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Cubs DFA Casey Coleman

Cubs DFA Casey Coleman

No shock here but the Cubs cleared room on their roster by designating 25 year old RHP Casey Coleman for assignment to make for new pitcher Scott Feldman.

Many of us expected Casey Coleman to be on the bubble here so no big surprise.  If Coleman clears waivers, he can either become a free agent or accept an assignment to AAA Iowa.

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    John it seems like all you have to do these days is post a new article and the Cubs will make a transaction within 2 hours, forcing you to write a new article :)

  • In reply to Just Win:

    Haha! I was just telling my wife that every time I take the time to write a time consuming piece, the Cubs make a move and I think to myself, "Man, I should have just waited!" I like to save those feature articles for slow days.

    This last article on the Cubans wasn't long, but it took time to research everything. The article on the rebuild was huge and right after I published it, I had a feeling the Cubs would make a move!

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    I'm kind of shocked. I was starting to think Coleman was going to retire at 40 as a borderline Cub pitcher :)

  • In reply to Kevin Heckman:

    He kept surviving, didn't he? Showed just enough in flashes and he is young so they seemed hesitant. Can only guess they tried to deal him but no takers.

    And don't count him out yet. He could clear waivers and wind up back in Iowa -- and be one step away from Chicago again :)

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    He'll show up as a zombie in the Walking Dead.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    odds that somebody will pick him up? 12 to 1 ?

  • In reply to SFToby:

    He'd be much more effective throwing body parts at hitters than baseballs.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    LOL...

    I need to watch that show.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    You do. Great show. My wife actually just had a scholarly essay published in a book on the Walking Dead, so it gets parsed endlessly in our house. The second season is slower than the first (although I still enjoyed the character development), but the third season so far has been awesome. Highly recommended.

  • In reply to Kevin Heckman:

    I will check it out. Seems like there is some much better TV out there than there used to be. I have gotten used to not watching a whole lot of TV, but apparently I've missed out.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    If I am Coleman's agent, I would advise him to not re-up with Iowa, and look elsewhere. The reason is that we don't have a rotation slot for him at Iowa. Someone else will have one.

    For that reason, I think he'll move on.

    I was surprised he made it through the first round of 40-man cuts. He made it further than many 13th-round picks, so I'll give him credit for that.

  • In reply to Kevin Heckman:

    Once he retires then he'll finally be just like Greg Maddux.

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    I see that the yankees just re-upped Pettite -- Do you think Michael Pineda could be available? I wonder what he would cost.

  • In reply to Chris Lattier:

    0 chance. they gave up montero and noesi. no way they give up that quick with someone with ace potential whos big leaugue ready.

  • In reply to Chris Lattier:

    No. I don't see them getting another significant starter unless there's one out there who comes cheap, someone who slips through the cracks.

  • If the Cubs claim a player put on waviers does he have to put on
    the 40-man roster? If not why?

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    He does, which is why you probably won't see the Cubs take one unless he's better than say, Zach Putnam, the last guy they picked up. They'll have to drop someone off the 40 man.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    There are a few on the 40 man that I wouldnt be heart broken to see follow Coleman down the road .

  • In reply to Bryan Craven:

    May get your wish. Looks like Cubs may be one of two finalists for closer Fujikawa. Angels are the others.

  • I wonder if the Cubs will be in play for Chone Figgens? He'd be a decent gamble at the league minimum. Actually, he'd probably be an upgrade at 3B compared to anyone else in the organization.

  • In reply to cowboy2024:

    Disagree. Figgins is cooked.

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    In reply to Eddie:

    I agree with Eddie, I think Figgins is done.

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    In reply to cowboy2024:

    He's 35, and coming off 2 seasons in which he slugged a combined .256. He didn't hit .256, he SLUGGED .256.

    Let us speak of this no more.

  • In reply to cowboy2024:

    Chone Figgins has negative value the last two years. He is 35, so the odds of a bounce back season are low. One of his greatest assets -- speed -- is now greatly diminished. His biggest asset these days is solid D, but that makes him no different than Stewart or Valbuena, each of whom have a better bat.

  • In reply to cowboy2024:

    Some strong feelings about possibly paying a guy $480k to compete for a job at 3B for one season :)

    I'd like to see him as a NRI at camp, but maybe I'm missing the a risk factor.

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    In non-Casey Coleman news, MLBTR reports BJ Upton to Braves; 5 years, 70-75 mil.

    That seems pretty fair to me, considering he'll only be 32 in the final season of that deal

  • In reply to Zonk:

    Non-Casey Coleman news? What fun is that?

    Deal makes sense for the Braves. They're knocking on the door. They needed a RH bat and they're going to be good for at least the next 2-3 years, as will Upton.

  • John, not sure if the question was posted, but why is Vitters not playing in Venezuela anymore? Did he get injured? Or is there a trade going on that involves him?

  • In reply to Caps:

    I thought about posting something on it but it doesn't appear all that exciting. Not only was he 0 for 7, but he played poorly in their minor leagues. Getting the feeling Josh didnt want to be there.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    If he left willingly because he didn't want to be there, then that looks reaaaallly bad for him.

  • In reply to Caps:

    Sorry, meant to write he was released. The part about not wanting to be there was just me speculating on his state of mind.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    My sources tell me that the reason Vitters was released is that the Cubs might be close to trading him and don't want to risk him getting injured.

  • It's possible. I don't know one way or the other but the fact is that the VZL team released him, the Cubs didn't end his assignment. It was the VZL team's choice. That means it was likely performance-based.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Vittrrs may need a break from baseball. It's like stopping to sharpen your chainsaw rather than to keep cutting with a dull chain.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    Is someone going to pay him to sharpen his chainsaw?

  • In reply to 44slug:

    Does that chainsaw reference mean he's being traded to Texas?

  • When I heard that Vitters was released, that thought came across my mind of a trade that might happen......the other thought, was an injury.

  • Is there any historical evidence or correlation between speed guys and how much there value decreases after there year 30 years? Seems like Upton has some power so he's not totally dependent on speed like Bourn, but if he slowed down wonder what that would do to his value.

  • In reply to Furiousjeff:

    I don't have a study handy. Players tend to get older, bigger. Sometimes it's the wear and tear, but they tend to slow down in their 30s. In Upton's case, a good deal of his value does go to his baserunning. Offensive metrics such as wOBA (.323) and RC+ (107) are just average. Defensive metrics are slightly above average, but that may diminish over time too if he loses speed. In fact, since 2009 he's been an average defensive player per UZR.

    I'm not saying Upton is not a good player, but he's the type that probably won't hold his value into his 30s, and the Cubs won't be good while he's still in his 20s.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    15Mil for 4WAR player now. but yeah given the fact that a lot of his value is tied to his speed (and 20+ power) if he slows down, instead of paying like 4Mil per win you could be paying like 7.5mil or higher (assuming his value drops to 2.0). Seems a little to risky of a move for the front office.

  • In reply to Furiousjeff:

    To me, he's the one guy you can maybe make an argument for as far as the top guys on the market because of his youth and position.

    But so many other factors, like the ones just mentioned. There are CFs, particularly Jackson, who may eventually able to do what Upton does for a lot less. Or maybe you trade for Crisp. I use the Fangraphs models and Upton was a 3.3 WAR and Crisp was 2.9 - and Crisp comes at half the price and for just one year. To me that's so much more appropriate for the Cubs. Just hope they can pull it off.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I'm sure you can use regression analysis to look at speed guys through history and how their value has changed as they've aged. In fact I am 100% sure that Theo/Jed have exactly that sort of analysis at their fingertips. It's not a perfect predictor, but it can definitely give you a sense of what's a good gamble and what's not.

  • In reply to Kevin Heckman:

    Agreed Kevin. I think you probably hit the nail on the head with this one. The kind of information these guys have access to is incredible.

  • I still think he's got somewhere between a 3rd and 5th starter's potential. Still kinda hard to cut ties with a guy who posted a 3.65 ERA as a 23 year old at AAA last season.

    Hopefully he sticks around. I'm not saying he'll be an ace, but I think he might have more upside than Rusin and Raley do.

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