Alfonso Soriano clears waivers; Could Giants be interested? Marmol also clears

Alfonso Soriano clears waivers; Could Giants be interested? Marmol also clears

According to Jon Heyman, Alfonso Soriano has officially cleared waivers.  Not that there was ever any doubt.  There's not a team out there that wants that salary.

But the timing is interesting.

Giants all-star LF Melky Cabrera was suspended for 50 games for testing positive for unnaturally high testosterone levels.  He's out for the year and the Cubs just so happen to have a very productive LF they'd like to trade at the right price.  Soriano was hitting  .264/.319/.490 when the day started with 21 HRs and 71 RBI.

There were rumors shortly before the trade deadline that the Cubs had a trade offer from the Giants, but that Soriano vetoed the deal.  According to an excellent source from Tom Loxas, we believe it never got that far, though it's likely that Soriano's name came up at some point.

The Giants may be much more motivated now even with the acquisition of Hunter Pence, who has hit just .186 since arriving.  The Giants are currently tied for 1st in the AL West and trail the Pirates by 1/2 game for the second wild card spot.

Heyman indicated that the Cubs were willing to pay Soriano's salary down to $3M/yr.  There were also rumors that Tampa might be interested if the Cubs pay 90% of the salary.

Of course, Soriano has to approve any deal because of his no trade clause.

In other news, Carlos Marmol also cleared waivers in what was also a formality.  The market for Marmol should be a bit bigger as teams are always looking to upgrade their bullpen.  Marmol is no longer dominant, but has had a 3.60 ERA since June 1st, has not blown a save since April 24th (13 SVs), and has allowed just a .292 wOBA in high leverage situations.  It's also encouraging that Marmol's average velocity is up about 2 mph (93-94), which was more in line with his more successful seasons.

A source I spoke with felt that there was a much better chance to trade Marmol than Soriano.

The deadline for teams to acquire players and still put them on their playoff rosters is August 31st.

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  • Marmol's cleared waivers too.

  • Thanks, I just updated that too. That was in the same Heyman tweet.

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    So according to Jon Heyman, the Cubs were willing to pay all but 6 million of Soriano's contract and a team said no? That makes no sense to me. If I am a contender, I would take Soriano for 3 million a year in a heartbeat.

  • In reply to Demarrer:

    Maybe the Cubs were asking for a lot in return to eat that much salary....maybe the Gaints sweeten the pot now that Melky is out for the season? Could it happen that Theo move all the dead weight contracts in his first full season?

  • In reply to Demarrer:

    It could have been the prospects the Cubs wanted back. Or it could have been teams just playing chicken and thinking Theo would back down and pay all of it.

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    Any word on DeJesus? I'd assume he'd be claimed within 5 minutes of hitting the wire but, who knows. He might be an acceptable option for the Giants.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    i have a feeling the Cubs would like to hang on to DeJesus with Jackson's struggles as well as the potential departures of Soriono and LaHair. I think he might provide more value to the Cubs next year then other teams would value him. Of course if a team got desperate and offered Cubs a top10-15 prospect maybe they would move him.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    I haven't heard, though I think he'd be claimed by some contender. Someone will claim him, even if it's just to block a trade -- especially by a team trying to catch the Giants.

  • The Giants should jump at the chance to get Soriano, they won't give hardly anything and the Cubs will eat most of the salary, what's not to like ?? This makes too much sense not to happen.

  • In reply to Steve Flores:

    It would seem so, but tough to work with that unwieldy contract and strike a balance between paying down the contract and getting worthwhile prospects in return.

  • A team would have to give the cubs a top prospect it they are going to pay up to 90% of his contract. If not then the cubs might as well keep soriano, rather than pay for soriano to play somewhere else and get nothing. Its not like soriano is blocking someone like soler or almora.

  • In reply to seankl:

    Agreed, and that's part of the reason, other than the NTC, that it will be so difficult to trade Sori.

  • If Soriano actually did veto a trade to S.F., there's no reason to believe he'd consider it now.

  • He didn't veto a deal, it never got that far, but some say he wouldn't be interested in going to SF. That could always change.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Dempster also said he wouldn't go to the AL...or anywhere but LA for that matter. Circumstances change.

    All that being said, my own source never sounded optimistic on a Soriano trade.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Think he's regretting the move to the AL at this point? That guy was caught between a rock and a hard spot: pitch for fans who were likely to make his life rather unpleasant, or get knocked all around the field in that launching pad they call Arlington Stadium. I'm sure, at some point, I'll feel bad for him. Maybe if Vizcaino wins a Cy Young.

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    He has to be. Maholm has been great in Atlanta too.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I find it odd that Soriano would approve an LA trade but not a SF trade. Maybe the Cubs could give Soriano some kind of handshake agreement that he would have a future with the Cubs in some capacity if he agrees to trade. I think Soriano could have some kind of use mentoring/instructing some young Dominicans. He seems to really enjoy helping the younger players like Castro and I would assume guys like Castillo, Dolis and Cabrera as well.

  • In reply to Holycow!78:

    I don't think it's that strange. LA has a much larger Latino community and also has much nicer weather. Don't forget that famous Twain quote about SF's summers....

  • In reply to Holycow!78:

    We don't know all the circumstances, so hard to speculate what the difference is -- or if that rumor is even true. I think trying to move Soriano is difficult, so I'm not holding my breath, but if he agrees to go to SF, it seems like the perfect opportunity.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Yes I agree great opportunity. Sure hope he considers/reconsiders it. Its the situation we were hoping for a major contender with a sudden desperate need.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Only Soriano and the 2 teams' front offices would know if he vetoed a deal, wouldn't they?

  • Our source was as good as you can get on this and I'll leave it at that.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Hmmm.... do we have any pictures of Theo talking with a masked blogger at a Starbucks near Wrigley field?

  • In reply to Mike Moody:

    Ha! Not Theo :) .but someone who would know. No offer was ever made by SF.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I understand.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Per RotoWorld, Soriano told the Cubs at the July 31st deadline that he wasn't open to a move to the Giants and he probably would not approve a trade to them now.

  • That is more plausible. I can believe he doesn't want to go to SF, perhaps for the reasons stated above by Pure Vida. I just don't believe he has officially turned them down.

  • Felix just tossed up a perfecto... wish the Cubs had a surplus of prospects to make a run at him next year. Doubt he makes it to FA later on.

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    In reply to ChiRy:

    If I were the Cubs, I would send Castro plus whatever they want for the King this offseason. I would give them whatever they want and lock the king up for a 10 yr contract. Yes, I said 10 yrs. He is that good.

  • In reply to Jim Odirakallumkal:

    I don't see the Mariners trading Hernandez, or re-signing him for that matter since he's already knocking on the $20M/yr door. Rather than give up a massively talented SS, I think Theo and Jed would be more inclined to go hard after him after 2014 when he reaches free agency. They will hopefully be ready to compete by that point and would be hard pressed to find a better ace for the top of their deck. Soriano's contract will be gone and they figure to be able to afford him.

  • Package deal maybe? How's the Giants' closer situation been since Brian Wilson went down?

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    I'd love to get Kyle Crick for both of them and maybe another piece.

  • From Nathan Aderhold, MLB Daily Dish (for what it's worth) :
    "Marmol, 29, is still owed $9.8 million next season and has put up dreadful numbers that have likely hurt his trade value. The right-hander owns a 4.46 ERA and 11.1 K/9, but has an MLB-worst 8.4 BB/9."
    Those "dreadful numbers" apparently ignore his recent success. So much for "What have you done for me lately", for once.....

  • A little tangent to the Melk-man, but with him getting caught taking PEDs. Check out what Victor Conte said on ESPN.com today. He estimates that 50% of MLB players are using PEDs. He bases this off his conversations with top players. I know this came up about a month ago and there were a few of us that believe this is still rampant.

    I've played with guys in MLB and all their firsthand stories are consistent. I haven't seen it with my own eyes, but it's hard to discount 20 people that tell the same types of lies while all at different geographic locations, especially when one of those sources ends up on the Mitchell Report.

  • In reply to Greg Shuey:

    As with the Home Run Chase between Sosa and McGwire, Selig gave tacit approval to the use of PEDs in MLB because fans were coming back to the parks. As long as attendance is good MLB will continue to skirt the issue.

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