Will other rehabbed Red north stations look like Granville?

By Patrick Barry via CTA Station Watch

An obvious question, as the Granville station reopens at 10 p.m. Friday after a six-week rehab, is whether the other six stations that are part of the Red North project will sport a similar look.

Yes and no, says CTA spokesperson Catherine Hosinski. Some features will be similar throughout, but since the stations vary in the amount of repair needed, there will be differences as well.

Stainless steel stair railings will be installed at every station, a big improvement over the old steel railings that could never hold paint (and at some stations seemed ready to fall off the wall). Photos of the almost-ready Granville station, in fact, show quite a bit of stainless steel as railings, barriers and in the customer assistance booth. Stainless is easy to clean and doesn’t require paint.

Read more at CTA Station Watch.

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  • Regardless of what the spokesmodel says, the issue is how much money CTA is willing to put into a 90 year old station to make it conform to a 30 year old station. While it was previously noted that wooden platforms would be replaced by concrete, it essentially would take demolishing and replacing all of the wooden structure above track level to accomplish that.

  • Right. And that's what the CTA is doing:

    ".... (D)emolishing and replacing all of the wooden structure above track level "

  • In reply to Kevin O’Neil:

    Do you have a source to which to attribute that, or just used the copy and paste function from my comment? The post itself doesn't indicate that. The CTA Station Watch doesn't even use the term demolish.

    Also note that the CTA Station Watch article says “therefore, specific details have not been finalized for all stations.” She said that “there are varied levels of repair needed” at the stations, but that rehab work in every case will target floors, the building envelope, walls, ceiling, station furniture, customer assistance booths and stationhouse doors. Sure doesn't sound like what you purport to me.

  • Hey Jack. The CTA information page for the Red North project states that each of the six stations besides Granville will include "new platform foundations, decking, fixtures and furnishings," and in every case a refurbished canopy structure.

    It's here: http://www.transitchicago.com/rednorth/

    That's what we've seen at Morse, where the entire platform structure was removed; the canopy supports were reinforced; new pre-cast concrete foundation blocks were placed on the embankment fill; new steel girders spanned the concrete viaduct structure over the street; and then a rolling crane placed the concrete deck sections. It's the full deal and there is no indication that we won't see similar work at the other stations covered by this project (Jarvis, Thorndale, Berwyn, Argyle, Lawrence).

    Some good CTA photos are on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ctaweb/sets/72157630389356830/with/7535975642/

  • In reply to Patrick Barry:

    O.K. But even at that, the implication is that the "curved angle iron" posts supporting the canopies will remain, as opposed to the box columns prevalent in post 1960s construction, including at Granville.

    The one picture showing the gutted platform and steel under it (7487877626) seems to confirm both about the platform and the canopy supports. The one with the concrete pilings (7535975642) similarly confirms that the wood platform and underpinnings are gone. We'll have to see what is done with the headhouses over the stairs, for instance.

  • Those stairwell headhouses are gone at Morse, at the center of the platform and at the ends. Demolished. As you say, we'll have to wait and see whether the replacements are galvanized-steel structures like those used at the Brown Line stations.

  • Jack, I'm not going to be as nice as my CTA Station Watch partner, Patrick Barry.

    So I say: Have you paid any attention at all to what Patrick and I have been reporting since February on this story? I've posted a number of times that platforms would be demolished and substantially rebuilt.

    So please stop with the snarky "copy and paste" comments and pay attention to what we're reporting.

  • Cool pictures. I like the fact that they'll be getting concrete platforms. Will help with maintenance and look much nicer.

  • Well, you just opened yourself again, especially when you bring up "what we're reporting."

    I don't see here any report about that MAP-21 reauthorized the transportation bill for two years.

    One of the things that might be relevant to the CTA is this clip from an article called "Cliff's Notes on the Transit Changes in MAP-21":

    The new section on Bus Rapid Transit specifically defines it as having a separated right-of-way (at least for the majority of the line and during peak periods), defined stations, short headways and signal priority. Those are good definitions to prevent “BRT creep” – the cutting of corners that eventually ends up with a pretty standard bus service that doesn’t perform the way BRT is supposed to.

    But to get to the point of your last message of 23 hours ago, is the only reason you haven't commented on that is because you can no longer blame the Republicans for holding it up?

  • Jack, there is plenty going on at the CTA that I have not reported, and certainly the reauthorization of the transportation bill is one of them.

    As I have been noting the last two weeks, I've been taking a little R&R. We'll get to this soon enough.

    And thanks for the tip on BRT fromt he Cliff's Notes.

    As for the Republicans, bully for them and the Dems for finally coming to their senses on this.

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