Happy Non-Tender Day!

Happy Non-Tender Day!

I think it's about time to keep a close eye on this, so what I'll do is start a thread and we'll look at who the Cubs might non-tender as well as some interesting names that become available.

  • 4:59 PM: As expected, the Mets have non-tendered Andres Torres, a switch-hitting plus defender in CF with good speed.  Potential bargain pickup for the Cubs if they can't pick up someone like Coco Crisp.  Both the Reds and the Braves are said to be looking for a leadoff hitter/outfielder type and Crisp fits the bill, especially with Denard Span traded to the Nats and Dexter Fowler being taken off the market.  Crisp may be a cheaper alternative to expensive FA Michael Bourn.
  • 4:45 PM: The Indians have non-tendered 3B Jack Hannahan.  Hannahan has played semi-regularly since 2007, but is a defensive oriented 3B who fits best as a utilty player. Rafael Perez, a RP with a career 3.64 ERA has also been non-tendered.
  • 4:10 PM: The Atlanta Braves made two interesting NTs, the first is Jair Jurrjens, who broke on the scene with a 13-10, 3.68 ERA in 2008.  He won 14 the next year and then 13 in 2011.  He's the kind of pitcher who does it with smoke and mirrors these days as he has lost about 4 mph from his fastball.  He really struggled in 2012 with a 6.89 ERA and just 3.54 Ks/9IP.  The second is Peter Moylan, who was a reliable reliever for Atlanta in 2009 and 2010, but he has missed most of the last two years with injuries.  The 34 year old has a career ERA of 2.59.  They are expected to try and re-sign Moylan, but Jurrjens will likely be set free.
  • 3:58 PM: RHP Mike Pelfrey will be non-tendered by the Mets.  He was 15-9, with a 3.66 ERA just two years ago, but is coming off of TJ surgery and won't be ready to open the season.
  • 3:51 PM: Ryan Sweeney has been non-tendered.  He loosely fits what the Cubs want -- a CF who plays good defense and can get on base a bit (.335 OBP career, not great but not bad by Cubs standards).  Bill James projects him to hit .273/.335/.370 next year with a .311 wOBA.
  • 3:38 PM: Gordon Wittenmeyer reiterates the news that Hoyer plans to non-tender two players with the intention of re-signing both.  I expect those players to be Ian Stewart and Luis Valbuena.
  • 3:13 PM: Scott Atchison was non tendered by the Red Sox, an organization he's been with since 2010, so Theo knows him.  The 36 year old had a 1.58 ERA in 51.1 IP.   He walked 1.58 batters per 9 IP while striking out 6.31.  FIP and xFIP are a bit higher but still respectable.  Could be Shawn Camp part 2.
  • 2:57 PM: Cory Wade has elected free agency.  Yes, he had a 6.46 ERA, but the 8.77/1.85 strikeout to walk ratio is oustanding and his xFIP of 3.65 is much more respectable than that ERA.  Cheap RH bullpen help who could add value later.
  • 2:45 PM: The Pirates have non-tendered RHP Jeff Karstens.  Karstens had a solid year and is someone I think the Cubs should consider for a starter or swingman type role.  He went 5-4 with a 3.97 ERA.  He walked an impressive 1.49 batters per 9 IP while striking out 6.59/9IP.  Good ration, nice FIP of 3.38.
  • 2:30 PM: Bruce Miles tweets that the Cubs will be under the 40 man roster by the end of the day.  In fact, TWO players could get non-tendered.  It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Ian Stewart is one of them and you have to figure Luis Valbuena is the 2nd guy.  Hoyer did say that their hope was that they could re-sign any player they non-tender.  In Stewart's case, the salary is too high.  With Valbuena, it might just be about creating roster space.  If they re-sign him, I'm presuming it would be on a minor league deal.
  • 2:15 PM: The Brewers have non-tendered LHP Manny Parra, once considered among their top pitching prospects.

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  • Karstens by the Pirates.

  • Thanks just entering it now.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    You're welcome, John. Wouldn't mind seeing the Cubs add 1 more starting pitcher in case one of the current 5 isn't ready by Opening Day.

  • Is Parra worth an add? He's pitched decently in the past.

  • In reply to Eddie:

    If you think you can get him to throw strikes, then yes. Depends on what Cubs scouts see. Has good stuff, particularly for a LHP.

  • I see the Giants NT Joaquin Arias, who played defense very well for them last year while hitting 270 regular season and .375. .

  • In reply to SFToby:

    .375 post season..

  • In reply to SFToby:

    Sorry, I misread it. Not a NT.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    Is he the same guy that used to pitch for the Cardinals?

  • Arias never pitched in the majors.

  • In reply to Eddie:

    I know, just trying to be funny. Joaquin Andujar was the pitcher for the Cardinals. Never liked him.

  • My mistake. Have enough trouble with irony when it's spoken, let alone on message boards.

  • Loved Andujar's classic blowup, hissy-fit, and ejection in Game 7 of the '85 WS against the Royals.

  • Arias played 3B, SS and 2B for the Giants.

  • Nate Schierholtz.

  • That one doesn't interest me for the Cubs so much.

  • Thanks for the running updates, John.
    Bad Joke of the Day: Non-tender decisions can be tough.

  • In reply to StillMissKennyHubbs:

    LOL!!! Love the Bad Joke of the Day!

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    ...they can be tough, but they're something to chew on in these posts.

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    Noob question: is midnight eastern the deadline, or is it earlier?

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    That's it.

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    I'm surprised they'd risk losing both of their third base options for next season. If that happens, it would seem to indicate they're fairly confident they have a path to a starting third baseman. Keppinger? Youkilis? Moustakas? (Okay, the last one is just me dreaming.)

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    I think they either have to be confident they can find a 3B on the market, or that they can re-sign one or both to minor league deals.

  • OT for you John (and other Den mates) but what do you think of the possibility of using Rule 5 on current Red Sox AAA outfielder Jeremy Hazelbaker? Per David Laurila of MLBTR (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/scouting-rule-5-eligible-prospects/) , " If the stars align, he could be the steal of next week‘s Rule 5 draft." I know this departs from general expectations of using the spot on pitching or a 3rd baseman, but Laurila makes this pick sound intriguing although he admits that Hazelbaker is "...doesn’t appear to be big-league ready". I am certainly not sold on this guy (or anyother one at this point) but it strikes me as a potential option
    out of many.

  • In reply to Good Captain:

    I actually wrote about him 9 days ago. I think he's an interesting option.

    http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/2012/11/early-look-at-rule-5-draft-red-sox-duo-intriguing-as-cubs-may-look-at-familiar-systems/

  • Makes some sense. Especially if you use him regularly as a pinch hitter. Use him early as a PH, and you save your bench for later.

  • Here's hoping we never have to hear the asinine nickname "Big Pelf" ever again.

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    Pelphrey is intriguing. I wonder, if he were signed to a two year deal, might he be a potential trade chip in 2014.

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    In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    I wouldn't be surprised if a team like the Red Sox goes after him. They often have done well with reclamation projects. Although a lot of that was set up under Theo, so maybe the Cubs try the same approach.

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    In reply to Kevin Heckman:

    Feldman and Baker are signs of how much Theo loves his reclamation projects. Maybe he'll bring Milton Bradley out of retirement to play right.

  • Since the Cubs had the 2nd worst record in all of baseball do they
    have the 2nd turn in picking up a released/wavied player?

  • Torres is a great clubhouse guy who plays the game hard.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    I like the idea if they can't get someone more productive on offense.
    At worst he's he a good 4th OF'er.

  • Nontenders become free agents, and can sign either a minor league or major league contract with any team, including their current team.

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    I'm an ex-pat Chicagoan and die hard Cubs fan who had the opportunity to watch Andres Torres play for the Giants. He has been a major disappointment except for the career year of 2010. Please stop recommending him as an option. He is not the answer, only a deeper question.

  • In reply to David Andrysiak:

    But I'm getting tired of some of our in-house disappointments. ;=)

  • MLB Trade Rumors ‏@mlbtraderumors
    Cubs Have Interest In Michael Bourn http://bit.ly/11sGYlC #mlb

    Wait, what?

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    LOL I said the same thing.. Makes no sense, unless they are thinking of trading Jackson for pitching???

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    In reply to irish0625:

    Bourn still makes sense even if they want to trade Jackson for pitching. Bourn is a replacement level player once his speed falls off. He's a one dimensional player (that would also cost us our 2nd round pick as compensation). Good defense can be found cheap. We're not ready to contend, so simply adding a good glove in CF who can be found in a bucket of discards is all we need right now. No thank you. Just pass.

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    In reply to Just Win:

    That should read: Bourn still makes NO sense. Period. He's the definition of what GM's should avoid long term contracts on. And the $15 mil per they're all speculating? Did someone break into a meth lab?

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    Didn't Theo or Jed or someone else hint at possibly acquiring a major FA a few weeks ago?

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    I gotta believe this is Boras trying to drive up the market/price for his client. Otherwise this makes no sense. Really doesn't seem part of the "plan" to me.

  • With so many players being released and no room on the 40-man
    roster what will the Cubs do before Monday?

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    Hi, Ive been a silent reader for months now just never posted anything.. Great..Great blog!!! Just thought I'd mght add... apparently the cubs are interested and have been in dicussions with M. Bourne per Mlbtr. Interesting.. I wonder what the thinking is there??!

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    ....and Im late as ever!! lol!!!

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    IMO, a Bourne signing goes against the grain with the philosophy of this regime but the K/rate of Jackson just seems to steep of a hill to climb regardless of all other tangibles he brings to the table. With they style of team the FO seems to lean torwards,(atheticism,speed,defense,high OBS%) with a few more pieces could be very competitive. Kepinger with a solid .280 avg, Bourne setting the table at leadoff...Castro with a premier bat in hand with increasing power...Rizzo looking to be a stud... Kinda makes a move for Bourne logical if in fact we shore up 3b with a good average decent power guy and with our young studs continuing to mature could make for a competitive team. I dont think the FO is sold on vittes nor Jackson...Bourne and Kep... could be midterm stop gaps for the likes of Baez,Soler types.... Iunno...maybe Iam a lil crazy!!

  • Signing Bourn for 100 million, which would have to cover at least 6 years, would hardly be a midterm stop gap.

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    Saw the article on Bourn too...they said Boras will seek 9 figures!
    Hard to believe! No way would Hoyer even consider that. I agree with Bill that it is just one way to drive up demand for Bourn.
    If you read MLBTR post, Hoyer never mentioned Bourn, just that they would seek OF help until prospects are ready.
    I could see a "conversation" with Boras that went like, "Bourn? 9 figures? C-ya Scott!"
    I think Sweeney may be a good short-term option.

  • Looks like the Cubs have NT Stewart, Jaye Chapman and Zach Putnam. Hope they bring back Chapman.

  • In reply to Jamato:

    I saw that and would agree I'd like to see Chapman return. I also saw that Casey Coleman cleared waivers and accepted an assignment to AAA Iowa.

  • In reply to Ibleedcubbieblue:

    Chapman needs to show a little better command as he walked a bunch of batters, but Dale seemed to trust him a bit in his little time w the cubs. I'd like to see what Bosio could do w him in a full season. They need BP help as it stands.

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    In reply to Jamato:

    Chapman genuinely surprises me. I thought he was close to a lock for the bullpen next year. Must have been something about him they didn't like.

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    In reply to Ibleedcubbieblue:

    Coleman's never going to leave, is he?

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    In reply to Kevin Heckman:

    When we get some decent arms for the 6, 7, 8, 9 slots in the rotation, yes. Until then, he does have some value.

  • The Orioles non-tendered Mark Reynolds.

  • See - John walks away from his computer, something happens. Like clockwork.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Haha! Got stuck having to do something I didn't want to do, but no way out. Ahhh well. It's funny you said that because I just wrote a piece on my take and I started with that same line about walking away from my laptop.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    You're our secret weapon, John. Strategically planned rests from the computer when we're pursuing FA's. The book'll be called Johnnyball.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Haha! I like it.

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