Source: Cubs actively seeking to trade Dempster and willing to deal Garza. Yankees, Red Sox interested.

Source: Cubs actively seeking to trade Dempster and willing to deal Garza. Yankees, Red Sox interested.

Fire up the hot stove, here come the rumors and we've got a couple of doozies for you...

Tom has a source that says the Cubs are currently seeking a deal for Ryan Dempster.

They've talked it over with Dempster and he will not get in the way.  He wants to play for a ring and realizes this will be one of his last shots at it.  Tom expressed surprise that Dempster was willing to waive his no trade rights but perhaps the frustration and opportunity to play for a championship was to much to pass up.  He's also a big character guy and is willing to do what it takes to help the team.

It was also noted that both Dempster and the Cubs would be amenable to working out a deal to bring the veteran back next season.

The source also stated that the Cubs are willing to deal Garza, but only if the right deal comes along.  Teams now view Garza as a good #2 type pitcher so it's quite possible the Cubs will get better offers than they did his past offseason.

Earlier today, according to CBS Sports, Jon Heyman the Yankees have RHP Matt Garza at the top of their list.  His colleague Danny Knobler tweeted that the Red So are also interested.  The Yankees know that Garza has had a couple of tough starts and his numbers are down a bit from last year, but they want the pitcher who they feel has the best chance to help them.

As for whom the Yankees would be willing to deal, you have to believe that Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos are at the top of the Cubs list.  The team seeks impact starters and both prospects have gotten off to a slow start, so perhaps the Yankees have softened their stance.

As for the teams on Dempster, but we can suspect the Yankees and Red Sox would also be involved.  With so many teams in the race right now, it could be any number of teams that would have interest in Dempster.  He would obviously be less expensive than Garza from either a financial or prospect standpoint. Garza, of course, is the better pitcher and has an extra year of control.

Expect Dempster to be with a a new team soon with Garza possibly following right behind him.

The source also confirmed that while nobody is "untouchable", Jeff Samardzija and Starlin Castro will remain with the Cubs unless someone completely blows them away.

 

 

 

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  • Dempster is a class act. He has pitched in some tough luck this year and he deserves a shot at getting a ring. I'm still on the fence about dealing Garza but the emergence of Samardzija as a potential top tier starter makes dealing Garza an easier pill to swallow.

  • In reply to Larry H:

    Agreed on all counts, Larry. Dempster is a great guy and I may even root for the Yankees if he winds up there. I'd rather he end up on a team I like better, though :)

    Cubs willing to deal Garza, but not actively looking to do so, as with Dempster. They'll have to get a deal they can't pass up to deal Garza.

  • now that boston and new york are in on dempster look for toronto to follow suit and raise the asking price. im liking this a lot!

  • In reply to jshmoran:

    Toronto definitely interested. was just told about a Fangraphs fan chat with the following exchange:

    Chat guy: Snider, Syndegaard enough for Dempster?

    Dave Cameron: No.

    Is that even possible? I read it 3 times and Im still not sure I'm reading it right.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    My guess is that Cameron read it quickly and saw Snider, Syndegaard for Dempster?

    And then he answered no.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Can you say "bidding war", children? Why, yes, I can.

    Consequence of the extra playoff spot?

  • In reply to CubsFanInNorway:

    Absolutely. Could be at least 3 AL East teams bidding for pitching.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    i dont think theres a chance and hell we get syndegaard. i also dont like the idea of trading for snider because hes currently injured. i think jiminez and Wojciechowski would definitely get it done from the cubs stand point. im not sure that would initially be the offer but if the bidding war gets heated we could end up with those 2.

  • In reply to jshmoran:

    It does seem like a lot. Cameron seems to like Demp an awful lot. I hope Toronto does as well.

    I'm leaving all you guys to speculate on names for now ;)

  • This FO plays close to the belt so maybe some offers have already been made and accepted?

  • In reply to 44slug:

    They could have been talking names but nothing accepted. Theo/Jed needed to get permission from Demp before they could have serious talks with anyone.

  • Of the 3, i like the prospects that Toronto could possibly bring for Dempster. Seriously, though, I know Dempster likes the city and made it his home after he was acquired by Hendry, but come back? Really?

  • In reply to lokeey:

    I think it's usually something peoplejust talk about. It's a nice gesture but both sides will probably move on. If he comes back, I could see it in some capacity after he retires.

  • I hear that the pitcher the Cubs claimed off waivers from Cleveland, Asencio, is going to replace Bowden on the 25-man roster.

  • That wouldn't surprise me. Haven't had a chance to write about him yet. Will try and get to it later.

  • Is this a dream (1) drafting all the players we target (2) signing
    Soler and (3) trading everyone we want for what we want

  • In reply to emartinezjr:

    That is the dream!

  • John, what type of yield do you think we can expect for Demp? Top 100 prospect? Couple of guys just outside the top 100? I realize there is demand but the rental factor has to limit the return , somewhat.

    Garza , on the other hand, could/ will fetch a nice bag of goodies. The Yanks, in particular, must be very interested , in light of the Pineda injury and Hughes' struggles.

    What do you think the chances are that both guys get moved?

  • In reply to Carl9730:

    Top 100 is a stretch, but some think it's very plausible. He may be the best veteran pitcher on the market while Garza may be the best long term guy out there. Cubs have some nice assets to deal.

    I'm saying 100% on Dempster, 50/50 on Garza.

  • This has to be brutal for the remaining players as they watch the team dissolve, the first week of June, as the White Flag is raised.
    Brutal on the fans as well. Maybe if they could get rid of Soriano and Len Casper, fans would be more appreciative?

  • In reply to gposner:

    It must be pretty brutal for the players. But I like Kasper, one of the better announcers they've had.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Get rid of Kasper? I know there was skepticism his first year, but I'd say he is a great play by play man now. That and he and Brenly have an awesome rapport.

  • What about Baltimore?? They haven't been relevant forever, and actually have a chance. They could use both starters big time and better prospects..

  • In reply to JR Cubbies:

    I think they're a possibility. They just had an injury to Markakis, so you have to wonder if they have some interest also in DeJesus, Soriano, etc.

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    In reply to JR Cubbies:

    I'd hate to see Dempster sent to a team with virtually no shot at making the playoffs.

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    John, trading Dempster to Boston might be cruel and unusual punishment, but what might Boston give us? Any chance they'd deal Middlebrooks?

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    For Dempster? Id be surprised.

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    Also John, what about the Dempster/Detroit rumors? There have also been rumors linking both Dempster and DeJesus with the Reds.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    I imagine there are a lot of teams interested in Dempster and I wouldn't rule any of those teams out.

  • Dempster has been a great Cub. Wherever he goes I hope he does well.....and nets us a few good prospects in return. Who gets the call up if we deal him John? Volstad 2.0?

  • In reply to Cubswin4harry:

    I'd lean toward Volstad. He hasn't dominated in AAA, but I like the way he's battled down there when he hasn't had his best stuff. Volstad seems to do great when things are going well but the moment he has adversity,he folds up. In Iowa, as you'll see in the recap, he didn't have his good stuff but battled his way through and kept Iowa in the game. That to me is more significant than him having great stuff and shutting down a AAA team.

  • Or dells Wells get his shot again?

  • In reply to Cubswin4harry:

    Wells is another candidate. Coleman is a longshot since I think he may work out better in relief. There's also the possibility they get an MLB ready pitcher in return such as Phil Hughes.

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    doubt that Boston will deal Middlebrooks, think they're much more likely to try and deal Youkilis.

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    perhaps if we deal dempster, and hopefully get some decent prospects there, it will create even more desperation among the competitors of the team who gets dempster and then we could possibly spin garza off to them for a king's ransom. Hopefully an AL east team would value him as someone who has previously had success in that division.

  • In reply to Gary Kueper:

    That's the hope, that you get these teams playing off of each other. Once Dempster is off the board, Garza become a coup for some team.

  • Here's a video I came across: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/93707277-theo-s-second-act-sportfolio-5-30.html (cut & paste)

  • In reply to SFToby:

    Thanks Toby. I wanted to post about that, but wound up being at the Cub game all day. I'm still a baseball nerd in that I watch the game and don't text or post while I'm there.

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    Non-thread related: Kevin Goldstein was just on MLB Radio with Grant Paulsen talking about the draft. He said, if the Cubs had the top overall pick, that they would take Rumors. They like him that much. He said Epstein and Hoyer have both been down to Florida to see him for games and a private workout. They've also met his parents, and there is a good relationship there. He also said Almora was the only prospect on the board that Epstein, Hoyer, McLeod and Wilken all agreed on.

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    In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Almora, not rumors. I hate this phone.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Almora is the lead guy right now from what I understand. Goldstein switched to Almora, and Law and Callis had Almora before him.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    I can live with Almora, and there will still being plenty of pitchers with upside still around in the supplemental through fourth round. I'm hearing Epstein really likes Pat Light.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    I like Light as well. Lots of upside arms available after first round. Wouldn't surprise me if they're 2 supplementals and 2nd round would up being pitchers.

  • Interesting the way that mock shapes up. Has KC going for Prep arm Max Fried, with Cubs grabbing Almora and skipping on both Zimmer and Zunino.

  • In reply to furiousjeff:

    It is interesting, but there's some talk that the Cubs like Almora a lot.

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    any rumors on Randy wells and Paul Maholm as well? They also seem like candidates to be dealt. especially if we bring a Phil Hughes back in a trade. I think Coleman is much better suited for the pen due to his deceptive delivery and much increased velocity. He never really wowed me as a starter.

  • In reply to Marcel Jenkins:

    Quite possibly, but I think teams will see if they can get the Garzas and the Dempsters before they worry about the secondary guys.

    I'm lukewarm on Coleman as a starter as well, he doesn't have the command to go with his finesse stuff as a starter. His increased velocity allows him to get away with a few mistakes as a RP.

  • I remember him telling me , "tools are fine, but how does a player produce under the big lights" Almora has produced and led Team USA big time , bottomline the kid is a winner .

  • In reply to Bryan Craven:

    He's the best combination of ceiling and polish in the draft. Solid pick. He'll probably be my guy in the final mock, but it's fun to explore different possibilities.

  • I have been beating the drum forever on Almora for a reason fellas, I told You I am from the school of Dorish . Almora will be the star of this draft if He stays injury free.

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    John, are there any others in the Yankees system besides Banuelos and Betances worth looking at? Those two get all the press, but neither had a good 2011, and they've both started off rough in2012. On the other hand, Nic Turley, though in Hi-A, looks promising, and they've got some interesting bats in outfielder Cody Johnson and third baseman Rob Segedin. What do you think?

  • I would rather the Cubs steer clear of taking a prospect 3rd baseman unless there's a Mike Schmidt in the making that's offered, and that's unlikely. It looks to me like we have a plethora of prospects at that position right now, including shortstops that might be switched to 3rd.

  • In reply to cubs1969:

    They do have a lot of good prospects at 3B, but only Baez looks like a potential impact guy, though Vitters is suddenly starting to play like one.

    I think the Cubs will try and get the best talent available. If they can get an impact guy at 3B, they should do it. Baez is athletic and has enough to bat any position on the field.

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    Boston just promoted Matt Barnes from Low-A to Hi-A, and he is looking pretty dominant. I wonder if the Red Sox would give him up.

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    In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Speaking of Boston, Jackie Bradley and Travis Shaw are knocking the cover off the ball.

  • In reply to Michael Caldwell:

    Barnes and Bradley are recent draft picks, so they'd be tough to pry loose. I know the Cubs liked Barnes too, just not enough to pick him at 9 when there was higher ceiling talent on the board.

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    I'm actually hoping the Mets are in this come playoff time. Would rather we trade Garza to them. Their farm system looks to have some legitimate pitching.

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