Play Colvin and make Quade earn his managing time

When the Cubs traded Kosuke Fukudome, the idea was that the Cubs were finally going to find out about Tyler Colvin.   Apparently, Mike Quade didn't get the memo and thinks it's time to find out about the 34 year old Reed Johnson.  Quade thinks Colvin should have to "earn" his playing time.  I'm not against players having to earn jobs, but you have to give them a chance to succeed --or fail --without them having to look over their shoulder for every bad game or play.

Here is Quade's explanation...

"We're committed to finding out about Colvin. He's going to get opportunities. It's going to be up to him to keep them. … Given the bench and the way we're working things, I think it works out just fine.  Last year he did that as well.  But I think right now for me, if I'm going to keep everybody involved and try and keep people fresh and everything else, I'm going to take advantage of a Reed Johnson, and spot Colvin."

Perhaps the Cubs should make Mike Quade earn his managing time.  That would be really interesting to me.   Quade outmaneuvered at the end of the game yet again?  Perhaps we should sit him down and watch bench coach Pat Listach manage for a couple of games.  Misused the bullpen?  Maybe we should see what bullpen coach Lester Strode can do for a game or two.  And maybe Quade should sit whenever he has to go against a tough manager like Tony LaRussa and let a guy with more experience handle the job.


Of course it is.  But is it any less ridiculous to bring up a kid and then judge him on such a small sample size instead of just simply letting him play?  If he goes into a three game 0-12 slump, does that mean he loses his opportunity in favor of a career backup with no future with the team?  Don't get me wrong, I love Reed Johnson but he's 34 and he's not a starter.   And the Cubs aren't going anywhere this season.  Why does he suddenly need to play so much for the last two months of the season when the Cubs should be finding out about who can play for 2012 and beyond?  Will the same rules apply to Brett Jackson and Matt Szczur when they are called up someday?

Thankfully, Quade shouldn't be around that long.


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  • Couldn't have said it better myself! I actually liked the hiring of Quade, but after watching this guy manage, and listening to what comes out of his mouth...I've done a complete 180. I think it's fair to say that Mike Quade has 'earned' himself a pink slip.

  • In reply to dgedz27:

    You and me both.

    I thought Quade was going to be the guy who could manage the kids better since he'd been in the minors for so long. That has not been the case.

    Maybe Sandberg would have been better. After all, who could understand a struggling rookie better than a guy who started his Hall of Fame career by going 0 for 37?

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Well put

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    excellent point about Ryno

    you think Quade gets fired immediately after the season?

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    Thanks. I'm not convinced Quade is gone until Hendry's gone. Right now I'm about 50/50 on whether the Cubs fire Hendry in the offseason. There are some who are convinced it will happen, but there are times I think the Cubs are willing to go at least one more year.

  • ...and another thing...what's up with the old guard on this team?? Quade calling out Castro and Barney on losing a ball in the sun. Now Quade says he'll "spot" Colvin for Reed Johnson...huh??? And we got Marlon Byrd popping off on his blog about how he would do the same thing Holiday did, when he clipped Castro, on what was a borderline dirty play. I would have placed Byrd on waivers immediately following that statement. You don't do that. Castro is the best young player this franchise has seen in some time, and you defend the questionable actions of a player from a rival team? Maybe I'm making too much of nothing, I dunno. This stuff is a red flag to me though.

  • In reply to dgedz27:

    Holliday's slide was a cheap shot. He started sliding at the bag and slid way past it. He had no intention of making it there safely. I remember when old school shortstops used to throw the ball low to make the runner get down early. Maybe Castro can learn to do that too

    If Zambrano would have said something like that, he would have been crucified by the media. And who knows what Quade would have done if Castro or Barney had said something similar when it was a veteran teammate getting the cheap shot instead of vice-versa?

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Definitely would like to see Castro pick up on that. Next time we play the Cards, and Holliday is coming at the back, whistle one right by his ear. Exactly, the only thing I'll give Quade any credit for, is at least he got his butt out there and got tossed from the game defending his player. Aside from that, I can't think of many situations Quade has handled correctly.

  • PLEASE make it stop! I can't wait til this dumb shit is over. Reed Johnson, Jeff Baker, Ramon reminds me of Baker and his Nefi and Holly crap. Can't turn your back on "Holly"

  • In reply to Tom Loxas:

    Aaargh...Neifi Perez! We could probably make an all-time lineup of Cubs reserves who played waytoo much...

    You know, that actually sounds like kind of a fun project!

  • Ha! You had me at the headline John! You had me at the headline.

  • I think its safe to assume Colvin would have played better this year with the Cubs earlier, if Quade was not the manager.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    What I loved about Colvin's game last night, was the fact that he crushed two balls to right and right-center, then nicely lined a base hit to left field for his 3rd hit. Since being called back up, I'm seeing a real effort by Tyler to hit the ball where it's pitched.

  • In reply to dgedz27:

    Good observation. Would like to see him keep doing that. One of the things he kept doing early in the year is rolling his wrists a bit on his some pitches, forcing him to ground out to 2nd base a lot. It's nice to see him take those pitches the other way more.

    And, of course, as has been said here by a few commenters, the plate discipline needs to improve. I'd like to see Colvin get his OBP up into the .340 range. Last year, he was close to .320, so it seems doable to me. A .340 OBP with good power and decent tools across the board makes a pretty good outfielder.

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Agreed. Hopefully as he gains confidence, he will be more patient, and not feel like he has to crush the first pitch anywhere near the zone. I really think the Cubs did him a disservice early in the year. Getting an AB here and there is not how to groom a young offensive player. When the Cubs signed Pena, knowing they had bad contracts all over the outfield, Colvin should have started the year in Iowa.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    It would have been nice if he could have given him consistent ABs. Tonight didn't go so well, though, two ABs, 2Ks...then an ejection...

  • In reply to John Arguello:

    Got to play the young guys to develope them though, through the ups & downs, thats how they learn, as evidenced by your 0/37 Ryno point.

  • I really would like to see Colvin play and see if has a future with the Cubs. The reality is I don't have that much confidence in Quade, who seems to stick with veterans, no matter what. All of a sudden I'm having Dusty Baker flashbacks of Todd Hollingsworth playing again and again!

  • In reply to rodeosteve:

    I get the feeling that the veterans are the ones running that team right now.

  • In reply to John Arguello:


  • In reply to ChiRy:

    That's why you dump the vets at the deadline & dump Quade at the end of the year if not sooner. And you'd probably have to dump Hendry to do that. Can't keep around these guys if they are so desperate to save their own ass, and don't have the team's long term success in their minds.

  • In reply to ChiRy:

    I agree. I just don't think it's an ideal situation if you want to truly rebuild, but the Cubs are giving every indication that they don't really intend to do that. They prefer to re-tool, or "re-build on the fly".

    Just read an article by SI's Jon Heyman that suggests that the Ricketts family really likes Hendry. They have a very close relationship. If he's right (and Heyman isn't known as the most accurate guy out there, so it's very possible this is false), he's probably not leaving any time soon.

  • I just want to point out what Starlin did in that series against the Pirates...9-14 and a walk. From the leadoff spot. It's where he belongs. The walks will come. But he just seems to produce from the leadoff.

  • In reply to Cameron Macpherson:

    He's been incredible in that leadoff spot. He has a .398 OBP there overall. I know you've been advocating him for that spot for a while...maybe you're on to something!

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