LHP in his career, albeit a much smaller sample size than vs RHP.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    He did hit RHP really well last year, though. Possible that he and Sappelt could put up good combined numbers in a platoon. Both are solid defenders too.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    I'm not excited about seeing either Dejesus or Schierholtz against LHP. Their 3-yr splits over the past three seasons:

    vs LHP
    DeJesus .192 BA, .284 OBP, .534 OPS
    Schierholtz .230 BA, .271 OBP, .552 OPS

    Reed Johnson hasn't signed with anyone yet has he? How about a DeJesus/Johnson platoon in CF and a Schierholtz/Sappelt platoon in RF?

  • In reply to WSorBust:

    I'll take Reed Johnson as an extra OF anytime.
    He knows his role and is a gamer when called upon.

  • Looks a like a good platoon partner to go with Sappelt. Hit Righties fairly well last year. I like it.

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    And the NHL has just scheduled a press conference, it looks like we have a deal.

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    In reply to Just Win:

    And it looks like that NHL report is wrong as usual. Dammit.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    My wife was all excited. She's a huge hockey fan.

  • Lets sign Delmon Young now for another platoon. He smashes Lefties and when Jackson is ready, we move Sori so CF platoon just moves to LF....

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Head case and he's absolutely hacktastic and an atrocious defender. Can't agree there.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    He hit .308 .333 .500 .833 vs Lefties

    He is a head case though I thought I read he's matured a lot since that incident in NYC?....

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Those are good numbers but I don't see him as a Cub, even if he's matured. I think if the Cubs are to pick up another OF'er, it'll be someone who can play a good defensive CF to sub for DeJesus. Maybe Torres is still a fit as a defensive replacement.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Amen. I saw him in Minnesota and that is an accurate assessment. His day of glory was in the ALCS; don't expect anything but disappointment from Delmon.

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    posting this again here bc I want opinions and i'm sure people are going to flock here now.

    Good value signing. The guy has never gotten a chance at 500abs and was once highly regarded. Could be this years Josh Reddick…..if even a poormans version. Will give you more power/slugging than Dejesus.

    Bold prediction: I think if the cubs see enough out of Brett Jackson in spring training they could trade Dejesus earlier rather than later. Even now, if you compare Bjax and Dejesus as center fielders

    defense in CF – Jackson
    power – Jackson
    arm – Jackson
    plate discipline – about equal/maybe slight edge to Jackson
    contact rate/average – Dejesus
    speed – Jackson

    As you can see, Jackson is the better player right now and i’m not even considering what adjustments he’s made but Sveum and FO are still high on him. And this just in: If Dejesus is traded, Hosierdaddy promises to take care of Kim while he gone. Win-win for everybody lol

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    In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Also this move is getting bashed around baseball. It saddens me to say this but i'm starting to think majority of cubs fans will find any reason to hate whatever the cubs do and want them to do what isn't smart. It's almost like fishing for reasons to be angry.

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    In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Around baseball of by Cubs fans?

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    In reply to Mike Moody:

    OR by Cubs fans

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    In reply to Mike Moody:

    A little around baseball and alot by supposed cubs fans.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    I'm not surprised by that. There's a line of thought that thinks the Cubs have money so they should spend it, regardless of if it provides good value. I don't agree, of course.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a platoon of Schierholtz and Sappelt outproduce some of the second tier FAs out there. Would love to see it.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Exactly John. These are the same people clamoring for Bourn, Sanchez, Victorino and all these big impossible trade scenarios that don't make sense and get pissed when what they wanted doesnt happen. Numerous times i've seen posters say "i'll be upset if cubs don't make any good moves this offseason" or "I'f the cubs don't make a monster trade TODAY then they will auto lose 100 games"

    just unreasonable crap. I wouldn't care if it was 1 or 2 people but this seems to be the norm for cubs fans. We're the exception.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Yeah, man. It's ridiculous. People complaining that the Cubs don't want to spend and when the FO does spend they complain about the quality. People complaining about signing Baker because he just came out of TJ or signing Feldman because of a bad ERA. Now it's about Schierholtz give me a break.

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    In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Dunno what you're talking about. If Theo were a good GM he wouldn't be signing Bourn, Victorino, and Sanchez. He'd be signing Hamilton, Greinke, and Sanchez. Trade Baez, Vizcaino, and Soler for Chase Headley and we'd win the World Series this year. That he isn't means the Ricketts are cheap.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    And signing Hamilton, Grienke, and Sanchez and trading for Headley would guarantee a World Series....you might want to ask the Angels and Marlins fans about winning the off-season and how it felt to not even make the playoffs, when they felt they won the off-season last year.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Agreed Marcel,

    IMO - pretty much everything I have seen them do this offseason has looked like a good long-term move. Not overly thrilled with the signing of Navarro - but even that could turn out well enough if he hits above his body weight.

    No albatross contracts. Many good short-term signings that have value both directly for filling a need for next season, and/or that can be flipped for prospects come mid-season. No bad actors or bad clubhouse personalities added.

    The team next year (other than the question marks that remain at 3B) other than not having a lot of power, and still having some holes (but not as many) in the Bullpen looks like it could be good.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Marcel, check out the comments on MLBTR in the "Cubs to sign Schierholz" story. This signing is overwhelmingly approved, especially by Giants fans. Yes, there are the usual "we want the Hendry days back" bozos, but lots of good posts on Nate's arm, glove, speed, mental makeup, and bat.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    I am working the phones for Theo/Jed trying to find a home for DeJesus! lmao.............

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    I agree that's potentially the case, but Jackson has to hit for any of that to matter. I'm encouraged by the improvement in his swing, but I'm reserving judgment until he performs in regular season games.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I understand this. I'm a little more optimistic that he won't strikeout as much now. And even when he did he still showed enough on the field that i'd carry him right now but that's just me.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    I hesitate for two reasons:

    1) DeJesus' one advantage is contact rate, but isn't it WAY better? As far as I could tell, DeJesus was generally a solid (or at least solid enough) all-around player last year. Jackson was a great defender, decent speed, etc., but his contact rate/average was reeeeaaally dragging him down.

    2) I don't know the plate numbers, but I support the front office's stance on getting 500 at-bats in the minors. Jackson very well may have passed that already (I don't recall), but either way I don't mind him getting more seasoning in the minors before he's reasonably polished and totally ready for the bigs.

    With all of this said, it sort of misses your point about Jackson's improvements in the offseason. If he's truly totally changed his swing for the better and lights things up in spring training, then absolutely, bring him on board at the start.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Up yours Marcel!!!!!!

    I respond to your every comment. I put in a box score link for you. And when it comes time to parceling out Kim Dejesus duty you give it to frigging Hoosier Daddy?!@!??!??!?

    Show a white boy some love........

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    In reply to felzz:

    LOL! my bad Felzzy, I forgot you had first dibs on Mrs. Dejesus. I'm sure she'll like having her name in just about every recap lol

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    just win, link on the nhl rumor?

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    In reply to RY22:

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Someone-to-Say-Something-Updated-1005/1/47815

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    Way better signing than Jerry Mathers as the Beaver!!!!

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    Solid signing. Definitely a better player than Mathers.

  • Is it me, or has Theo & Jed been watching too much of "Moneyball" ?

    This roster will be changing throughout the 2013 season once again.

  • John, there are some things to be excited about with Schierholtz... I don't know if you noticed his career splits, but he has 6 hr's at AT&T Park vs 18 on the road... We know AT&T Park has wide gaps and it could be hard to hit hr's unless you pull it down the line in RF... He also has a career .514 in the minors and he'll be 29 next season, so there power is there, he could be a late bloomer and he could take advantage of not playing so much at AT&T Park... But at the very least, he's a nice platoon kind of guy at least for half of a season.

  • In reply to Caps:

    Good point Caps.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Yeah, btw, I meant to say a career .514 slugging % in the minors lol, but I know you got the point.

  • Dempster turned down 2 year / $26 million offer from the Royals.......

    Brewers refuse to give Dempster 3 years....

    Red Sox last one looking at Dempster.......

    Sometimes you have to wonder what ticks in a mind of a 35 year old pitcher who lost 3-5 mph off of his fast ball....

    Where are the Dodgers, Ted & Ned for Dempster these days?

    Just think of this....Dempster turned down more money from the Royals than what Ernie Banks, Billy Williams and Fergie Jenkins made in their entire baseball career.

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    Affordable Short term assets now to be traded over course of 2013: Marmol, DeJesus, Feldman, Garza, and now Schierholtz.
    With costs of FA SP rising wouldn't mind a 5/80 extension for Garza in Spring Training if he is healthy an amenable.
    Would like the infielder from Japan next to platoon with Valbuena at 3rd.

  • In reply to Louie101:

    I like Valbuena - good defense and knows how to take a pitch now and again.

    But yes - a platoon patner for him would be a very good thing if the can find one that doesn't break the bank.

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    Hopefully BJax forces the FO hand and comes up at end of May. Then see what Soriano or DeJesus can net.
    Excited to see progress from Cabrera as SP, healthy return of Vizcaino and growth from Vitters and BJax.

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    Good signing today. The odds are decent that Schierholtz could outperform the contract, and if not, they didn't spend that much.

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    I think many of us thought Cubs would go for a 1-year signing in CF, like Nyjer Morgan or Andres Torres. But Schierholz is a better offensive option than either of them, and the fact that he topped 15 HRs 3 times in the minors gives hope that maybe he can hit a few more HRs.

    He has a similar skillset to Fukudome; advantage being he doesn't cost $48mil.

    Given that we have some OF options coming up through the minors, it's probably the right idea to sign a short-term contract right now

  • In reply to Zonk:

    Would still like to see the Cubs sign Torres. There's not really a good defensive CF if Jackson starts in AAA and Torres can spell DeJesus vs. LHP.

  • Just read that Cashner cut his throwing hand while hunting......out for three months..........next time, when Andruw needs meat, he should just go to meat dept at a local food store instead going out to kill Bambi.....real big game hunters are those who kill a charging rhino or a lion out in the open fields of Kenya.....not a guy who hides in a camouflage tree tent house drinking beer and shooting off their friends ear with a shot gun blast.

  • In reply to CubsTalk:

    The guy is cursed. Such a great arm and can't stop getting hurt on and off the field.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I think I heard Josh Byrnes curse from 10 miles away.

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    In reply to CubsTalk:

    That trade looks better all the time, and it was looking great already.

    I remember Clint Barmes had a hunting accident, and missed significant time; can't remember the details, but this has happened before

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    The Cubs 40-man roster, once Fujikawa and Schierholz are added, stands at 39. That leaves only one slot left, and Cubs figure to make a Rule-5 pick, so you have to figure another player or two will be DFA'ed to make room.

    I wonder if this signing is the end of Tony Campana on the 40-man; he doesn't seem to figure in any long-term plans

  • In reply to Zonk:

    Came with that same thought on Campana.......guy has value....I believe if a everyday third basemen comes into play, we might also see Valbuena gone........look for a minor deal to happen.

  • In reply to CubsTalk:

    Valbuena has value as a good defensive LH hitting utility infielder with some versatility. He may not be a true starter, but he's useful.

    Campana can run...and that's about it. It's a luxury on a team that has so many holes. If he could defend, maybe they could keep him. I just don't see how right now.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Third base is an offensive position....if Valbuena is not producing runs, what use is he?........like Campana, he runs, but needs to get on base........it seems that Ian Stewart has the Cubs right here he wants them......or does Theo throw the dice on Lake to open the season at third?.......I would go with Lake.

  • In reply to CubsTalk:

    Was talking about his value as a utilty guy if Cubs get starting 3B. As starter, value is all in his defense, maybe in abiilty to grind out ABs, but should be a utility guy. Doesn't run well, by the way. The point is though, that if you get a starter, Valbuena has value off the bench. Campana doesn't.

  • In reply to Zonk:

    are you talking about when Clint Barmes hurt himself carrying deer meat up the stairs? always thought that was a hilarious lie.

  • I see Campana not making this club for 2013.

  • Love this signing! I agree with Michael, Schierholz has an excellent chance to outperform this contract. Had hit for decent power in the minors, and hasn't played a full season since his call up. Highest OPS came when he got his highest number of ABs. Also I wouldn't doubt he altered his swing/approach a bit playing in SF.

    Between SF, SD, and LA...100 of the teams games were in 3 of the worst HR parks in MLB. A switch to Wrigley and the NL Central should definitely boost the power numbers. A good defender in those huge parks should also equate to an excellent defender in the smaller ones as well.

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    I really hate that people whether it be nat media or the ignorant sect of our fanbase that can't see the big pic here and rip this signing...Now is the time for reason

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    So glad we have this community here that gets it! (Though I don't want to call the group that disagrees "the ignorant sector')

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    John, we are very fortunate for both yourself, Tom and Felzz and everyone on this site....we are both a knowledgeable and realistic division of the Cubs fanbase....

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    In Schierholtz' career his home/away splits are interesting:

    Home (mostly at SF): 612 AB's, 6 HR 65 RBI .263/.317/.392
    Away: 663 AB's, 18 HR 58 RBI .276/.320/.424

    Looking at his hit chart, he was pretty much a dead pull hitter last year. I can't find a hit chart for his career but I doubt that's changed much. When we signed Theo he said that the stats show the ball carries to RF more at Wrigley, so lefty pull hitters should do well there.

    Could be a nice fit for the Cubs and more productive then we're all thinking on first look.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    Great stuff JW. I'm pretty sure Theo considered that as well.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    Dead left handed pull hitters do not fair so well early season in Wrigley.

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    In reply to Just Win:

    Bobby Murcer cried about all his warning track fly balls to RF when playing here. The only LH hitter who took advantage of when the wind was favorable, was Billy Williams. The foul line in RF is what 355/356 feet not exactly a cheap home run shot.

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    In reply to TheRiot2:

    True, but the foul line in LF is about the same. I'm just saying one thing Theo said early on about finding what factors your home park favors and finding ways to exploit them.

  • We sure he's platooning? Career, Schierholtz is much better against LHP: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=schiena01&year=Career&t=b

    Maybe they're thinking about playing him full time to build some value and just use Sappelt off the bench. Full time makes more sense as far as the incentive clauses too, depending on what they are.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Could maybe play Schierholtz full time and use Sappelt in CF against lefties, since DeJesus can't hit them.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    If Soriano isn't dealt, I bet that's how it'll play out.

  • John

    in response to M.Moody, who said if we trade Soler, Baez, and Viscaino for Chase Headly,we would go to the world series this year.

    I'm 65 years old, have read read many blog opinions, and this one is the craziest.

    John, please respond so I can come back to the real world. My head is still spinning.

  • In reply to rakmessiah:

    He was kidding. Moody seems like a smart, sensible guy (who also happens to be a jokester sometimes).

  • In reply to rakmessiah:

    Haha. Sorry, was frantically trying to maintain blog and have Rule 5 stuff for tomorrow. Anyway, glad that mosconml was able to help out ;)

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    In reply to rakmessiah:

    That's on me. It really needed a hint that I was kidding. Sorry for the confusion.

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    I,m not saying,just sayin,remember Jim Hickman ? In his age 32 thru 35 years he was a power hitting outfielder with the Cubs 1962/65, before that he was not a highly regarded outfielder, and everyone pi$$ed and moaned when the Cubs acquired him. Not going to say Schierholtz will put up Hickman numbers but I'm content to see what he brings to the Cubs.

  • Well, I don't want to be the turd in the soup, but I give this signing a full fledged "Meh".....

    I see the numbers and they all seem to make sense. And he's left handed and his defense is better than average. But this guy has had 37 chances to win a full time gig in the SF outfield and he never did. Plus this makes Dejesus a full time CF. And Dejesus plays CF like he's being swarmed by bees...

    Was there a market for this guy? Like could we have tried to sign someone better and signed Scheirholtz as a backup plan. I don't know. It seems to me like Theo and Jed are looking at the OF and 3B openings as chores that need to get done and not as opportunities to take advantage of. Like we can check the dry cleaners off the to-do list and now hit up the Trader Joes.

    I get it. He's a one year guy. And somewhere there's this pipe dream he could pump up his value and we can trade him for some AA halfwit that will get everyone excited.
    And as a guy who thought we were signing a Nate McClouth, I should look at it as Schierholtz as younger, faster and more powerful than McClouth. But I'm not.

    I don't know. I'm just left totally indifferent by the whole signing.

  • In reply to felzz:

    Rays and Yankees were making big pushes to sign him. Was actually getting a fair amount of attention.

    He is a better player than McLouth, as you said, but I can see where he leaves some people wanting more. Maybe the Cubs see something in him and think he can break out and get at least a little closer to the potential the Giants once thought he had.

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    Can't wait to see what Felzz does with Nate's last name in recaps, its as hard to spell as Samardsahdhajitioja if your not already looking at it lol

    I can see it now lol

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    That's a pretty narrow minded statement you just said there. It's pretty ignorant to call everyone who does not agree with you a part of the "ignorant sector." With the draft and International draft now being capped, we only have a small advantage of building the farm than other teams at the expense of being terrible. Why can't the Cubs have a normal payroll for their market and build the farm and compete at the same time? And what is this pig picture you speak of? There is no guarantee this small market strategy will work. In fact, if we had time I can argue that it is probably the worst strategy of all the choices. The only person that truly benefits is Ricketts.

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    In reply to gutshot5820:

    I'm not calling people who disagee with me on the Cubs ignorant..I'm just stating a fact, this organization in years past was built foolishly for the most part and that's why we've never won... Lots of Cubs fans demand that Mr Ricketts and the Tribune/Zell before him spend like a big market team in order to compete every year and that's all fine and dandy but if you have no foundation of young talent and depth, it's all for naught...Gunshot, look at the Yankees between 1981 and 1994, they we're mired in a long slump because they traded almost every prospect for quick fixes and veterans..They were able to rebuild the system under Gene Michael, Bob Watson and Buck Showalter during George Steinbrenners 3 year exile from his team,,They built the Yankees the proper way and kept kids like Jeter, Riviiera, Posada, Pettite, Bernie Williams while trading vets like Roberto Kelly for the young Paul O'Neil and they got Scott Brosius and Girardi cheap as well, once they got close they hit the market again with guys like Wetteland, David Wells and David Cone and Boggs and won for a good stretch..The Red Sox too, same principle... The "ignorant sector" of Cubs fans that I mentioned refers to those guys who want to pretty much go down the path like Jim Hendry was forced to take and down the path the LA Dodgers are following now..This team hasn't had a proper rebuild in decades and it shows..I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that but the time will come when Theo and Mr Ricketts will open the purse strings and that will be when they solidify the system and we start seeing young kids contribute on an annual basis and it's coming...The path chosen has to be followed and the Cubs organization will benefit from this greatly and as fans we'll see something we've never seen before and all the benefits that come with it, like a ring!!!

  • In reply to gutshot5820:

    Calling it an "ignorant sector" is wrong I agree. It's just a different viewpoint. One that I don't happen to agree with, though.

    I've seen a lot of arguments as to why the Cubs should try to build on the fly but haven't seen a convincing one yet. There's nothing that says paying big money to FAs (from a mediocre class at that) is any better than going with guys who provide slightly less production but give more value and flexibility for the long term.

    The fact is some team every year wins without spending. The Padres turned things around and won 90, the D'Backs won 100, Oakland and Baltimore made the playoffs. There are more efficient ways to build a team than overpaying FAs.

    What you're paying for in many cases with FAs is past performance and a premium for name value. That extra money spent isn't proportional to the amount of wins it will buy.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Sorry John, maybe I should call it the "stubborn sector"...that being the group Cubs fans who want immedite satsfaction by expecting Theo to do the same crap Hendry, Frey and Himes did to win a ring when all it does is fill a few holes on some very flawed teams that leave us crying in the end anyway...I keep strssing the 1990's Yankees...great base, great trades and THEN go shoppin gto your hearts content!!!!

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    Haha. I'm equally stubborn with my viewpoint :) I'm willing to be convinced otherwise because right now I'm just not seeing how it helps to sign decent players to long term superstar dollars. I don't see the big gain in the win column and I see payroll issues on the horizon.

    But, like I said, I'm willing to be convinced. If someone has a convincing argument, they can email me and I'll post it as a guest post/reader post.

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    In reply to gutshot5820:

    Gutshot, this team needs impact talent, if you field a flawed team that finishes over 500 but not good enough for the postseason, you could easily kill your draft staus by droppig out of the top 10 where soem of ht ebest talent lies...Small market strategy has a better chance of working when a team like the Cubs employs this method because ultimately, unlike most small market teams, the Cubs can retain their talent and outspend anyone else when close to getting over the top...Have faith

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    In reply to gutshot5820:

    "With the draft and International draft now being capped, we only have a small advantage of building the farm than other teams at the expense of being terrible."

    There's an important flaw in this thinking. If the Cubs goal was to be terrible, Theo is doing a horrible job of it. At the end of last season, he'd struck that important balance of non hitting and zero starting pitching that led to a nose dive in the final months of the season. So, if we're trying to lose for draft picks, why isn't the starting rotation this year the same as the one that closed last year? We could have had Germano for a fraction of what we're paying Baker.

    If you look, what Theo has done is put together a team with decent -- potentially great -- starting pitching and solid defense. That's the game he's trying, while keeping the roster flexible so, if need be, he can dump everything at the deadline, bring in more long-term assets through trades, and subsequently get the best pick he can. But that's only if things go badly -- but the team is not build to suck. If you don't believe that for any other reason, consider this: you can't "flip" terrible pitchers.

    Theo's goals are twofold at this point: be as competitive as possible while not sacrificing building a long term winner. He is not going to burden himself with expensive contracts he can't move. That just isn't where the team is. He also isn't going to completely abandon the season or other ways to pick up players (in this instance, trades) in order to go all draft all the time. This is the much maligned dual tracks in action.

  • This is an amazing community at Cubs Den. I have been an avid reader for a while, but haven't commented before. It's been my pleasure to read so many knowledgeable comments (especially when compared to other Cubs forums I've seen). Great job by John, Tom, Felzz and all contributors in making this the definitive source for Cubs news and discussion.

  • In reply to Denizen Kane:

    Thanks Denizen Kane! And I like the handle :)

  • Saw on MLB Trade Rumors that he turned down a 2-year, $5 million deal to join the Cubs. My guess is he's being given every chance to hold down a starting job. Might wind up in a platoon by June or so, but I don't expect that until then. Dude might just be a good everyday player if he's afforded the chance.

    Still liking this front office's approach of consistently trying to find diamonds in the rough rather than simply accepting known mediocrity for the rebuilding phase.

  • In reply to Jim Weihofen:

    That's a good point, Jim. He must have been offered something to turn down more money. One year as a starter and back out on the market while he's still young may have won him over.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    John,

    I was thinking more along the lines of if he has a really good year he would probably make more money next year through the arbitration process than if he would have signed a 2yr/5M deal.

  • In reply to Zippy2212:

    Valid point

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    The thing I rather like about Scheirholtz - that I have to believe the front office likes too - is that his OBP has been quite consistent. In seasons in which he's had at least 100 ABs, there's only been a 24 point difference between his high (.326) and low (.302).

    This should also finally kill the really implausible rumor of Bourn to the Cubs.

  • There's an update over at Bleacher Nation that says, "...if the Cubs like what Schierholtz offers this year, he’s actually under control through 2014 by virtue of not having enough service time for free agency by the end of 2013. So the Cubs could offer him arbitration after the season."

    That's pretty awesome if true. That extra year definitely increases his value as a trade chip if he does well as a starter.

  • I like the Schierholtz signing. Good player on the cheap, in his 20's, athletic, sneaky pop...welcome aboard. Wonder what's up with Placido Polanc?. He can still pick it a little bit, right handed, veteran presence...might be a good fit. Wonder if there'd be any interest in DeRosa as the platoon partner at third. He'd probably sign a minor league deal I would imagine. Even if he doesn't stay completely healthy he could still bring a little versatility, right handed bat, and clubhouse leadership to a pretty young clubhouse. Lots of "hidden" value there potentially.

  • I don't like or hate this signing. A little surprised in the lack of trades. I like change and in this case after an 101 loss season it's needed.
    Nate, as long as he stays healthy and gets an opportunity to play a lot, should hit and play good defense. I remember when he was in the Giant's farm system he was discussed a lot. Go upside so their really shouldn't be any negatives against him. It does cause DeJesus to move over to CF which I really don't like. With him playing in CF, I think it'll hurt his trade value. Perhaps it'll even hurt his hitting ability.
    I love that BJax is headed back to minors. I think he's the real deal because he really sold me in last year's Cubs convention. Plus the FO is putting him through the same process as Rizzo.
    My wish list would be for the FO to trade for Coco Crisp. I would've rather signed Ryan Sweeney. I know he doesn't hit for power. But I do like him more then Schierholtz plus he would come cheaper. I would also like them to trade away Soriano, Marmol, and Garza. But one more important point I'd like to make. Keep in mind that all these one year deals means one thing: THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN NEXT YEAR. Can they pull it off, again?

  • I think that the Cubs will play Schierholtz in RF most everyday, but must have something else in mind for CF other than Dejesus daily. If Jackson had a major fix on his swing, he will need much AAA time to refine it. Bottom line even in the event of another move we may only be marginally better this year. It is a process.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    It wouldn't surprise me to see the Cubs mix and match in CF and RF on a regular basis. They still could use more pitching and they need to address 3B, as well.

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    I find it hard to believe we might sign Reynolds for third base. We already have a guy in Vitters who can strike out likely about the same rate. Why spend the money for the milk when we already have the cow ?

  • In reply to TheRiot2:

    LOL...good point. Well I agree with it in general anyway. Don't think Vitters will strike out as much as Reynolds, though. Then again, Vitters may not make it at all, so we'll see.

  • Keith law I think was talking about Reynolds the other day on tues baseball podcast and made him sound a lot better, will he play 3B?

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