Four north Red Line CTA stations to be rebuilt - with elevators

The four CTA Red Line stations north of Wilson are in line for complete reconstruction - including elevators - as early as 2017, according to a Tribune report.

Lawrence, Argyle, Berwyn and Bryn Mawr will be rebuilt along with the crumbling elevated structure and deteriorating track at a cost of about $1.13 billion. That funding has not yet been secured, but the Tribune notes:

The Federal Transit Administration recently listed the CTA’s Red-Purple Modernization project as the first project eligible for a new pot of money under the so-called “core capacity’’ program, which is aimed at improving older transit lines in the U.S.

Certainly construction of this magnitude will take a long time, and no doubt require station closures. But bully for the CTA to think big and move ahead with part of its Red-Purple Modernization project. More to come on this.

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  • Replacing all the crossovers at Granville is far more important!
    When are these weasels going to do that?

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    I agree with you 100%. I used to live on Granville, now I live on the south side.

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    For real Scooter? You think it's more important to fix a couple hundred feet of track, rather than fix 1.5 miles of track, build four new stations and provide elevator accessibility for them?

    What are you smoking?

  • In reply to Kevin O’Neil:

    You're the one smoking weird stuff, not me!
    Are you forgetting, that every single train that passes north of there is delayed? Every Red Line train & every Purple Express, which when Wilson is rebuilt, will then become a transfer station & maybe we'll get daylong express service on the North Side, which has more stations far too close together along with the only four track section of track in the system!
    How many people are fed up with the stupid & unnecessary delays caused by this problem & then drive, causing more problems on Sheridan & LSD?
    How many more times will a switch mysteriously spring into the wrong position & nearly cause a head on crash?
    Why didn't the CTA just take the crossovers from the Dan Ryan, which were less than 6 years old & move them north?
    Plus, they just rehabbed all of those stations & now they're going to tear them down & start over?
    Typical CTA waste & stupidity!
    Plus you live north of Granville!

    In other news, Greg Hinz at Crain's says they're finally going to build the flyover at Clark Junction & eliminate those delays.

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    All that you say is true Scooter, but let's look at the reality - the CTA doesn't having funding for that fix. They have funding for the rebuild of the four stations. You can't mix that funding, so don't forget. It's not like they had a choice between the two and decided against fixing the Granville crossovers.

  • In reply to Kevin O’Neil:

    Kevin, you didn't read the article. CTA does not have funding for what they say they are going to do no earlier than 2017. And how darn much would it cost to change one interlocking? Especially when they spent about $100 million on what they say is a very temporary track repair, and this interlocking is at a location where there were two incidents that looked like derailments, whatever they were.

    Scooter is absolutely correct on this one.

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    So Scooter, do you agree with them building the flyover? It would have been best to have built it back during the Brown Line redo, but sounds like this would be all Federal money. I thought I'd see if you could at least say something positive for once. :)

  • In reply to chris:

    Of course I want the flyover built.
    I'm flat out amazed that the CTA didn't sell off the various lots they bought through eminent domain to rebuild Belmont when they finished, only to have to repurchase them again.
    But I'm also flabbergasted at the lack of planning, in that they didn't build a stub at the north end of Track 4 at Belmont, so they wouldn't have to do some minor demolishing of the new track structure, so the flyover approach track could be connected to Track 4.

    And Kevin, replacing three sets of crossovers is really cheap, especially when you already have them from a different location.
    It's even cheaper when you do a simple cost/benefit analysis versus a head on collision or derailment.
    Since those crossovers are so rarely used, why not lock them into the straight ahead position & require a switchman to go out & operate them?
    They only seem to be used when there are stations bypassed for track work, so remote operation isn't really necessary. There hasn't been regular use of them since the Evanston Express trains stopped at Loyola & Morse during the rush hours.

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    Tribune story on your point about the need for condemnation, although it talks about "razing buildings," which might explain why this wasn't done earlier, as the New Start money wasn't adequate to do what was planned then. It doesn't appear just reacquiring lots on Wilton.

  • In reply to jack:

    They may also have to relocate the Clark Junction Tower again, unless the flyover track sweeps east around it.

  • In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    On your Crain's, thanks for the link. While this should have been done as part of the Brown Line project 5-8 years ago, you'll note that that article also says " None of the work will occur before 2017, and funding has not yet been secured, transit sources said. But the CTA is the only agency in the country that so far has qualified for a new federal transit program known as Core Capacity improvement."

    In short, someone thinks that the Core Capacity program is an infinite pot of money earmarked to the CTA, and apparently to the exclusion of any other transit agency.

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    In reply to ScooterLibbby:

    Life's a mystery!

  • I'm not sure what compelled the Emanuel PR machine to announce this, especially since the articles all indicated that there wasn't a transportation bill or a funding agreement, just a proposed Core Capacity program. Then someone felt compelled to announce the latest Alternatives Analysis for the 130th extension. Besides the article on the latter indicating that neither alternative looked that feasible (an L down Halsted, like it needed more blight, or whether CN would grant rights over its property), the South Side envy crowd forced Forrest out to say "this is a lengthy federal process." So, I guess throwing out all the alternatives on the RPM made that process less lengthy.

    Given the discussion a couple of days ago about accessible stations, I would argue that upgrading Argyle is a total waste of money, in that it serves a 2 block long street, with no connecting buses, and within 2 blocks of a station. Lawrence is even a reach. Maybe Rahm needs votes in Little Saigon, but apparently not on the South Side.

    Finally, Bryn Mawr was announced before, and the captions in the Tribune said that the CTA renderings were from Oct. 2013.

  • In reply to jack:

    Jack, the Core Capacity bill passed both houses and was signed into law. So that's money int he bank for the CTA because they are the only applicants - or at least first in line.

  • In reply to Kevin O’Neil:

    Again, you didn't read the article. While it said " That work comes with a commitment of some amount of federal money and would be the first phase of a $4 billion-plus rehab project along the Purple and northern Red lines." it also said "No specific dollar pledge has been made yet." It also mentioned that the current transportation bill is slated to run out.

    There is no indication (and it appears denied) that FTA entered into a full funding agreement, such as it did before the Douglas and Ravenswood First Starts got going.

    Also, citing yourself is not authority. You know what real authority is.

  • Before my Mother passed she was off-and-on in a Wheelchair, and I had a friend who lived on Argyle (East of Sheridan) for a long time; and there is lots of housing there all the way to Marine Drive.

    There are LOTS of very exotic Restaurants, and there must be assisted living of some type nearby because I saw lots of elderly, and people with disabilities of various kinds.

    So jack, if I wanted to bring my Mom from 87th on the Red Line to have Peking Duck, we would have to ride to the next closest ADA station, and then transfer to a Bus -- or push her 2 or 3 blocks; and the same for the disabled in the area?

  • The building at Sheridan and Argyle (NE corner) that used to house all sorts of people is now closed and there has been significantly less people with disabilities in that area, although there are many other of those types of facilities in Uptown. That one in particular was closed however.

  • I agree with CTA Gray Line. All of us, whatever age, are only a staircase, an icy sidewalk or a dodgy street crossing away from a wheelchair or crutches. All our buses are accessible; shouldn't the stations be too?

  • In reply to travellinpat:

    That was discussed a couple of days ago. Is just getting Peking duck worth spending maybe $20 million on that? Why not build a station on every cross street?

  • In reply to travellinpat:

    Let's also remember that CTA canceled the Lincoln bus, even though a sheltered workplace complained that instead of having accessible fixed route transit available, paratransit would have to somehow get his clients to work. Where are the priorities here?

  • In reply to travellinpat:

    I agree too. Making all area transit 100% accessible should be the goal here.

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