Cubs acquire RHP Randall Delgado for Ryan Dempster. Maybe.

Cubs acquire RHP Randall Delgado for Ryan Dempster.  Maybe.

UPDATE  2:47 PM: David Kaplan, who has been all over this, quotes a great source that says deal not official yet.  Ryan Dempster also tweeted the following, "THERE IS NO TRADE dont know where this info came from!

In a deal that developed rather suddenly, the Cubs have acquired 22 year old RHP Randall Delgado from the Atlanta Braves.  Keith Law confirmed the return should the trade go through.  Multiple sources are reporting that the deal is indeed done.  The Cubs will also pay a part of Dempster's contract.

The Braves made the deal partly because they feel like they have an excellent chance to re-sign him as well as some of the best young pitching depth in baseball.

Delgado has good size aat 6'3", 200 lbs. and works with a fastball that has averaged 92.5 MPH per Fangraphs, but can touch the mid-90s.  His best pitch however is a curve with a sharp downward bite.  If Delgado has a weakness so far, it's command.  He's young and there is still time for him to work on that. Delgado has the kind of mental makeup the Cubs like. so he profiles as someone who can continue to improve and adjust at the MLB level.

He has the stuff of a #2 starter but the most likely scenario is that you get yourself a solid #3 guy, unless there is an unexpected leap in his ability to command his pitches.

Delgado is 4-9 this season with a 4.42 ERA (4.11 FIP).  He has a walk rate of 4.12 and a strikeout rate of 7.17 so far this season.

 

In short, excellent value for the Cubs on this.  They get a pitcher with some upside as well as a pretty high floor as he's shown flashes of success at the MLB level.

We wish the best of luck to Dempster and his new team, the Atlanta Braves, whom I'll be rooting on for the rest of the year.

More details as they come...

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Tags: Randall Delgado, Ryan Dempster

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  • Ok.... this guy is a 22 year old MAJOR LEAGUE pitcher.
    There must be something wrong with him, like he lied about his age or his arm's about to fall off.
    I did read that he's had Chris Volstad Disease.

  • In reply to eaton53:

    UPDATE: Kaplan saying deal not finalized yet.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Ugh. I hope the Braves FO isn't monitoring Twitter, because Braves fans are mostly furious. Of course, those same fans had been saying that Delgado was a bust after losing his last start, so...

  • In reply to Taft:

    Braves will do what's best for their team. They're not going to do what the fans think is right. They have a ton of info more than they do.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Is this a straight up trade of Dempster for Delgado or are there other pieces included that are being ironed out?

  • In reply to supercapo:

    Other stuff involved but not sure if it's money or players.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Kevin Goldsteins saying the same

  • The trade is posted on www.cubs.com. Must be final, right?

  • :"Must be something wrong with him."
    Still keeping your glass half empty, I see. Why not let the full details come out first?

  • In reply to StillMissKennyHubbs:

    I'm just that kinda guy!
    Past trades with the Braves haven't been all that.
    But the guy doing the trading is in the past, too.

  • Haha, it's funny to listen to Jayson Stark's commentary on ESPN. In the first, most updated video he says that the Braves were "on the periphery" of the trade talks for Dempster, until they got him. But if you let the video go on autoplay, it'll bring up an interview that Stark gave a day or so before where he says that the Cubs are essentially misleading the media about how there is a bidding war for Dempster and that the only two teams with a legit shot at him are Washington and L.A. How'd that turn out?

    Clearly, there really was a bidding war for Dempster, and the folks misleading the media were MLB GMs who wanted to lower the asking price.

  • In reply to Taft:

    Exactly. That's why you always have to give take all this rumor info with a grain of salt. A lot of maneuvering going on.

  • Huge win IMO if it indeed comes to fruition

  • In reply to Andrew13:

    It's a great trade for the Cubs but it's also good for the Braves. It's pretty fair, in my opinion.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    I agree, it solves problems for both teams, although if you would have told me at the beginning of the season we could get delgado for demp i would have thought you were nuts.

    This seems to be gettig very strange though, is it done or not?

  • In reply to Andrew13:

    It would be an even huger win if Dempster came back next year for a reasonable sum...

  • In reply to eaton53:

    Right on, would be kinda nice just doesnt happen much

  • I have Delgado on my fantasy team and have watched many of his starts this year as I have the MLB package. Absolutely love this Kid!!!! This was a great trade for the Cubs! At times he can look great and at other times he just looks young. His numbers may not be great this year, but I like this kid better that Teheran. He really looks like he can be a solid Major League pitcher.

  • Man this trade is making my head spin. lol

  • The first guy to report the Delgado rumor was the Braves' MLB beat writer, which suggests to me that Atlanta leaked this trade BEFORE the Cubs had a chance to tell Dempster, who can still veto the trade. I hope he doesn't hold that against the Cubs.

    This trade won't be official until we hear it from Dempster. He's a class act who earned the right to have some power over where he plays ball.

  • In reply to Taft:

    Absolutely. Nobody will know when this trade is official before Dempster does.

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    I really like this move for the Cubbies. Gonna miss Demp like crazy though. He's been one of my favorite Cubs for a long time. Hope there's some chance he re-signs next year. I'd love for him to be around in some capacity when we start winning!

  • im looking forward to this trade. i have never heard delgado before so if someone would tell me about him that would be great and jair i wouldnt mind he would be better than a volstad and at his best is a pretty good pitcher

  • In reply to kingpro98:

    My report is in the article.

  • I think this trade is going to happen, some people got a little ahead of themselves. Delgado has but loads of talent and has ace stuff, a big pickup for the Cubs, of this becomes official.

  • I was hoping this would be done by now but we'll have to wait.

  • Did another Cubbie occurrence just happen?

  • In reply to SFToby:

    My thoughts exactly.

  • Kevin Goldstein went on Boer and Bernstein saying that he thinks the hold up is related to Selig approving the deal. Apparently he has to sign off on any trade that involves more than a million dollars. The Braves are on a strict annual budget from their owners, and probably required the Cubs to throw in some cash for this deal to happen.

    Also, Dempster has been spotted in the clubhouse putting on his jersey for today's game.

  • If this does go down, I agree it will be a pretty good, fair deal. I figured it would be Minor we would be getting, but I think Delgado has more upside. I also would prefer Delgado to the much talked about Zach Lee. He is further along, and has better stuff (IMO). Nothing wrong with someone not having instant success in the bigs. If he was mowing everyone down, the Braves wouldn't be trading him. This is a perfect opportunity for the Cubs to swoop in. Also, don't forget it this trade would have happened a year ago, everyone would would have said the Cubs got a steal. Dempster sucked and Delgado was the Braves 3rd best prospect. John - You've said it over and over - great time for Demp to have a career year!

  • In reply to jimmy mac1:

    Big year definitely helped. I actually look at Minor as the guy with slightly higher upside but Delgado with the higher floor. I'm a big fan of Minor and I think if he gets it together, he'll be the better pitcher. But Delgado is no slouch. I think he can actually be a lot like Ryan Dempster has been for the Cubs.

  • MLBTR: "3:30pm: The teams are awaiting Dempster's approval, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter)."

  • In reply to cubbie steve:

    Saw that. Don't think it's that far along.

  • I agree John, I expect the official word to come down by tonight.

  • what do you think of the potability to get jair in a trade as a throw in i think he is better than volstad and more savable and at his best he can throw 6-7 shout out innings what do you guys think about him?

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    In reply to kingpro98:

    Jurjjens has been shelled this year. Keith Law tweeted a few hours ago that the Braves would be sending back a player with a contract the Cubs would eat to wash out some of Dempster's contract. If that's true, looking at the Braves 40 man roster, the only guys making over $1 mil per year that they would likely want to move because of a bad year and money is either OF Matt Diaz, who is on the DL, or P Jurjjens.

    But other reports don't mention any of that, just claim Dempster is waiting to approve the trade and one report says the Braves are demanding Dempster sign an extension before the trade is official, and that Dempster might want to hit the free agent market instead and see what he is offered.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    JW, I think those two reports of the deal being that close are false. I don't believe the deal got far enough yet for the Cubs to approach Dempster. IIf there's anything they're haggling over, it's that second player.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    John, multiple sources on Twitter (Kevin Goldstein, Keith Law, Rosenthal, etc.) are all saying the trade was agreed to by the teams but Dempster hasn't approved the trade. One report also says the Braves might want Dempster to agree to an extension as part of the trade and Dempster might not want to, or doesn't like the offer they've made. Dempster is also mad that an Atlanta reporter leaked the trade before Demp approved it, according to the Tribune.

    So it appears the trade in in Dempster's hands.

    Goldstein also just tweeted that deals with 10/5 rights require a 24 hour moratorium before they can be announced, so no trade tonight can be announced unless it was really made yesterday. And he says the Ichiro trade was likely made yesterday and announced tonight after 24 hours had passed - I don't know, I've never heard about that but he's the baseball guru, he would know more than I about the oddball MLB rules.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    It's possible the names are agreed on, I just don't think it was as imminent as we were led to believe.

  • In reply to kingpro98:

    I think the Braves are the ones who would like to throw in Jair actually. He's not performing and he makes decent money.

  • Tigers just got Sanchez and Infante from the Marlins. Turner might be involved.

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    Turner was in the deal.

    If this Dempster trade falls apart we're screwed.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    Cubs must have been asking for Turner and Castellanos. No way the Tigers prefer Sanchez over Garza + an extra year.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    But the Tigers also go Infante, who is a better hitter than Barney and signed through 2013. I can see the appeal of it from the Tigers viewpoint. Plus they flipped the small market/new draft picks so they moved up 1 round.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    30 yr old utility infielder vs a younger, more athletic Barney?

  • In reply to Just Win:

    Garza alone worth 1st round pick -- without having to give up any picks at all.

    And Infante may be a better hitter (more power anyway), but Barney's cost control gives him superior value. Just no way to rationalize this as a better deal for Detroit. Cub Reporter saying same thing you are, but I'm not buying it.

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    The Cubs offer was not comparable to the Marlins. Infante and the switch of sandwich picks got the deal done. Cubs may have asked for a bigger package, and should have, because if Garza walks Detroit get the extra pick anyway. I am glad we didn't get Turner. I like Zach Lee better though I know I am in the minority.

    As far as Demp - I think he's just upset the trade was announced before he had a chance to approve it. I'd be angry too. I'm sure it will go through.

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    Sanchez + Infante + switching picks is not better than Garza + extra yr/comp pick in 2013 + Barney.

    That comp pick is the last one in the first. Maybe if they had acquired the comp pick without giving up their own, but a one rd swap? They basically swapped a beginning 2nd for a beginning 3rd. Garza's extra yr would have netted them that w/o having to give up their own.

    So then the question becomes Is Sanchez & Infante better than Garza & Barney? Heck no.

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    In reply to cubbie steve:

    I'd rather have Infante and Sanchez and move up 30 picks than Garza and Barney. Just saying.

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    I'd rather keep my Round B pick, pick up a first rd comp pick in 2014, and have the extra years of control of a young 2B.

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    Garza gives you a higher pick without having to swap your own out. With Garza you get higher first rounder AND your 2nd rounder How is that possibly better??

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    In reply to cubbie steve:

    A one round swap is HUGE are you kidding me?

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    As compared to the extra pick?

    2013 A (end first) does not seem better than a 2013 B (end second) + 2014 first round comp pick (for Garza).

    Then add in the cheap, longer-term control of Barney....

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    In reply to cubbie steve:

    Infante is far superior to Barney

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    Not really. WAR was the same last season. Barney younger, far more cost control, more overall value.

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    In reply to Jive Wired:

    I'm sorry to say this. I like this site a lot but you guys who post are such incredible homers. You really overvalue the Cubs players. Garza is a #3 starter on most teams - STOP overvaluing him - jeez he is in more demand on these boards than in real life and if any of the proposed trades were actual offers don't you think the Cubs would have done them? If Detroit made the same offer why wouldn't the Cubs have given them Garza and Barney? Sanchez is a #2. Infante has a better BA, OBP and SLG than Barney. The cost control doesn't matter to Detroit because Barney is not anybody's long term answer at second base. Sheesh, even the Cubs were about to replace Barney with Cardenas. Personally, I'd like to see the Cubs rout everybody in these trades, but Theo is not God and every other GM is not in his circle of peasants. If you really think Barney & Garza is better than Infante and Sanchez my hats off to you. Let's not forget the Cubs have stated that they want THREE prospects for Garza alone. Of course this deal made far more sense for Detroit. If it didn't why else would they do it? To shove one up Epstein's backside? GMs don't think that way. .

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    It's not the people on this board, there was just a whole national article written (ESPN) about how rival execs view Garza as the pitcher with the most value on the market. It's not just about what he is now, but the fact that he has an extra year and the team will get a first round supplemental pick makes it pretty much a consensus.

    Detroit simply made a decision to make a deal that cost them less, it doesn't mean its superior value.

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    maybe so. everybody has their own opinion. From what I've read, Infante is a utility infielder on any other team.

    You're focusing on comparing who Detroit got vs. who they would've gotten from the Cubs, which is fine. But you act like Detroit never offered Chicago this same deal, or that Detroit wouldn't because the offering from Miami was better.

    This neglects another possibility. As John suggested earlier, perhaps Theo and Jed wanted Castellanos. If that is the case, then your whole point is moot.

    Personally, I believe if the Cubs would've accepted what Miami received, the deal would've been done days or weeks ago.

    But that's my opinion, homer or not.

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    Cubbie Steve is right on this one. You get a whole extra pick with Garza because you'll get a higher 1st rounder, since the FA supplemental comes before the competitive balance lottery AND Detroit gets to keep 2nd rounder. Clearly the better value is with the Garza comp pick.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I respectfully disagree John. I don't think other GMs value Garza and Barney as highly as you guys do. Otherwise that offer would have been made for the Cubs players and they would therefore I guess accept.

    But everybody on here is saying Garza is worth three prospects alone, so if that is the case, why be upset that Miami beat them to the punch with a lesser offer? If the Cubs had taken a similar package everybody would be furious so why be furious that Miami did take that package? Because of Turner? Please.

    You yourself have said the talks start with Turner AND Castellanos for Garza alone. I disagree with that valuation and have all year. And if the Cubs are reportedly getting Zach Lee and two lesser prospects for Garza then I can assume that most of baseball disagrees with that overvaluation of Garza as well.

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    Actually, I think you're going the other way in this. Not a GM in the league will say Sanchez has more value than Garza.

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    here is how the Tigers valued Sanchez, according to Danny Knobler via MLBTR:

    "The Tigers view Anibal Sanchez as a true rental player, Knobler writes (all Twitter links). They see the right-hander as a middle-of-the-rotation starter, but felt they didn’t have a strong chance of acquiring a true top-of-the-rotation starter this summer.

    middle-of-rotation + rental.

    You can debate on Garza as middle-of-rotation if you want, but the very fact he isn't a rental and nets you that supplemental pick means he is worth more than Sanchez. Sorry.

  • Yankees just got Ichiro.

  • Trades are going nuts right now.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    NUTS!!!

  • It's going to be an interesting next 8 days plus.

  • I leave my apartment thinking the Cubs traded Dempster for Delgado.
    I then waste the next 4 hours watching that disappointing Batman disaster and now there's no trade. WTF Arguello. Why weren't you out getting loaded. Shit happens when you're out getting loaded!!!!! Man just doesn't understand his responsibilities...

    My guess is the Cubs were a little scared about Turner's "checkered" year this year and wanted Castellanos or something more (Porcello?....) to get a Garza deal done. I thought the Red Sox blog did a nice job trying to word it like the Red Sox had a worthy deal of Garza. But Puh-leeze. if you see Bard as a reliever, or, to be more precise, a BROKEN reliever, then that deal doesn't even net you Demp. I might make that deal for Maholm.

    Again, the other teams on the trade end are the ones supposedly "competing" Well, step up and compete.....

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    Here's another example of how Dale Sveum has no clue how to make out a lineup:

    Tonight at 3b: Joe Mather
    Tonight in RF: Jeff Baker

  • Showcase.

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    Was he showcasing Mather in April, May, and June at 3b? Teams already know what Baker can/can't do in RF.

    Makes no sense to me why Baker, a 3b, hasn't played an inning at 3b this year, while Mather, an OF, has played a handful of games and averaged an error per start at 3b. Sveum also had a game about two weeks ago where Baker was at 2b and Valbuena, who has more range at 2b, played 3b. Sveum consistently makes the team worse at two positions in the same game.

  • In reply to Just Win:

    I believe that Dale Sveum knows more about putting together a lineup than I do. Perhaps that's not true in your case.

  • So your argument is that Sveum should never be questioned or second guessed because he's the manager and he must know more than everyone else. Nice. Should make for tons of great conversations about sports and politics.

  • In reply to adamlweber:

    Hardly. One of the many wonderful things about living in the greatest country in the world is freedom of speech. Baseball is another. I suggested that tonight's lineup might be a showcase for some players and that Dale Sveum knows more about putting a lineup together than I do. Fans have every right to question and discuss his moves.

  • I would add another point to RRK's: who cares what lineup they trot out there these days? At this point the more you learn about your bench players, the better. Maybe RRK is right and it's a showcase, or maybe the FO is trying to decide if Mather can handle 3B if they trade away Baker.

    But in the end. Who cares? The Cubs are umpteen games out of the WC.

    Clearly there is a reason Sveum put that lineup out there and we don't have to know everything.

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    Time to get the Rangers in on Garza: Colby Lewis has torn ligament, done for '12

  • In reply to Jive Wired:

    As long as the Phils resign Hamels then Garza would really be the only option for the rangers. Besides I doubt they want to lose a third straight WS. Garza could make it happen.

  • 6:20pm: Jon Heyman of CBS Sports writes that Dempster to the Braves now has a 50-50 chance of happening.

    I hope this trade goes through. If it doesn't, I have a feeling that Dempster won't be traded at all.

  • Looks like everyone is against us. I remember the old days when
    a trade was made right after a game was finished. Sometimes
    the old days were better.

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    I remember those days too. Some trades are still easy, some aren't.

  • Matt garza for mike olt and other prospects? The rangers need pitching and the cubs are looking for a third baseman. Sounds like a match made in heaven!

  • In reply to Joshnk24:

    Olt just hit his 26th HR

  • In reply to SFToby:

    Castro, rizzo, olt, soler, almora, and baez....wow! Hopefully Jed and theo make that happen!

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    I have a feeling that Theo/Jed close out trading deadline like Michael Corleone would finish a Godfather movie...settle all family business in 1 day.
    They should package Dempster and Reed to Braves for Delgado and another young piece.
    Garza and LaHair to Dodgers for Lee + Eovaldi
    Reed to Braves for additional P
    Soto/Marmol to Yanks for Swisher
    DeJesus to Reds for Tony Cingrani
    Baker to Giants for whatever
    Soriano and ca$h to Orioles (need to stay in contention) for LHP Eduardo Rodriguez
    Maholm to Nats for Robbie Ray, LHP

    All in 24 hour period

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    In reply to Louie101:

    You know, if McLeod were to cut his hair shorter and put on some weight, he'd look an awful lot like Luca Brazzi.

  • Kaplan tweeted link to story by Atl's David O'Brien:

    "MIAMI – The Braves had a trade in place for veteran Cubs pitcher Ryan Dempster on Monday, but apparently the major league ERA leader had yet to formally approve of the deal and it wasn’t clear when he might.

    Dempster recently told the Cubs last week that he was open to a trade to one of several teams pursuing him, and the Braves were reportedly second on his preferred list behind only the Dodgers, who wouldn’t part with the prized prospect the Cubs wanted.

    .....The Braves were likely to include rookie right-hander Randall Delgado and a lesser prospect or young player in the deal for Dempster."

    Kaplan then tweeted another similar link by another ATL writer.

    It seems the story coming from ATL's F.O is that the deal is agreed on, just waiting for Demp's approval....

    Perhaps Theo and Jed are hoping to coax the Dodgers to cave and swoop in for Demp?

    In other news Almora is making his debut today.

  • Muskat's reporting that a nother source said that Dempster said no to the trade.

    I've never seen such chaos surrounding a possible transaction.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    You are right.

  • In reply to SFToby:

    Even though ATL was supposedly #2 on his reported "preferred destinations" list?

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    According to Keith Law, there is an automatic 24 hour moratorium on all trades involving players with 10 and 5 rights. It was put in the CBA to keep teams from pressuring a player into a deal. So basically, Dempster has 24 hours, once he is officially presented with the deal, to say "yes" or "no."

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    In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    My bad, not Keith Law, but Kevin Goldstein.

  • Whoever in the Braves FO leaked the news to the Braves beat writer better hope Dempster isn't so pissed he rejects the trade....

  • I'm really dissapointed in how this whole thing has been handled. Up until today, I have been more than impressed with how Ricketts has transformed the Cubs into a well run organization. But today has reminded me of the Tribune run Cubs. We can blame the Braves for leaking this trade, but then why was this posted on the Cubs website. Even if we are just waiting for the 24 hours, how come the Mariners announced the Ichiro trade and hours later he was wearing a Yankee uniform??? Apparently they understand the concept of keeping a secret!!!

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    In reply to Ibleedcubbieblue:

    I blame the Braves entirely on this one. Cubs did want to keep it under wraps for 24 hours like the mariners did. just didnt work out that way.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    If the Cubs were so intent on keeping this under wrap, why was it announced on their website before Dempster is tweeting their is no trade? They screwed the pooch on this one and if I were Ricketts, Theo and Jedd would have heard about it. If Dempster is pissed, I can't blame him... I would be too if my friends are calling and texting me about a trade I know nothing about. Multiple sources were confirming this trade... That is not the result of one person saying something they shouldn't.

  • In reply to Ibleedcubbieblue:

    Carrie is a beat writer and is obligated to report news. The Braves leaked this, it was reported by their writer, and everyone else followed up and sourced the info. The Cubs FO had nothing to do with it and when asked, stated there was "nothing to report".

  • In reply to Cubswin4harry:

    Well then she was reporting misinformation as she was reporting the deal was done. The fact that the Cubs allowed this on their website is a joke. I have managed operations for a concrete producer and been involved in multi-million dollar aquisitions that need to be kept quiet. We would have multiple discussions on how important it is to keep quiet. I'm sorry, but I expect the same from Major League Baseball teams. You can blame the Braves on this and they probably were the ones who leaked this, but you are nieve if you beleive the Cubs did everything they possibly could to kerp this under wraps. This was sloppy and clearly it shows.

  • In reply to Ibleedcubbieblue:

    I don't know the ins and outs on who employs the official team beat writers (MLB or the Club), nor do I know how much control over the beat writers the individual teams have. I don't think this makes me naive. Do you know how much control Ricketts or the FO have over Muskat?

    What I do know, is that Muskat tends to be a bit slower than the "independent" writers at reporting breaking news, and that she doesn't report many rumors. I think because the source was the Braves beat writer, this qualified as "news" and not "rumor". But it is a fine line, admittedly.

  • In reply to Cubswin4harry:

    I do not know how much control Ricketts or the FO has over Muskat, but I do know that website has the Cubs name on it and I would not be happy if mis-information was getting printed on my website.

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    ibleed, this was originally posted by a Braves beat writer and then followed up by Ken Rosenthal, John Heyman etc....From an earlier account, this deal came together quickly, so it's possible the Cubs couldn't get Demp up to date before it was leaked...Still, he shouldn't hold it up, Atlanta wa slisted as one of his preferred destinations, he should just go win a ring!!!

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    Agreed. Demp has been a gentleman so far. He's agreed to waive his 10 & 5 no-trade rights. Supposedly, Atlanta is #2 on his preferred destinations, so why would he say no?

    He is entitled to say no, but a gentleman keeps his word.

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    In reply to cubbie steve:

    Agreed, does he really have the best interests of the Cubs at heart? Look I understand that he has family issues and what not but i'm sorry, the man has collected 14+ milllion per year over the last 5 years...I'm not envious of someone like that, but I don't feel sorry for them either...The Cubs need to get younger and if he truly is holding this up after stating the ATL was a preference, he's asticking it to all of us Cub faithful..

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    I agree as well that I will be dissappointed in Dempster if he vetos this trade after listing the Braves as a preferred destination. But it will also back my stance that this whole thing was handled poorly. I'm sorry if I have very high standards for this team, but I expect them to cross every T and dot every I as I beleive they need to be held to a higher standard if we ever expect them to win a World Series.

  • Almora homered!!!

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    The thing is, and even John and Kap have said this that it was not done at that point..someone on the ATL beat, broke the news prematurely and parasites like Heyman and Rosenthal feasted on it....I don't blame anyone in the Cubs organization on this one...even THEIR manager made inferences about the trade...I'm sure Theo and Jed are more pissed than you and I are about it coming out..They don't talk!!!

  • You are right. I'm sure Theo and Jedd are more pissed than I am about this. But also remember that Theo Epstien is the President of Baseball operations for the Chicago Cubs and ultimately he has to answer to the Ricketts family on this. I'm pretty sure he will make sure this does not happen again, but it happened all the same and that reflects poorly on him and the organization. That's why he makes the big bucks.

  • I like Demp BUT, 1) He knew He was being shopped . 2)) He gave a list of teams He preffered to go to. 3) Theo has Him going to the team 2nd on His list. Now let me get this straight , Since He was having a nappy poo and the news leaked before He was able to wipe the sand from His eyes at the buttcrack of noon He has His feelings hurt? Well If I am Cubs brass , put hours and hours trying to get a good deal within the peremeters of the players wishes and He pulls this THERE IS NO WAY He starts another game in a Cubs uniform . Into the back of the bullpen You go Ryan. Let a Young kid in the minors get the experience down the stretch while You heal those poor hurt feelings . Lendy needs activated anyway .

  • Now its being said Dempster only wants to go to the Dodgers or Yankees with a 2 year extention to boot. Into the pits of the bullpen You go if thats the case never to start another game for the Cubs if I was running the ship. Lost season anyway . So much for team player . Seems out of character but I guess when your talking millions of dollars and greed that is what it does to people, make them not honor thier word .

  • In reply to Bryan Craven:

    where in the world did you hear that ive never read demp saying that

  • In reply to kingpro98:

    Peggy Kusinski NBC beatwriter reporting source close to Dempster. On Twitter of course . Makes sense tho since all of a sudden Demps feelings are too hurt to just accept a trade to a preapproved team . In the end it always goes back to the money for most players it seems .

  • what happened to the demp trade?

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