Cubs to sign Scott Feldman

Cubs to sign Scott Feldman

Well, if the next time you see me I'm in a sling, its because I think I'm going to have to pat myself on the back on this one.

The Cubs have reportedly agreed to sign RHP Scott Feldman to a one year/$6M deal.  I wrote this on Sept. 5th,

"...the gut feeling here is that the Cubs may be looking more at guys like Scott Baker and Scott Feldman."

Here's what I wrote about Feldman at the time,

The Cubs were rumored to have shown some interest in acquiring Feldman last spring and could continue that over this winter. He's now 3 years removed from his surprising 17 win season.  Interestingly, Feldman's peripherals continue to improve as his results have gotten worse.  His FIP this year (3.78) is actually less than it was in his breakout year (4.31).  Feldman is another low 90s pitcher, though he has turned much more frequently to the cut fastball, which is about a tick slower but has more movement and has been more effective.  Stuff-wise, Feldman is more on par with current Cubs young starters Chris Rusin and Brooks Raley, but his control/command is much more advanced.  This year he's walked just 2.1 batters per 9 innings and has allowed less than a HR per 9 innings, no small feat considering that bandbox he pitches half his games in.  Feldman's ERA of 5.01 is higher than his FIP, due in part to a Chris Volstad like strand rate of 59.7% -- but that's the kind of thing that could make him a bargain this offseason.

Needless to say, I absolutely love this signing.  Feldman can be a starting pitcher and he potentially adds some versatility should the Cubs decide to keep him longer term.  The relatively large one year salary indicates that the Cubs plan to make him a starter, which is probably the lure that brought him to Chicago.

For even more detail on why Feldman is such a great signing, here is what Dave Cameron of Fangraphs wrote on November 9th.

Feldman is excited about joining the Cubs,

“In my mind the Cubs are like a dream scenario for me. I’m getting to play with an organization that has that history, in a city like Chicago, with those fans. I think it’s an ideal situation ... I was looking for an opportunity to have a bigger role on the team (than with the Rangers). I still left there on good terms with everybody. There are a lot of good people in that organization that I’m going to miss.’’

“You see what happens in baseball. You see the A’s, the Orioles made the playoffs – we got eliminated by the Orioles – and I don’t think anybody was ready to crown them anything at the start of the season. Baseball’s a funny game. A lot of things can happen. As long as we have 25 guys come together, anything can happen. Baseball is sort of unpredictable that way. A lot of people won’t think that can happen, but crazier things have happened.’’

Two shrewd value signings and the one year deals indicate that the Cubs want to remain flexible for next years market.  Now on to 3B, CF, and maybe one more pitcher.


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  • I realize this is off-topic (apologies), and you might already be working on a post about it. Still, I was wondering what you guys thought about the huge mega-deal Fox made for the Dodgers broadcast rights, and what it portended for the Cubs in a few years when their Tribune contract wraps up.

  • In reply to Ken Begg:

    No apology needed, Ken. It's certainly an important area but business is not my strong suit. I'll see if Tom or Felzzy might want to write up on this. I think they have a good handle on it.

  • They can't be done with the rotation. Baker is still coming back from TJS and won't be ready for the start of the year and there are no guarantees Garza is ready either. Right now one of the Rusin/Coleman/Raley is in the Opening Day rotation. Feldman provides some nice depth while Baker gets healthy, but he's more of a long reliever type. I think they still need another SP.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    They may still look but I think it relieves some of the pressure to overpay for one. Teams don't often need 5th starters early in the season because of off days and PPDs, so they can afford to wait on Baker if necessary.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    I like him as a 4th/5th type starter. Considering what they are paying him - I think the FO signed him as a SP...

    But I agree, with the questions on Baker/Garza we need one more SP signing/acquisition.

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    Depth is never a bad thing when it comes to SP. I'm sure the Cubs will keep their eyes open.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Theo likes to have 8 or 9 starters and I don't think they do at this point. I would also have some questions about how Samardzija holds up after his first year as a starter.

    I could see them using Feldman in the rotation and then bumping Wood to the bullpen in May when Baker is healthy. Then Wood can go back to the rotation when one of the SPs is traded at the deadline.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    I think any other guys will be minor league deals and pitchers currently in their system.

    Right now you have guys like Rusin, Raley, Struck, Vizcaino, and Cabrera. Plus guys like Coleman and Bowden is getting stretched out as well, though, barring injury, won't be a starter when the season starts. I can see a minor league signing with a spring training invite and a ticket to AAA and, perhaps, a promise to be the first considered if and when the Cubs have an injury. Perhaps a guy like John Lannan if he doesn't get an MLB deal elsewhere.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    While I think you are correct about the type of pitchers the Cubs will add, I just think this is a huge mistake.

    Raley, Rusin, and Coleman have shown nothing to make me think they are ML starters. There are no guarantees Struck will still be in the organization after the Rule 5. Vizcaino and Cabrera aren't likely to be ready in the first half.

    I just think that not adding another major league SP is going to leave them short-handed at some point.

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    Well, I think it's safe to assume Cubs Den is Theo Epstein's browser startup page. Good one, John! (And good one, Cubs!)

  • In reply to João Lucas:

    Haha! Thanks!

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    What numbers should I play in the lottery?

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Ha! Maybe I should play. I'm on a roll :)

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    When you win you can buy yourself a custom back-patting machine and save that shoulder.

  • In reply to eaton53:

    Great idea :)

  • I like this signing more than when the Cubs sign Maholm last year.

    Never can have too many pitchers.....

    We have five third basemen on the 40 man roster.....I still say something has to happen there with a trade or DFA.....

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    In reply to CubsTalk:

    Someone is probably going to be de-rostered today to open up a spot for Feldman. I'd bet on Stewart.

  • In reply to CubsTalk:

    Yes. And I think the word choice "agree to sign" indicates the Cubs are trying to save a small window to make a minor deal. If they can't, then they'll have to waive a player.

  • Odds he's still a Cub on August 1st, 2013?

  • In reply to Jim Weihofen:

    Feldman will get an opportunity and if he excels, I could see that happening. I wouldn't rule out extending him, but if the Cubs can get long term value for him, they won't hesitate to do that.

  • John,

    Thanks for the fangraphs link. I liked that article, gives a compelling argument for Feldman. I loved that Brandon McCarthy tweeted about this article and concurred with the author that Feldman was the best value out there....

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    He did. McCarthy definitely understands the game. Will make a good coach or scout when he's done playing.

    Great article by Cameron. Went into much more detail than I did on Feldman. Can't do it much better than that.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    With this signing do you think the Cubs will still go after McCarthy?

  • In reply to Zachary Myers:

    I've been doubtful on McCarthy from the start and that doubt has only increased now. I'd be pretty surprised at this point, though it would be a pleasant surprise.

  • We still need another starter preferably left handed to create competition as well as depth.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    I don't know if an SP is still a priority but I think they'll keep that option open. Not too many LHPs in free agency.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    There is Liriano out there still. I wouldn't mind him. He has potential to be good.

    If the Alberto Cabrera experiment works, when could he possibly join the rotation?

    And there is Vizcaino too, but I would think if he did make it it would be near the end of the year.

  • In reply to John57:

    Possibly. My gut feeling, though, is that the Cubs are done as far as SP unless a) a deal falls in their laps or b) they can acquire a guy who can be a long term piece.

    These guys could be just place holders until Vizcaino and/or Cabrera are ready.

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    In reply to 44slug:

    Alot of speculation on whether we are done getting starting pitching.

    John, since your gut seems to be working, what is your thought? I would think we are now going to focus on CF/3B, and let the market shake out. Maybe if January rolls around, and everyone has spent their money, there may be a budget get out there....sometimes that happens.

    But in addition to the 5 potential starters under contract, we have depth in Vizcaino, Cabrera, and maybe Bowden, not to mention the collection of soft-tossers at Iowa (Rusin, Raley, Struck)

  • In reply to Zonk:

    If you mention Struck then you have to consider B. Loux too.

    Sorry for saying some of the same guys you posted first but it didn't show on my screen at the time.

  • In reply to John57:

    Yes...absolutely... good one. Loux and Struck are somewhat similar and at similar stages of development.

  • In reply to Zonk:

    Gut says no. They'll keep their eyes open for another bargain or a reasonable deal for a long term piece, but I think another SP is on the backburner and behind CF and 3B right now.

  • I like this signing a lot . He's one of the best bang for the buck guys out there , a good back of the rotation guy. If he is back to his old self, this could be on the better bargain signings this off season

  • In reply to Steve Flores:

    In my opinion, the Cubs just got the two best value signings out there.

  • Nice job John- while Phil Rogers spews out his fantasy-land predictions, you guys consistently predict what actually happens. Just a great, under the radar, signing. With one more addition to the pitching staff, we will have a respectable starting rotation, half-way decent bullpen, a mediocre lineup and pretty good defense. If the guys play as hard as they did last year we won't be contending but it could be a team that is fun to watch and see develop.

  • In reply to Cuyler:

    Thanks. I'm really looking forward to next year's team. I don't think they'll be the 2013 version of the Oakland A's/Baltimore Orioles, but I think there will be some progress.

    Baker and Feldman essentially replace Dempster and Feldman, but I feel good about Wood and Samardzija continuing to make progress. If you have Garza return to 2011 form, this rotation could actually be better.

  • Patrick Mooney ‏@CSNMooney
    Hoyer says #Cubs targeted Feldman/Baker but will keep looking - it's too early in offseason to rule out multiyear deal for rotation.

    I read this as the Cubs will be open to another signing if they get a good deal, but a big money signing is unlikely.

  • In reply to North Side Irish:

    I think with a complete rotation, they'll be looking out for another bargain signing but I'm thinking CF and 3B now bigger priorities.

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    In reply to North Side Irish:

    I hope the front office keeps listening to John's ideas and still tries to fetch a guy like Porcello, at least.

  • In reply to João Lucas:

    If they do add another pitcher than Porcello makes the most sense.

  • If you include under the radar signing of Bogusevic and the Valbuena/healthy Stewart combination the pressure is off.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    I wouldn't go that far :)

  • Well this sure sounds like the end of the line for Ian Stewart on the 40 man. It also tells me the Cubs will trade at least 2 guys off the 40 man to address further needs . They have to create room to accomodate a possible rule 5 as well as any free agents / trades . I would look for a trade at Winter meetings prior to the Rule 5 . I just have a feeling it might be a big one . I dont see the Cubs picking up a big free agent but I do see a major aquisition say Rizzoesque .

  • In reply to Bryan Craven:

    Could well be. I expect the Cubs to be busy from here until the end of the winter meetings.

  • PS Love this signing, In the NL central i am guessing 10 wins 4.25 ERA

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    Wow John, you've pretty much nailed this off season so far. Are you sure your not really Jed using a different profile?

  • In reply to Zachary Myers:

    Haha! My wife has seen Jed and me in the same room (actually the same parking lot). We also shook hands, so that rules out me being the alternate universe Jed Hoyer, otherwise we would have exploded on contact.

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    This is why cubs den is my #1 blog. You guys should see how this signing, along with the Baker signing are being bashed to hell on other blogs and cubs sites. People raging we should have signed Grienke, Bourn and Sanchez instead of this crap etc.

    the contributors here know how good a value signing this is. Not saying we should be done by any means but these Maholm type signing are what will help speed up the rebuild if even just slightly. Feldman will be better than advertised.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Thanks Marcel!

    It's amazing. Everyone bashed Hendry for doing that kind of stuff, now they want Hoyer/Epstein to do the same thing.

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    Is it just me or they handing out some pretty good money to mediocre starters.. I like the Scott baker and I like this signing to but I think 6.5 mil is a high amount.. Idk mayb it's just me

  • In reply to Colman Conneely:

    The key number on both of those deals is "1". As in one year. The Cubs will have a low payroll this year and if these guys turn out to be average MLB starters (2 WAR), then both deals will actually be bargains.

  • John, one comment and one humble suggestion:

    1) Your predictions here are unreal, dude. I started reading this blog last year around this time and I remember talking to someone a few months later about their surprise at the Maholm signing and the Volstad trade and how no one saw those coming. I replied "Actually, there's this smart Cubs blog out there where the writer DID predict those things." An admittedly obvious compliment: you've set the bar high. Keep it up.

    2) This is probably not for right now, but the FanGraphs article regarding the different parks that McCarthy and Feldman pitched in made me think of a potentially interesting article (again, probably for a later date). I'd be interested in seeing an article about the long-known quirks of Wrigley Field and how that plays out with the types of players you want to get. Things like the wind, long grass, ivy/brick walls, and dimensions make Wrigley a unique place to play, and I know Theo has mentioned how studying the ballpark would be one part of his plan to field a winning team. I'd imagine the effects are probably a little bit subtle, but I could see differing levels of intelligence/athleticism/mental makeup/flyball pitching having differing levels of success at Wrigley.

  • In reply to mosconml:

    1) Thanks mosconml!
    2) I like that idea. Sounds like I should start some deeper research on Wrigley.

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    Any word on what the corresponding move is on the 40-man to clear the space?

    I would think the Casey Coleman era is finally over, but then again, I thought he would've been dropped already. At this point, I don't even know if the Cubs have a AAA rotation slot available for Coleman.

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    In reply to Zonk:

    I feel that, with some rumors floating around linking the Cubs to Chisenhall and Keppinger, it's becoming increasingly unlikely that the team will tender Stewart a contract. And I don't see much reason not to DFA him right now if that is the case. So I'm betting he's the one going away. (Which is not to say the Cubs won't try and re-sign him later if they don't get someone else.)

  • very happy with the feldman signing. we now have 2 guys who are #4/#5 starters, who with good years can be viewed as #3's, just like maholm was last year. im pretty impressed that after last year the front office was able to duplicate the same feat with guys knowing theres a very solid chance that they're traded regardless of the type of year they're having.

    on to the 40 man...
    i think nows the time we really make a move for chisenhall.
    vitters plus a guy whos not on our 40 man, for chisenhall and maybe a guy who isnt on clevelands 40 man (with our guy being the better prospect). we then drop stewart to create a spot on the 40 man and move on to our next deal, hopefully landing our centerfielder for next year.

  • In reply to jshmoran:

    Would like to see that happen on Chisenhall. That's fixing two things at once.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    chisenhall wasnt really on my radar until vitters was brought into the conversation and the way i see it is that vitters is part of the problem and chisenhall is part of the solution, regardless of how both players work out, i think vitters needs a change of scenery and i think chisenhall has potential that isnt currently being pulled out of him in cleveland. the cubs arent really trying to wait for a 3b, we'd like one that we're confident in to start the year and cleveland has more than enough time to be patient, i think the trade works for both sides. i wouldnt mind throwing in a mcnutt or a campana or a concepcion in this deal either, i think itd be good for the organization to rid themselves of some of the more frustrating players in our system, especially if we gain a possible future core piece.

  • No questions, just happy.

  • Thing is to have a successful rebuild You need to add One impact core player at least every year .Cubs management did a GREAT job year one, Locked up Castro, aquired Rizzo , Shark to the rotation , Got Almora, Soler , Vizcaino. I dont see a player in that mold yet although perhaps a Baker , Feldman type aquisition can get a talent back at the deadline . I am hopeful at the winter meetings we can trade off a few guys in a package to aquire a top talent .

  • side news Angels have signed Ryan Madsden , and Yanks finalizing deal on Petitte .

  • In reply to Bryan Craven:

    Good gamble by the Angels, here it's a one year, incentive laden deal.

  • One pitching concern I still have for next year is our bullpen. I see one innings-eater in Samardzija, two guys coming off injuries in Baker and Garza, and two 5-inning or so guys in Wood and Feldman (if I'm not mistaken here -- I know the least about him). Camp did yeoman's work last year, but I don't think expecting some regression is unreasonable and the rest of the bullpen felt rather in flux. I don't know if the Cubs have any specific plans here, but I'd love to see one more small signing (or at least flyer) of a reliable bullpen arm.

  • In reply to mosconml:

    I agree they need to shore up that bullpen. Wouldn't be surprised to see another signing or two like Camp.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Agreed. The Pen was a hole most of last season - especially before Marmol staged his 2nd half comeback.

    The Pen needs attention.

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    In reply to drkazmd65:

    I wonder if this is part of the reason Coleman's still kicking around. They might be thinking of him as a potential bullpen arm. Not that that solves your problem.

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    In reply to mosconml:

    Good point...what does our bullpen look like today?

    Zach Putnam
    Jaye Chapman

    ...and other fringy types like Beliveau, etc.

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    Love the Feldman signing. And me for one, did not want McCarthy. The head injury is just too risky for me...

    I'd still like what the Tigers have in surplus-Porcello and Castellanos especially. What would it take to get those two? Marmol, Barney, $?
    Soriano? Junior Lake?

    Would love to hear your thoughts but I do think we should target them for a SP and 3b.

  • In reply to Dale Miller:

    Missed your comment and question in the frenzy today Dale.

    Agreed there could actually be more risk with McCarthy consider the head injury, past shoulder injuries...and he'll cost more. Guess is that Cubs put out feelers but that McCarthy not prepared to commit to short term deal without testing market.

    I've been a big Porcello fan. My concern is whether the Cubs have enough of what Detroit wants. Their biggest need is a closer, but if they wanted a inconsistent guy like Marmol they could have just kept Valverde. I hope the Cubs find a way, but I'm not optimistic.

  • Hava!!!!!! Nagila Hava!!!!!

    Nagila Hava nagila ve-nismeha!!!!

    Color me lukewarm on this one. I can't kill it. It's a make sense signing. And he could rebound. But rebound to what? He was on a winning team. And when September and October rolled around he was in the pen or pressbox. Maybe it's my lack of AL baseball watching. But with Maholm I knew there was a higher ceiling he could bounce back too. The Rangers have been trying to replace this guy for awhile.

    He's also pitched in the pen too right? Like if Marmol gets traded and others can't close, he might be an option? Might?

    I don't know. To me he's a new Volstad. Of course I was really interested about him in the off-season.....then I saw him pitch.

    But as a fellow jew, I'm ecstatic. Babka and Kreplach for everybody!!!!!!!

    Arguello, we'll have to ask ChicagoNow to jerry rig our wourd press so I can dot the I's with little Stars of Davids for all of Feldman's wraps......

  • In reply to felzz:

    Vey's mir, Felzz !. Hank Greenberg would be proud of this signing.
    It will be hard for me not to think of Scott as "Felzzman"....

  • In reply to felzz:

    LOL! I'll see what I can do ;)

    Feldman probably has better stuff than Maholm. Of course, a lot of pitchers have better stuff than Maholm, but few use what they have as well as he does.

    Statistically and stuff-wise, there isn't much difference between him and Brandon McCarthy, and he comes at a cheaper price with less health concerns.

  • In reply to felzz:

    That was priceless Felzz....LOL

    I think of him as a 4th/5th type of SP. His upside is probably limited to a #3 SP and his floor is a innings eater out of the pen (not a closer). One of the things that people aren't talking about is that he has post-season experience, and this young team will need a few of those guys around eventually....... The fangraphs article with the side by side comparison of "Felzzman" and McCarthy, and the value that he represents to the organization is what really brings the excitement into this signing for me.....

    Looking forward to reading all of your wraps for "Felzzman"....

  • You're scaring me now, John. Not only did you get the two signings right, but you got them in the right order! I think the government should keep an eye on you man! Seems like "insider knowledge trading" to me :-)

  • In reply to Quasimodo:

    LOL...No insider info there, just some statistical analysis and following a pattern of the kinds of guys I think the Cubs like. And some luck, of course :)

  • An intersting signing. He wasn't going to get a lot of chance on the TX team next season as a starter. He doesn't walk many - although he also doesn't strike out many. Not too many HRs - especially since you consider he played a lot of games in Arlington.

    With a good defense behind him, if he can keep the ball down, he could easily be a decent #4/#5 starter in Wrigley.

    Good signing.

  • In reply to drkazmd65:

    Agreed on all counts here.

  • Speaking of non-tenders, Mike Pelfrey was just non-tendered and they'll likely let him go. Interesting flyer but not sure Cubs can afford an MLB spot. Would have to be willing to do minor league contract, I think.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Also Andres Torres. Had an incredible season 2 years ago (6.9 WAR). Great defender in CF, switch-hits, good plate discipline and speed...poor man's Coco Crisp?

  • John...I swear. I was just logging in to talk about Pelfrey. Pitchers have been coming back stronger from TJ surgery. The surgery will be a year removed by May. Pelfrey is a hard-thrower with short / long term potential. I think he'd be a great addition of the Cubs picked him up as the last starter to throw into the mix. We can go with the current five to start and then work Pelfrey in as we all know this starting five won't be the starting five all season for many reasons.

  • In reply to apalifer:

    I think they have to consider him if there's a way to squeeze him in. Would be great if they could get him on a minor league deal. I don't know what the market will be for him or how likely that will be.

  • Call me what you want, but I like Stewart. A wrist that would hurt on making contact would make him tentative at bat. If I would have had a pregnant wife, I would have rehabbed at home as well. It is one thing to be playing, quite another to be rehabbing with a team. There is such a thing as priorities in life.

  • In reply to cavemancubbie:

    if I had a pregnant wife I would have rehabbed with the team! but hey that's me

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  • In reply to cavemancubbie:

    I don't know the Stewart situation well enough to have an informed opinion on the matter. I've just reported what Bruce Levine said. We do know that Garza stuck with the team and he has young children but that's a little different.

    We'll see what they really think by Friday, I guess. His health is also a factor.

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    Hey john, realistically if Feldman, and Baker come out and pitch somewhat as well as Maholm did last year if not better. What kind of prospects can we expect to get back for a couple of 30 year olds on one year deals? i understand this is freakishly early to be asking but just curious.

  • In reply to Larry:

    It's somewhat limited because they are one year deals. I think you can get quite a bit for Baker, probably as much or more as Dempster. More because the Cubs won't be as limited in trade negotiations.

    Feldman isn't viewed as highly and sometimes I wonder if it's better to keep him if he proves to be effective and versatile. If he pitches like Maholm, however, he could bring a nice return.

  • Loving Cubs Den more and more every day, John! I like Feldy and The Pitch Maker Scott Baker as well. Another guy that could be a real bargain bin steal is Tim Stauffer, who as recently as 2011 had a sub-4 ERA in 31 starts (albeit in Petco). Do you see him as a guy who'd sign a minor league deal? He probably started out with more upside than Baker or Feldman and he's their same age. What are your thoughts on that?

  • In reply to Ben20:

    Thanks Ben. A minor league deal is a possibility. I think the Cubs would like to have a veteran at AAA in case of an emergency.

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    Mike pelfrey is extremely intriguing. Just a few years ago he was an up-and-comer at the top of the mets rotation. Good stuff good control just never put it all together. If you can get him on a minor league deal then its a no brainer.

    in other news the market price for relievers has inflated to ridiculous levels this off-season. You have to think Marmol would have a nice bit of value with every decent reliever requiring a 3yr commitment which is insane.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Would provide some nice depth, but he may wind up getting better offers than that. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

    Marmol has to be traded sometime between now and the trade deadline. I just don't see the Cubs keeping him long term. He's improved, but a highly paid closer is a luxury right now.

  • Not crazy about this. He's got a cumulative 3.0 rWAR over 8 years. Looks like he's going to be a 4.50 ERA guy who doesn't even have the ability to eat a lot of innings as he's only pitched more than 152 innings once in his career. I have much faith in our FO though, so hopefully they see something they can fix or think he'll play well at Wrigley or against the NL, or their refined equations tell them something I'm not getting from the numbers.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    WAR isn't predictive, though. The more predictive stats like FIP, xFIP, SIERA, etc. bode well or a good year. Those numbers say that Feldman did well with the elements of the game he can control. Given some better luck, a good defense, and perhaps a new environment in which to pitch, he should put up closer to those predictive numbers.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Last year his FIP was 3.81 but the only three previous years he had over 100 innings as a starter (2008, 2009, 2010), his FIP was 5.35, 4.31, and 4.73 respectively. And those first two years are with a BABIP of .284 and .273.

  • I'm going to ask you the same question I asked when Baker was signed: Do you still consider Travis Wood a lock to start the year in the MLB rotation?

    Now I'm going to ask another question: Does another SP signing, or at least the multi-year deal that Hoyer suggest might be in the works, suggest that Garza is healthy and expendable? I still don't think he will be traded this offseason, but the opportunity may be there. Right?

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    I have heard a lot about the Tigers looking for a closer. There are a lot of people see them going after Rafael Soriono. But here is my question. Soriono is going to cost Detroit easily 14-18 mil. Why don't Chicago go and offer Marmol, and a couple of low A prospects for Porcello. to me that fills needs for both teams. Now granted Marmol will only get you 20-30 saves when he is on. But he is still cheaper than Soriono. Your thoughts.

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