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Cubs Recap: Going away present? Dempster finally gets a win

Cubs Recap: Going away present? Dempster finally gets a win

It's been a whirlwind day with the draft but for the present day Cubs it's just another day and another game they have to try and win.  Ryan Dempster was on the mound, still winless in June, though it's not because he hasn't pitched well.  Other teams have certainly noticed and it's almost a certainty that Dempster will be traded, so it's good to see that the Cubs offense finally decided to give him a going away gift by scoring 10 runs and making sure he didn't leave Chicago without a win.

On the mound: 

Ryan Dempster was outstanding in going 7 shutout innings.  He allowed just 3 hits and no walks, completely shutting down the Brewers offense.  Sean Camp and Jairo Asencio came on to finish up with two scoreless innings of their own

At the plate:

Alfonso Soriano gave Ryan Dempster all the runs he would need with a 3-run HR in the first inning, his 9th of the year.  The Cubs also got a solo HR from Bryan LaHair (11), and Jeff Baker punctuated the victory with a 2 run blast in the top 9th.  Starlin Castro had 3 hits on the day while David DeJesus continues to get on base.  He walked twice and scored 3 runs.

The Lowdown:  

The Cubs were clicking on cylinders today, getting a great performance from Dempster, solid relief, power, patience and clutch hitting (3 for 7 with runners in scoring position.  The win snapped an 11 game losing streak on the road.

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  • John, in your opinion , what kind of return will Demp bring?

    I'm under the assumption that Garza- yes I think he'll get moved too- will bring a significantly better package.

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    In reply to Carl9730:

    Oh I'm convinced that Garza's gone too..There is gonna be one heck of a lot of talent brought in this organization between the draft, possibly Soler and potential deals..I'm giddy over it!!!

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    I hope you are right. This young season has showed us
    that we still 2-3 years away. Might as well go young.

  • In reply to Carl9730:

    The Cubs are still demanding a big return for Garza, but will settle for less to move Dempster. I'd like to get something similar to what we got for Marshall..a young cost controlled starter and a couple of solid prospects. I think there's enough competition out there to get a good return.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    i think the braves are the perfect fit for dempster i would like to get minor he had a rough year so far this year but seems like a good teammate and a guy theo likes and could be a good 3 or 4 starter

  • In reply to dakota cubs fan:

    That'd be an interesting deal. Not sure if the Braves would want to give up such a young, cost controlled starter, but they have to be nervous about the tight race expected all year long in the NL East. After missing out last year, they may want to make sure they give themselves a chance to make the playoffs this year.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    John and Dakota, the Braves to their credit are NEVER afraid to pull the trigger on a deal to make them better and they always seem to have good talent on the farm that they're willing to part with if need be and your right John, after coming so close last year after giving up a lot for Bourn they may really go full bore..lets see..I agree someone from the AL East may step forward though, too much competition..That being said, it wouldn't surprise me if Baltimore goes after Garza bigtime (assuming they stay in it) because they have major issues landing top notch free agents and the trade route especially while in contention could land them a long term piece that wouldn't go there otherwise..

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    I have a feeling the Cubs will be making a deal with Baltimore too. Also helps that Duquette and Epstein once worked together.

  • i think dempster has a chance to bring a top 90 -120 prospect back or 2 low level prospects with high upside

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    In reply to dakota cubs fan:

    I'm thinking one top 100 guy and another younger playe ror 2, especially if the Cubs eat the money left!!!

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    Eating that salary will help bring more in return. I'm guessing the Cubs prefer a better prospect over saving a little money.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    John, how long before the first domino drops?? I personally can't see Demps value getting any higher..don't get me wrong a couple of more shutouts would help, but realistically?

  • In reply to Luigi Ziccarelli:

    They're already working to trade Dempster. It could be as soon as before his next start...and no later than the deadline. I don't think it will take that long, though. Dempster has a lot of value right now and represents a small commitment for a team in terms of this being the last year on his contract. A competitive AL East makes for a solid list of motivated buyers.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Agree, since Demp is a FA at year's end, the sooner he is dealt, the bigger the return.

  • In reply to dakota cubs fan:

    Agree on the prospect level, but I think they'll try and get multiple players back.

  • Not to pick on Jeff Baker but... REALLY? You finally hit your first home run when we're already up by 7 runs in the late innings? You know, we could have used that flash of power when you're hitting cleanup against lefties!

    OK, I just needed to vent.

  • In reply to Taft:

    LOL...I think he's probably gone by the trade deadline. Not that Cubs will get anything.

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    In reply to John Arguello:

    We should have given up as Comp for Theo

  • I hope Sveum rewards this whole lineup by playing them again for a couple days, see what kind of runs they put up. This is the same group (minus Clevenger) we had when we were averaging 4.5 runs over 10 games before Sveum started mixing it up to score more. That worked REAL well.

    Also, you see that stat they threw up there on Campana? Minimum 200 ab's, the second lowest plate appearances per stolen base... SINCE 1900!

  • In reply to Carne Harris:

    Wow, nice stat on Campana. That doesn't surprise me though considering how little he plays and the SB numbers he puts up.

    Agreed on the lineup too. You have to put your best players in the lineup most of the time -- regardless of who is pitching.

  • Carne - even though we're going to be hopelessly out of it after the All Star Break, it will be fun to see what kinds of line-ups Sveum rolls out there after the trading frenzy sure to come. The pressure will be off and we might be able to see a little more into his true philosophies for putting together a line-up!

  • In reply to Ryno2Grace:

    I'm sure some of it is about getting these guys in the game to give these guys some exposure. I hope you're right in that it'll be just be the best players in there once the deadline has passed.

  • In reply to Ryno2Grace:

    Looking forward to that and the callups too. I like LaHair batting behind Sori now that Soriano's hitting. Gives him some protection and better pitches to hit. Might turn into Rizzo-LaHair once Sori's gone.

  • I'm pretty sure Baker swung through a take sign. Which is why he'll be benched today.

  • In reply to Cubswin4harry:

    LOL...

    I don't know if you're on Twitter but Sharadev Sharma, who occasionally writes for ESPN, got the chance to talk to Javier Baez and Baez felt bad about it. Said he didnt mean any harm, that's he's just learning, but that when people throw a 3-0 fastball down the middle, he reacted. He just wanted to hit it. Said he understood (and expected) getting plunked and the subsequent benching.

    Sounds like a real good kid who's just very competitive and wants to win and perform well. I'm really high on that kid right now.

  • Doesn't Dempster have a no trade clause? He did last year and said he would waive it. I dont see what has changed. To me, this means he doesnt truly care about winning, but rather cashing a check and playing in an easy (for him) situation. Why he doesn't get 1% of the crap Soriano gets when they make similar $ and have similar results (zero playoff wins, and that IS what it is about) is beyond me. He is as bad as Fred McGriff, but I guess he eventually agreed to be traded, too.

  • He does have a NTC. But it has been reported in recent weeks that he is willing to waive it. I think he doesn't get crap because his pitching is well worth the $14mm he's being paid. Hard pressed to complain about that. The playoff losses can be debated somewhere else...

  • In reply to Cubswin4harry:

    In G1 of 2008 NLDS, he walked the ballpark, and they lost because he pitched poorly. I think Soriano gets much more grief for making $18M than Dempster gets for making $14M. In the end, it isn't the player's fault if McDonough threw money at him. Getting a big contract doesnt make you better at playing baseball.

  • Neither Soriano or Dempster have distinguished themselves in the playoffs recently, this much is true. But in answering the question of why Soriano gets more grief, I think it pays to note that Dempster is performing in among the top 25 starters in all of baseball (out of about 150) or the top 15%, whereas Soriano's performance is in the bottom half compared to other LF'ers. Both are being paid well, but one appears to be "earning" the money.

    As you noted, their contracts aren't their "fault" but fans like to see players performance or at least their effort correlate with their paycheck. Personally, I don't see Soriano getting much less grief these days. He has picked up his hustle and seems to have improved his plate approach.

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