Cubs Rumors and notes (update): LaHair, Tigers, Cardinals, Mets, Rangers, Red Sox

Cubs Rumors and notes (update): LaHair, Tigers, Cardinals, Mets, Rangers, Red Sox

Nothing big happening yet, but who knows.  Theo and Jed play this so close to the vest that for all we know, they could be announcing a deal before I finish this piece....

  • (Updated 4:25 pm) Jayson Stark tweeted the following, "Execs of 2 teams who spoke to Cubs this week say they're mentioning Bryan LaHair's name regularly in trade talks. Since 5/15: .220/.278/.341".  LaHair's biggest value right now is as a LH power bat who is cost controlled for the next several years.  LaHair would be a relatively low risk to a team because he can still provide value off the bench and could serve as a stopgap 1B or OF for a team in need of some punch.  LaHair's future with the Cubs is limited because of the presence of Anthony Rizzo and the probability that he won't be able to play OF long term.
  • (Updated 12:31) The Tigers will not discuss 3B Nick Castellanos but may be willing to part with RHP Jacob Turner and Futures Game all-star C Rob Brantly, as well as LHP Casey Crosby and RHP and closer prospect Bruce Rondon.  While I'd like Castellanos (who wouldn't?), there is surely a pretty good package that could be made for the players they are making available, though it would have to be headlined by Turner to even get the Cubs attention.
  • The Cardinals have let it be known that they are willing to deal former top prospect RHP Shelby Miller, and when I mean former, I mean as early as the beginning of this year.  When healthy, Miller has a plus-plus fastball that sits in the mid-to upper 90s with late movement.  To make it even more difficult, he throws it with an effortless delivery that gives him some deception.  The curveball and changeup are average with a chance to be plus pitches, combined with good control and command, he has the makings of a front line pitcher.  That's the good news.  The bad news is his 6.17 ERA this season with an FIP (5.67), that doesn't lend much hope that it's some sort of fluke.  Miller is still making batters swing and miss (10.47 K rate), but his walk rate has risen from 3.43 to 5.00 and he's been susceptible to the gopher ball (a career high 1.98 after 0.21 last year).
  • The Mets could become suitors as well.  They are in the thick of the wildcard race (1.5 games back) and NL East race (4.5 GB).  They just lost starting pitcher Dillon Gee.  RHP Matt Harvey is having a breakout year in AAA, but the Mets may want to give him a shot at a rotation rather than give him up for a rental.  RHP Zack Wheeler is one of the games top prospects in AA after the Mets acquired him for Carlos Beltran.  He is almost certainly off limits.
  • Phil Rogers overheard during the All-Star weekend that the Rangers are waiting on LHP Cole Hamels but if he doesn't become available, they may look at Ryan Dempster.  The implication here is that Texas is looking strictly at a rental, so they're not going to want to overpay.  But Dempster should merit a good prospect, perhaps in a team's 5-10 range -- or more depending on the market, which seems to be huge right now.  The Rangers have enough depth where if the Cubs could get at talented player.  Players like LHP Martin Perez and RHP Neil Ramirez have seen their stock drop with poor seasons.  The Cubs could make an upside player for someone like that but they also may instead turn their attention to someone like 20 year old Cody Buckel, who doesn't have ideal size or velocity, but has the breaking stuff, command, and pitchability to be a #3 guy.  He was having a tremendous year for Texas' advanced A ball affiliate (1.31 ERA, 2.97/10.62 walk to K ratio) and has held up after his promotion to AA ball (3.22 ERA).  And yes, I know you're all probably thinking about 3B Mike Olt, but he is likely out of range for a Dempster rental and rising star 2B Rougned Odor may not be available either.
  • In other news, Marlins pick LHP Andrew Heaney, the 9th overall pick, was told by the team that they will not sign him. Heaney was considered the best LHP in the draft and perhaps the most polished of any pitcher.  The Marlins are trying to pay him $2.6M though his slot value is $2.8M.  It's possible that Miami is trying to clear space to sign 2nd round pick, local H.S. star 3B Avery Romero, who has a commitment to Florida and also remains unsigned.  If Heaney were to go back into the draft, he could come into the 2013 nearly ready to enter an MLB rotation, though his upside is more of a #3 type starter.
  • Mike Sullivan of the Boston Herald writes that the Cubs aren't really interested in Red Sox OF Ryan Sweeney, though the Red Sox are said to be making him and other OF'ers available.  The Sweeney rumor came out a couple of days ago and it was said the Cubs could be interested, but it made little sense to me at the time.  Sure, it's possible as a throw-in stop gap guy, but why would the Cubs use their resources for a  replacement level , part-time player when they can sign someone off the free agent bargain bin?
  • Sullivan also writes that, "a major league source said the Sox have expressed preliminary interest in Garza and Dempster, but he added that they are “not fully engaged yet.”

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  • I would be all over Shelby Miller if he's available. For a guy rated as highly as he has been for the past few seasons, and as close to "ready" as he could be, it would seem like a great fit.

    I also don't understand the Sweeney rumor. It makes no sense to me. We have 3 good starting OF now, plus Johnson/Campana. And personally, I would like to see Bjax come up once all the trade dust settles, and see what the kid has. He has well over a full year in AAA under his belt now.

  • In reply to bwenger:

    Sweeney's just a guy to me, should be an extra OF'er, and if you get him as a throw-in, fine...but really don't want him in the way when prospects are ready.

  • I called in today to MLB Radio and talked to Mike Ferrin and Jim Duquette. Both agree that the Jays are a very good fit for both sides. They also think Dempster could net something similar to Beltran last year, which would be one top prospect.

  • In reply to WickitCub:

    A Beltran type return for Dempster would be insane. Not that I wouldn't take it, but it's still insane for a team to do that.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Because of the numbers he is putting up he is showing to be one of the elite pitchers this year. You dont get a good steak for the price of a hamburger.

  • In reply to WickitCub:

    Good results in terms of ERA, but peripheral numbers not a whole lot different than usual. Biggest difference is getting the HRs down. His xFIP is the same as his career average (and the same as Garza).

    BABIP is way down as well, so there may be some regression, although part of it is he's been pitching to the defense better this year.

    Dempster may be steak, but he's not the finest cut and he'll come slightly cheaper because his expiration date is arriving soon. He'll get a good return, but not an elite prospect, imo.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I also think thedy should hold onto Dempster until closer to the deadline. So all of the other pitching trade chips are moved. One more think if it is a staight up trade Olt for Dempster they might do it, because other teams maybe want Olt and another player or players.

  • In reply to WickitCub:

    That risks Dempster cooling off or being ineffective after coming back from the injury.

    IMO, sell ASAP, while he is hot.

  • Hamels having a better year I guess? Does seem odd even if that's the case

  • In reply to Mikethoms:

    Hamels is a rental, though, who seems as if he will either re-sign with the Phillies or test the FA market. Teams can always act irrationally, but you don't trade one of the top 10 prospects in the game for 2 1/2 months of any pitcher, no matter how good a year he's having -- unless you have some sort of implicit agreement where he re-signs with your team, but I don't think Hamels would do that.

    Bogus rumor, in my opinion.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    What are the odds that Hamels is willing to sign with the Cubs this offseason.

  • In reply to Larry:

    Unless the Cubs substantially outbid everyone, I'd say close to zero. Phillies look like they're making one last push for an extension.

  • How are struggling pitchers like Miller, Ramirez and Perez valued, in the midst of poor seasons? For instance, I'm assuming that coming into the season Shelby Miller would've been headlining any Cards trade. Is he more of mid-tier or throw in now, or is he still a headliner, but one the team ismuch more willing to part with?

    Would a trade woth St Louis begin with Miller or just include him? Who else do they have of interest?

  • In reply to cubbie steve:

    Miller would probably be the headliner but it likely won't get them Garza at this stage. Maybe Dempster. Lots of reasons not to like Dempster going to St. Louis from our standpoints as fans, but Cubs will simply try to get the best player they can.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    They have other top prospects, notably RHP Carlos Martinez, who has surpassed Miller, and OF Oscar Tavares. I think both are pretty close to untouchable, but Cubs will ask for premium if they trade with Cards, they'll have to beat other teams offers. 2B Kolten Wong is another premium prospect.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    The Cubs won't contend for the next 2-3 years, most likely, and Dempster probably only pitches another 2-3 years, so it wouldn't be as painful for me to see Dempster traded to a hated rival. It's highly unlikely he would be hurting us in the standings when we are finally ready to contend, so if STL has the best package, why not deal him there?

  • In reply to Just Win:

    Agreed. But they do have to have the best package. Tie goes to the other team.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I'd say tie goes to the Cardinals. Let's deplete their farm system so they can get a short term rental. I don't care how they do this year. I just want them to be worse than us in a couple of years :)

  • In reply to Kevin Heckman:

    That's another way to look at it!

  • I just read that Castellanos could be available in a Hamels trade. Why not Garza?

  • Ray, I don't believe that the Tigers would be that short-sighted. I think that rumor is bogus.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I believe you're right, John. I could see the Tigers including Castellanos in a trade for Hamels only if they signed Hamels first.

  • The Castellanos-Hamels rumor was per Olney, by the way.

  • I like Olney, and he's very connected, but I'll still disagree with him on that one.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Olney always says the Cubs are a possible fit for Justin Upton.....

  • In reply to cubbie steve:

    I agree with him there, but that's partly because Justin Upton is a fit for most teams in baseball.

  • In reply to cubbie steve:

    *also

  • If Tigers are serious, Theo and Jed should not settle for anything less than Nick Castellanos and a starting pitcher or two.

  • I'm thinking 2 prospects for Garza straight up or more if the Cubs include a player or two.

  • Cubs looking for 3 good prospects, but you're right, they may need to add a player (minor one), to make that happen.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I guess this is where you would ask yourself, is Barney in our long term plans?

  • In reply to lokeey:

    If including Barney with Garza prys Castellanos loose, then no he isn't in the long term plans - you lose one productive, cost-controlled infielder, but you gain another at a premium position with longer control. But as much as I wish he was, I don't think Castellanos is available.

    But there aren't many other scenarios where it makes sense to include Barney. The Tigers are the only potential "buying" team who REALLY have a need for a 2B, and therefore would value Barney more highly than others. IMO.

  • In reply to lokeey:

    I consider Barney more than a minor piece. He's a cost-controlled, starting caliber, top defensive 2B. If they want Barney, they're going to have to add a pretty good prospect, imo.

  • I think the Cubs end up trading Garza, Barney, and Vitters to the Tigers for Castellanos, Turner, and 2-3 solid prospects. The Tigers want to win now and with Grienke and Hamels question if they are going to get traded looming; there will be a lot of competition for Garza. Not to mention Garza has two years left on his deal which makes him more valuable IMO than Grienke and Hamels.

  • In reply to HotStoveCubbies:

    If this offer is made, I would have had it yesterday so fast ...

  • In reply to HotStoveCubbies:

    Hot Stove, if the Cubs are offered this kind of package, they should take it and run, and don't look back!

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    In reply to HotStoveCubbies:

    If Theo pulls a deal like this off... He's nothing short of God....

  • in case anyone was curious keith law updated his top 50 today, and several of the guys we discuss and hope the cubs can acquire are on it, including 3 of our very own guys!

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8150343/jurickson-profar-texas-rangers-new-no-1-prospect-baseball-mlb

  • In reply to jshmoran:

    I respect Keith's opinion as much as any writer in baseball. Not just great contacts, but is a pretty good scout in his own right. Good to see him put 3 of our guys on the list. He's a little higher on a few guys than I am, but not a lot of huge quarrels with that list from my point of view.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Wow! What a list. Cubs need more pitchers!

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    I sure as heck do not want the Cubs to trade for a player named Ruined Odor. :)

  • In reply to Just Win:

    I wouldn't care if he was named Turdell Stank... as long as he can rake at the MLB level!!

  • In reply to Just Win:

    LOL...you don't want an infield of Rock Shoulders, Rougned Odor, Arismendy Alcantara, and Jeimer Candelario? How much fun would that have been for either Harry Caray or Ron Santo?

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    It'd be difficult to attach the name "ODOR" to be back of the jersey.
    It's hard to laugh and sew straight at the same time...

  • John: Lots of discussion yesterday regarding various prospects headlining prospective deals. Here's my question; who would be the better headliner at this point between Tallion(Pirates), Miller(Cards) and Turner(Tigers)? Obviously there would be more pieces for a Garza deal-but based on what you've seen who do you like from those three?

  • In reply to Upstate NY Cubs Fan:

    taillon hands down. the other two have regressed a little and many scouts think there ceilings are a little lower than they once were.

  • In reply to Upstate NY Cubs Fan:

    Tallion currently rates the highest but can't turn the other guys either, and they're closer to the majors.

  • Trading Garza, Dempser and others in packages is the best
    route to go. Waiting until the last day is a very dangeous
    gamble to make. I very bad outing, buyers becomeing sellers
    and other very bad things might happen.

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    I'm getting the feeling you're getting a little anxious for a deal to be done :)

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Following Cub trades for 35 years I have never been this
    anxious. So much depend on getter the best deals possible
    for the various players we have to trade. The team's future
    success depends so much on what happens during the
    next 3 weeks.

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    It is an important time for the Cubs, no doubt. A trade of Dempster, and especially Garza, could speed up the timetable on the rebuilding the organization at the prospect level.

  • Miller comes with all kinds of baggage. He was topping out at 92 mph in his start last week and couldn't get out of the third inning.
    Maturity is his problem, more interested in his latest tweet about where he is going to dinner. Was suspended last year for off the field altercations. His stock has dropped big time and I hear the Cardinals have had enough. To much prima donna.

  • Thank you for sharing.

    These are the types of things that don't show up on the scouting report.

  • Good info Cubbie Ron. That would explain why Cards may be willing to part with him now -- and those kinds of things would certainly cool the Cubs interest as well.

  • I think we have had our quota of pima donnas....at least to last us a few decades.

  • I understand that the Cubs' front office wants to get maximum return in every trade they make, but I hope they're bright enough to realize that it's possible to wait too long. Teams fortunes change, other players become available, injuries occur. I hope they spread their trades out, rather than putting all there chips on the table on July 31.

  • In reply to cubsin:

    It's something they have to balance and consider. It's also possible that a new team can enter the picture if they incur an injury, or maybe a player like Hamels signs and gets taken off the market...or the Brewers go on a win streak and take Greinke off the market.

    You also have to consider that it may be other teams doing the waiting. They may want to make sure Dempster is healthy and can bounce back after a start. They may want another look or two at Garza after he's had an inconsistent first half.

    That said, the likelihood is that they've discussed some names already and have set some parameters as to what it's going to take to trade either Dempster or Garza. It's possible that teams are very close to those parameters and just need one small push to finish the deal.

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    Interesting stuff John! Great as per the usual.

    I don't really get anything the Marlins are doing at any level of their organization. So the Heaney thing doesn't shock me. I'm also hearing that Gausman may return to LSU because his heart just isn't in to going pro just yet, and from what I'm hearing, it isn't just BS to get more money out of the Orioles. They're offering him all they can without losing a draft pick according to several different sources. The story seems to be that he really likes the college life, and he was so upset about losing in the Super-Regional and missing the chance at a CWS that he didn't come out of his room for three or four days.

    I can't say Gausman would be the smartest person I've ever known for passing up $4.6M. It's an awful risk to take. If he gets hurt, he gets nothing, but as long as he were doing it for the right reason, I'd have to support him if I were his father.

    The implications of Gausman, Heaney and Appel going back into the 2013 draft could be tremendous for the Cubs. Gausman and Appel would immediately knock Stanek off the top perch as college baseball's top pitcher. If the 2013 draft were held today, the Cubs would probably have the third overall pick behind Houston and San Diego, and once Dempster and Garza are gone, we have a real chance to move past them into the number one spot.

    Trade wise, Garza to Detroit should net the Cubs Turner, Crosby and one or two others, and that would be a nice haul.

    I'm not sure the Cubs could get Tallion as part of a deal for just Dempster, but I think, when you pair Dempster with a cost controlled player like LaHair, that becomes realistic.

    The idea of helping the Cardinals in anyway makes me want to vomit. Also, I'm not high on Shelby Miller, and it's not just because of his 2012 numbers. The kid has an attitude problem according to people outside the Cardinals organization, and he is said to be nearly uncoachable. It's been pretty much downhill for him since the Cardinals suspended him for disciplinary reasons. Those kinds of things also speak about his mental makeup. Given what we know about our own FO and the kind of players they like, Miller doesn't seem like a good fit.

    The Mets would seem to me, because of Alderson, to be a team that would like Garza more than Dempster. I could see the Mets giving up Wheeler for 3 months of Dempster and no compensatory draft pick, but I would think any of discussion of Garza would have to begin with Wheeler, or else there would be no point in having the discussion. Chase Huchingson and Michael Fulmer would likely be part of a discussion for either.

    My gut says any discussions with Boston regarding Garza begins with Matt Barnes. The names Brandon Workman, Henry Owens, Miguel Pena, Jackie Bradley, Garin Cecchini and of course Ryan Lavarnway will also be in that mix whether discussing Garza or Dempster.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    I wrote about Gausman yesterday or the day before and it is a little puzzling to me. If what you say is true, and the money is there, then it's even more weird. I think he signs. The college experience is nice, but the chance to play pro ball is really special. If he doesn't, good for the Cubs.

    Cubbie Ron is from the St.Louis area and he mentioned something similar in an earlier comment about Miller. If these things are true, then I agree that the Cubs probably don't want to pull the trigger on such a player. They are numbers guys but they do value makeup. I know this to be true even beyond what they say in the media. It's not just lip service.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Gausman is a good kid from everything I've read, but he's wired a little differently. I know all pitchers are flaky, at least that's the general rule, but he has taken it to Wendell Turk like levels at LSU. Also, LSU is a little different.

    LSU is one of the few campuses where baseball players get treated like basketball and football players. People actually follow LSU baseball, and their stands are rarely empty at home games. In fact, they're often full. LSU baseball players are not anonymous in Baton Rouge.

    Gausman, in particular, has kind of become a sort of cult icon down there. He even has his own fan club of coeds called Gausman's Girls. They're regulars on sites like SEC Poon during baseball season, or so I've been told. No words as to whether or not Gausman's actually been out with any of them.

    Gausman is different, and LSU basball is different. The two of them combined is even more different. He could be one of those kids, like Tim Duncan, who just isn't ready to grow up yet.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    If indeed Gausman is one those kids who just isn't ready to grow up yet, then kudos to him for high self-awareness, which practically screams excellent mental make-up to me.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Word is now that he's likely to sign after significant progress today in talks. One day left.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    so is it safe to assume that given the insight into Miller's make up, he'd no longer be the headliner of a trade? Or just not a Garza trade?

    If so, would Theo & Jed have any interest in including him?

  • From everything coming out of the Mets, I will be surprised if they give up any substantial prospects in a trade this year. The debate is all about whether to call up Matt Harvey, and the assumption is that they are not willing to spend enough to rent a pitcher.

  • In reply to bruno14:

    Agreed. I think the Mets are far more likely to call up Harvey then trade him.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Can you blame them?

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Not at all. Thats what I would do.

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    If the Tigers really want to go for it, I think the Cubs are the best fit for them. Garza and Barney should net Turner and Castellanos, with minor names completing the deal. If I'm Theo, that's what I'm trying to sell Detroit on. You don't just try to win your mediocre division, you set yourself up to win it all. With the AL East strong and the AL West contenders looking to add pitching, get the one premium pitcher on the market that has team control for next year, shore up your weakest starting position, and greatly impact your infield defense. It makes a lot of sense, almost too much.

    I know the Jays are a popular rumor, but despite their good record, they have to leapfrog so many teams, I just don't see them being as interested a buyer.

    Lastly, if there is ANY way the Cubs could get Shelby Miller for Dempster, I'd be all over it. Yeah, Miller is having a very rough year, and it would be hard to see Demp pitching for the Cardinals, but there isn't a pitching prospect rumored to be available who has Miller's upside. If he regains his form, he's a legit #1 guy.

    Retooling the rotation with Miller and Turner would give the Cubs two excellent pitching prospects who are also near MLB ready, an important consideration if we're trading both Demp and Garza. That's my ideal scenario, an while it's an unlikely one, I think it's somewhat realistic in terms of the relative values of the players involves.

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    In reply to Hans Larson:

    Toronto is only 2.3 games out of the wildcard.

    It's not really about what's likely. Teams have to make an effort, likely or not.

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    In reply to Giffmo:

    This is true. That second wildcard turns a lot more teams into buyers at the trading deadline.

  • In reply to Hans Larson:

    While I have some concerns about Miller, if the Cubs get him for 2 1/2 months of Dempster, I'd be willing to take that chance. I imagine that the Cubs would look into him and only acquire him if they don't feel his long term makeup is an issue.

  • In reply to Hans Larson:

    Turner, Miller and Shark....

    would look good on paper.

  • In reply to cubbie steve:

    Nice start. Wood would make a good 4th starter.

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    Regarding the Miller makeup questions, I don't doubt he has his issues, but the Cards also seemed to ruin and run out of town a premium talent in Colby Rasmus.

    Regarding Tallion, I don't think he's going anywhere. Pirates would be stupid to barter their future foundation for the sake of a team that is severely out-performing its peripherals. I could see them making deals for a secondary starter, but nothing that would demand a Tallion in return.

  • In reply to Hans Larson:

    They've indicated that they're willing to move him in the right deal. That said, not sure that right deal is out there right now. They've been more vocal about keeping Cole.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    The most valuable commodity on the SP market is Garza, so I don't know who else they would be thinking about of they're making noises about Tallion in the right deal. If there is something to that, I would be shocked and thrilled.

  • In reply to Hans Larson:

    That's just it...not sure if the right deal is there at all. If it's not Garza, then they must be hoping someone else comes on the market (Felix?)

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    I see Heyman is tweeting about Garza going to the Yankees again. Honestly, I don't see the fit. The Yankees have the most over-hyped system in baseball. There is a huge gap between what their top 10 actually is and what it's reported to be. There isn't a single pitcher in their system right now I'd want. Banuelos is hurt, and everyone else has gone to pot. The only pitchers they have that interest me are in A-ball. If Garza goes to the Yankees, it will be because no one else stepped up and made a better offer, and for the offer they might make, I think the Cubs would just rather keep Garza.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    That Class A Charleston team is loaded. And a lot of scouts still like Banuelos, but his star has defnitely faded a bit.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    Yes, but it's mostly with position players. Don't get me wrong. Tyler Austin, Gary Sanchez and Mason Williams are great, but they don't pitch. When you look up and down that Yankees system, does anyone stand out? They're not Toronto.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    They don't pitch, but that would add a lot of talent too. I'd rather have pitching, all things being equal, but if the best offer in terms of talent comes in the form of position players, how can Cubs turn it down? That said, Yanks offer would likely have to include Banuelos, so it would depend on how the Cubs felt about him.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I'm not disagreeing with you John, but I'm having visions of a future Cubs team that scores a lot of runs but has a whole rotation full of Randy Wellses.

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    In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Oh god what a terrible thought.

  • John, just out off curiosity, how many monthly reads does Cubs Den get?

  • In reply to drew:

    Hey Drew, not sure if I'm comfortable divulging that information, but will say that the number of comments are just a very small percentage of the total readership.

  • John , I agree with you about the Charleston squad but the org pitching is pretty light.

    I see CLE being the sleeper for Demp. I could also see Chisenall coming back in a package. I hear the new regime isnt terribly fond of Vitters.

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    In reply to Carl9730:

    Chisenhall is a slightly better Vitters with the added negative of being injuring for 8-10 weeks. I see them going after Lahair or dehesus.

  • In reply to Carl9730:

    The approach and defense doesn't fit their philosophy. Vitters is probably a DH, and for that he'd have to hit a ton...and play for the AL, of course :) The increase in walks is encouraging, though.

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    I think the Cubs are in good position to net some real good prospects this year. Alot of teams will be looking for starting pitching and the Cubs have that. I bet the Cubs are playing the waiting game right now until there's a team or two that become desperate. I wouldn't be surprised Dempster nets a prospect in the 2 to 4 range from a team. Garza may net 3 prospects in the 3 to 10 range from a team. That's wishful thinking but think about it. With so many teams wanting a starter for a playoff run, there's bound to be somebody that goes overboard. Adding Dempster or Garza may not only help a team win a division, but may help that team win a World Series. What would you rather have, winning 5 division titles or winning 1 world series title in a span of 5 years? A desperate man (a.k.a. GM) is a dangerous one.

  • In reply to Danny Guerra:

    It's an interesting philosophical question but I think if you rephrase it as this: "Would you rather have a playoff team the next 5 years or sacrifice some future years for a better chance to win the WS this year?", then the answer might vary, but I think most would take the playoff team for 5 years because it gives them 5 chances to win a WS instead of one big chance in one year.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    That being said, there have to be at least a couple of GMs who are very close and willing to roll the dice now -- especially those with the resources to just bury their mistakes with money.

  • All things being equal, ideally all teams would opt for the 5 year plan. But the reality of each teams situation varies widely. The dynamics of their roster, pipeline, market etc. Forces teams to lean one way or the other to various degrees.

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