Offseason Moves Series: Cubs could be in the market for CF

Offseason Moves Series: Cubs could be in the market for CF
Jackson will likely return to Iowa to work on his swing

Co-written with John Arguello

Theo Epstein today said he'd operate as if Brett Jackson was going to start the year in AAA.  That leaves CF wide open.  He also implied today that the Cubs wouldn't bid heavily on FAs, so that would seem to rule out someone like B.J. Upton.

Theo also said the team values Alfonso Soriano and will only trade him if they get value in return.  They've been unsuccessful in that pursuit so far and while Soriano has quelled some doubts with his good season and improved defense, he's still difficult to trade -- in part because of his contract and then, of course, there is that no-trade clause.

So what are the Cubs going to do in the OF?

Tom: The Cubs outfield picture is very murky. It’s really hard to figure out what moves may be made without knowing the future of Alfonso Soriano.

I have a hunch Soriano will be back. He proved to have some value to the club since his defense became less of a disaster. I don’t think the Cubs will want to eat as much money at they would have last offseason. Dale Sveum says some power is on his wish list. So if Sori sticks around you would think third base and outfield is where that pop could come from.

The jury is still very much out on Brett Jackson and that goes for me too. I still believe if the Cubs are patient (and they will be) they can develop him into a pretty valuable player. Jackson will almost assuredly start the season off in Iowa and have his swing reworked a lot like what Anthony Rizzo experienced this year.

The Cubs should be in the market for a center fielder. When it comes to potential trade candidates, I haven’t identified anyone that jumps out just yet. I do think a good gamble would be the oft-injured Grady Sizemore or former Cub Angel Pagan. Either one of these players could easily move to a corner position, be a fourth outfielder, or be dealt if they thrive. If the Cubs move Soriano, they could look at corner outfielders and temporarily move David DeJesus to center until Jackson shows he is ready.

The future of the position looks to be promising with Jackson, Matt Szczur, and  Albert Almora all in the organization, but for now they need a legit option to start the season at the least.

John: I'm not so sure the Cubs CF won't be David DeJesus. With that in mind, I think the Cubs will keep themselves flexible and also look at good corner OF'ers with solid defense and either slugging or OBP skills.  If they can get all 3...great.  But finding someone like that in the bargain bin should prove to be a little difficult.

I like Tom's ideas of Grady Sizemore on a one-year, prove your healthy sort of deal and Angel Pagan as a switch hitting CF with extra base power and solid defense.  Both would fit as short term solutions.

I think Sizemore is almost certainly a corner OF at this stage and it would mean moving DeJesus back to CF. If he's healthy, maybe he regains value and gives you a trade chip at the deadline.  Of course, that 's a huge "if".

Pagan had a 4.7 WAR season and I worry that even though he's not a big name, that there are enough GMs out there that are aware of how good he is.  I agree with Tom that he's someone the Cubs would be interested in signing.   I just don't know if they will get value as many teams could use a switch-hitting CF with good OBP and slugging skills.  I think he's a perfect fit if the price doesn't get too high.  He's certainly the kind of player the Cubs should be looking to acquire.

So who else is out there?

Cody Ross is a solid OF'er who can play all 3 OF positions and gives you some RH power.  Ross tends to have an inflated sense of self-worth, however, asking for a multi-year deal last offseason despite coming off a just above replacement level year.  I imagine he'll once again look for a 3 year deal.

Delmon Young is the right age (27), but questionable mental makeup, a bad approach at the plate, and poor defense likely outweighs that.

As far as trades go, I'd look at the newly arb eligible players, particularly young talents who either aren't playing full time or haven't lived up to expectations.  I'd further break those down into guys who play solid to good defense and have a somewhat disciplined approach at the plate.  Here is that list...

  • Travis Snider
  • Nolan Reimold
  • Gerardo Parra
  • Roger Bernandina

I'd also look into Chris Young's availability.  His 5 yr/28M deal expires after 2013, though he does still have a team option for 2014.  This makes him a potential trade chip should he bounce back.  He has the kind of plate discipline and defense the front office likes while having the power that Sveum wants. The Diamondbacks have a surplus of outfielders with Parra, Young, Jason Kubel, Adam Eaton, and Justin Upton.  The D'Backs have been rumored to be shopping Upton, so it would seem they are looking to clear that logjam.

And speaking of Upton...isn't he an option too?  In my opinion, he's not a realistic target. The cost of Upton will likely be too high in terms of prospects-- and frankly, I'm a little wary of an offensively needy team looking to trade a 25 year old 5 tool outfielder, especially one with a team friendly contract who has already experienced great success in the majors.  Color me a little skeptical here.  It either means the price is going to be prohibitive or there's something the D'Backs are not telling everyone.

So if I'm Theo, I kick the tires on someone like Pagan and get a feel for the market.  If the price gets too high, I'd turn to the D'Backs and see if I can pry one of their two stellar defensive outfielders in Chris Young or Gerardo Parra, with a preference toward Young because of his power.

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  • I like the idea of Chris Young he is a great defender and has power that would fit nicely in the cubs lineup. But what about the Angels they have a pretty jammed up OF so why doesn't Theo try to snag Peter Borjous from the angels to play CF? Would you like this type of deal is done for the present , future , or both?

  • In reply to Chicago Cubs Fan 24:

    Could be a buy low guy after a tough season and a hip injury. Looks healthy now. Outstanding defense and good speed. Not sure about the bat, but if he comes at a bargain, could hold CF until BJax ready and then maybe become a 4th OF.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    From what I was hearing the Angels were looking for a top pitching prospect for Bourjos when he was healthy. Much too steep for us at this stage. Chris Young i'm not too high on. But Parra is another story. He'd be absolutely perfect here. Can play center until Bjax is ready and then move to left after Soriano bolts or be a perfect 4th outfielder. The guy can rake too when given a chance.

    Travis Snider is another guy, young and a TON of potential. He was untouchable just a year or two ago. I gamble on him in a second if he's available. Can play right for now and then left later and actually stick around for a few years. This all assuming Soriano gets moved midseason and Snider reaches his immense potential.

    We need to find our Josh Reddick this year no doubt. They traded a reliever for him A RELIEVER. He was a top prospect but nobody predicted that kind of improvement. Again we need something like that and I think Parra or Snider can do that

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    They were trying to sell high on Bourjos last offseason and nobody came close to taking them up on it. I think most people weren't convinced he could produce on offense the way he did in 2011.

    I like both Parra and Young. I also like Snider but not sure the Bucs are going to trade him right after acquiring him. Young I like be cause he's a stop gap and a big name that will draw interest if he plays well.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    I like the idea of trading one of the relievers for one of the DBacks OFs.. Hopefully it does have a Josh Reddick like effect, although I'm not sure if DBacks need a reliever?

    I like Snider, but Bucs just traded for him this deadline. Not sure if they'd be willing to move him so quickly.

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    In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Marcel, I live in AZ and Parra has ben called out by the team, fans and media for his selfish play...I don't want him anywhere near Wrigley Field

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    Interesting, Luigi. That would certainly give me some pause. Cubs have been trying to change that culture, and a personality like that wouldn't help.

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    In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    hadnt heard that. hes a player i really like and think is undervalued. above average defense from any outfield spot with an average bat and speed. not too mention cheap. but that gives me some concern. although he probably wasnt too happy with them signing kubel when they really needed a thirdbaseman.

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    Until they figure this out,maybe they should consider starting with Tony Campana in CF next season.I'd like to see him with his speed and bunting ability in the leadoff position in the batting order in 2013.

  • In reply to Gary Schaber:

    If he shows he can find his way on base in winter ball, he may well get another shot.

  • In reply to Gary Schaber:

    I love Tony's speed and have been a big supporter of his. But John is right, he has to get on base. It's not like he hasn't been given opportunities. Until Sept, teams don't have the bench depth for one trick pony's.....

    I loved that last game after Clev failed to sac Barney over, Tony just bunts for a base hit.... SPEED changes everything! But he's got to get on base to use his best tool......

  • What do you think It will take to get Brett Gardner and/or David Phelps from the Yankees? Both of them could be a part of our puzzle and the yankees might be interested in Soriano if we pick up a large part of the salary.

  • In reply to Panama Cub:

    That's a lot to ask for Soriano even if the Cubs pay the whole salary. Gardner is a gold glove caliber OF'er with top notch speed and good OBP skills. I'd rather have him than Soriano even if the salaries were equal.

    That said, he'll b 30 next year and as a speed player, that means he's probably already passed his prime. He may be obtainable, but I think it would take more than Soriano.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    i disagree. hes not completely a speed player. just one of his best tools. and i think he still has 4-5 years of excellent value. however 0 chances of the yankees getting rid of him with swisher coming off the books.

  • I don't understand why we fans have to expect second tier type players as "stop gaps" until prospects come. What if these prospects don't work out? The cubs have plenty of money but need to be smart with it. I never see the cardinals or Yankee organization telling their fans to keep being patient. I guess I'm a frustrated fan that doesn't understand why a player like bj upton is not even going to be considered. Its not like he is going to be getting paid soriano money. I for one don't want to see anymore Ian Stewart or Chris volstad moves when have the 3rd highest ticket prices in baseball. The cardinals lose the best player in baseball and are still in the playoffs. Why cuz they spent wisely on a free agent like Beltran and mix veterans and young players.

  • In reply to Joshnk24:

    The Cards already had a good organization before they started signing FAs. They didn't take short cuts like the Cubs did a few years ago. They produced players from their farm, they took flyers on failed prospects like Chris Carpenter, Adam Wainwright, Joel Pineiro, Jeff Suppan, Braden Looper, etc. They've taken on bargain players like David Eckstein, Aaron Miles, Juan Encarnacion, and So Taguchi.

    It was a process.

    It's only been recently that they've started going after the bigger free agents and making trades for star players...because now they have the organizational depth to do those kinds of things.

    If you want the Cubs to be like the Cards and be able to compete with them year after year, it isn't going to happen overnight.

  • In reply to Joshnk24:

    Your own example answered that question: Look at how many John Jay/Allen Craig/David Freese-type major league role players come out of that system. And play well. AND help them win. Sure, they've signed a few free agents, but they're always building with the farm, and that's why they're always competitive. We haven't been able to say that for a while. The Cardinals, in the 2000's, have had the "waves and waves" of actual impact prospects that Theo talks about (and make the playoffs constantly and have won the WS twice). I get the feeling that our first major wave is down in Boise (who were in their championship game this year). So... patience.

  • In reply to Dan Bradley:

    Meanwhile, the Angels signed a top free agent and failed to get in. If your prospects aren't working, then get better prospects (and better teachers). They HAVE to work to win. Even the Yankees built around a few.
    Look at the Blackhawks as another example of doing things right: core prospects = Toews Kane Keith Seabs Bolland, etc... Fill it in with one star (Hossa), a young bargain diamond-in-the-rough (Sharp) and some grindy old-timers (Madden, Sopel) and they had themselves a Cup. But they had to build those kids, first.

  • In reply to Joshnk24:

    We are behind the 8 ball because we have about 80 years of foolish leadership that we are paying for all at once. The Cardinals have been drafting and developing rather well for the last 100 plus years, and have enough depth in their system to pluck a guy from the minors and plug him in.

    Good players are more willing to sign with good teams than bad ones. To sign with the Cubs, they often require a "You aren't a very good team" surcharge (see Soriano, Alfonso).

    This is why Theo Epstein is committed to a re-build. If things go as planned, in about 12 months, we will have enough talent in the bank to move forward without embarrassment. Until Baez, Almora, Soler, Vizcaino, Paniagua, and a few others step up, the truly good players will be out of our reach because good players don't like coming in fifth place.

  • In reply to Joshnk24:

    Look at the impact Dave McKay has had on our team. Now imagine if your entire organization was filled with coaches/trainers/mentors/teachers like that.... what kind of impact would that have on our team?.... Theo/Jed could spend and make us a .500 borderline playoff team which is what we've been for a while. they're changing this thing internally to make us the Cardinals, etc... and be able to "sustain" that success long term.

  • I think Id rather pay a couple extra bucks to Pagan on a 1 year deal than trade away good prospects, especially pitching prospects. This way if Brett is ready (or the team is ready to give him another shot) Pagan makes an attractive 4th OF to a contending team in need.

  • In reply to Cub Fan Dan:

    I'd take Pagan too if he's willing to take a one year deal, but I think he'll get at least 3. He's a good player, much more than a 4th OF'er.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I can't see the Giants letting Pagan slip away from them. He's had a helluva year and is a fan favorite. I was impressed with the way Sabean reworked his entire outfield last year with Cabrera, Pagan and Gregor Blanco.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    I wouldn't let him slip away either, especially with Cabrera's future in doubt.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    pagan has been one of the most underrated players since being called up imo. highly doubt the cubs can get him. he may not be a giant next year but highly unlikely hes a cub.

  • In reply to Cub Fan Dan:

    He is much more than a 4th OF'r. Perhaps in time when his speed/skills start to erode, but thats still a ways off (look at Sori). I don't remember thinking Pagan could be this good when he was with us. Did I just not see it, or have I burned those thoughts/images from my memory? IDK... having said that, I'd prefer acquiring any MLB talent via FA vs trading away prospects... we simply don't have the depth.

  • If memory serves, Justin Upton isn't really an option. I seem to recall him having a limited no-trade clause, in which he can block trades to the Cubs, Yankees, Red Sox, and Indians.

    If a team comes along and is willing to pay the Cubs a fair sum for Soriano (assuming the Cubs cover most of his salary), I'd guess they put LaHair in left field in a platoon with Dave Sappelt and hope for the best. Even if Soriano's back, I'm not opposed to Soriano-DeJesus-LaHair left to right.

    On the free agent market, obviously BJ Upton would be the best fit. Of course, he's also the least likely because of price and the prospect depth in center. I can see the Cubs pursuing Scott Hairston. Dude's got some pop, and is above-average defensively in the corners, and could play center in an emergency.

    Who all gets non-tendered could impact this. The market's rather thin.

  • In reply to Jim Weihofen:

    Players often put big market teams on no-trade clause lists to give them some leverage.

    Hairston does have some pop and some versatility. He could be in the picture as well.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    terrible obp for hairston. doesnt fit the new cubs mold imo.

  • Cody Ross would be a great choice - I'm seeing him have an even better offensive year next year than he did this one. Pagan would be nice too, though not as. And Bryan LaHair deserves another chance as well, and he's a cheap option. Chris Volstad screws the pooch and he gets second chance after second chance because the pundits say he's got potential. LaHair actually puts up big numbers then has a bad patch and he's on the bench because the pundits say he's not gonna pan out. Self-fulfilling prophesy that I'd love to see corrected next year.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Ross has some pop and a decent defender. It'd be a solid signing if he doesn't ask for a big contract.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Which he might, he was pretty clutch down the stretch. Maybe he'd accept shorter years if we overpaid him a bit.

  • In reply to John Arguello:


    Neither would, I'd imagine, Theo. He's part of the problem in Boston

  • In reply to Rob Letterly:

    He's not my first choice either. He's not bad, but he's also not as good as he thinks he is.

    I like Pagan, Young, Parra, and Gutierrez out of the names talked about in this article and this thread, but I have my doubts Pagan would be both available and willing to come to the Cubs.

  • It's funny to be pining after Angel Pagan isn't it? Now I do like the names from Arizona John brought up as well.

  • In reply to Tom Loxas:

    I was thinking that too. Next we'll be pushing hard for Matt Murton. ;)

  • In reply to Tom Loxas:

    It took him a while to get better. Didn't really have good instincts when he was with the Cubs, athletic but lots of bonehead mistakes. I don't watch him everyday so I don't know if that's still the case, but at least he's putting up great numbers these days.

  • Does anyone have a link to video or audio of Epstein addressing the media about the 2012 season? I'm having zero luck finding it. Any help will warrant a man hug... but don't let that stop you.

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  • In reply to SFToby:

    That's great, thanks!

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    I was wondering how you guys feel about this idea: Melky Cabrera. I'm not proposing anything, just throwing it out there. It wouldn't hurt to at least weigh the pros and cons. (With the big pro obviously being that he'd be cheap.)

  • In reply to João Lucas:

    Melky served his suspension and did the right thing by asking baseball make him ineligible for the batting crown and he played nice defense. I think he's play for a short contract, I think he'd prefer it.

  • Melky is kind of toxic right now , I don't see the Cubs going anywhere near him. I would love for the Cubs to get Chris Young, now is the time to get him while's sort of cheap. If he can turn it around, the Cubs can deal him for more than would give up to get him.

  • In reply to Steve Flores:

    He might be kind of toxic but he's probably better than much of the dross that's available.
    Melky screwed the pooch, ain't gonna get paid and is going to have something to prove.
    He probably would take a short deal so he gets another shot at a payday if he does good.

  • In reply to Steve Flores:

    If Michael Vick can come back into football with as little animosity as he did, I think Melky can as well. Its not like we're voting him into the hall or anything.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    Keep in mind that the Cubs value character and Cabrera not only did something illegal, he then tried to cover it up with a ridiculous ruse. He did the right thing, but only after he was caught.

    This just doesn't seem like the guy the Cubs would bring into a rebuilding process, regardless of his ability as a hitter.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    His Giant teammates had nothing but good things to say about him (other than he cheated) - but you've got a good point.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Exactly John, it's not that I think Melky is toxic and should not be touched . The Cubs are really big into character now and Cabrera is a known cheater .

  • In reply to Steve Flores:

    Well, then let's re-sign Joe Mather.
    He has good character.

    Here's a plus to Melky... if he gets busted again it's 100 games.
    Or more likely, career ending.
    Chances of him doing it again are low.
    And if he does he's gonna hit the hell out of the ball till he gets caught.

  • In reply to eaton53:

    Right, no in between. It's either Mather or a doper. ON THREE!

  • In reply to Steve Flores:

    His current teammates didn't have much to say about him. His former teammates have plenty, and it ain't good.


  • Say what you want.... but IMO, David DeJesus is the smartest man in Baseball. I mean he's okay as a player. Not great, not terrible... But he gets paid $5 mil a year to scratch his nuts in the OF @ Wrigley and then goes home and bangs Kim....

  • In reply to HoosierDaddy:

    OK, I'll say what I want: That comment does not reflect well on you, nor this site.

  • In reply to StillMissKennyHubbs:

    I'd consider myself lucky just to to walk on the Wrigley turf someday.
    I've never done it. Don't know why, but I should before my days are up.

  • In reply to eaton53:

    I'd recommend it. Even my wife, a lifelong Sox fan, was in awe at the moment, particularly when you consider the history of everyone who had stepped on that field.

  • In reply to StillMissKennyHubbs:

    Neither does thought policing.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    ....Which you are doing yourself.
    BTW, what does "say what you want" mean ?
    I exercise the privilege of pointing out sexist, nudge-nudge old-boy bs if I see it.

  • In reply to StillMissKennyHubbs:

    I love that simple logic. Because you instantly contradict yourself unless you believe that asking someone not to talk during a movie at a theater is equally as bad as talking during a movie at a theater. But exercise that privilege away, old boy. Personal attacks and teenage angst pay off well. Nudge, nudge.

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    In reply to StillMissKennyHubbs:

    it might not reflect well. but then again it made me look her up and then i had to pick my jaw up off the floor

  • I'd be fine with most of these guys on a one year deal - it's not a marriage so why sweat the details?

    I do not want Delmon Young. First, and most importantly, he's a bad ballplayer. The guy hits exactly one pitch: The low fastball. He can't hit anything offspeed. His plate discipline is crap. As an outfielder, he makes an outstanding DH.

    He's also a really bad guy, which would maybe be tolerable if he weren't awful as a pro baseball player. As a replacement level player, it's completely unacceptable. Young would have been out of baseball years ago if not for his pedigree and 1st overall draft pick status. No thank you.

  • In reply to Eddie:

    Not a fan either. It's safe to say Tampa made a mistake with that pick, but they did correct it quickly by trading him for Matt Garza.

  • After reading the article and comments, I like the Lahair/Sappelt platoon. They are already Cubs and affordable. Lahair had an up and down season, but handled it well and managed to put up decient numbers. As long as we are talking short term, why not?

  • In reply to 44slug:

    That could well be the case with DeJesus moving to CF. Offensively that would be an acceptable outfield for one year.

    The biggest drawback would be that, despite Soriano's improvement, it would not be a great defensive OF with DeJesus in CF and LaHair in RF. Not a whole lot of speed or range there.

  • Not to become BOSTON EAST, but what about checking in on Jacoby Ellsbury? I've always been intrigued by that guy. If I remember correctly, he has a nice contract, great all around skills, and rumored at one point that he might be made available? I also throw it out there since the Red Sox are retooling themselves.

  • In reply to cubs25:

    Perhaps if Boston is willing to sell cheap. He's arb eligible and could get paid big. Boston can afford it, but they've been trying to keep their payroll low, so who knows?

    I could be wrong here but I think they'll keep him.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    cubs25 beat me to the punch, I was also wondering about the Ellsbury situation given his history with Theo. What exactly his his contract situation, I thought his deal with the Sox ended this year? He's going to want big money and years, but he did have a lousy year, why wouldn't Theo kick the tires there?

  • In reply to Ryno2Grace:

    He might, but I think he'll get sticker shock and walk away.

  • In reply to cubs25:

    Ellsbury made over 8 million this season and he'll be eligible for free agency and on the wrong side of 30 after next season.

  • Sorry. I meant Boston West.

  • Elsbury is risky for multiple reasons.

    1) it will cost you prospects at a time when you really shouldn't be dealing prospects (unless it's for a long term pitcher...). and

    2) It's would be Epstoyer's initial foray into the Scott Boras business. And that gets really complicated. Not only are you paying top dollar ( A Boras Staple) but you then become a staple in Boras proceedings for everyone of his clients. The fact that he has a relationship with you, he will use the Cubs as "interested" in order to get his clients top dollar. And the Cubs aren't ready to be that kind of "player" with those kinds of headaches.... Maybe in two or three years. But not now.

    I like the idea of Boujours. I also wonder if Baez or Vitters see time in the Iowa/Tennessee outfield this year...

  • In reply to felzz:

    Vitters maybe. I don't see the Cubs moving Baez until they absolutely have to. There's more positional value at SS and 3B than in the corner OF spots. The Cubs would need a very good reason to move Baez off the infield and I don't see one in the organization at this point.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Starlin Castro's not a good enough reason?

    I'm at a disadvantage because I haven't seen Baez play. So maybe his skills translate better to third. But when you're athletic enough to play SS, you can play in the OF as well. I think getting Baez in the lineup is more important than getting him in the field. I know Vitters, Baez and Villanueva all can't play 3rd base in 2015.

  • In reply to felzz:

    Castro could block him at SS, but not 3B. I wouldn't move Baez to the OF unless I had to. The reason has to do with positional value more than whether or not he can play the OF. I have little doubt he can play there and play it well.

    You can always put big boppers with questionable gloves in a corner OF spot, but having a guy who can bop and play 3B at potentially a gold glove level just gives you more overall value. It's much easier to find a bat and stick him in a corner OF spot, which has less defensive value to teams (particularly LF). That's why I can see Vitters moving to the OF before Baez if he figures things out at the plate.

    In some ways, I like Baez at SS because I like his mentality and approach there, and I think he could better handle the nuances of the position. Range and arm are pretty close. He's not as fluid as Starlin, though. Doesn't look quite as natural out there to me.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    i will say this too. if their athletically enough for short your not just talking about a corner outfield spot. should be able to play center as well. this is coming from someone who played shortstop and centerfield imo.

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    What about Ichiro or Tori Hunter, knowing they can be dealt in July when Jackson or someone else is ready. Could net some prospects and could avoid being a joke out there next year?

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    In reply to Niren Desai:

    Or Swisher for RF with Dejesus?

  • In reply to Niren Desai:

    Sure, but would Swisher want to come to the Cubs when he's likely to have plenty of better options than a 1-2 year deal with a team projected to finish last?

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    idk if hes that likely to have better that many better options. from what i was hearing alot of gms have cooled on him and think a lot of his power comes from the rest of the offense. average hitter good obp and average defense and aging isnt really targeted by too many teams. see david dejesus with an additional 10 homers at wrigley

  • In reply to Niren Desai:

    I think ideally he's the kind of player the Cubs would want. My thought, though, is that Torii will get some feelers from contenders and if I were him, I probably wouldn't come to Chicago unless they vastly overpaid. Even then I wouldn't be sure. With his career coming to an end and him having plenty of financial security, I would think he'd prefer to go to a WS contender.

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    Some good ideas here......if we assume that we are not contending next year, AND that we have some possible in-house options down the road (B-Jax, Szczur, Almora), we basically need a stop-gap.

    What is the scouting report in Dave Sappelt in CF?

    An inexpensive get might be Franklin Guitierrez; he has lost his job in Seattle, he is club-controlled for a year, and plays a great CF. Seattle could also use LaHair. Maybe a match there?

  • In reply to Zonk:

    I like that idea a lot. Move would fit for both teams. Nicely done.

    A reader also suggested Logan Morrison on Twitter, that's intriguing to me too as a buy low guy.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    now we're talking. Guiterrez don't hit much, but damn he can throw the leather around.

    And Morrison? Why not? Ozzie don't like him, but Ozzie is crazy.

  • In reply to Rob Letterly:

    Would really like to see Gutierrez patrol CF in Wrigley. Good stopgap solution who might regain some value if healthy and productive.

    Morrison is young enough to be a core piece. Great hitter in the minors, nice approach. Could be a nice gamble now that the price tag has probably fallen a bit.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    i would love lomo on the team.

    i can't believe i am saying this, but what about nate mclouth ...he has done well down the stretch for the o's this year ...what does his contract look like?

  • In reply to waitingOn2015:

    He did seem to finally find his stroke after all these years. That said, he's on the wrong side of 30 and any kind of improvement over a longer sample size is unlikely.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Morrison doesn't play CF though, does he?

  • In reply to TheFiveYearPlan:

    Nyjer Morgan does, and nobody has mentioned his name yet.

  • In reply to Zonk:

    Sappelt isn't a great CF, doesn't take great routes, the Cubs would prefer to move DeJesus there.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    One of the few bright spots is Sappelt as a 4th or 5th OF. But I never ever considered him as any more than an emergency CF.

    With all his speed, you'd think Campana would be CF. But he can't play there, and I think THAT, more than his supposed inability to get on base, is what holds him back.

  • In reply to Rob Letterly:

    I think it's a combination of both. Campana makes up for a lot of flaws with his speed in CF, but overall the defense is average at best -- and that is certainly not good enough to make up for the lack of OBP skills on offense.

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    In reply to Zonk:

    he didnt lose his job though. he just got hurt ftw.

  • Does anyone know when the deadlines are for the PTBNL in the Soto and Baker trades?

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