Source says Cubs will make trades and have had offers for Garza, expects Maholm to be dealt

Source says Cubs will make trades and have had offers for Garza, expects Maholm to be dealt

According to a source, the Cubs are holding firm on the price they've set for pitchers like Ryan Dempster, Matt Garza, as well as all the available players on their roster.  The asking price is out there and that's where the Cubs stand right now.  It's a matter of interested teams willing to pay what the Cubs believe is fair value for their players.

As for Matt Garza, he didn't rule out that the Cubs won't trade him.  The Cubs have received offers for him but are waiting for teams to sweeten the pot.  Interested teams are in the process of evaluating what it costs to land Garza as compared to other available pitchers.

The source also said that he expects that this was Paul Maholm's last start.  This is contrary to my own feeling on this, but this is more based on hearing in the past how teams seem to value Maholm more as a back of the rotation type guy.  However, considering LHP pitchers such as Wandy Rodriguez and Francisco Liriano have been dealt recently, it's possible that there are teams out there willing to take on a steady, if unspectacular arm like Maholm.  Especially when his contract represents good value in that its at a reasonable salary with a club option, potentially giving the acquiring team an extra year of control.   You can only hope the price is closer to what was paid for Rodriguez than for Liriano.  If it's the latter, I highly doubt that Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer will pull the trigger.

Doug Padilla reports that teams are beginning to call on Alfonso Soriano, but the source I spoke to wouldn't speculate on the chances of that happening and that it may not happen before the season ends.  He did believe there was a chance that a team could bite on Carlos Marmol during the August waiver trade period.

One last thing, this source is not worried that the Cubs will stand pat and assured me that I'll have some new prospects to cover in the next couple of days.

That last part was music to my ears.  You can bet we'll have the goods on any and all new Cubs prospects shortly after they are acquired.

UPDATE: Tom has a source that says to expect a couple of deals and the insinuation was that they would not be minor ones.  That corroborates the idea that the Cubs will get multiple prospects.

 

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  • Please wake me if & when something happens.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    Will do :)

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    John thtas msic to our ears too, seems liek the last 3 weeks have been longer than th last 8 months!!!

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    I hope he's right. He didn't sound worried at all that the Cubs would make a deal. Just seems like a matter of time and there's stuff going on.

  • Another great article, John! I fully expect the Cubs to stick to their guns as to what they believe their players are worth.

  • Thanks Ray! I totally expect them to stick to their guns. Kap said something similar a couple of days ago.

  • Yea there is no way Theo and Jed will trade Maholm for a bunch of C or D prospects. He has more value to the team if he stays in chicago in that case. I don't expect Theo to ask for the moon, but Maholm has been dominant in the last month so I expect Theo try and capitalize on that success.

  • In reply to cubsrock1988:

    Maholm today became the 1st Cub lefty in the modern era to go at least 6 innings and give up 1 run or less in 6 consecutive starts.

  • In reply to cubsrock1988:

    I expect them to either get decent prospects or they'll keep him. No elite guys, but they'll want guys who they can at least use down the road.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    More than filler, I mean.

  • P.S. As one of your many intelligent commenters posted before, the trade deadline is Tuesday, 3 p.m., Chicago time.

  • Less than 48 hours away!

  • Many GM's panic around this time, but Theo/Jed will not do that.
    Even though I want good/great prospects for our players I must
    given them credit for sticking to their plan.

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    That's why they get paid the big bucks. Many of us would have freaked out and maybe settled for less than full value. They won't do that, even if it means not making a deal. But it really seems now that they will.

  • Finally some good news

    While i agree maholm is worth holding onto, if someone comes with a decent package i certainly wouldnt hesitate

    Cool news on sori,props to him for stepping up his play

    Cant wait for something to happen

  • John,

    with two GMs in the FO, how much is Theo involved in talks as Prez? Do he and Jed talk to teams on speaker phone? Separately? Is only one of them fielding calls? Just curious.

    Any indication from your source on Demp's willingness to go somewhere other than LA?

  • In reply to cubbie steve:

    Jed is involved in the more day to day talks. I think Theo gets involved as it gets closer.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Or when there are teams/execs that he knows better. But that's just a guess.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I saw or read something to that effect from either Jed or Theo. Sorry for the inexactness of this non-quote.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I saw an interview with Jed during the winter meetings where he said he and Theo split up the teams they work with. I remember thinking that was smart.

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    I'd wager the toupee was fling off his head with thesmoke he was blowing!!! I really believe they would prefer Garza though

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    Coletti was just on MLBNR. He was asked about Dempster. He said he wouldn't comment publicly on other teams players, but he said the Dodgers felt good about their rotation, and they were more focused on adding bats and improving their bullpen. Taking him at his word, maybe Dempster really has boxed himself in by insisting he be dealt to a team that feels it doesn't need him. Of course, Coletti could be blowing smoke too.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Everybody is blowing smoke these days.

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    George Offman just twittered that Garza is off the market for now, saying the Cubs will trade him this ofseason.,,I wouldn't be surprised to see him dealt

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    I think the chances are low and I think he's off the market in the sense that the Cubs aren't talking about him. But if somebody came in and added to their offer, the Cubs will listen.

  • Since they have a night game on Tuesday and the deadline is
    at 3(4) pm. does that mean they really have until late Monday to
    make a deal.

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    No, they can make a deal even during the game.

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    Local rumors out of Cincinnati have the Reds in talks with the Rays for James Shields.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Wow...after paying big for Matt Latos, which didn't work out...at least not yet.

  • I hope the Reds do go for Shields, makes Dempster more attractive . With all this trade rumor, I'm just going to sit back and wait...too much chatter. With Garza's injury, the Cubs knew other times would try to lowball the Cubs, best to wait.

  • In reply to Steve Flores:

    Exactly. Take him off the market to a team that wasn't going to get Demp anyway.

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    If I'm guessing, here is what I'm thinking........Maholm is headed to either Pittsburgh or Detroit and I think will be packaged with reed Johnson......Dempster is headed to Atlanta for the same package as earlier after he realizes Theo did everything he could to get him to la...... Marmol and soriano move after the deadline in a few minor deals...... I would love to see Garza packaged with vitters to Texas for olt and a few arms, but I don't see it.

  • In reply to Rich Cap:

    I like the way you think. Let's hope Theo/Jed make it so.

  • In reply to Rich Cap:

    Interesting scenarios. And I agree that Garza probably least likely to go, but can't rule it out based on what we've heard.

  • John

    These sure are exciting times for baseball fans!!!

    I realize I'm in the slim minority, but I'd still rather hold onto and build around Garza, Dempster, and Malholm. Why?

    1) The likelihood of getting any useful prospects for the above 3 is slim to none. Here's a DIRECT quote from John's February "Trading Garza is far from a guarantee to bring back top MLB talent" column :

    " The point is that while it's exciting to get a package of top prospects, the likelihood that any of the players will be nearly as good as the player you are trading are slim at best. Sometimes you get lucky, as the Orioles did with Adam Jones, but for the most part these teams were worse off for having traded their front line pitcher."

    2) With Shark approaching his innings limit and Wood struggling, our rotation without the above three is going to be really, really ugly! I can't see the Cubs winning ANY games with a rotation of Volstead (sp?), Wells, Coleman, Lopez, and Wood

    Thanks and have a good one...

  • In reply to DropThePuck:

    Haha! It seems a risk the Cubs are willing to take, possibly because they don't plan on re-signing Garza...at least not at this point. And they probably don't think they can win next year. Hopefully we're one of the lucky teams where the trade works out.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I saw bleacherReport? "top 100 worst baseball trades of all-time" article not too long ago. The Cubs were on there about 5 or 6 times, but they were the winners for all but one, and I'm 100% positive that everyone knows which one that is....of course, as Cub fans we always think of that one, and neglect to remember the others.

  • In reply to cubbie steve:

    I wrote a best and worst trades in Cubs history over a year ago. I'll dig it up if you want.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Would be interesting.

    For all the abuse Hendry has taken from fans (some deserved), I've always loved the Lee trade, Dodgers trade for Karros and Grudz, & the Lofton, Ramirez, Simon trades. Seems Hendry got hosed in basically any trade for a relief pitcher....

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    Hey John if Chicago is someway able to trade Soriano, do you think that it would be disrespectful of me to throw a party for getting rid of his contract with a few of my cubs fan friends. HA HA HA

  • In reply to Larry:

    Not at all. Save me a beer.

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    Worrying about how many more games the rotation wins this year has no relevance to the long term plan. If the return for Garza holds minimal value then keep him. An extension next year may be OK, but trades should be made with 2014 in mind. Garza could be on the team at that time. Same with Wood. Maybe Russell. The only players (minus injury) that we should expect to see on Opening Day roster in 2014 are Castro, Rizzo and Samardzia.

  • In reply to Louie101:

    Agreed.

  • In reply to Louie101:

    Exactly. And since this isn't a playoff team, I say make sure we get the no. 1 overall pick.

  • In reply to Louie101:

    I wouldn't be at all surprised if Barney were on the 2014 roster.
    The guy is a decent stick for his position and plays stellar defense.

  • I hope these all happen tomorrow. I'm experiencing some kind of shaky hands trade withdrawal. Scanning blogs, checking google news for recently updated shit, constantly reloading the MLB Trade Rumors site. I'm actively staying away from Twitter (and not just because it's Twitter for a change), just to put off the impending intervention my girlfriend has planned for me ever since she caught me smoking a crumpled up Jon Heyman article out of a hookah.

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    LOL...it'll all be over soon and you can begin to heal.

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    Ha that is Hilarious.

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    Per Mike Ferrin and Kevin Goldstein, the Giants have aquired Hunter Pence pending owner approval

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    More incentive for the Dodgers to acquire Dempster.

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    In reply to Carne Harris:

    The Pence thing was debunked, but the Giants don't plan on sitting still they'll counter the LA moves..Gammons thinks Dempsters a MUST for LA, but his cred isn't what it used to be..Hopefully Demp gets movd elsewhere and tell LA to piss off

  • Except for the Dempster brat act, the Cubs trading chips have done their part on the field lately to show case their worth. It has been fun to win few games and may help with the future as well. Great games yesterday and today. I hope that we can still win after the deadline.

  • In reply to 44slug:

    They've been playing good baseball. I hope it bodes well. Castro is starting to hit and Rizzo has been as good as advertised so far. Looks like they have something to build on at least.

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    Team are wondering if the Rays are really serious about trading Shields. According to several different reports, the Rays are asking for a price north of what MIL got for Greinke.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    The Rays often due this at the deadline, gauging value, pulling them back and then looking to trade them in the winter when there are more teams willing to make a deal.

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